[DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too

[kano]

i am going to guess another ddos. and I am at the point i think it is being done by other pool
owner(s).
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Drugs or paranoia?

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[fcmatt]

i am going to guess another ddos. and I am at the point i think it is being done by other pool
owner(s).
...

Drugs or paranoia?

it may not be a good occam's razor example but we are talking about bitcoin here. anything
can and will happen.

so what do you think was the reason for the last dos? (not this problem currently.)

there is always a reason. always.

[P4man]

i am going to guess another ddos. and I am at the point i think it is being done by other pool
owner(s).
...

Drugs or paranoia?

it may not be a good occam's razor example but we are talking about bitcoin here. anything
can and will happen.

so what do you think was the reason for the last dos? (not this problem currently.)

there is always a reason. always.

Most DDoS attacks are about extortion. Whoever is ddos-ing DB might be trying to make tycho pay.

[[Tycho]]

I don't think that today's issue was caused by DDoS attack at our service.
As I remember, we had two DDoS cases this year.

[nikiwaibel]

pit.deepbit.net seems unreachable via IPv6. any IPv6 plans?

[[Tycho]]

pit.deepbit.net seems unreachable via IPv6. any IPv6 plans?

I had some ideas to use IPv6 as anti-ddos measure, but not tried it yet.
Do you think that there are any IPv6 miners/users ?

[fcmatt]

pit.deepbit.net seems unreachable via IPv6. any IPv6 plans?

I had some ideas to use IPv6 as anti-ddos measure, but not tried it yet.
Do you think that there are any IPv6 miners/users ?

i work for an ISP. customers not demanding ipv6 at all. only people interested in it are the neck beard linux users and we tell
them to tunnel it with hurricane electric.

i know some cable companies are handing it out but i bet most do not use it because cheapo wireless home routers ignore it.
those who plug win 7 directly into cable modem might have ipv6 or what have you.

[nikiwaibel]

pit.deepbit.net seems unreachable via IPv6. any IPv6 plans?

I had some ideas to use IPv6 as anti-ddos measure, but not tried it yet.
Do you think that there are any IPv6 miners/users ?

i am. i've just setup tinyproxy as a workaround:
 cgminer can connect over tcp/ipv6 to a ipv6 http proxy (http_proxy env var).
 if the proxy can connect to the ipv4 world, things work.
 alternatively a socks proxy could be used as well, but i've not tested that yet (tor is also not ipv6 ready, afaik).

if pit.deepbit.net would get an ipv6 address and an AAAA dns entry, then the ipv6 world (china, india, ... growing ;-) ...) could connect directly.

if the provider does not offer ipv6, then sixxs.net can be used to create a tunnel to the ipv6 world easily ('yum install aiccu' on fedora linux). sixxs.net will give you two /64 (one 2-node tunnel, one 2^64-node-net) and, if required, /48 (64k 2^64-node-networks) for free!

i am sure deepbit.net would be listed under http://www.sixxs.net/misc/coolstuff/

[[Tycho]]

i am. i've just setup tinyproxy as a workaround:
 cgminer can connect over tcp/ipv6 to a ipv6 http proxy (http_proxy env var).

Can you tell why are you using IPv6 instead of direct IPv4 connection ? I'm just curious about this.

if the provider does not offer ipv6, then sixxs.net can be used to create a tunnel to the ipv6 world easily ('yum install aiccu' on fedora linux). sixxs.net will give you two /64 (one 2-node tunnel, one 2^64-node-net) and, if required, /48 (64k 2^64-node-networks) for free!

There are some IPv6 subnets available, but I still have to research how to support it in our software setup.

[fcmatt]

Nice jump in pool speed for deepbit owners. I wonder if new power or a diff pool died and people migrated?

[Gladamas]

Nice jump in pool speed for deepbit owners. I wonder if new power or a diff pool died and people migrated?

OzCoin started charging fees, maybe that has something to do with it.

[organofcorti]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

[fcmatt]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

the run of luck has been pleasant. evens out the bad week we had before that.
sucks btc price dropped so much. almost seemed like the "old days" of getting 15+ per btc.

ozcoin getting greedy eh ;-) time to read a bit of that thread to see what is going on.

[Graet]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

the run of luck has been pleasant. evens out the bad week we had before that.
sucks btc price dropped so much. almost seemed like the "old days" of getting 15+ per btc.

ozcoin getting greedy eh ;-) time to read a bit of that thread to see what is going on.

if greed is what its called to actually cover your costs - I guess we are.
Interesting comment to see in the thread of the pool that charges highest fees

[organofcorti]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

the run of luck has been pleasant. evens out the bad week we had before that.
sucks btc price dropped so much. almost seemed like the "old days" of getting 15+ per btc.

ozcoin getting greedy eh ;-) time to read a bit of that thread to see what is going on.

The run of luck more than evens out the week before that. The last weeks run of luck is incredibly unlikely. It's a 1 in 70 week occurrence at DeepBit's average hashrate for the past week.

As for Ozcoin, the fee they charge is no larger than DeepBit's prop fee. This isn't greediness, just ensuring that donating miners aren't being taken advantage of.

[fcmatt]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

the run of luck has been pleasant. evens out the bad week we had before that.
sucks btc price dropped so much. almost seemed like the "old days" of getting 15+ per btc.

ozcoin getting greedy eh ;-) time to read a bit of that thread to see what is going on.

if greed is what its called to actually cover your costs - I guess we are.
Interesting comment to see in the thread of the pool that charges highest fees

there was a winky thingy in there you know. i feel a pool should charge for the services rendered.
and 10% is for pps. i never use that. Proportional for me and I think %3 is fair for deepbit.

i just thought a pool switching from free to having a fee might result in some bitcoin antics so I could read and chuckle.

[Graet]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

the run of luck has been pleasant. evens out the bad week we had before that.
sucks btc price dropped so much. almost seemed like the "old days" of getting 15+ per btc.

ozcoin getting greedy eh ;-) time to read a bit of that thread to see what is going on.

if greed is what its called to actually cover your costs - I guess we are.
Interesting comment to see in the thread of the pool that charges highest fees

there was a winky thingy in there you know. i feel a pool should charge for the services rendered.
and 10% is for pps. i never use that. Proportional for me and I think %3 is fair for deepbit.

i just thought a pool switching from free to having a fee might result in some bitcoin antics so I could read and chuckle.

Ok, i'm a bit touchy atm, sure are some interesting reads
enjoy

[evanesce]

DeepBit has had crazy luck for the past week. Maybe some miners are trying to get some for themselves. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't teach him about probability.

the run of luck has been pleasant. evens out the bad week we had before that.
sucks btc price dropped so much. almost seemed like the "old days" of getting 15+ per btc.

ozcoin getting greedy eh ;-) time to read a bit of that thread to see what is going on.

if greed is what its called to actually cover your costs - I guess we are.
Interesting comment to see in the thread of the pool that charges highest fees

there was a winky thingy in there you know. i feel a pool should charge for the services rendered.
and 10% is for pps. i never use that. Proportional for me and I think %3 is fair for deepbit.

i just thought a pool switching from free to having a fee might result in some bitcoin antics so I could read and chuckle.

Ok, i'm a bit touchy atm, sure are some interesting reads
enjoy

Everywhere I stumble across one of your posts Graet, you seem so bitter/sarcastic/hating..  my advice is try not to take everything on a personal level.  This is just business.  I believe the people here at deepbit willingly pay the 3% fee because of frankly, their stellar hashrate and low variance potential, along with good uptime.  Deepbit is a well established pool and is worthy of these fees they've been charging without any complaints.

[organofcorti]

Everywhere I stumble across one of your posts Graet, you seem so bitter/sarcastic/hating..  my advice is try not to take everything on a personal level.  This is just business.  I believe the people here at deepbit willingly pay the 3% fee because of frankly, their stellar hashrate and low variance potential, along with good uptime.  Deepbit is a well established pool and is worthy of these fees they've been charging without any complaints.

Evanesce, please don't. I've seen maybe three grouchy posts by Graeme, amongst hundreds where he's doing his best to run his pool and help his miners. And I'm not sure I'd would have answered differently. Plus, Graeme was referring to the 10% PPS fee miners pay here, not the 3% PPS fee.

As for the post you quote - that's "bitter/sarcastic/hating"? If you really think this, then I think you're a bit too delicate to be on the internets unsupervised.

/OT

[os2sam]

Everywhere I stumble across one of your posts Graet, you seem so bitter/sarcastic/hating.. 

Now that is the most ridiculous statement I've seen on these forums yet
Sam