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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1579968 times)
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September 22, 2013, 02:38:54 AM
Last edit: September 22, 2013, 04:06:49 AM by Havek
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I keep mining on here; hoping we'll hit a block.  Takes about 5 days to hit one, and it's been 7 now... any day now.  So once we do, it should verify all the manual payouts.  Usually just have one ASIC on this pool, but during the night I switch them all over hoping to hit a jackpot :-)
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September 23, 2013, 03:37:14 AM
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I'm actually not even getting the automatic payouts.

This pool is refusing me my rewards Sad
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September 23, 2013, 07:33:05 AM
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deepbit solved block #259555. http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php

it should solve some issues mentioned in the posts above.

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September 23, 2013, 07:59:17 AM
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I'm actually not even getting the automatic payouts.

This pool is refusing me my rewards Sad
I just mentioned the possible delays caused by resync in my previous message.
But this issue is solved now anyway, you can request your payment.

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September 23, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
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Deepbit actually solved two blocks last night!
I got over 0.1 BTC in rewards, but am only able to transfer out whole bitcents so I have 0.00977515 BTC leftover which is very annoying!  We can never close out the whole balance?  I can see automatic payments only being in increments of 0.01, but if we do an instant payout it should give everything.
Or, if you wanna keep it, give me a "donate remaining balance to pool" option.  It just peeves me that there will ALWAYS be numbers in my account and can never make it 0.00000000.
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September 23, 2013, 01:15:29 PM
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Deepbit actually solved two blocks last night!
I got over 0.1 BTC in rewards, but am only able to transfer out whole bitcents so I have 0.00977515 BTC leftover which is very annoying!  We can never close out the whole balance?  I can see automatic payments only being in increments of 0.01, but if we do an instant payout it should give everything.
Or, if you wanna keep it, give me a "donate remaining balance to pool" option.  It just peeves me that there will ALWAYS be numbers in my account and can never make it 0.00000000.

Just type in the amount down to the Satoshi, which is the 8th digit after the decimal point.

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September 23, 2013, 01:30:05 PM
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I have done that in the past, and it rounds to the bitcent.  So this time I just left it blank and it gave me the nearest bitcent.  So if I manually type down to the Satoshi it'll work?
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September 23, 2013, 01:41:32 PM
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I have done that in the past, and it rounds to the bitcent.  So this time I just left it blank and it gave me the nearest bitcent.  So if I manually type down to the Satoshi it'll work?

That is why it is editable.  So yes it should.  I don't think he changed it back?!?

I remember it was a big deal a couple years ago when Tycho implemented it.

Now all you have to do is wait till you meet the .01 minimum again.  Smiley

Edit: below is the link to the announcement of Full-Precision payouts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg365742#msg365742

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September 23, 2013, 02:12:10 PM
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Oh, cool thanks!
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September 23, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
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I have done that in the past, and it rounds to the bitcent.  So this time I just left it blank and it gave me the nearest bitcent.  So if I manually type down to the Satoshi it'll work?

That is why it is editable.  So yes it should.  I don't think he changed it back?!?

I remember it was a big deal a couple years ago when Tycho implemented it.

Now all you have to do is wait till you meet the .01 minimum again.  Smiley

Edit: below is the link to the announcement of Full-Precision payouts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg365742#msg365742


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September 23, 2013, 02:45:20 PM
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Are you saying your expecting to be able to do a manual payout?  If so that is less the .01.

If you are saying that you can't do a manual payout until it reach's .01 then I concur.

I'm just not sure what you mean?

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September 23, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg365742#msg365742

was it ever implemeted? at the moment it is not.

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September 23, 2013, 02:50:13 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg365742#msg365742

was it ever implemeted? at the moment it is not.

All I can say this is what Tycho said

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg372652#msg372652

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September 23, 2013, 09:16:13 PM
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Why does deepbit have to solve a block for confirmations to start rolling. Actually blockchain.info doesn't even see the transaction. It's relatively large too 1.47 BTC...

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September 23, 2013, 10:38:53 PM
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Why does deepbit have to solve a block for confirmations to start rolling. Actually blockchain.info doesn't even see the transaction. It's relatively large too 1.47 BTC...

This has been explained multiple times by several different people in the last 2 to 4 pages of post's in this thread.  Just look back a little and you will see them.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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September 24, 2013, 12:10:31 AM
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But I use bitcoind 0.8.1 and smaller sums confirms directly, does bitcoind automatically add fees? how come I don't see them? Also why doesn't blockchain.info show the transaction as unconfirmed instead of not found?

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September 24, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
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But I use bitcoind 0.8.1 and smaller sums confirms directly, does bitcoind automatically add fees? how come I don't see them? Also why doesn't blockchain.info show the transaction as unconfirmed instead of not found?
because Deepbit was doing their thing was before blockchain.info existed
Deepbit mine their own transactions so the probably aren't announced to the network like a standard bitcoind would
blockchain.info is a private business, unfortunately showing correct statistics is not money making and thus lacks support/development....

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September 24, 2013, 07:21:14 AM
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That makes no sense. Either the transaction is broadcasted on the network or it's not. My bitcoind sees the unconfirmed transaction therefore so does blockchain.info ones too. Unless thay have some custom bitcoind that works differently, but I have seen unconfirmed transactions there too.

I'm just curious how the bitcoin protocol works in this instance, I don't understand why deepbit has the only bitcoind that accepts to confirm it's own transactions, why can't another bitcoind confirm these transactions, it makes no sense to me. Can someone that truly understands the fee system explain?

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September 24, 2013, 07:26:15 AM
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That makes no sense. Either the transaction is broadcasted on the network or it's not. My bitcoind sees the unconfirmed transaction therefore so does blockchain.info ones too. Unless thay have some custom bitcoind that works differently, but I have seen unconfirmed transactions there too. I'm just curious how the bitcoin protocol works in this instance, I don't understand why deepbit has the only bitcoind that accepts to confirm it's own transactions, why can't another bitcoind confirm these transactions, it makes no sense to me. Can someone that truly understands the fee system explain?

Deepbit used to be large enough to guarantee it would mine many blocks per day.  As a result, Tycho decided to simply use his own pool to make the first confirmation on pool payouts, guaranteeing he would never have to pay a transaction fee.  BTC Guild did this at one point as well, since it makes economic sense.  If you are constantly creating new blocks, why pay a fee that might go to another pool?  That only lasted a brief period (late 2011), and isn't done anymore by BTC Guild [the total fees paid are miniscule and miner's shouldn't be forced to wait hours just so the pool can save a couple pennies a day].

Whether or not he broadcasts them at all, I don't know.  It's possible Deepbit does broadcast the payment transactions with no fee attached, but because the transaction violates the "no fee" criteria of the network, the nodes connected to Deepbit will not accept/relay the transaction, so it never reaches blockchain.info or your own personal bitcoin node because of that.

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September 24, 2013, 07:47:14 AM
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See that's the problem it DOES reach my bitcoind. So maybe my bitcoind is a first degree node to deepbit then, what are the odds? The fee system is so obscure. I never paid any fee ever, but if there is a no-fee thing, then wouldn't all my non fee transactions be stuck too?

Does the bitcoind add a fee always, without me knowing it. It can't right? Then either the sum left on my account would be lower or the recipient would get less than I send.


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