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August 12, 2012, 04:32:27 AM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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August 12, 2012, 04:51:40 AM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?
Not planned yet.

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August 12, 2012, 04:52:56 AM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

It's broken for those who don't hop.

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August 12, 2012, 06:45:05 AM
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Many continue with the mine shutdown due to "antiddos" please put up a private DNS for miners verified great power does not pass through the filter "antiddos" that does not cost money.
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August 12, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

It's broken for those who don't hop.

I would say broken for those who are uninformed, which are most likely a precious few.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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August 13, 2012, 07:07:46 AM
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Ddos brought some awesome luck lately. Turned everything around.

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August 13, 2012, 07:13:22 AM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

because it is broken, deepbit miners have to pay a "hopper" tax currently
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August 13, 2012, 10:18:15 AM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

because it is broken, deepbit miners have to pay a "hopper" tax currently

And what about free choice?  People don't "have" to do anything they don't want to.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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August 13, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

because it is broken, deepbit miners have to pay a "hopper" tax currently
That doesn't seem to dissuade 3.5TH of miners from mining there. What this says about the miners is up for debate by the psychologists. Hoppers win, regular miners mine like worker ants blissfully unaware and happy. Seems like a good symbiotic relationship to me... Somehow I can't see it lasting though <_<

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August 13, 2012, 03:06:46 PM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

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because it is broken, deepbit miners have to pay a "hopper" tax currently
That doesn't seem to dissuade 3.5TH of miners from mining there. What this says about the miners is up for debate by the psychologists. Hoppers win, regular miners mine like worker ants blissfully unaware and happy. Seems like a good symbiotic relationship to me... Somehow I can't see it lasting though <_<

Yeah... It really would be nice to see people Get Off Of Deepbit. and go TRY other pools for longer than 36hrs. You'll (if your not a fool) honestly endup with higher income due to smaller taxes.

P2Pool is GREAT and you get to earn yourself the "network transaction fees" but sadly i dont think it'll ever take off so long as it has such HORRIBLE compatability with FPGA's
And also the factor of how FUCKING annoying it is to get it all setup, And then your left with Three Open Active windows.

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August 13, 2012, 03:25:51 PM
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since deepbit delays showing found blocks how does a pool hopper know when to join?
can they listen to the network and know when deepbit announces a found block and then come join?
i did not think that was implemented very well.

so how does a hopper take advantage know days? how will they know whether to stay with deepbit
when it is lucky and when it is not?

i know about hopping but i stick with deepbit because i know other pools, at least back in the day,
were not as stable as deepbit. i do not mind paying 3% to deepbit for their service. they are available
for questions and answer promptly. they run a stable pool that does not change at a whim when the
owner gets his panties in a knot over the newest thing out there and wants to do it like it is a hobby.
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August 13, 2012, 03:29:15 PM
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since deepbit delays showing found blocks how does a pool hopper know when to join?
can they listen to the network and know when deepbit announces a found block and then come join?
i did not think that was implemented very well.
Yes, they can (not with 100% accuracy).
But I'm trying to control their activity and planning some more countermeasures.

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August 13, 2012, 04:39:42 PM
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P2Pool is GREAT and you get to earn yourself the "network transaction fees" but sadly i dont think it'll ever take off so long as it has such HORRIBLE compatability with FPGA's
And also the factor of how FUCKING annoying it is to get it all setup, And then your left with Three Open Active windows.
Sorry for the trolling, but that was too big to let pass:

If you don't like windows, why do you use them? That's not as if it's the only choice for mining.

For FPGA, as far as I can tell only Bitforce singles and some early minirigs can't be used at their full potential with p2pool, every other FPGA board work nicely.

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August 13, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
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F4-6D-04-2C-5E-02
This is a MAC address, it's not related to the filtration process.
When did your connection problems started ?

yes it is my Mac ID (F4-6D-04-2C-5E-02) and all my laptops and pcs are connected on the same router/ Ip there fore if my miner cant mine nor i can open the site on my rig then i guess its mac ID banned or something has to be.


ohhh wait i found the problem for why it didn't connect,

NOTE: If you running miners on your rigs don't install "Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware"  it blocks the site after few days, who knows why! BUT that fixed my problem Smiley Unchecked site blocking

sorry for blaming it on your guyz ;P

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August 13, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
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F4-6D-04-2C-5E-02
This is a MAC address, it's not related to the filtration process.
When did your connection problems started ?

yes it is my Mac ID (F4-6D-04-2C-5E-02) and all my laptops and pcs are connected on the same router/ Ip there fore if my miner cant mine nor i can open the site on my rig then i guess its mac ID banned or something has to be.


ohhh wait i found the problem for why it didn't connect,

NOTE: If you running miners on your rigs don't install "Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware"  it blocks the site after few days, who knows why! BUT that fixed my problem Smiley Unchecked site blocking

sorry for blaming it on your guyz ;P

After each network hop the MAC address of the current access point is not sent on to the next node, so Deepbit does not even know your MAC address until you told everyone on this forum Tongue (not that that's a bad thing.)

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August 14, 2012, 02:04:29 AM
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Any thought on introducing DGM to deepbit?

Why fix what ain't broke?

because it is broken, deepbit miners have to pay a "hopper" tax currently
That doesn't seem to dissuade 3.5TH of miners from mining there. What this says about the miners is up for debate by the psychologists. Hoppers win, regular miners mine like worker ants blissfully unaware and happy. Seems like a good symbiotic relationship to me... Somehow I can't see it lasting though <_<

Has anyone calculated/estimated this "hopper tax" on Deepbit?  When Ozco was proportional it was very easy to see the amount of hopper traffic.  It was about 300 GHash.  At that time Ozco was a 30 to 50 GHash pool so this probably did have a large effect on the payouts, I imagine.  But Deepbit is and has been a 3 to 5 THash pool, so if the hopper traffic is the same or similar 300GHash then payout losses to full time miners would be less, maybe even negligible.

I mine on Deepbit blissfully aware that I am using the most reliable pool available.  That means allot when I have to leave my rig unattended for a week or two at a time.  It's even worth the "Outrageous" 3% fee, in my opinion.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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August 14, 2012, 02:37:47 AM
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Has anyone calculated/estimated this "hopper tax" on Deepbit? 


Yes, although it was a few months ago now: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/22-deepbit-and-pool-hopping.html

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August 14, 2012, 04:55:36 AM
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Has anyone calculated/estimated this "hopper tax" on Deepbit? 


Yes, although it was a few months ago now: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/22-deepbit-and-pool-hopping.html

So a typical proportional payout loses 3% in pool fees (acceptable, and quite standard), and another potential 3% to hoppers ("strategic miners" as the article calls them), resulting in the average dedicated miner only being paid for ~94% of their hashing power. Ouch.

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August 14, 2012, 05:12:08 AM
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That was then. Loss to pool hoppers is proportional to the hashrate increase due to pool hoppers. I don't have time to check right now, but last time I did since I posted that, the hashrate increase due to pool hoppers was a lot less than it was.

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August 14, 2012, 12:50:07 PM
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F4-6D-04-2C-5E-02
This is a MAC address, it's not related to the filtration process.
When did your connection problems started ?

yes it is my Mac ID (F4-6D-04-2C-5E-02) and all my laptops and pcs are connected on the same router/ Ip there fore if my miner cant mine nor i can open the site on my rig then i guess its mac ID banned or something has to be.


ohhh wait i found the problem for why it didn't connect,

NOTE: If you running miners on your rigs don't install "Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware"  it blocks the site after few days, who knows why! BUT that fixed my problem Smiley Unchecked site blocking

sorry for blaming it on your guyz ;P



That's funny I've used "Malwarebytes" for years and don't have that problem
Maybe you should learn how to use Malwarebytes
All you need to do is put your miner in the "ignore list"


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