organofcorti
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September 02, 2012, 03:50:51 PM |
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I'm not sure there is an answer to this questions. Luck is luck afterall,
luck should be ignored if you're not mining PPS. Sorry to bother... But why should luck not be ignored if you;re mining PPS? As long as you get paid for every share you submit, what does the pool's luck matter? I'm sorry I think I meant luck should be ignored from day to day, morning to evening, if you're mining proportional (not mining pps). in time you'll make more money with the lower fee. I was answering my own question, why does it seem luck is bad for a longer time than it's good. Because I'm looking at it twice a day which is much too short of a time period. Extra long block solves weigh more heavily than average and less than average solve times can lift it back up in a 24 hour time span. I think this is clearer? Sure. I just thought you were saying that you shouldn't ignore luck for PPS, which didn't make sense. Anyway, good luck! |
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It is a common myth that Bitcoin is ruled by a majority of miners. This is not true. Bitcoin miners "vote" on the ordering of transactions, but that's all they do. They can't vote to change the network rules.
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dishwara
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September 02, 2012, 04:00:35 PM |
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You want something & you get it without any problem, then its called normal.
You want something & you can't get it then, its bad luck.
You want something, you get that & also you get some other thing which you never thought & that some other thing is good for you, then its good luck.
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FLHippy
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September 02, 2012, 05:08:30 PM |
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You want something & you get it without any problem, then its called normal.
You want something & you can't get it then, its bad luck.
You want something, you get that & also you get some other thing which you never thought & that some other thing is good for you, then its good luck.
You're not going to start throwing yoghurt are you? Cause what you're describing is what went down in Greece recently  |
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September 02, 2012, 11:46:16 PM |
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You want something & you get it without any problem, then its called normal.
You want something & you can't get it then, its bad luck.
You want something, you get that & also you get some other thing which you never thought & that some other thing is good for you, then its good luck.
You're not going to start throwing yoghurt are you? Cause what you're describing is what went down in Greece recently LOL! I live in Greece and believe me nothing of importance has happend as per the country's luck! We're on an economic disaster schedule since 2009 and the program is going on smoothly; until the economic sharks (foreign and domestic) acquire what's (they think) theirs. This is a pool discussion so I will stop here. As per luck; if you check the graphs, you will notice what several guys here said (including Tycho) it's constant. Look Slush/Deepbit/Eclipse (the biggest pools as per hashrate). Their luck is (almost) constant. If you project this to infinity; you might as well have a very smooth line. Just my 20c... |
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Tittiez
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September 04, 2012, 03:42:28 AM |
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This block... almost 11K shares and counting.
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[Tycho]
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September 08, 2012, 12:26:11 PM |
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This block... almost 11K shares and counting.
Don't worry. With current difficulty it's even less than 400% D :) |
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Tittiez
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September 09, 2012, 08:10:50 PM |
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This block... almost 11K shares and counting.
Don't worry. With current difficulty it's even less than 400% D That makes it just as bad Tycho.  |
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fcmatt
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September 09, 2012, 09:42:34 PM |
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Thycho, all this hashing power hitting your pool recently.. A bunch of smaller miners or a few big players?
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[Tycho]
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September 09, 2012, 09:50:26 PM |
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Tycho, all this hashing power hitting your pool recently.. A bunch of smaller miners or a few big players? Total hashrate reached 4-4.1 TH/s slowly over time and it looks like relatively small miners. Some peaks up to 4.8 TH/s were possibly caused by someone directing GPUMAX here via special kind of proxy. I'm working on this. |
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Shadow383
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September 09, 2012, 10:03:37 PM |
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Tycho, all this hashing power hitting your pool recently.. A bunch of smaller miners or a few big players? Total hashrate reached 4-4.1 TH/s slowly over time and it looks like relatively small miners. Some peaks up to 4.8 TH/s were possibly caused by someone directing GPUMAX here via special kind of proxy. I'm working on this. Out of curiosity, why don't you allow GPUMax? |
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[Tycho]
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September 09, 2012, 10:16:34 PM |
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Out of curiosity, why don't you allow GPUMax? GPUMAX is allowed, but in this exact case someone tried to poolhop with that hashing power. Since GPUmax is (possibly) not allowing random destinations then it may be some other "project". |
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Shadow383
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September 09, 2012, 11:35:42 PM |
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Out of curiosity, why don't you allow GPUMax? GPUMAX is allowed, but in this exact case someone tried to poolhop with that hashing power. Since GPUmax is (possibly) not allowing random destinations then it may be some other "project". GPUMax is allowing random destinations, but I can't imagine your average hopping proxy would handle a full-bore GPUMax hit. What would you class as poolhopping in these circumstances? GPUMax purchases have been starting pretty well instantly, so what if, for example, I made a purchase and activated it when Deepbit solved a block? I could have maybe 100,000 shares all clustered towards the start of one particular round. Would that be enough to get the account blocked? |
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[Tycho]
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September 09, 2012, 11:51:39 PM |
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What would you class as poolhopping in these circumstances? GPUMax purchases have been starting pretty well instantly, so what if, for example, I made a purchase and activated it when Deepbit solved a block? I could have maybe 100,000 shares all clustered towards the start of one particular round. Would that be enough to get the account blocked? No, probability of false positives is extremely low. I don't think that it's possible. I saw many "good" bursts from GPUmax and it was ok. |
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RobertRibbeck
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September 10, 2012, 03:17:15 PM |
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It's been over 2 days since deepbit changed his payout
WHY ??
I'm seeing higher hash rate and more found shares than previously
so why
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[Tycho]
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September 10, 2012, 06:51:25 PM |
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It's been over 2 days since deepbit changed his payout
WHY ?? What change are you talking about ? Nothing related to payment was changed. |
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RobertRibbeck
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September 10, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
Last edit: September 10, 2012, 09:26:29 PM by RobertRibbeck |
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It's been over 2 days since deepbit changed his payout
WHY ?? What change are you talking about ? Nothing related to payment was changed. EXCUSE ME "nothing related to payment" pay per share dropped from .00001843777 to .00001670349 (almost 10%) at least 56 hrs ago I've watch the payout drop for month after month if it was the "difficulty" I can't see it here, I'm still finding just as many shares .. with the same hash rate Just getting paid less and less for those shares |
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fcmatt
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September 10, 2012, 09:23:48 PM |
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It's been over 2 days since deepbit changed his payout
WHY ?? What change are you talking about ? Nothing related to payment was changed. EXCUSE ME pay per share dropped from .00001843777 to .00001670349 at least 56 hrs ago I've watch the payout drop for month after month while if it was the "difficulty" I can't see it here, I'm still finding just as many shares .. with the same hash rate Just getting paid less and less for those shares heh. i will let deepbit admin answer this one. |
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September 10, 2012, 09:25:19 PM |
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.00001670349 x 2694047.952955 = 45.000 So that means they are charging 10% for PPS - sounds about right. Edit: and .0000184377 × 2440642.606916 = 45.000 also ... Edit2: 197568 18:10:37 6-Sep-2012 UTC 0x1a063a38 (2694047.952955)
197567 18:10:24 6-Sep-2012 UTC 0x1a06dfbe (2440642.606916)
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RobertRibbeck
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September 10, 2012, 09:31:39 PM |
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.00001670349 x 2694047.952955 = 45.000 So that means they are charging 10% for PPS - sounds about right. Edit: and .0000184377 × 2440642.606916 = 45.000 also ... Edit2: 197568 18:10:37 6-Sep-2012 UTC 0x1a063a38 (2694047.952955)
197567 18:10:24 6-Sep-2012 UTC 0x1a06dfbe (2440642.606916)
Care to explain WTF you said |
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September 10, 2012, 09:32:58 PM |
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.00001670349 x 2694047.952955 = 45.000 So that means they are charging 10% for PPS - sounds about right. Edit: and .0000184377 × 2440642.606916 = 45.000 also ... Edit2: 197568 18:10:37 6-Sep-2012 UTC 0x1a063a38 (2694047.952955)
197567 18:10:24 6-Sep-2012 UTC 0x1a06dfbe (2440642.606916)
Care to explain WTF you said hah. i was expecting that. as diff goes up.. you get paid less per share. the reverse is also true. |
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