[DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too

[btc199]

2013-04-28 14:08 I got the bitcoin。

[georgeberz]

I am having a bad time most of the day today with mining issues of cant get blocks to process...

It seems it crunches 1 block then for a min or so it sits until it gets another block
Is this a problem on my end or deepbit?

Thank you

George

[[Tycho]]

It seems it crunches 1 block then for a min or so it sits until it gets another block
Is this a problem on my end or deepbit?

Are you using guiminer or poclbm ? Looks like there is a bug in poclmb code.
You can try to use cgminer or guiminer+cgminer combo to check if that was the issue.

[eifiug]

@ [Tycho] When I try to send you a pm it ends up to another user named Tycho with 295 posts.
I tried to change my bitcoin address but I never received the confirmation mail.

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[organofcorti]

@ [Tycho] When I try to send you a pm it ends up to another user named Tycho with 295 posts.
I tried to change my bitcoin address but I never received the confirmation mail.

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Click on [Tycho]'s name in his posts. Then click "Send this member a personal message". Should get through ok. Or you could try sending a PM to DeepBit.

[eifiug]

@ [Tycho] When I try to send you a pm it ends up to another user named Tycho with 295 posts.
I tried to change my bitcoin address but I never received the confirmation mail.

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Click on [Tycho]'s name in his posts. Then click "Send this member a personal message". Should get through ok. Or you could try sending a PM to DeepBit.

I already tried that, the PM still goes to the wrong Tycho. The DeepBit user was last active in January.

[os2sam]

@ [Tycho] When I try to send you a pm it ends up to another user named Tycho with 295 posts.
I tried to change my bitcoin address but I never received the confirmation mail.

Waiting for confirmation of your new bitcoin address:
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Click on [Tycho]'s name in his posts. Then click "Send this member a personal message". Should get through ok. Or you could try sending a PM to DeepBit.

I already tried that, the PM still goes to the wrong Tycho. The DeepBit user was last active in January.

The DeepBit "user" isn't a specific person.  Sometimes it's [Tycho] sometimes it's one of the other admins.  So that would be a good one to PM in light of the problems with [Tycho]'s account.  However I have never had trouble reaching him through that account.
Sam

[eifiug]

@ [Tycho] When I try to send you a pm it ends up to another user named Tycho with 295 posts.
I tried to change my bitcoin address but I never received the confirmation mail.

Waiting for confirmation of your new bitcoin address:
1CQJbDVuqzQKHXDJHedWxwrydskbBZXA9g
If you can't receive our e-mail, please contact us.

Click on [Tycho]'s name in his posts. Then click "Send this member a personal message". Should get through ok. Or you could try sending a PM to DeepBit.

I already tried that, the PM still goes to the wrong Tycho. The DeepBit user was last active in January.

The DeepBit "user" isn't a specific person.  Sometimes it's [Tycho] sometimes it's one of the other admins.  So that would be a good one to PM in light of the problems with [Tycho]'s account.  However I have never had trouble reaching him through that account.
Sam

I will try to contact him there then. Thanks for the help guys.

[[Tycho]]

theymos told me what happened with the PMs (thought I still don't know HOW this happened), hope this will be fixed soon.

[vasvla]

Hi, Tycho,
I've sent you 3 same messages via PM, but as you know they got redirected to some other account, so I'll try here as I just passed forum noob restrictions...

I'll c/p sample of my statistics:

Time/Link          Found in   Your             Total        Reward

29.04 15:17:57   0h 52m   615     1894788    0.00787093
29.04 14:25:15   5h 56m   4088      12532185    0.00788713
29.04 08:28:19   1h 39m   1144   3552804    0.00780848
29.04 06:49:03   1h 13m   861           2628794    0.00794252
29.04 05:35:56   9h 28m   6041      19191553    0.00361762 <-------------------------------------- (Block 233685)
28.04 20:07:17   0h 30m   340           1080488    0.00763081
28.04 19:37:10   3h 35m   2355   7643323    0.00734798

Worker payout method was proportional for all these blocks, so it is expected to get paid pretty evenly for each block,  with condition that ratio of pool hash rate / my hash rate stays the same.  As you may see by the number of my shares and the total number of shares for each block in the sample it is true, how do you explain more than 50% cut for block 233685? 

Tnx in advance for your  answer and I hope that issue about PM redirection is going to be solved asap. I know this kind of message is not most suitable for forum discussion, but I don't have other choice.

Regards, vasvla

[[Tycho]]

29.04 05:35:56   9h 28m   6041      19191553    0.00361762 <-------------------------------------- (Block 233685)
28.04 20:07:17   0h 30m   340           1080488    0.00763081
28.04 19:37:10   3h 35m   2355   7643323    0.00734798

Worker payout method was proportional for all these blocks, so it is expected to get paid pretty evenly for each block,  with condition that ratio of pool hash rate / my hash rate stays the same.  As you may see by the number of my shares and the total number of shares for each block in the sample it is true, how do you explain more than 50% cut for block 233685?

It may be cause by some connectivity problems between the pool and your miner, so less shares were submitted during this round. Can you check this ?

[[Tycho]]

Pool's website is temporarily unavailable, I'm working on this.
Mining shouldn't be affected.

[organofcorti]

29.04 05:35:56   9h 28m   6041      19191553    0.00361762 <-------------------------------------- (Block 233685)
28.04 20:07:17   0h 30m   340           1080488    0.00763081
28.04 19:37:10   3h 35m   2355   7643323    0.00734798

Worker payout method was proportional for all these blocks, so it is expected to get paid pretty evenly for each block,  with condition that ratio of pool hash rate / my hash rate stays the same.  As you may see by the number of my shares and the total number of shares for each block in the sample it is true, how do you explain more than 50% cut for block 233685?

It may be cause by some connectivity problems between the pool and your miner, so less shares were submitted during this round. Can you check this ?

I think what he means is that the proportion of shares is similar in each round, but the payment is different. I think your prop fee is 3%, so:

6041  /   19191553 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007633267, was paid only 0.00361762
340    /   1080488 * 25 * 0.97 =   0.007630811
2355  /   7643323 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007471717

[[Tycho]]

I think what he means is that the proportion of shares is similar in each round, but the payment is different. I think your prop fee is 3%, so:

6041  /   19191553 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007633267, was paid only 0.00361762
340    /   1080488 * 25 * 0.97 =   0.007630811
2355  /   7643323 * 25 * 0.97 =  0.007471717

Oh, sorry, didn't read this carefully enough.
Then maybe he temporarily switched some of his miners to PPS mode ? PPS reward is not shown in this table.

[eifiug]

@ [tycho] Impossible to PM you and no answer from the DeepBit account, so I'll try again here.
 I never received the confirmation mail when I switched bitcoin address.

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[vasvla]

Oh, sorry, didn't read this carefully enough.
Then maybe he temporarily switched some of his miners to PPS mode ? PPS reward is not shown in this table.

Tycho, I'm certain I haven't done proportional -> pps switch during shown blocks, furthermore that problematic block was in the middle of the night while I was sleeping and I don't have any software for automatic management of my workers. Too bad I don't have access to some log so I can prove it, my miners haven't reported anything strange about rejected blocks or something, but maybe you may check it out in pool logs and pass me info via PM or even better make more info accessible on the site.

0.4 bt cents is not much of difference, but I'm more interested in the true reason why that happened and to help you investigate the case so it won't repeat. I'm developer myself and I don't like when things don't work as expected

[[Tycho]]

@ [tycho] Impossible to PM you and no answer from the DeepBit account, so I'll try again here.
 I never received the confirmation mail when I switched bitcoin address.

Yes, looks like the problem is in your e-mail service. I'll send you a message manually, from gmail now.

UPD: Solved.

[nonServiam]

Hello, i have requested instant payout but not receive it. I can not see a transaction logged on blockexplorer.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

Error
No such transaction

[[Tycho]]

Hello, i have requested instant payout but not receive it. I can not see a transaction logged on blockexplorer.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

Error
No such transaction

Blockexplorer only shows confirmed TXes. Try switching to blockchain.info at the pool's options page.

[nonServiam]

Hello, i have requested instant payout but not receive it. I can not see a transaction logged on blockexplorer.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421

Error
No such transaction

Blockexplorer only shows confirmed TXes. Try switching to blockchain.info at the pool's options page.

Transaction not found

http://blockchain.info/tx/3a1ea6f7bf4995fbc36e02c3a6df271bafe2152e43c10f36f61a68020a2ef421