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April 19, 2011, 02:01:54 AM
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How exactly are the doing the DDoS attack, i understand the nature, and i know theres different ways, but what particular aspect are they attacking?
I don't have all the info. May be someone requests a lot of web pages, increasing load on database engine.

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April 19, 2011, 05:06:59 AM
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first time i see this!!
19.04.2011 06:37:23   1h 59m    271975   0.35076570
19.04.2011 04:37:33   0h 04m    8840   None
19.04.2011 04:33:31   0h 20m    46021   None
19.04.2011 04:13:07   0h 01m    2471   None
19.04.2011 04:11:57   0h 07m    17774   None
19.04.2011 04:04:07   1h 41m    232794   0.21063043
19.04.2011 02:23:00   2h 14m    310904   0.45675836
19.04.2011 00:08:07   1h 20m    180335   0.46204564

for an unknown reason my system seems to low its hashrate to the half or even at zero!!!!

but the cards are still working at their full capacity!
very very strange!!!!

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April 19, 2011, 05:26:38 AM
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first time i see this!!
19.04.2011 06:37:23   1h 59m    271975   0.35076570
19.04.2011 04:37:33   0h 04m    8840   None
19.04.2011 04:33:31   0h 20m    46021   None
19.04.2011 04:13:07   0h 01m    2471   None
19.04.2011 04:11:57   0h 07m    17774   None
19.04.2011 04:04:07   1h 41m    232794   0.21063043
19.04.2011 02:23:00   2h 14m    310904   0.45675836
19.04.2011 00:08:07   1h 20m    180335   0.46204564

for an unknown reason my system seems to low its hashrate to the half or even at zero!!!!

but the cards are still working at their full capacity!
very very strange!!!!

It basically means deepbit.net has not received shares from you.

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April 19, 2011, 11:15:04 AM
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If any of you mine on a windows machine which you use for web browsing and gaming like I do you might find the following useful:

Don't watch your (long) videos online- for some reason my hasrate drops by ~50% when a (e.g. youtube) video is open in Firefox (doesn't matter if it's playing or not). This is probably due to Flash taking up one of the GPUs for itself (running an ATI 5770 Sapphire).

Use this Firefox extension : http://www.downloadhelper.net/ to download the video and watch it in your favourite player ( I use VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) - this drops the hashrate by as little as ~2-3% instead.
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April 19, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
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Don't watch your (long) videos online- for some reason my hasrate drops by ~50% when a (e.g. youtube) video is open in Firefox (doesn't matter if it's playing or not). This is probably due to Flash taking up one of the GPUs for itself (running an ATI 5770 Sapphire).
This is caused by the card's hardware decoder which is designed to run at 400MHz. Your BIOS will have a seperate PowerPlay state for this, which is different from the 3 states controlled by ATI Overdrive. Apparently flashing a BIOS with edited UVD state to force a higher clock rate just causes it to crash, so the best solution is to simply not use it.
For YouTube, right click the video, go to Settings and uncheck Enable Hardware Acceleration.
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April 19, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
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So, i just bought a ATI HD 6970, I had a Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT...Hash rate from 20MH/s > 320 MH/s

But, i have an issue, my screen keeps going black and the fan returns to a slow speed when ever i do ANYTHING but hash..Any ideas?

Edit: It's hashed for about 10 hours straight now without crashing, thats with just HW Monitor and guiminer up, and Afterburner minimized(if its up my comp crashes).  I am also afraid to run steam right now, just an idea, but it'd probably crash.



Don't watch your (long) videos online- for some reason my hasrate drops by ~50% when a (e.g. youtube) video is open in Firefox (doesn't matter if it's playing or not). This is probably due to Flash taking up one of the GPUs for itself (running an ATI 5770 Sapphire).
This is caused by the card's hardware decoder which is designed to run at 400MHz. Your BIOS will have a seperate PowerPlay state for this, which is different from the 3 states controlled by ATI Overdrive. Apparently flashing a BIOS with edited UVD state to force a higher clock rate just causes it to crash, so the best solution is to simply not use it.
For YouTube, right click the video, go to Settings and uncheck Enable Hardware Acceleration.
That is surprisingly helpful, ty for that oO

How exactly are the doing the DDoS attack, i understand the nature, and i know theres different ways, but what particular aspect are they attacking?
I don't have all the info. May be someone requests a lot of web pages, increasing load on database engine.

bitcoinpool.com is stating "Keep an eye on your account while we deal with this.", so they could be trying to break passwords, or that may just be a cautionary statement

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April 19, 2011, 02:44:58 PM
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Yeah! I have now a Mining Rig!

1 - 2x5850 @ 900 (300+300=600MH/s) (mining rig -> 24/7) (C2D E6600 2.4 @ 3.2GHz)
2 - 1x6970 @ 1000 (330MH/s) (gaming rig ~ 13h per day) (i7 2600K 3.4 @ 5GHz)
3 - 1x5570 @ stock (60MH/s) (working rig ~ 24/7) (AMD 64 X2 6000+ @ 3GHz)
4 - 1x5450 @ stock (12MH/s) (HTPC rig ~ 24/7) (P4 2.8 @ 3GHz)

TOTAL ~ 1GH/s

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April 19, 2011, 02:48:28 PM
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How exactly are the doing the DDoS attack, i understand the nature, and i know theres different ways, but what particular aspect are they attacking?
I don't have all the info. May be someone requests a lot of web pages, increasing load on database engine.
bitcoinpool.com is stating "Keep an eye on your account while we deal with this.", so they could be trying to break passwords, or that may just be a cautionary statement
DoS/DDoS and bruteforce password cracking are completely different things.
Some pools show all their login names, so that may be a reason of such attack.

I'm monitoring the pool health/stats and will notice something like that.

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April 19, 2011, 02:50:36 PM
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Yeah! I have now a Mining Rig!
TOTAL ~ 1GH/s
Thanks for your participation :)

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April 19, 2011, 03:34:17 PM
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How exactly are the doing the DDoS attack, i understand the nature, and i know theres different ways, but what particular aspect are they attacking?
I don't have all the info. May be someone requests a lot of web pages, increasing load on database engine.
bitcoinpool.com is stating "Keep an eye on your account while we deal with this.", so they could be trying to break passwords, or that may just be a cautionary statement
DoS/DDoS and bruteforce password cracking are completely different things.
Some pools show all their login names, so that may be a reason of such attack.

I'm monitoring the pool health/stats and will notice something like that.

Thanks, hope it doesn't happen though

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April 19, 2011, 07:33:34 PM
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Yeah! I have now a Mining Rig!
TOTAL ~ 1GH/s
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April 19, 2011, 09:18:18 PM
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Tycho, I love you. You are definitly worth your tax.
Thankyou for all of your continuous improovments that never cease to appear as a neccessity.

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April 19, 2011, 11:19:39 PM
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Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).

In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?
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April 19, 2011, 11:55:41 PM
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Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).
In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?
No, your CPU shouldn't affect mining speed in any way.

What miner do you use ? You can also check threads on the 6990 mining in this forum - may be there is some solution.

Many users ask me about PPS/Proportional, but this depends on the current luck. Sometimes the PPS may give you more (when pool is unlucky) and sometimes less.
If you are going to mine 24/7 then overall Proportional may give you more because proportional fee is 3% instead of 10% in PPS (the price for share is 45/difficulty). But it's not guaranted that average shares per block number will be equal to difficulty - it may be more or less than that.
The main use case for PPS is when you want to have steady payout rate, not depending on pool luck at all (you will receive your reward even if there are no blocks found for a long time).

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April 20, 2011, 07:27:27 PM
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Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).
In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?
No, your CPU shouldn't affect mining speed in any way.

What miner do you use ? You can also check threads on the 6990 mining in this forum - may be there is some solution.

Many users ask me about PPS/Proportional, but this depends on the current luck. Sometimes the PPS may give you more (when pool is unlucky) and sometimes less.
If you are going to mine 24/7 then overall Proportional may give you more because proportional fee is 3% instead of 10% in PPS (the price for share is 45/difficulty). But it's not guaranted that average shares per block number will be equal to difficulty - it may be more or less than that.
The main use case for PPS is when you want to have steady payout rate, not depending on pool luck at all (you will receive your reward even if there are no blocks found for a long time).

I'm using poclbm-gui.  I added "-v -w128 -f0" to the flags section of poclbm-gui and that increased my rate by quite a bit. 

Also, after looking at my first nearly 24 hour period it looks like I'll be much better off using PPS with my single 6990.  For the past 22 hours I've used proportional and I've earned 2.78205276 BTC.  That seems pretty bad.  If I had used PPS, then right now I'd have about ~4 BTC [  (8300 shares) x (0.00048 BTC/share) = ~4 BTC].
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April 20, 2011, 07:28:05 PM
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Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).

In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?

Yes, the CPU may be holding you back...  I hear using linux will cure this.  Also, Stream SDK 2.1 or 2.2 is best... although maybe you can't use that with the 6 series card??

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April 20, 2011, 07:43:28 PM
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Wow!  It's been over three hours since the deepbit pool has found a block. 
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April 20, 2011, 07:53:18 PM
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Quick question from a Bitcoin Mining newbie.

Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.

My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

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April 20, 2011, 08:02:11 PM
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Also, after looking at my first nearly 24 hour period it looks like I'll be much better off using PPS with my single 6990.  For the past 22 hours I've used proportional and I've earned 2.78205276 BTC.  That seems pretty bad.  If I had used PPS, then right now I'd have about ~4 BTC [  (8300 shares) x (0.00048 BTC/share) = ~4 BTC].
That's because the pool luck today is lower than usual - PPS is more profitable in this case.

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April 20, 2011, 08:05:10 PM
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Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.
My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.
Am I missing something?
On the payouts page click on date and wallet links - you'll see the transaction itself and the log of operations with your wallet. Check the sum on those pages.

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