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May 04, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
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Looking over the last 24 hours, this has happened several times.  VPN is stable, Netflix doesn't hiccup, connections elsewhere are very stable.  This appears to be outside of Comcast ... can't say whether it is your servers or network unless I can run diagnostics on it when it happens and if the "mini outage" is long enough to do so.

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May 04, 2011, 11:06:03 PM
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Thanks for the reply, im using the new windows GUI interface with a 6990, usage never drops through afterburner and hash rate (according to clint never wavers too much at all) is this a client problem? do I need to ask nicely for them to fix it? (Im doing Pay per share - which is why it matters)

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May 04, 2011, 11:08:40 PM
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Here is a list starting when I first started seeing it.  Note this is long ...

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:03:34, long poll: new block 000035eb555f7109
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:16:05, long poll: new block 00000783c8fcd3c4
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:17:53, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:17:53, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:18:09, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:18:10, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:18:18, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:18:32, long poll: new block 000012af4599a6e0
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:19:23, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:19:23, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:19:33, long poll: new block 000056dd26cf24b3
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:26:33, long poll: new block 000026ffb9405747
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:35:30, long poll: new block 0000197f32cec885
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:39:12, long poll: new block 0000141f10dd8139
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:42:13, long poll: new block 00005863965ade33
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:46:51, long poll: new block 000022695f4cbb69
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 13:50:06, long poll: new block 00001aa30d88f230
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 14:04:12, long poll: new block 000039f548f245f7
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 14:05:45, long poll: new block 000008ded7e6be58
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 14:44:16, long poll: new block 0000764562ab68c2
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 14:47:11, long poll: new block 000023cfd11507d9
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 14:57:00, long poll: new block 00005eb077fca76b
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:12:13, long poll: new block 0000855b0b0af926
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:14:59, long poll: new block 000061bc76e3466e
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:17:39, long poll: new block 00006a2c9b40a8d1
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:21:34, long poll: new block 00004a1accfc9fe4
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:22:37, long poll: new block 00009368dccdd23c
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:34:17, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:35:22, long poll: new block 000081a7f8408258
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:46:16, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:46:16, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:50:03, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:50:03, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:51:45, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:51:46, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:52:47, long poll: new block 0000967a22b958bc
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 15:54:32, long poll: new block 00000f5e7fb39e76
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:00:41, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:00:42, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:05:25, warning: job finished, miner is idle

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:09:38, long poll: new block 000068407a6768ab
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:11:11, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:11:11, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:16:17, long poll: new block 00004c05f2ed4597
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:17:56, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:22:00, long poll: new block 00007a7aa1116f24
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:22:11, long poll: new block 000094f254e851f0
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:24:32, long poll: new block 000070109bf8c695
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:44:01, long poll: new block 00006d431e05f644
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:45:17, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:46:57, long poll: new block 00007cfedffce7a2
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:48:54, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:51:55, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:51:55, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:53:23, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:53:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 16:57:46, warning: job finished, miner is idle

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:09:47, long poll: new block 000074f180ae5f0a
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:10:34, long poll: new block 000001b34fa555da
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:13:18, long poll: new block 0000151e507c76ad
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:24:22, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:26:38, long poll: new block 00002f3427f02d18
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:31:29, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:31:30, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:34:23, long poll: new block 000080247f9334f1
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:37:18, long poll: new block 00000182fab8bdec
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:43:35, long poll: new block 000026c251a79438
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:45:57, long poll: new block 0000781183a2e1a9
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:46:43, long poll: new block 00000b3542f08cdc
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:48:40, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:48:47, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:56:44, warning: job finished, miner is idle

Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:58:09, long poll: new block 0000094d2c016d84
Listener for "Deepbit": 04/05/2011 17:58:59, long poll: new block 000066b8b1805c35

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May 04, 2011, 11:10:16 PM
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Thanks for the reply, im using the new windows GUI interface with a 6990, usage never drops through afterburner and hash rate (according to clint never wavers too much at all) is this a client problem? do I need to ask nicely for them to fix it? (Im doing Pay per share - which is why it matters)
Set your averaging window to 30 minutes in advanced settings and try again - then luck meter will be more precise. Short drops or peaks are absolutely normal because sometimes you are more lucky and sometimes not.

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May 04, 2011, 11:16:13 PM
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Here is a list starting when I first started seeing it.  Note this is long ...
Open your command prompt and try the following commands:

nslookup deepbit.net

And

telnet deepbit.net 8332

Tell me what outputs do you get.
Also you'd better send that long log to my PM, not here :)

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May 04, 2011, 11:20:21 PM
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Here is a list starting when I first started seeing it.  Note this is long ...
Open your command prompt and try the following commands:

nslookup deepbit.net

And

telnet deepbit.net 8332

Tell me what outputs do you get.
Also you'd better send that long log to my PM, not here Smiley

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    deepbit.net
Address:  46.4.99.204

telnet makes a connection, but no text response.  I hit ctrl-c to break the connection and get:

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<head><title>400 Bad Request</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>400 Bad Request</h1></center>
<hr><center>nginx/1.0.0</center>
</body>
</html>


Connection to host lost.

Traceroute shows a convoluted route through what looks like France and Germany.

Tracing route to deepbit.net [46.4.99.204]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     7 ms     6 ms     7 ms  73.115.174.1
  2     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  ge-9-1-ur02.hamlake.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.85.165.229]
  3     8 ms     9 ms     *     te-0-3-0-2-ar01.roseville.mn.minn.comcast.net [68.87.174.70]
  4    19 ms    17 ms    18 ms  te-0-4-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.137]
  5    94 ms    53 ms    54 ms  pos-2-10-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.113]
  6    54 ms    53 ms    53 ms  pos-0-4-0-0-pe01.111eighthave.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.22]
  7    53 ms     *       53 ms  nyk-s2-rou-1001.us.eurorings.net [75.149.228.126]
  8    82 ms    53 ms    53 ms  nyk-s2-rou-1021.US.eurorings.net [134.222.226.38]
  9   157 ms   149 ms   133 ms  nntr-s1-rou-1022.FR.eurorings.net [134.222.226.162]
 10   143 ms   141 ms   141 ms  ffm-s1-rou-1022.DE.eurorings.net [134.222.229.30]
 11     *      141 ms   189 ms  ffm-s1-rou-1021.DE.eurorings.net [134.222.231.141]
 12   147 ms   145 ms   145 ms  nbg-s1-rou-1001.DE.eurorings.net [134.222.225.26]
 13   145 ms   147 ms   146 ms  kpn-gw.hetzner.de [134.222.107.21]
 14   163 ms   150 ms   160 ms  hos-bb2.juniper1.fs.hetzner.de [213.239.240.146]
 15   148 ms   151 ms   174 ms  hos-tr1.ex3k7.rz14.hetzner.de [213.239.224.136]
 16     *      149 ms   152 ms  j2.deepbit.net [46.4.99.204]

Trace complete.

Also, the idle warnings are still occurring.


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May 04, 2011, 11:24:24 PM
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telnet makes a connection, but no text response.  I hit ctrl-c to break the connection and get:
Looks fine to me.
PM me your login, i'll check my logs.

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May 04, 2011, 11:27:11 PM
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telnet makes a connection, but no text response.  I hit ctrl-c to break the connection and get:
Looks fine to me.
PM me your login, i'll check my logs.

Sent.

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This may correspond to the following "None" (I notice a few today).

Time/Link                      Found in   Total shares   Reward
04.05.2011 17:45:57      0h 08m    38530      0.05412665
04.05.2011 17:37:18      1h 15m    343831      0.05007547
04.05.2011 16:22:11      0h 00m    625         None
04.05.2011 16:22:00      0h 29m    134977      0.05138283

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May 05, 2011, 12:26:07 AM
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This may correspond to the following "None" (I notice a few today).
04.05.2011 16:22:11      0h 00m    625         None
No, I think that there was "None" just because the round was only few seconds long.

I don't see anything wrong with you at my side, it's strange. May be you had some connection problems.

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I've had alot of those "none"s too
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May 05, 2011, 02:48:48 AM
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Quick question from a newbie:  is there a general consensus on the hashrate where proportional is more profitable than PPS (or vice versa) over the long-term?
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I've had alot of those "none"s too
It depends on your hashrate and payout mode.
In PPS mode it should be always "none" because PPS is not connected with blocks.
What is your hashrate ?

Quick question from a newbie:  is there a general consensus on the hashrate where proportional is more profitable than PPS (or vice versa) over the long-term?
It doesn't depends on your hashrate, only on pool's luck.
With PPS your income is always constant. With Proportional it will be more at normal and gool luck or less at bad luck times.

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May 05, 2011, 05:39:37 AM
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Just curious why the automatic payout seems so random? Sometimes it happens more than once per day, sometimes the payout isnt automatic for greater than 24h. I'm sure there's a reason just curious what it might be?

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Just curious why the automatic payout seems so random? Sometimes it happens more than once per day, sometimes the payout isnt automatic for greater than 24h. I'm sure there's a reason just curious what it might be?

For me, as long as the threshold is low enough, payout is almost exactly 24 hours give or take [although the web interface may not reflect your balance until it is updated at the next hour mark.  My last two payouts were 23:12 yesterday and 23:30 today.  Maybe you are just not getting notified quickly via the bitcoin P2P cloud?  I usually get notification in my bitcoin client almost instantly however.

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Just curious why the automatic payout seems so random? Sometimes it happens more than once per day, sometimes the payout isnt automatic for greater than 24h. I'm sure there's a reason just curious what it might be?
Well, actually there is no reason :)
Sometimes I run the payments manually to test if it's working after fixing something. But usually it should not pay automatically before 24 hours.
You don't need to worry while your money is not lost :)

I understand that some of you may use 24h-payments to measure daily income, then sorry for out-of-shedule ones.
I'll add "daily income" table soon.

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May 05, 2011, 06:08:02 AM
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Quick question from a newbie:  is there a general consensus on the hashrate where proportional is more profitable than PPS (or vice versa) over the long-term?

I mine at 150-220mhash/s (depends if im on my machine or not). And right now, Prop has paid out more than pps.
Since my last payout i've submitted 13660 shares.
PPS - 13660 @ .00041/ share = 5.604698 btc
Prop - same amount of shares = 6.07452664 btc

Of course..with a string of bad luck on the pool the difference would change.

I also avg .035btc/ block and love those <10min blocks  Cool
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May 05, 2011, 06:47:17 AM
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if i am not mistaken the prop. is the one if luck is negative! pps is the one if luck is positive, according to Tycho's statistics Wink
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May 05, 2011, 08:07:33 AM
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if i am not mistaken the prop. is the one if luck is negative! pps is the one if luck is positive, according to Tycho's statistics Wink

U switched it.
PPS when luck is negative & Proportional when luck is positive.
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May 05, 2011, 12:16:52 PM
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hey tycho, i have been cashing out for the past week and recieved everyone except this one.

i cashed out 12 yesterday night with my ipod touch on safari for the first time, not sure if that might be the problem

on the deepbit account it says this:
05.05.2011 03:06   1GKAYrw4ZCMDHNmJtNWi...   12.24

this was on the list of payments.

i think it might be the ipod but iunno

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