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April 20, 2011, 08:06:03 PM
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the last 2 days were worst than ever Smiley
i guess pps would be better!

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April 20, 2011, 08:07:04 PM
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Wow!  It's been over three hours since the deepbit pool has found a block. 
Some other pool today had a block with more than a 1000000 shares in it. So it's possible and long blocks are encountered sometimes.

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April 20, 2011, 08:09:56 PM
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the last 2 days were worst than ever Smiley
i guess pps would be better!
You should notice that both previous difficulty spans were more successful than usual - up to +15% reward for more than 2 weeks. Both positive and negative deviations are possible.

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April 20, 2011, 08:13:11 PM
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Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.
My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.
Am I missing something?
On the payouts page click on date and wallet links - you'll see the transaction itself and the log of operations with your wallet. Check the sum on those pages.

Hmm, looks like my address was wrong for some reason - may I hit new by mistake in my Bitcoin client

Does that means the coins are gone Sad?

Update : I see the old address in my address book - maybe it's taking more than a few days to come through - I'l sit it out. Thanks for the quick response.
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April 20, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
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Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.
My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.
Am I missing something?
On the payouts page click on date and wallet links - you'll see the transaction itself and the log of operations with your wallet. Check the sum on those pages.
Hmm, looks like my address was wrong for some reason - may I hit new by mistake in my Bitcoin client
Does that means the coins are gone :(?
Update : I see the old address in my address book - maybe it's taking more than a few days to come through - I'l sit it out. Thanks for the quick response.
All your old addresses are still working.
Usually the transaction should appear in your bitcoin client instantly and receive first confirmation in 10 minutes (in rare cases up to one hour).
If you see this transaction in bitcoin block explorer then everything is fine.

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April 20, 2011, 08:53:03 PM
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Instant payout shows up in my client in seconds.  Just a data point.  I am seeing a very small amount of stale shares, 7150 (0.11%), but that is MUCH lower than with the slush pool.  I need to do some comparisons between the pools on total payout however (and uptime of the site).

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April 20, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
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Instant payout shows up in my client in seconds.  Just a data point.  I am seeing a very small amount of stale shares, 7150 (0.11%), but that is MUCH lower than with the slush pool.  I need to do some comparisons between the pools on total payout however (and uptime of the site).
The difference in stale shares amount is caused by long polling support.

When comparing total payouts remember to take a long enough timeframe because luck deviation will affect measurements.

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April 20, 2011, 10:33:38 PM
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Instant payout shows up in my client in seconds.  Just a data point.  I am seeing a very small amount of stale shares, 7150 (0.11%), but that is MUCH lower than with the slush pool.  I need to do some comparisons between the pools on total payout however (and uptime of the site).
The difference in stale shares amount is caused by long polling support.

When comparing total payouts remember to take a long enough timeframe because luck deviation will affect measurements.

Yes I knew this was due to long polling; why isn't this used more widely I wonder?  I was thinking 20000 shares or maybe just 96 hours (Saturday at 4:20PM I would switch over I guess).  The difference in fees though is 3% for deepbit as opposed to 2% slush, correct?  It seems to me that the stale shares alone make that up.  If I start running and see stale shares get anywhere near 1%, I will end the test early.  I do like the feature that slush offers of being able to see the unconfirmed payout.   For me, I knew that eventually, my payout would be 9.99 and I set the payout limit one bit cent below that and it worked great, but with instant payout, it is sort of a non-issue [it is not as if I am going to pool jump anyway unless good reason suggests itself] and the need to do something like that, other than pool testing, would be rare.  I like both pools and want both to succeed. 

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April 20, 2011, 10:56:26 PM
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I do like the feature that slush offers of being able to see the unconfirmed payout.
That's because all balance is always "confirmed" in deepbit :)

Maybe when I fix my older computer I can get another GPU online for mining :)  It is over four years old (Core2 Q6600, 5GB DDR2-800 RAM with PCIx x16) but will take an 6990 or a 6970 if I want
Core2 is not old, but CPU, RAM and PCIe lanes number doesn't matters for mining anyway :)
I would recommend 5970 instead of 6990 because it's almost twice as cheaper and in some cases may be faster (unless you have suitable drivers, OS and miner).
But if you want to sell it later, new card may be more suitable.

(note that PCI-X and PCIe are different things. But since PCI-X is very rare now it's not an issue :)

Thanks for your support :)

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April 20, 2011, 10:56:36 PM
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Well, you just got another 1Gh/s added to your system Smiley I hate to say I'll only be mining on my main system for a few hours daily.

Anyway, so far it's looking like a fun, mildly competitive, and possibly profitable activity. I'm still a bit confused on exactly how I'm paid and how much, but I'll just run the miner as much as possible, and see what happens in a few days/weeks. In the mean time, what's the most efficient CUDA/OpenCL miner? I'm running a NVIDIA GTX 470 and right now the poclbm OpenCL miner seems to be doing a bit better than the RPC-CUDA miner I started with. I'm new to this, and the only experience I have with distributed computing is rainbow-tables and folding@home (I was/am rather active in the latter's community). Anyway, thanks for making a great system, and this is sort of my thanks to deepbit/intro to this forum.

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April 20, 2011, 11:11:34 PM
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Anyway, so far it's looking like a fun, mildly competitive, and possibly profitable activity. I'm still a bit confused on exactly how I'm paid and how much, but I'll just run the miner as much as possible, and see what happens in a few days/weeks. In the mean time, what's the most efficient CUDA/OpenCL miner? I'm running a NVIDIA GTX 470 and right now the poclbm OpenCL miner seems to be doing a bit better than the RPC-CUDA miner I started with. I'm new to this, and the only experience I have with distributed computing is rainbow-tables and folding@home (I was/am rather active in the latter's community). Anyway, thanks for making a great system, and this is sort of my thanks to deepbit/intro to this forum.
Thanks :)

Yes, this activity is profitable (with ATI GPU).
Useful GPU comparison page: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
You will earn ~0.86 BTC per day or ~0.035 BTC per hour on average when mining at 81.5 MH/s.

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April 20, 2011, 11:31:34 PM
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It seems that all our luck has gone in the past difficulty change. Long blocks  is common now. At least at night time(here in Spain gmt +2) it seems we have more luck than day time.
Is someone calling to teeth fairty to help us minning while we sleep?? Or it's only some kind of ghost giving us a lot of bad luck during day? Lol, it should be the bit-ghost, who play with our graphic cards doing they work without sense.  Cheesy
Well, all of us should had a rabbit leg above the case or the monitor, it will be good for all.
(Yes, if someone is thinking about... I was a little bit bored and thought about our lately bad luck  Tongue)

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April 21, 2011, 12:16:37 AM
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Not sure how feasible it would be, but I was wondering if it would be possible to implement a function that resets the counters when an automatic payout is triggered and also show a table for historical purposes. I have an automatic payment level set, so I can already see from historical payouts what kind of timeframe it took me to hit that. My idea is to be able to see how many shares I contributed in that timeframe.

EDIT: Or to just add up all shares between payouts and show that as a separate column next to the payout in the same timeframe, then the counters wouldn't need to be reset.

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April 21, 2011, 01:58:43 AM
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It seems that all our luck has gone in the past difficulty change. Long blocks  is common now. At least at night time(here in Spain gmt +2) it seems we have more luck than day time.
Is someone calling to teeth fairty to help us minning while we sleep?? Or it's only some kind of ghost giving us a lot of bad luck during day? Lol, it should be the bit-ghost, who play with our graphic cards doing they work without sense.  Cheesy
Well, all of us should had a rabbit leg above the case or the monitor, it will be good for all.
(Yes, if someone is thinking about... I was a little bit bored and thought about our lately bad luck  Tongue)

I noticed our luck has been horrible, but it has to go both ways so =/

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April 21, 2011, 02:47:33 AM
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I do like the feature that slush offers of being able to see the unconfirmed payout.
That's because all balance is always "confirmed" in deepbit Smiley

Maybe when I fix my older computer I can get another GPU online for mining Smiley  It is over four years old (Core2 Q6600, 5GB DDR2-800 RAM with PCIx x16) but will take an 6990 or a 6970 if I want
Core2 is not old, but CPU, RAM and PCIe lanes number doesn't matters for mining anyway Smiley
I would recommend 5970 instead of 6990 because it's almost twice as cheaper and in some cases may be faster (unless you have suitable drivers, OS and miner).
But if you want to sell it later, new card may be more suitable.

(note that PCI-X and PCIe are different things. But since PCI-X is very rare now it's not an issue Smiley

Thanks for your support Smiley

I was not able to find the 5970 ANYWHERE for cheaper except as used EBay hardware.  The item seems quite rare.  I saw a few listed as new on EBay and one was over $1000 which is of course absurd.  Since most are used and highly prized for this use, I worry that it was not taken care of and flakes out at high use; so only new high end video cards for me when it comes to ATI/AMD GPUs.  My NVidia 570GTX OC was nearly a match for the 6970 on the graphics side, but not the bitcoin side. 

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April 21, 2011, 02:50:44 AM
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I was not able to find the 5970 ANYWHERE for cheaper except as used EBay hardware.  The item seems quite rare.  I saw a few listed as new on EBay and one was over $1000 which is of course absurd.  Since most are used and highly prized for this use, I worry that it was not taken care of and flakes out at high use; so only new high end video cards for me when it comes to ATI/AMD GPUs.  My NVidia 570GTX OC was nearly a match for the 6970 on the graphics side, but not the bitcoin side. 
I was talking about used ones, of course.
Not sure about eBay, here they are sold for ~$350.

Ok, then you can try your luck with 6990 :)

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April 21, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
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EDIT: Or to just add up all shares between payouts and show that as a separate column next to the payout in the same timeframe, then the counters wouldn't need to be reset.
That's easy to implement. I'll think about it today :)
Thanks.

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April 21, 2011, 02:58:07 AM
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I was talking about used ones, of course.
Not sure about eBay, here they are sold for ~$350.

Ok, then you can try your luck with 6990 Smiley

Not me ... I can't afford one [ok, I can, but I don't want to spend that much on one] and it won't fit in my case.  IF decide to get my old machine running again [instead of auctioning the parts], I might consider looking for a used 5970 if it comes from a reputable person here who doesn't run it at high temp (but how do I know?).

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April 21, 2011, 04:50:55 AM
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I just started using your service, and I am new to mining. I got the poclbm-gui running, says its connected to deepbit.net. I've been running for about a half hour and it shows 0 shares accepted and my average speed is still 0. is there something wrong? Im running a 4850 on windows 7 64 bit, installed stream sdk and all

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April 21, 2011, 05:00:38 AM
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I just started using your service, and I am new to mining. I got the poclbm-gui running, says its connected to deepbit.net. I've been running for about a half hour and it shows 0 shares accepted and my average speed is still 0. is there something wrong? Im running a 4850 on windows 7 64 bit, installed stream sdk and all

Does the GUI say you are getting any hashes?

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