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May 06, 2011, 05:38:06 AM
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Hi. Is there a limit on 20 workers? I Can not create more!? I read in this thread that I can use up to 10 clients on one worker? Is that fact up 2 date?
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May 06, 2011, 05:47:38 AM
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IDK if your willing to answer this Tycho... but with fees and your own mining, what do you make in a day BTC wise?

I would love to see a Daily btc chart as im one of those people that uses my payouts to watch progress Tongue
I'm working on this, especially for PPS users Smiley
Also I would like to hear: should I count daily earnings between midnights on UTC or midnights on user's timezone ?
Second option may be more useful, but it will be more difficult to compare between users and may lead to wrong values if user changes his timezone.

By the way the stats page is updated, now it shows average time to find a block (at the bottom) and loads 6 times faster.

As for my own income, I can't give precise answer at this moment because i'm overinvesting in my little "mining farm". I'll post some pics and results later when it will be done.

Since its meant as a statistic UTC time is better IMHO.  BitcoinCharts calculates their daily periods of volume and price change using that time period.

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May 06, 2011, 06:07:01 AM
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Well I'm just one unlucky person.  I was slaving away coding my own pool this evening, after moving my miners to your pool about 14 hours ago Tycho.  And what do I see before going to sleep?

19:22:02, 20:12:37, and 20:18:36 (GMT -7) blocks were found by me.  That's right.  There were 4 blocks discovered by Deepbit.net between 19:22 and 20:22, and 3 of them were from my miners.  I bet if I finish making my own pool I'll never find one again!

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May 06, 2011, 06:12:52 AM
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Hi. Is there a limit on 20 workers? I Can not create more!? I read in this thread that I can use up to 10 clients on one worker? Is that fact up 2 date?
If you are using long polling, then the limit is 20 miners per one worker account and 20 worker accounts per one user.
But this limit is only to detect LP malfunction so if you need more, PM me with desired number and reason - it's easy to add.

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May 06, 2011, 06:15:58 AM
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19:22:02, 20:12:37, and 20:18:36 (GMT -7) blocks were found by me.  That's right.
Thanks :)

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May 06, 2011, 08:01:45 AM
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Tycho, could it be posible to reset workers' shares counters individualy?? I'm testing differents cards at different speed and there is some workers I don't want to reset its stats. I hope it will be possible.
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May 06, 2011, 08:17:45 AM
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Tycho, could it be posible to reset workers' shares counters individualy?? I'm testing differents cards at different speed and there is some workers I don't want to reset its stats. I hope it will be possible.
There is already individual reset button on each worker's page.

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May 06, 2011, 08:19:42 AM
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Oh, I hadn't seen it, sorry.  Cheesy

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May 06, 2011, 08:30:33 PM
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Suddently started getting lots of "Long poll exceptions...", "long poll: deepbit is temporarily unavailable" and new thing now: "long poll: backend error"

Using latest m0mchil's miner.


Seems like ~90% of the latest ~10 blocks, makes long poll error.

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May 06, 2011, 10:43:43 PM
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Suddently started getting lots of "Long poll exceptions...", "long poll: deepbit is temporarily unavailable" and new thing now: "long poll: backend error"

Seems like ~90% of the latest ~10 blocks, makes long poll error.
Long Polling was reset a few times by me recently because of updates, don't worry - this will not affect your mining.

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May 06, 2011, 10:52:45 PM
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Suddently started getting lots of "Long poll exceptions...", "long poll: deepbit is temporarily unavailable" and new thing now: "long poll: backend error"

Seems like ~90% of the latest ~10 blocks, makes long poll error.
Long Polling was reset a few times by me recently because of updates, don't worry - this will not affect your mining.

Doesn't it potentially increase the number of stale shares; especially if he is seeing this at a rate of 10% of all queries?

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May 06, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
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Long Polling was reset a few times by me recently because of updates, don't worry - this will not affect your mining.
Doesn't it potentially increase the number of stale shares; especially if he is seeing this at a rate of 10% of all queries?
No, it was for a very short time, so the number of stales would be negligible.

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May 06, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
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Long Polling was reset a few times by me recently because of updates, don't worry - this will not affect your mining.
Doesn't it potentially increase the number of stale shares; especially if he is seeing this at a rate of 10% of all queries?
No, it was for a very short time, so the number of stales would be negligible.

Well, whatever you have been doing seems to be working.  Pretty soon "Other" is going to be trying to catch up with you on the network hash rate pie chart.   Shocked

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May 07, 2011, 12:18:05 AM
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Holy Moly! 380! last time i looked it was 290!, Who turned on another MM, Actually hell, I dont care solong as the MM is ina pool LOL

Tycho, Im about to get 1.5ghashes, Please with your honest opinion, What would give SEEMINGLY MORE income Seeing as how All my calculations are wrong with the 90ghash just that i didnt notice, And now i dont think i'll beable to go solo, But with this HUGE ghash pool jump i dont know if it'll be worth it to go in a pool (24/7)

Forget about the 3%

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May 07, 2011, 12:22:48 AM
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Tycho, Im about to get 1.5ghashes, Please with your honest opinion, What would give SEEMINGLY MORE income
Are you talking about choosing between PPS or Proportional ?

But with this HUGE ghash pool jump i dont know if it'll be worth it to go in a pool (24/7)
Of course you should mine in a pool. Especially considering the oncoming difficulty jump :)

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May 07, 2011, 12:31:41 AM
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Tycho, Im about to get 1.5ghashes, Please with your honest opinion, What would give SEEMINGLY MORE income
Are you talking about choosing between PPS or Proportional ?

But with this HUGE ghash pool jump i dont know if it'll be worth it to go in a pool (24/7)
Of course you should mine in a pool. Especially considering the oncoming difficulty jump Smiley

Yeah...it's going to chafe in a serious way.

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May 07, 2011, 12:37:27 AM
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Is Tycho an unbiased person to ask?  No offense Tycho, but you get 3% of his massive input which is quite considerable.  Also, to be honest, I am getting nervous about the size of the pool.  Tycho has already said he is investing in mining hardware with his earnings.  There is a lot of potential for corruption.  I don't believe that Tycho would do this, but having such a large pool and still growing is getting scarry, especially since it is rapidly approaching that fearful 51% scarey.

I am not trying to discourage people to use deepbit, just from allowing it to overcome the bitcoin market.

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May 07, 2011, 12:41:35 AM
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Is Tycho an unbiased person to ask?  No offense Tycho, but you get 3% of his massive input which is quite considerable.  Also, to be honest, I am getting nervous about the size of the pool.  Tycho has already said he is investing in mining hardware with his earnings.  There is a lot of potential for corruption.  I don't believe that Tycho would do this, but having such a large pool and still growing is getting scarry, especially since it is rapidly approaching that fearful 51% scarey.

I am not trying to discourage people to use deepbit, just from allowing it to overcome the bitcoin market.

Tycho's already said that he doesn't plan on taking more than half of the total Bitcoin network over (though I don't know how he plans to mitigate that)...if it gets close, no offense to Tycho, but I should be moving on. It's all about the security of the network.

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May 07, 2011, 12:46:53 AM
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I don't believe that Tycho would do this, but having such a large pool and still growing is getting scarry, especially since it is rapidly approaching that fearful 51% scarey.
Actually there is still a VERY long way to 50% considering that deepbit is not the only pool that grows rapidly.

I'm going to talk with someone like Gavin about considering additional steps towards transprency, so people will know that my pools is not doing anything bad.

Is Tycho an unbiased person to ask?  No offense Tycho, but you get 3% of his massive input which is quite considerable.
3% at this speed is only like having 11 GH/s farm. Even ArtForz doing more, but if farm owner does something wrong he can continue mining, and if pool's owner does something to harm the network, he will lose his income. So being honest is better than trying to steal once.

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May 07, 2011, 12:53:24 AM
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I don't believe that Tycho would do this, but having such a large pool and still growing is getting scarry, especially since it is rapidly approaching that fearful 51% scarey.
Actually there is still a VERY long way to 50% considering that deepbit is not the only pool that grows rapidly.

I am not sure that I agree; especially with people offering to bring GH/s hardware online with your pool.  I think you hit nearly 40% today, although we know much of that could be due to variance, however the pool hash rate has grown massively in just the last week and only slush competes significantly and he doesn't appear to have the time or resources to take his pool to the next level.  Perhaps many small pools or a couple growing medium size pools (relatively) would help alleviate the apprehension.

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