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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1452811 times)
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April 30, 2011, 07:12:03 AM
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-50% !!!!!
this shows that the difficulty of the pool is 50% lower than the general difficulty Wink

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April 30, 2011, 07:18:54 AM
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deepbit has hit the motherlode  Cool

on the new difficulty too ... how long can this last i wonder?

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April 30, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
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Can someone explain what is going on here? Where are all my shares going? The whole time I been producing at 660 MH/S!!

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April 30, 2011, 07:52:31 AM
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Can someone explain what is going on here? Where are all my shares going? The whole time I been producing at 660 MH/S!!


Why was my last payout so low? I paused my client for ~5 minutes to reboot, I change a flag -w to test it out for a few hours, realtime MH/s wasn't different... I changed it back about 20 minutes ago

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April 30, 2011, 07:58:07 AM
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Can someone explain what is going on here? Where are all my shares going? The whole time I been producing at 660 MH/S!!


Why was my last payout so low? I paused my client for ~5 minutes to reboot, I change a flag -w to test it out for a few hours, realtime MH/s wasn't different... I changed it back about 20 minutes ago

It was a really short round and you only got a few of the shares that were submitted ... the very short rounds it is a crap shoot who gets the most shares in and doesn't have time to even out to reflect average hashrates .... if you hang around for enough short rounds it will even out when totalled over all of them.

Next time just hope the short round are all your shares going in ... !

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April 30, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
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Why was my last payout so low? I paused my client for ~5 minutes to reboot, I change a flag -w to test it out for a few hours, realtime MH/s wasn't different... I changed it back about 20 minutes ago
That was a very short block - it took only a few seconds to solve, so your chances to send a share in exact those seconds aren't 100%
It's normal.

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April 30, 2011, 08:06:19 AM
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Okay so just bad timing? lol damn.

Welp. What's the production difference in the long run between using larger/smaller work sizes? I tried 64 for a few hours, the Mh/s was peaking higher at 340Mh/s per mining client, but it would wildly swing from 340, 330, down to 325... using 128 seems more stable as it holds steady at 324-330, staying at 330 most often.

I tried 256 and it seemed slower at 329...

Anyhow, Thanks for fast replies

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April 30, 2011, 10:43:29 AM
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We are officially the biggest pool Cheesy

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April 30, 2011, 03:25:48 PM
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Thanks to [Tycho] for all his hard work!  Grin  I just joined the pool a few days go with my lowly Macbook Pro, but I go back to work today and will add my iMac and my co-lo boxes to the effort. I just started learning coding with the REALStudio suite, and am considering writing a cross platform GUI as a project. Unfortunately, Mac's seem to be low man on the Bitcoin mining totem pole, I need to dig further in the forums to find out what specifically is the issue. I'm wondering if running this hardware with Linux instead of OS X would make a difference?
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April 30, 2011, 04:18:41 PM
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Thanks to [Tycho] for all his hard work!  Grin  I just joined the pool a few days go with my lowly Macbook Pro, but I go back to work today and will add my iMac and my co-lo boxes to the effort. I just started learning coding with the REALStudio suite, and am considering writing a cross platform GUI as a project. Unfortunately, Mac's seem to be low man on the Bitcoin mining totem pole, I need to dig further in the forums to find out what specifically is the issue. I'm wondering if running this hardware with Linux instead of OS X would make a difference?
The problem is probably shitty hardware, really. Macs never, ever came with great GPUs, which is what you need to excel.

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April 30, 2011, 07:03:14 PM
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your pool luck is really, really sucking right now ... +35%.
I thought you said somewhere that it can't get worse than +15%?
Is it time to consider that someone is performing the "hide the golden ticket" attack on your pool?
In theory it can be better or worse to any extent.
I'm constantly monitoring all stats and everything is running as it should.
Do you know that such attacker would need to have 35% of pool speed to do this ? That's 70 GH/s, even ArtForz can't do this yet Smiley The fastest users are crunching at only 2.5% of pool's speed, and there aren't many of them. I don't think that 30+ top users can cooperate in such anti-pool effort and lose their 35% (25 GH/s) too.

Cost of such attack thus would be $700 per day not to mention enormous hardware resources.

So let's crunch trought this to the brilliant future Smiley

Yes, and at which point they may as well form a small pool and mine amongst themselves ... or am I missing something?

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April 30, 2011, 11:03:49 PM
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It'd be even better if there was a way to get rid of it completely. The placement and size are annoying as heck!
I knew that everyone will like it :)
Now you can disable it in advanced settings.

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April 30, 2011, 11:29:31 PM
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We are officially the biggest pool Cheesy

 Wink  Although it does vary from day to day or even hour to hour as the block size variances creep in.  It almost seems as if when slush is big, then deepbit is smaller and the opposite holds true.  I think one of the other pools will probably break out soon as well as more people look for what makes them happiest.  Ideally, I think 3-5 competing pools of comparable sizes is good for mining and also reduces the likelihood of attack [although I trust Slush and Tycho implicitly and it would take corruption or cracking and hacking to divert their pools].  Now, based pure hash rate or number of members .... well, even that changes too, but both are seeing massive increases.

I am anxious to see what Slush comes up with next when he gets time [i.e. long polling, additional interesting statistics, etc.].  BTW, long polling reduces the load on the pool server and reduces stale shares, so it is in his interest to implement it, so I expect that will be coming before long.

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May 01, 2011, 01:41:44 AM
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It'd be even better if there was a way to get rid of it completely. The placement and size are annoying as heck!
I knew that everyone will like it Smiley
Now you can disable it in advanced settings.
Thank you! Cheesy
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May 01, 2011, 01:44:20 AM
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Seen any botnet activity on your pool?
BTCmine says they have seen some
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4251.msg61724#msg61724

might pay to watch out.

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May 01, 2011, 02:04:30 AM
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Seen any botnet activity on your pool?
I have no reasons to suspect my users of illegal activity yet.

...says they have seen some
might pay to watch out.
That's a very strange decision.
Of course i'm not going to close registration, new users are welcome :)

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May 01, 2011, 04:35:10 AM
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What exactly is "botnet" illegal activity?  Something to do with IRC?  How would this affect the pool?

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May 01, 2011, 04:43:10 AM
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What exactly is "botnet" illegal activity?  Something to do with IRC?  How would this affect the pool?

I think botnet to flood pool, so pool can't operate & goes down.
If pool goes down, then only option is solo mining & those with Ghash/s computer network only gets all coins.
All other forced to BUY instead of mining.
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May 01, 2011, 05:09:24 AM
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The argument is that it is unethical for a pool operator to allow a botnet to be connected to the pool so that stolen CPU time can make money on their pool.

It would be pretty obvious if there were accounts with thousands of workers submitting sub-CPU level hashrates.

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May 01, 2011, 06:47:29 AM
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The main arguments is:
1) I'm do not want lost my servers and break good relations with my hosting.
2) I'm not need investigations (or actions) from FBI or similar gov. organizations

Abuses for such botnet activities - only matter a time.
BTC prices too high now, black market morons (or just stupid persons) start use this.

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