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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal?
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June 28, 2014, 07:21:13 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? But they haven't released anything Sx related right? I bet they are simply claiming to be first but then waiting for Vertcoin to release the code so that they can start copying wholesale. The only thing I notice going for them is the Electrum Beta.
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June 28, 2014, 07:22:21 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? But they haven't released anything Sx related right? I bet they are simply claiming to be first but then waiting for Vertcoin to release the code so that they can start copying wholesale. The only thing I notice going for them is the Electrum Beta. they say that they already have sx in the main net
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June 28, 2014, 07:36:09 PM |
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Let's me say this, Our current situation is not many people in Bitcointalk or Altcoin world know we are working on Stealth Address, and gonna be released soon ( end of this month ). That's the problem because finally we gonna open source, and then other coins will copy our code without giving credit or change name from Stealth Address to StealthSend or whatever name. At that time, investors will think those coins have active devs, and short time implementing the feature. As a result, Vertcoin value will decrease although we released the new features first.
So, after you reading, please help us doing whatever you can to help other people know we are the first coin who implement Stealth Address, and how good is it when comparing with other coins. I think it is only way to increase Vertcoin value, and attract future investors.
Thanks, bushido
ouch... that sounds bad... really bad ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) the bad thing is that exe coin is simply copying everything and posting on twitter. Yeah, look at this shit: http://cryptocoinchronicle.com/2014/06/execoin-innovates-plus-giveaway/ ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) well i posted my comment on there but i guess it has to wait for moderation but incase in dont make it this is what i posted maybe will get answer lol? tristanskiever says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. June 28, 2014 at 2:33 pm so are EXE and VTC developers the same or part of sme team? I am just confussed as to how whenever something changes for Vertcoin VTC the same change with like a 5-10% difference comes out for EXE coin ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 28, 2014, 07:38:15 PM |
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Anyone else not recieving payments from greenpool?
Balance: 0.0790347 VTC - hasn't changed for the last couple of hours.
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Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 02:27:56 0.530601 02:18:13
Same here. Im still mining there, believing that I'm doing some good to VTC. But payments are rare and I'm receiving half of what I was supposed to. Does anyone know who is the pool owner? pool owner is jamesl22 on reddit and freenode #greenpool. Payouts are working fine for me. Usually each round is a few hours, so you won't see your balance update for a good long while sometimes.
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June 28, 2014, 07:51:03 PM |
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Anyone else not recieving payments from greenpool?
Balance: 0.0790347 VTC - hasn't changed for the last couple of hours.
Last payment:
Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 02:27:56 0.530601 02:18:13
Same here. Im still mining there, believing that I'm doing some good to VTC. But payments are rare and I'm receiving half of what I was supposed to. Does anyone know who is the pool owner? pool owner is jamesl22 on reddit and freenode #greenpool. Payouts are working fine for me. Usually each round is a few hours, so you won't see your balance update for a good long while sometimes. Thanks. Mining with 18Mh/s. Got this payouts: Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 11:26:25 1.30772 08:28:20 28/06/2014 00:09:43 0.6574 03:21:22 27/06/2014 15:46:28 1.64188 02:04:06 27/06/2014 10:54:00 0.503792 01:01:29 27/06/2014 05:04:44 1.61177 00:30:09 27/06/2014 01:59:44 0.637663 00:15:03 26/06/2014 22:34:01 0.748162 00:30:07 26/06/2014 18:43:39 1.08529 02:34:07 26/06/2014 13:42:25 1.10717 00:15:01 Its a lot less then I would get mining VTC. What do you think?
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Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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June 28, 2014, 08:05:48 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now.
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June 28, 2014, 08:17:10 PM |
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Anyone else not recieving payments from greenpool?
Balance: 0.0790347 VTC - hasn't changed for the last couple of hours.
Last payment:
Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 02:27:56 0.530601 02:18:13
Same here. Im still mining there, believing that I'm doing some good to VTC. But payments are rare and I'm receiving half of what I was supposed to. Does anyone know who is the pool owner? pool owner is jamesl22 on reddit and freenode #greenpool. Payouts are working fine for me. Usually each round is a few hours, so you won't see your balance update for a good long while sometimes. Thanks. Mining with 18Mh/s. Got this payouts: Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 11:26:25 1.30772 08:28:20 28/06/2014 00:09:43 0.6574 03:21:22 27/06/2014 15:46:28 1.64188 02:04:06 27/06/2014 10:54:00 0.503792 01:01:29 27/06/2014 05:04:44 1.61177 00:30:09 27/06/2014 01:59:44 0.637663 00:15:03 26/06/2014 22:34:01 0.748162 00:30:07 26/06/2014 18:43:39 1.08529 02:34:07 26/06/2014 13:42:25 1.10717 00:15:01 Its a lot less then I would get mining VTC. What do you think? I think that's probably the case. I'm only mining on x11 pool with my nvidia 750 ti. All my rigs (with amd gpus) still just mining vtc (and mon and plx) directly.
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June 28, 2014, 08:22:30 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now. +1
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June 28, 2014, 08:29:27 PM |
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I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now.
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June 28, 2014, 08:34:52 PM |
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I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now.
+1Meh, I sold all my darkcoin at 0.01 because it was announced they would keep it closed source for the foreseeable future. I'd probably do the same for vert. That's not something I want to support.
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June 28, 2014, 08:42:49 PM Last edit: June 28, 2014, 08:59:54 PM by fukukami |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? But they haven't released anything Sx related right? I bet they are simply claiming to be first but then waiting for Vertcoin to release the code so that they can start copying wholesale. The only thing I notice going for them is the Electrum Beta. they say that they already have sx in the main net As execoin dev I feel like I should say, that execoin made no claim it would be the first alt to implement stealthes. The reality is that MON have already released stealth in mainnet, and it was inevitable after the long path of testing they took. I'm not even claiming that EXE would release stealth support before VERT. There is a commit in execoin repository with essential updates allowing relaying stealth transactions in the network - OP_RETURN support. github.com/execoin/execoin/commit/5ecb79bb677f14ae698f97c32761c591a3bc0fc5 It has been commited 5 days ago.And yes, we already have a number of stealth transactions in mainnet made by devs. You can see one of them by querying transaction with hash 0499732cacc82d80ef5ea06565e4d3464b54a4135b9130667dcf35766077fe97. It has been sent around three days ago. We have no gui right now, so it's just a dev toy, and saying that we are first in mainnet is senseless. I also would like to note that execoin is going with absolutely alternative implementations in python and electrum, so it will be 100% different. That's why, even being open source fan, I absolutely support Vertcoin release as proprietary closed-source qt client to defend it from copypasting. We are going completely another way. In our implementation of stealth addresses feature there will be no single common line of code with Vertcoin. The only common thing is a whole concept of stealth addresses and this idea was invented neither by Vertcoin nor by Execoin devs, but by darkwallet team. I'm not here to support a holywar, Vertcoin is a coin with a great potential and strong community. Execoin has its own niche in the market too, and is ready to provide its own innovations. And as long as development will be over, we will opensource our code. Thanks for your attention.
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Lucky - Luciano
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June 28, 2014, 09:03:52 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now. I would agree with you. All the innovation will protect because it the many fraud coin ruin good coin.
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June 28, 2014, 09:13:55 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now. +1But as you said, " Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin" We've been the first non-ASIC non-Multipool Coin, with great community behind It and increasing the marketing campaigns so devs have to consider this option ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 28, 2014, 09:16:08 PM |
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tell us... how can you defend your developments and innovations from the takeover by exe? it is hard to understand how did it first. exe coin devs claim to be the first in this place... so what is the deal? I think temporary closed-source is something darkcoin did right. We should do this too. Only until it's widely accepted that we were the first stealth coin - then open it up. It would be far too easy for someone to steal our thunder right now. I would agree with you. All the innovation will protect because it the many fraud coin ruin good coin. agreed too. I'll talk about stealth addresses in the french VTC thread tomorrow ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 28, 2014, 09:43:10 PM |
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Anyone else not recieving payments from greenpool?
Balance: 0.0790347 VTC - hasn't changed for the last couple of hours.
Last payment:
Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 02:27:56 0.530601 02:18:13
Same here. Im still mining there, believing that I'm doing some good to VTC. But payments are rare and I'm receiving half of what I was supposed to. Does anyone know who is the pool owner? pool owner is jamesl22 on reddit and freenode #greenpool. Payouts are working fine for me. Usually each round is a few hours, so you won't see your balance update for a good long while sometimes. Thanks. Mining with 18Mh/s. Got this payouts: Recent Payouts Date/Time Amount (VTC) Round Length 28/06/2014 11:26:25 1.30772 08:28:20 28/06/2014 00:09:43 0.6574 03:21:22 27/06/2014 15:46:28 1.64188 02:04:06 27/06/2014 10:54:00 0.503792 01:01:29 27/06/2014 05:04:44 1.61177 00:30:09 27/06/2014 01:59:44 0.637663 00:15:03 26/06/2014 22:34:01 0.748162 00:30:07 26/06/2014 18:43:39 1.08529 02:34:07 26/06/2014 13:42:25 1.10717 00:15:01 Its a lot less then I would get mining VTC. What do you think? I think it's a little .I'm thinking about going back to mining vertcoin directly. Also,I have a little earning.
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June 28, 2014, 09:58:11 PM |
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And why don't you mine on Give-me-coins or Simplevert? Very easy-intuitive mining pools with great hashrate. They pay, of course... verified. When I mine I always use one of those pools ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 28, 2014, 11:07:44 PM Last edit: June 28, 2014, 11:24:08 PM by mega |
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Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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June 28, 2014, 11:09:52 PM |
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And why don't you mine on Give-me-coins or Simplevert? Very easy-intuitive mining pools with great hashrate. They pay, of course... verified. When I mine I always use one of those pools ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) give-me-coins has a lot of hashrate mining vertcoin. We better not mine there ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) P2Pool FTW! Edit: give-me-coins as 8% of hashrate, simplevert as 22%. Combined, this two pools got 30% of global hashrate. This could harm the coin (51% attack) if they keep getting higher hashrates. http://www.verters.com/block-analysis
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Got my account back! It was hacked. Sorry about it :|
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