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March 04, 2014, 03:08:30 PM |
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Maybe I've missed it, but is Bitmain also lowering the value of the package (customs-wise) when their price in BTC goes down?
I mean, paying €140 for a miner which costs BTC1.45 or paying €140 for a miner which costs less than BTC1 is quite a difference.
Current BTC Price 1.16 = 604.03 Euro - then you pay VAT So Bitmain declares $250USD - 181 Euro BTC Price is now rising again it was actually cheaper a few days ago when Bitmain had higher price as to correct me if I'm wrong the actual price has gone up for what you are paying for per ant and now the EU fee so its more expensive. It may look cheaper as they lower the prices but you need to take into account BTC price has risen 20% over night |
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miropp
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March 04, 2014, 03:12:33 PM |
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I paid 102.55 VAT plus an admin fee of 11 when buying a miner at 1.45BTC. BTC exchange rate at the time was roughly £375 so the VAT is very close to 20% of this value.
Bitmain declared on last invoice for me 800USD/1Unit (ordered 2 units) and UPS now want from me al lot of papers (unlike past), holding shipment in their office and it seems that I will have to pay high VAT and customs charges  But on bitmaintech web site there is promise "The Declaration For The Customs: Reasonable Value Declaration is for EU customers." So I dont understand... |
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aztecminer
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March 04, 2014, 03:16:50 PM |
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i found coupons in my account ..
hopefully i will decide to use them soon ..
i dont want to spend my mined coins though hahaha ..
the three recent i bought was with fiat thru coinbase ..
i will figure out what i doing soon ..
maybe S2 will drop soon and I will be ready for them ..
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Jeffrey
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March 04, 2014, 03:48:17 PM |
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i found coupons in my account ..
hopefully i will decide to use them soon ..
i dont want to spend my mined coins though hahaha ..
the three recent i bought was with fiat thru coinbase ..
i will figure out what i doing soon ..
maybe S2 will drop soon and I will be ready for them ..
don't forget .. you can only .. use 1 coupon .. per ordered product .. by the way .. whats up with the dots .. ?? .. |
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March 04, 2014, 03:51:51 PM |
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whats up with the dots ..
?? ..
it's not his fault, those are his mice droppings  |
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vw412fan
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March 04, 2014, 04:23:46 PM |
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got my third new ant today .. Hi aztec, which Corsair RM supplies are you using? I have four block erupter cubes happily hashing on an RM1000 (3 normal, 1 oc'd). Just curious. Cheers,  rm1000 and rm850 atm .. i am going to buy more rm1000's soon .. Overclocked on the rm1000 ? If so, two on each rm1000 ? Thanks again! --vw |
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aztecminer
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March 04, 2014, 04:36:56 PM |
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got my third new ant today .. Hi aztec, which Corsair RM supplies are you using? I have four block erupter cubes happily hashing on an RM1000 (3 normal, 1 oc'd). Just curious. Cheers, rm1000 and rm850 atm .. i am going to buy more rm1000's soon .. Overclocked on the rm1000 ? If so, two on each rm1000 ? Thanks again! --vw yes .. works well.. i am too busy atm to troubleshoot the ax1200i platinum psu so i am putting it into a new pc build i building atm and only using rm1000's for mining now . |
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s1lverbox
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March 04, 2014, 04:42:01 PM |
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talking about customs, at this moment is not wise to buy anything for this crazy rates. btc is going up so maybe roi will be closer than ever. but it's fools game. to keep mining at decent rate u have to buy more miners.
until something big will appear in sight there is no hope for profit at this moment.
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Bitkoinzz
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March 04, 2014, 06:12:05 PM |
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talking about customs, at this moment is not wise to buy anything for this crazy rates. btc is going up so maybe roi will be closer than ever. but it's fools game. to keep mining at decent rate u have to buy more miners.
until something big will appear in sight there is no hope for profit at this moment.
No hope for profit? hahaha. mmmm k Anyone can profit using these Antminers, especially if you are mining to get the BTC to buy the Antminers. Just to give an example, I spent $6000 us last month and have made $3200 back in BTC and cash from selling a couple machines. |
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Bitkoinzz
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March 04, 2014, 06:19:10 PM |
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Modifying typo
Antminer S1 currently mine at about 0.0227754 BTC per day without overclocking. (Current Difficulties: 3,815,723,799)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
I am getting much more than that overclocked at 204 gh average. Put it this way, if I have 5 antminers all over clocked and running cool I will make .187 a day. I am in a very good pool. |
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wpgdeez
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March 04, 2014, 06:25:01 PM |
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What pool are you in because I am averaging .15 on the Guild.
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Bitkoinzz
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March 04, 2014, 06:31:22 PM |
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Eclipse.They average 3.13 blocks a day. I run at DGM , sometimes PPS if I need coins quick but DGM pays a little more. I have tried BTC Guild. Elgius, Slush, and Eclipse
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iglasses
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March 04, 2014, 06:35:58 PM |
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I just paid 1.18 BTC for an antminer and am very confident I can make a profit from it by mining with it OR selling it.
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I only have a signature because I'm allowed.
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MrTeal
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March 04, 2014, 06:37:50 PM |
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Modifying typo
Antminer S1 currently mine at about 0.0227754 BTC per day without overclocking. (Current Difficulties: 3,815,723,799)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
I am getting much more than that overclocked at 204 gh average. Put it this way, if I have 5 antminers all over clocked and running cool I will make .187 a day. I am in a very good pool. That is about 40% more than PPS rates, so it isn't sustainable. There's nothing special Eclipse is doing, they just got lucky. |
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Bitkoinzz
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March 04, 2014, 07:12:36 PM |
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I just paid 1.18 BTC for an antminer and am very confident I can make a profit from it by mining with it OR selling it.
Absolutely. The price in BTC for these machines is very good. You can't get this much GH anywhere else for this amount of BTC unless you are buying a giant machine |
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s1lverbox
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March 04, 2014, 09:37:32 PM |
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talking about customs, at this moment is not wise to buy anything for this crazy rates. btc is going up so maybe roi will be closer than ever. but it's fools game. to keep mining at decent rate u have to buy more miners.
until something big will appear in sight there is no hope for profit at this moment.
No hope for profit? hahaha. mmmm k Anyone can profit using these Antminers, especially if you are mining to get the BTC to buy the Antminers. Just to give an example, I spent $6000 us last month and have made $3200 back in BTC and cash from selling a couple machines. Read what i wrote. I did mention at this time if you buy antminer with all customs, there is no hope to make money by mining. I didnt mention anything about resseling this stuff. |
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Bitkoinzz
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March 04, 2014, 10:00:22 PM |
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talking about customs, at this moment is not wise to buy anything for this crazy rates. btc is going up so maybe roi will be closer than ever. but it's fools game. to keep mining at decent rate u have to buy more miners.
until something big will appear in sight there is no hope for profit at this moment.
No hope for profit? hahaha. mmmm k Anyone can profit using these Antminers, especially if you are mining to get the BTC to buy the Antminers. Just to give an example, I spent $6000 us last month and have made $3200 back in BTC and cash from selling a couple machines. Read what i wrote. I did mention at this time if you buy antminer with all customs, there is no hope to make money by mining. I didnt mention anything about resseling this stuff. Yes I understand what you are saying. It the customs issue only in Europe? |
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s1lverbox
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March 04, 2014, 10:27:33 PM |
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talking about customs, at this moment is not wise to buy anything for this crazy rates. btc is going up so maybe roi will be closer than ever. but it's fools game. to keep mining at decent rate u have to buy more miners.
until something big will appear in sight there is no hope for profit at this moment.
No hope for profit? hahaha. mmmm k Anyone can profit using these Antminers, especially if you are mining to get the BTC to buy the Antminers. Just to give an example, I spent $6000 us last month and have made $3200 back in BTC and cash from selling a couple machines. Read what i wrote. I did mention at this time if you buy antminer with all customs, there is no hope to make money by mining. I didnt mention anything about resseling this stuff. Yes I understand what you are saying. It the customs issue only in Europe? Seems like it. Us have no extra charge for computers etc. |
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wpgdeez
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March 04, 2014, 10:37:21 PM |
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Thank god we don't have anything like VAT in Canada! You guys get raped hard!
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PatMan
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March 05, 2014, 03:18:55 AM |
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When we closed the ordering system this afternoon, we issued coupons to the most recent customers, and adjusted the price to 1.18 BTC/unit. Happy mining everyone!
No coupon here.......  I noticed my order still hasn't shipped yet also (00120140303183033680lffn2NP6069A) - can you advise? Thanks. Time is money honey |
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