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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722504 times)
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April 06, 2016, 01:03:45 AM

I sent you a donation for all the good work you have done! Your dashman application alone has simplified my master node maintenance greatly. Ill check out your other programs as well.

Thank you BitWater! I appreciate it a lot! Very generous of you.

I'm glad you find my work useful, that means a lot to me, is why I do it.

I've got big plans for dashman 0.2 and should be free to work on it starting next month.  Maybe a summer release.

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April 06, 2016, 06:18:19 AM

Wow...my first ever post on this thread...all the way back on page 1688!

I like my first post on page 524:

It took me 2 month to see that this is a coin that I should mine. :/
 Am I too late now?



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April 06, 2016, 08:06:07 AM

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Moo, regarding cold storage - do you have any advice regarding the topic? Where, how, launching etc
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April 06, 2016, 09:22:55 AM
Last edit: April 06, 2016, 09:36:42 AM by moocowmoo

CUT

Moo, regarding cold storage - do you have any advice regarding the topic? Where, how, launching etc

Cold Storage 201 - a biased introduction

Paper wallets

Paper wallets use random user and machine input to create a set of keys/addresses which you then print.
You can never regenerate a paper wallet once you turn off the machine. What you print is all you get.
I don't like paper wallets because they can get damaged, lost, destroyed, or stolen.
Even if you encrypt them with bip38 (you should), a very bad person that finds them (robbery/home invasion) could check the balances and put a gun to your head for the password. see: https://xkcd.com/538/

That said, they are the most convenient and user-friendly way to store coin long term as long as you keep them safe.


BIP32

BIP32 is a way of generating any number of keys/addresses from a very carefully selected sentence.
I prefer this technique because I can always regenerate my keys, even in the event of a house fire.
It's a form of brain wallet, but can be done safely if you follow these instructions.
(Brain wallets got a bad reputation only because people were choosing short passwords and common phrases.)

The sentence you choose must be unique in the known universe and should be about 110 characters long.
It must not have appeared in any TV show, movie, book, song, play, poem, speech, essay, dissertation, or thesis.
If it has been published, you shouldn't use it, no matter how obscure the source.
Don't search the web for it.

I recommend making it from a personal memory.
Your control (or loss!) of your funds depend on you not forgetting your sentence.
Practice it over and over until you've got it down.  Do it every day for a month, then every week.

To prevent entry errors, use no capitals, punctuation or spaces.
For example:
anorangeandyellowbutterflylandedonmynosewheniwasfloatingdownastreaminblackmount ainnorthcarolinainthesummerof1986

Armed with that sentence, just follow the instructions on http://en.wiki.dashninja.pl/wiki/DIY_Deterministic_Addresses

You can generate one or ten keys and addresses, and copy only the addresses to a usb drive, then use them as drop boxes.
When you need to 'thaw' an address, just run through the process again, but write its key to a usb drive, import it into an online wallet and move the funds.


Generating your keys

Burn a live linux cd.  Doesn't matter what flavor, but Ubuntu 15.10 desktop will have the most drivers/is friendliest.

An actual CD is best for the highest security since it's a read-only mount.

I use a laptop for this, but that's just because I never turn off my desktop.

Boot from that cd, download/install your tools (or download them ahead of time to a usb drive).
(The ultra paranoid will complain about exposing the live-cd instance to the Internet, but once you disconnect you're fine.)
Disconnect from the internet, generate your keys/addresses/printouts, power off the machine.


Death plan

Whichever type of cold storage you choose, make a death plan. It will happen.
Write down your paper wallet password or bip32 pass-sentence for your loved ones.
Write instructions how to use it.
Keep them separate.


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April 06, 2016, 10:41:58 AM

Cold Storage 201 - A Biased Introduction (by moocowmoo)

https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/cold-storage-201--1711338767.html

#DashNation

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April 06, 2016, 01:51:29 PM

Cold Storage 201 - A Biased Introduction (by moocowmoo)

https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/cold-storage-201--1711338767.html

#DashNation

Great advice in that article. For the extra paranoid, you could generate a diceware passphrase for the seed. That way you know that it's completely random. People are really crappy at generating entropy, and it would be quite normal for the words "green" and "grass," for instance, to appear in the same passphrase if you just came up with a phrase off the top of your head.

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April 06, 2016, 01:57:02 PM

For the extra paranoid

<paranoid mode>
You can never be extra paranoid / too paranoid
</paranoid mode>

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April 06, 2016, 01:57:11 PM

ICEBREAKER, buddy, I still need your help. Please de-anonymize this transaction that was obscured by the "flawed CoinJoin implementation" that has "not been peer-reviewed" and help me to figure out the source address of these funds! The good news is that it only went through four rounds of this "DarkSend," so it will be orders of magnitude easier to figure out than if it had been through all eight. Thank goodness for small miracles!

Please help me figure this out! It's URGENT!!!

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.

Cheers!

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April 06, 2016, 02:39:12 PM

Dash is awesome.  How many masternodes are there right now?

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April 06, 2016, 02:41:31 PM
Last edit: April 06, 2016, 02:53:37 PM by aigeezer

For the extra paranoid

<paranoid mode>
You can never be extra paranoid / too paranoid
</paranoid mode>

Tongue

Edit: expanding my original cryptic post a bit. It's really hard to know when (not) to be paranoid. DASH is sooooo important, given what is known to be "out there", without even thinking about what else might (not) be "out there". For example:

True -

"Honey objects: How can we create fake resources that deceive adversaries"

http://www.arijuels.com/

Fiction/humour -

http://xkcd.com/1664/
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April 06, 2016, 02:55:55 PM



"Honey objects: How can we create fake resources that deceive adversaries"

http://www.arijuels.com/

Isn't he the guy that invented Proof of Work ?

Is he Satoshi ?
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Page 34  Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4965272#msg4965272

Was discussing cpu mining optimization, was mining with bunch of aws server ... I think I made like 2000 Dash with CPU mining. Good old time.
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April 06, 2016, 03:52:21 PM


Isn't he the guy that invented Proof of Work ?


"One of" at the very least. Lest people think you were kidding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system

Back to the paranoia meme for a moment - has he gone over to the dark side with his honey object research or - gulp - was he always on the dark side? No, not our Dark - "their" dark.        Shocked

My takeaway on this kind of stuff is always - build it all trustless. Doing it is mere implementation detail (meaning I have no clue about how to pull it off).

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Page 34  Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4965272#msg4965272

Was discussing cpu mining optimization, was mining with bunch of aws server ... I think I made like 2000 Dash with CPU mining. Good old time.

page 5957 Smiley

I was discussing my first post in this thread
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April 06, 2016, 04:30:36 PM


page 5957 Smiley

I was discussing my first post in this thread

lol
Better late than never Smiley
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April 06, 2016, 05:04:18 PM

Is there a whitepaper?

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April 06, 2016, 10:54:27 PM

Hello Everyone,

Just a small update. I found a really neat trick that effectively turns our currency into a decentralized incubator. I've been consumed with working on it. So far I've written about 5000 lines in and I'm finallly in the process of getting it to compile. While I've been doing this, I've also been documenting the code and our new process in a governance wiki. I'll publish all of this in approximately 14 days.  Smiley

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April 06, 2016, 10:59:54 PM

Is there a whitepaper?

https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdf

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April 06, 2016, 11:01:43 PM

v12.1 is going to be neat  Cool

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v12.1 is going to be neat  Cool
ETA on 12.1 hitting testnet? Smiley
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