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[Drobek]

Yep, have a node that earned 1 DRK in 22 days - folks here suggest this is a natural result of random distribution which I am afraid it is not.
Yep, I have studied probability & statistics so do not try that one on me.
If there is 45% chance of getting paid on any day, what is the probability of getting 1 positive result out of 22?   You tell me :-)
In a bigger scheme of things I do not mind but the distribution is far from random.

Were you paid once or were you elected once?

Paid, because I got the figure for probability of getting paid, which is around 45% over the last 20 days.
In fairness, I got elected 5 times, which is still quite poor but not as unbelievable

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[camosoul]

Advertising another coin because it needs it...

I find it interesting that Dev Promises get the front page while tangible action for 5 months didn't...

Hey Camel [Toe] (If you're going to try a childish insult, at least go all the way.),

Their anon is working atm through exchanges, the PoSA release is in the next few days AFAIK. That's the real game changer.

You post that as if it were a good thing... lols. Tumble through exchanges? You thought about it enough to process through your brain as input, go all the way around, and still manage to become output without getting filtered out by any bullshit/really fucking bad idea detectors? Really?

/ignore

Not for being a troll.

Not for promoting a coin that doesn't belong here.

But, for being really, really, really fucking stupid.

I'm not seeing any game changers. Sorry. I'd buy it if there were any.

If it doesn't have a portion of it's block proofed by PoW, it's a shitcoin. There is no argument against this.

See, it works like this:

If enabling the shitcoin remover results in your coin being removed, well, uh, it's a shitcoin.

[TanteStefana2]

Experiencing some rather odd Masternode payment "variance".

I have 3 nodes presently running, with monitoring showing they've never been down (once I got emails from the service, but I immediately checked all of them, and they were all still running). They show green on all of his servers as well as "1" in MN list.

Highest present estimate of nodes (poolhash): 682

I had one go more than 8 days without payment (or votes): (681/682)^(576* = ~0.00116

Worse, presently these 3 nodes haven't been payed (or voted) in more than 3 days: (679/682)^(576*3) = ~0.000492

I'll file this under category: "Unlikely"

Not that unlikely.  I had a mn payment yesterday which hadn't received a payment in 10 days.  Also, my other MN received 5 pmts in one day.  In the end, it all equaled out to a bit over 2/3 a coin a day for them over this past month (or since starting).  I'm glad I have 2 MNs because it helps keep me from panicking, LOL.  If I only had 1 and it didn't get paid in 10 days, I'd be freaking out all the time.

[camosoul]

Has the multi-entry for MNs been scrapped?

[TanteStefana2]

Yep, have a node that earned 1 DRK in 22 days - folks here suggest this is a natural result of random distribution which I am afraid it is not.
Yep, I have studied probability & statistics so do not try that one on me.
If there is 45% chance of getting paid on any day, what is the probability of getting 1 positive result out of 22?   You tell me :-)
In a bigger scheme of things I do not mind but the distribution is far from random.

If I weren't so lazy, er, um, busy, I would have redone my masternode (see above) with a new ip etc to get rid of the bad luck, LOL.  What I'm trying to say is that you could just reset it to see if your luck changes.  Then again, sometimes I think that all the bad luck has passed and my node is due for some good luck?? 

Like I said, that's why it's nice having 2 nodes because it is more likely to even out.

[luigi1111]

Gold taking off on the back of the Malaysian Airlines incident.

That means Bitcoin to follow + the rest of the alts to follow that.

I'm not following the correlation between these two things... Please, elaborate.

Specifically, I see the Gold Crowd and the Cryptocurrency Crowd as polar opposites divided by the "backing" argument; those smart enough to realize backing is stupid are Cryptofans. Those too stupid to see that Au is just fancy Pb due to it's lack of fungibility and the fact that it can be lost, stolen, counterfeited, etc. It's now just an industrial metal... People with their heads stuck in the dark ages are AU supporters...

Real gold bugs hate crypto like hell

There are exceptions. Like myself.
But I agree that for example over at zerohedge (gold bugs paradise), bitcoin is very much hated, both "tyler durden" and most of the people in the comment section are largely CONTRA bitcoin.
All articles are PRO gold/silver... most articles about bitcoin have a negative undertone.
They behave like prostitutes who don't like that another more beautiful and younger prostitute has entered their turf or something...  

Why can't they love both, like me?  (I mean the moneis, not necessarily the prostitutes)

I read ZH as well, but have a bit more positive view. The Bitcoin articles seem more neutral to me than negative (in most cases). However, the comments section is indeed generally very negative (it doesn't help that many of the very few pro-btc comments are from complete tools).

[Drobek]

If I weren't so lazy, er, um, busy, I would have redone my masternode (see above) with a new ip etc to get rid of the bad luck, LOL.  What I'm trying to say is that you could just reset it to see if your luck changes.  Then again, sometimes I think that all the bad luck has passed and my node is due for some good luck?? 

Like I said, that's why it's nice having 2 nodes because it is more likely to even out.

Will do, at least it will provide me with a mental comfort

[georgem]

I read ZH as well, but have a bit more positive view. The Bitcoin articles seem more neutral to me than negative (in most cases). However, the comments section is indeed generally very negative (it doesn't help that many of the very few pro-btc comments are from complete tools).

I haven't been on zerohedge in a while (can only focus on one forum at a time), could be that their sentiment changed post mt.gox.
Been on zerohedge for 4 years, and I remember the rather negative articles about bitcoin in the earlier days when some started to realize that actual money is invested in bitcoin instead of gold/silver.

But they definitely took the bitcoin was hacked train when mt.gox happened...
The only one blogger who keeps on delivering the positive bitcoin articles to zerohedge is mike krieger from http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/ ... so I skip zerohedge and read his blog directly.

[luigi1111]

Experiencing some rather odd Masternode payment "variance".

I have 3 nodes presently running, with monitoring showing they've never been down (once I got emails from the service, but I immediately checked all of them, and they were all still running). They show green on all of his servers as well as "1" in MN list.

Highest present estimate of nodes (poolhash): 682

I had one go more than 8 days without payment (or votes): (681/682)^(576* = ~0.00116

Worse, presently these 3 nodes haven't been payed (or voted) in more than 3 days: (679/682)^(576*3) = ~0.000492

I'll file this under category: "Unlikely"

Not that unlikely.  I had a mn payment yesterday which hadn't received a payment in 10 days.  Also, my other MN received 5 pmts in one day.  In the end, it all equaled out to a bit over 2/3 a coin a day for them over this past month (or since starting).  I'm glad I have 2 MNs because it helps keep me from panicking, LOL.  If I only had 1 and it didn't get paid in 10 days, I'd be freaking out all the time.

Let's not kid ourselves: using the raw probabilities from above, it's extremely unlikely. However, it obviously happened.

[dotnetmin]

Gold taking off on the back of the Malaysian Airlines incident.

That means Bitcoin to follow + the rest of the alts to follow that.

I'm not following the correlation between these two things... Please, elaborate.

Specifically, I see the Gold Crowd and the Cryptocurrency Crowd as polar opposites divided by the "backing" argument; those smart enough to realize backing is stupid are Cryptofans. Those too stupid to see that Au is just fancy Pb due to it's lack of fungibility and the fact that it can be lost, stolen, counterfeited, etc. It's now just an industrial metal... People with their heads stuck in the dark ages are AU supporters...

Real gold bugs hate crypto like hell

There are exceptions. Like myself.
But I agree that for example over at zerohedge (gold bugs paradise), bitcoin is very much hated, both "tyler durden" and most of the people in the comment section are largely CONTRA bitcoin.
All articles are PRO gold/silver... most articles about bitcoin have a negative undertone.
They behave like prostitutes who don't like that another more beautiful and younger prostitute has entered their turf or something...  

Why can't they love both, like me?   (I mean the moneis, not necessarily the prostitutes)

I also do not understand why for the most of them do hate crypto like hell.
I once tryed to discuss with them - no chance.
I like my bullion, especially the lunar series, but why not have another optiion than fiat ?
Finally James Turk (goldmoney.com) accept bitcoin, thats a good sign to find together.

For people intereted in PM market. there is a good block managed by eric king - www.kingworldnews.com

[DogTheHunter]

Hey guys,

In case you missed it, Cloak just made the frontpage of the biggest darkweb news site on the net.

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/07/17/cloakcoin-promises-holy-grail-cryptocurrency-anonymity/

USD/Cloak pairing coming in the next week as well on www.hitbitc.com

Look forward to seeing the new Darksend+, finally nice to see some healthy competition in the anon space.

I find it interesting that Dev Promises get the front page while tangible action for 5 months didn't...

I just noticed that coinmarketcap doesn't list Cloak.... Oh, yeah, because I have the shitcoin remover enabled...

lol

very straight to the point, like a laser guided spam destroyer.

I might have some, but its not cool to spam other threads.

[McHammer]

any guesses when the node payments will be 100% 

[bobo418]

Is changing a masternode IP accepted as a valid workaround for infrequent payments? Or is it more of a troubleshooting "can't hurt to try" sort of thing?

[georgem]

I also do not understand why for the most of them do hate crypto like hell.
I once tryed to discuss with them - no chance.
I like my bullion, especially the lunar series, but why not have another optiion than fiat ?
Finally James Turk (goldmoney.com) accept bitcoin, thats a good sign to find together.

For people intereted in PM market. there is a good block managed by eric king - www.kingworldnews.com

I believe that most of the zerohedge people are not from generation X or Y... but rather babyboomers themselves... or atleast younger babyboomers (born around 1960)
They were able to see the last gold/silver boom (late 70s), and how rich it made some people, so this is the big investment play they had invested in the last decades... and now it's happening...
So they already sit on a lot of gold/silver they were able to buy when the price was hilariously low (can you imagine, paying 300$ for a goldcoin, or 100$ for 1 kilo of silver, lol)

So since gold/silver has risen to the price level it has now, they NEED customers to buy the expensive gold/silver from them, because they make a profit of 500% or more on it. Often even taxfree (with gold)...
and that's how they are now going into retirement. They need the ROI now and count on it.

Therefor they HATE everyone who comes between them and the deal.

So much vile contempt against bitcoin and inability to understand bitcoin is very reminisce of stubborn older people. I am just saying, nothin against old people in general. I want to be a happy old guy one day... but now that I am young and flexible no wonder I am into all kind of groundbreaking risky stuff like bitcoin.

If all goes kaputt I can simply restart... older people can't do that. Ergo the Hate.

[Brilliantrocket]

any guesses when the node payments will be 100% 

It's already around 96%. 100% will come with RC4.

[HinnomTX]

Is changing a masternode IP accepted as a valid workaround for infrequent payments? Or is it more of a troubleshooting "can't hurt to try" sort of thing?

I can only tell you that, like some others around here, I had a 'bad luck' masternode (2 payments in 17 days) and re-built it with new everything (new IP, new address '0', new masternode privkey) and so far it's paying out much better now (2 payments in 2 days). Definitely worth a shot IMO.

[camosoul]

any guesses when the node payments will be 100% 

It's already around 96%. 100% will come with RC4.

For voluntary compliance in the face of bs spam about mn tax rage, 96% is fucking amazing. Who would even care about the last 4% with RC4 coming soon, which is such a huge and fundamental overhaul of the system that failure to update is essentially using a completely different coin, much less a fork...

[camosoul]

Is changing a masternode IP accepted as a valid workaround for infrequent payments? Or is it more of a troubleshooting "can't hurt to try" sort of thing?

I can only tell you that, like some others around here, I had a 'bad luck' masternode (2 payments in 17 days) and re-built it with new everything (new IP, new address '0', new masternode privkey) and so far it's paying out much better now (2 payments in 2 days). Definitely worth a shot IMO.

You could also be building towards votes right now and fuck yourself by disappearing...

2 days is nowhere near a useful sampling for the depth of probability here.

The only "problem" is that the probability depth is much, much longer than the average money hose operator's attention span...

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[HinnomTX]

Is changing a masternode IP accepted as a valid workaround for infrequent payments? Or is it more of a troubleshooting "can't hurt to try" sort of thing?

I can only tell you that, like some others around here, I had a 'bad luck' masternode (2 payments in 17 days) and re-built it with new everything (new IP, new address '0', new masternode privkey) and so far it's paying out much better now (2 payments in 2 days). Definitely worth a shot IMO.

You could also be building towards votes right now and fuck yourself by disappearing...

2 days is nowhere near a useful sampling for the depth of probability here.

The only "problem" is that the probability depth is much, much longer than the average money hose operator's attention span...

I have a nice sized sample set of masternodes that I run. But this one was a serious laggard with payments for no clear reason. Time will tell if I fixed the problem, of course...