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July 18, 2014, 10:13:58 PM
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Yep, have a node that earned 1 DRK in 22 days - folks here suggest this is a natural result of random distribution which I am afraid it is not.
Yep, I have studied probability & statistics so do not try that one on me.
If there is 45% chance of getting paid on any day, what is the probability of getting 1 positive result out of 22?   You tell me :-)
In a bigger scheme of things I do not mind but the distribution is far from random.
If I weren't so lazy, er, um, busy, I would have redone my masternode (see above) with a new ip etc to get rid of the bad luck, LOL.  What I'm trying to say is that you could just reset it to see if your luck changes.  Then again, sometimes I think that all the bad luck has passed and my node is due for some good luck??  

Like I said, that's why it's nice having 2 nodes because it is more likely to even out.
typical gamblers habit.. "I've lost so many times, the next one should be a win.. " -- odds are still the same
Bet AGAINST the streak. I've never walked away from a roulette table with less money than I approached with... There's no substitute for knowing what you're dealing with and having self-control.

Damn...you ARE good. I bet Vegas hates to see you coming. you should play roulette full-time.
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July 18, 2014, 10:17:52 PM
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Yep, have a node that earned 1 DRK in 22 days - folks here suggest this is a natural result of random distribution which I am afraid it is not.
Yep, I have studied probability & statistics so do not try that one on me.
If there is 45% chance of getting paid on any day, what is the probability of getting 1 positive result out of 22?   You tell me :-)
In a bigger scheme of things I do not mind but the distribution is far from random.
If I weren't so lazy, er, um, busy, I would have redone my masternode (see above) with a new ip etc to get rid of the bad luck, LOL.  What I'm trying to say is that you could just reset it to see if your luck changes.  Then again, sometimes I think that all the bad luck has passed and my node is due for some good luck??  

Like I said, that's why it's nice having 2 nodes because it is more likely to even out.
typical gamblers habit.. "I've lost so many times, the next one should be a win.. " -- odds are still the same
Bet AGAINST the streak. I've never walked away from a roulette table with less money than I approached with... There's no substitute for knowing what you're dealing with and having self-control.
Damn...you ARE good. I bet Vegas hates to see you coming. you should play roulette full-time.
No, then I'd lose. That's one of the rules. Self-control.

Oddly, Vegas is the only place I can find table rules that suit my system. No other casinos are willing to take such long odds. Vegas is the only place I'm welcome, and I really, REALLY should not be...

It's not gambling when it's math.

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July 18, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
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Lets play the coinjoinsudoku game.  You will lose.

Guess we'll soon see, as the coinjoinsudoku author will review DRK source.
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July 18, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
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I'm sorry for this, its totally out of topic.. but I can't hold myself.

 Absolutely no offence to any Russian nationals... but I am completely disgusted at Vladimir Putin (not Russia)  Embarrassed
 This is without doubt one of the most obvious crimes against Humanity. There is no excuse.
 Ukraine are poor, but a highly educated and cultured society. The plane was clearly missiled by contracted russian separatists

 I hope Putin chokes in his own puke  Angry Angry Angry

Yes, it's true. So sad and scary to realise that anyone is capable to do such a dreadful thing. I wonder how do this putin guy is able to put his head on his pillow and have a peaceful sleep.

Not a human... a monster. And the worst: it's not only him.

GET OUT OF HERE !

Is it with me? Why? What did i do to displease your highness?

Might want to consider the Malaysia Flight was Today's Lusitania.
If you don't know how pivotal the Lusitania was and the disturbing facts behind it's sinking then look it up...

I took a shitty dump today and it was totally not fair.. He was teasing half ways, playing dirty and unfair, before he decided to slurp right back up again.. now I can feel it in my lung and my breath tastes like shit.
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July 18, 2014, 10:22:24 PM
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Lets play the coinjoinsudoku game.  You will lose.

Guess we'll soon see, as the coinjoinsudoku author will review DRK source.

I have to assume that is the first thing he will try.

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July 18, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
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July 18, 2014, 10:29:23 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
This argument was made a long time ago, and is the reason it hasn't been open sourced yet.

RC5/OpenSource is not the end of the line for DRK developments. Evan made it clear that this is V1.0, and he fully intends to do a lot more with 2.0. From this I glean that he intends to make the clonecoin market better, and then keep going with DRK after that.

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July 18, 2014, 10:30:46 PM
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waffle pool jumps in for 9 minutes and grab 9 blocks quickly, then goodbye suckers, eat the DGW , I like their style

7 mins ago   07/19 06:18:28   104324 [1][2]   3794.073   5   suchpool   Xt9RT3CM79eKSx8ykUce2VjaABUNXWPu6B   1.000200
9 mins ago   07/19 06:16:28   104323 [1][2]   3704.897   6   suchpool   XfWi2VA78SPGXrzTJemkGF4z7V3Y4MKpXB   1.200000
10 mins ago   07/19 06:16:08   104322 [1][2]   2657.835   6   wafflepool   Xrmp1EvZMB4wm2z9Byq6hPp8SYteG18ZrX   1.200400
11 mins ago   07/19 06:14:40   104321 [1][2]   2595.976   6   wafflepool   XhETn9bZo8Ck5ZvRApyQYN7nTaz4HNwoWd   1.201000
12 mins ago   07/19 06:13:53   104320 [1][2]   2611.565   6   coinotroncom   XmvRsmzaFX61fdV6DhJmWnNyTtUgxBaTcr   1.200000
12 mins ago   07/19 06:13:34   104319 [1][2]   2640.659   6   wafflepool   Xgr8HJg3M889TcMp9iFVqHao2Ae9WBLsaQ   1.200000
13 mins ago   07/19 06:12:33   104318 [1][2][3]   2624.492   6   wafflepool   Xwzrfx9N76HzKx12UvkYk1BgjnhfMQu75S   1.200200
14 mins ago   07/19 06:12:06   104317 [1][2][3]   2618.405   6   multipoolus   XmGzHxy1MbuFGukpENef2XVH5qaioZ2ous   1.200000
14 mins ago   07/19 06:11:58   104316 [1][2][3]   2535.417   6   wafflepool   XcqRgHKnuGdEdAbaW3bEBkMizZPN2d7HoF   1.200000
14 mins ago   07/19 06:11:51   104315 [1][2][3]   2599.871   6   wafflepool   XySf7mzViNb5RML74LGuaa3rbih3YvcraY   1.200600
15 mins ago   07/19 06:10:33   104314 [1][2][3]   2621.739   6   wafflepool   XdLGLPzySrbcX6y2VjDUc1ucyFqxEpLH7p   1.200000
17 mins ago   07/19 06:09:07   104313 [1][2][3]   2701.587   6   wafflepool   XmGLxsx1tkFU6r6m4tRu8XEU8FW2NVVbq7   1.200000
19 mins ago   07/19 06:07:01   104312 [1][2][3]   2792.259   5   wafflepool   Xhde56ovpEhndj9ZDkCEqbDVXTGHFcKmXN   1.000000
21 mins ago   07/19 06:04:55   104311 [1][2][3]   3305.647   5   suchpool   XdCV3GdWSSuWPhTuPm6XCyof3Up3CoeQJn   1.001800
32 mins ago   07/19 05:54:09   104310 [1][2][3]   3177.447   5   suchpool   XebmQFYuAEnHdUNfhdkSfznRFhqpvvci7A   1.000000
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July 18, 2014, 10:33:02 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
That is not an option. It is not up for debate. And it will not remain closed source. Period.

Closed source means no one has any idea what actually is happening. Closed source means it could be tracking every tx and reporting them to the NSA and you would have absolutley no way of knowing.

It will be open source. Period.
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July 18, 2014, 10:33:52 PM
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what is the status? the thread is way to long

1.progress
2. you are too short
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July 18, 2014, 10:34:09 PM
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Lets play the coinjoinsudoku game.  You will lose.

Guess we'll soon see, as the coinjoinsudoku author will review DRK source.

I have to assume that is the first thing he will try.

If Darksend+ works the way I think it does then coinjoin sudoku is going to be like banging you head against a completely uniform brick wall. Timing analysis too becomes impossible.

2^160 address space - I think Evan has got it sorted. Smiley
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July 18, 2014, 10:36:52 PM
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Honestly, I can't wait for asics. Multipools are annoying.
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July 18, 2014, 10:39:15 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
That is not an option. It is not up for debate. And it will not remain closed source. Period.

Closed source means no one has any idea what actually is happening. Closed source means it could be tracking every tx and reporting them to the NSA and you would have absolutley no way of knowing.

It will be open source. Period.

But does darkcoin have a commanding lead in X11 yet that it can be as confident as bitcoin?

A coin made of piss could be pumped to 0.012 and have the same hash rate as of darkcoin right now.
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July 18, 2014, 10:39:50 PM
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Honestly, I can't wait for asics. Multipools are annoying.
Yet another reason not to tamper with the natural order of things...

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July 18, 2014, 10:41:48 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
That is not an option. It is not up for debate. And it will not remain closed source. Period.

Closed source means no one has any idea what actually is happening. Closed source means it could be tracking every tx and reporting them to the NSA and you would have absolutley no way of knowing.

It will be open source. Period.

But does darkcoin have a commanding lead in X11 yet that it can be as confident as bitcoin?

A coin made of piss could be pumped to 0.012 and have the same hash rate as of darkcoin right now.
And?
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July 18, 2014, 10:42:08 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
That is not an option. It is not up for debate. And it will not remain closed source. Period.

Closed source means no one has any idea what actually is happening. Closed source means it could be tracking every tx and reporting them to the NSA and you would have absolutley no way of knowing.

It will be open source. Period.
But does darkcoin have a commanding lead in X11 yet that it can be as confident as bitcoin?

A coin made of piss could be pumped to 0.012 and have the same hash rate as of darkcoin right now.
DRK will continue to be awesome; because Evan.

Try to remember that what we're seeing now is DRK 1.0 in the making. Once Open Sourced, Evan said he'll be working on DRK v2.0...

Essentially, volunteering to make the clonecoins suck less because their devs are crap and can't do it on their own. Then, making DRK v2.0.

Manly.

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July 18, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
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Newbie question:

What happens if Darkcoin opensources darksend and the next day 10 clone coins pops up claiming the same feature?

I rather keep it close sourced.
Let me answer with a counter-question. Which of the following would you rather use and/or invest in?

1) the coin that that has produced innovation after innovation (e.g., x11, darksend, darksend+, enforcement, masternodes), has an existing strong community of backers (e.g., developers, testers, graphics designers, marketing experts), has the third most liquid market (behind only Bitcoin and Litecoin in trading volume), support from major exchanges including USD markets, and a slew of enhancements on the horizon actively being worked on (e.g., new wallet, new website), OR

2) one of ten indistinguishable clone coins with no history of innovation (other than copying from another coin), a nascent community, limited exchange support, and low trading volumes (i.e., illiquid markets)

Darkcoin has the early mover advantage. Clone coins will have a very hard time siphoning support away from Darkcoin. It has too many advantages, and a growing network that is difficult (though not impossible) to replicate. I would say the only chance a copy cat could have would be to start innovating faster than DRK, AND be lucky enough to have DRK stumble irrecoverably in some way.
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July 18, 2014, 10:42:57 PM
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A coin made of piss could be pumped to 0.012 and have the same hash rate as of darkcoin right now.
And?
I am totally going to design an ice-cube tray shaped like a coin... For reasons.

Oh, and it'll be based on a guvpaper theme, cuz guvpaper is piss money...

Oh shit, google wins:



I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will own this...

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July 18, 2014, 10:47:32 PM
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Lets play the coinjoinsudoku game.  You will lose.

Guess we'll soon see, as the coinjoinsudoku author will review DRK source.

Yeah... but, why are they paying him in Darkcoins to do the review?
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July 18, 2014, 10:47:42 PM
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x11.ltc1btc.com and wafflepool have been mining drk separately for a while already, and they always had over 30-40% of the blocks, its x11.ltc1btc.com dumping 80g of chinese hashes onto wafflepool making it more obvious.

They actually made wafflepool less profitable for old miners

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Date                    BTC                   Hashrate     BTC / 1MH            vs LTC
Jul 18, 2014 (partial)   27.15784433   106.59 GH/s   0.00031975   184%
Jul 17, 2014   17.00206005   41.07 GH/s   0.00041398   245%
Jul 16, 2014   12.01222799   22.02 GH/s   0.00054544   321%
Jul 15, 2014   9.91806994   24.28 GH/s   0.00040851   238%
Jul 14, 2014   10.93665827   25.60 GH/s   0.00042726   248%
Jul 13, 2014   8.90837862   22.60 GH/s   0.00039421   224%
Jul 12, 2014   8.11079080   22.24 GH/s   0.00036466   224%
Last Hour of Coin Mining

Not the fault of wafflepool.

from mn,and this hash power. I can't believe ltc1btc.com is friendly to drk. They are doing bad shit now. They want to destroy drk for protecting ltc they hold. Guys, we need to do some thing now.

This is the best project in crypto----DarkCoin. Time will tell and don't blame you miss it.
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