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January 28, 2016, 09:55:25 PM |
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New interview with Andreas Antonopoulos talking about Dash as a sidechain of Bitcoinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSq-58ElBzk&t=20m1sIs this related to the budget about travel to Satoshi Roundtable Conference?
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eduffield (OP)
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January 28, 2016, 10:27:31 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that. The economic model won't function properly on a side chain and whole thing will be insecure. Who's paying the masternodes an incentive, where is that money coming from?
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January 28, 2016, 10:29:04 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that. The economic model won't function properly and whole thing will be insecure. Amen to that.
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HinnomTX
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January 28, 2016, 10:32:36 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that. The economic model won't function properly on a side chain and whole thing will be insecure. Who's paying the masternodes an incentive, where is that money coming from? LOL! Those Bitcoin maximalists do get carried away with their dreams sometimes.
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"One can only solve so much with cryptography. The rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature." -Evan Duffield Dash is Digital Cash. https://www.dash.org
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Honest Tim
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January 28, 2016, 10:36:12 PM |
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Thanks for the link Melech. AA looks like he's got his hands tied behind his back???
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Macrochip
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January 28, 2016, 10:38:40 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that.
Thank Duffield for that! If Dash would ever pledge submission to the Dark Side of Crypto and become a slave to Blockstream-Core it would be treason of the highest degree in my eyes and I would be out before you could blink. To hell with Adam Back and his agenda of destruction.
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January 28, 2016, 10:58:32 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that.
Thank Duffield for that! If Dash would ever pledge submission to the Dark Side of Crypto and become a slave to Blockstream-Core it would be treason of the highest degree in my eyes and I would be out before you could blink. To hell with Adam Back and his agenda of destruction. One can only solve so much with cryptography, the rest of the solution will prove to be economic in nature.
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January 28, 2016, 11:00:48 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that. The economic model won't function properly on a side chain and whole thing will be insecure. Who's paying the masternodes an incentive, where is that money coming from? Amen. I've never understood all the bitcoiners drinking the side chain koolaid.
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Melech
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January 28, 2016, 11:12:20 PM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that. The economic model won't function properly on a side chain and whole thing will be insecure. Who's paying the masternodes an incentive, where is that money coming from? Can't say that I really know what he's talking about... AA knows way more about this stuff than I do. He mentioned Blockstream, but its the first I've heard of them My ears heard the word Dash a couple times... Good to hear (insert longest name ever) give Dash a shoutout
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January 28, 2016, 11:14:19 PM |
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So if this 400k stolen coin sale is true, DASH price should reach 0.02 in a month or so, after this ETH frenzy finishes... ITs funny to observe DOGE flying high too.
What goes up for no reason will come down for reason
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January 28, 2016, 11:25:57 PM |
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My ears heard the word Dash a couple times... Good to hear (insert longest name ever) give Dash a shoutout
He's done a great job of maintaining his neutrallity over the diversity of offerings and not getting bogged down in politics I think. At the same time he's been able to highlight lots of advantages in the various camps. Not an easy balancing act considering he must get lobbied to death by all the competing factions for him to plant his flag with some alt or other.
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Melech
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January 28, 2016, 11:49:10 PM |
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My ears heard the word Dash a couple times... Good to hear (insert longest name ever) give Dash a shoutout
He's done a great job of maintaining his neutrallity over the diversity of offerings and not getting bogged down in politics I think. At the same time he's been able to highlight lots of advantages in the various camps. Not an easy balancing act considering he must get lobbied to death by all the competing factions for him to plant his flag with some alt or other. True, I have heard AA talk for days about bitcoin and the technical details, but don't recall him mentioning altcoins at all before now. Not that I was keeping count, but I heard him say the word Dash at least twice, and Monero zero times...
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January 28, 2016, 11:54:47 PM |
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From the creators of the Dash N Drink, we bring you a phase 2 proposal called Vendor-Experience. After all of the interest the Dash N Drink showed in Miami, we anticipate future products we create and present will do the same. Please vote and or ask any questions. https://www.dashwhale.org/p/Vendor-ExperienceWe believe the best way to grow Dash is to give users a place to spend their Dash. Dash has an advantage over any other crypto with InstantX that can enable point of sale purchases without risk. We plan to utilize this advantage to show projects in the real world. The initial project we implemented was the Dash N Drink soda machine. The key to making this project was to implement InstantX detection and trigger a machine credit. This has now opened the door for the next phase. The next projects we will work on will include more sophisticated interfaces that will take engineering and software to connect to properly. We will be updating mobile wallets so they work quickly and easily. We expect to deploy actual products in actual stores. The core team members coordinating this project are Camosoul, Moocowmoo, and Solarminer. dash-cli mnbudget vote-many 1cfc2525f33d8dee81640f6860fc85751acea552724ec58d6619f7fcee694ea1 yes sorry but i think no as this is too open ended and vague and too long duration. The soda machine was fantastic. I hope you do further proposal(s) with more specific and clear objective. Break it down a bit, put a bit more detail what the actual deliverable of each one is. I don't think it is realistic to vote yes then change to no later, how would we judge the progress ?
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January 29, 2016, 12:03:00 AM |
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My ears heard the word Dash a couple times... Good to hear (insert longest name ever) give Dash a shoutout
He's done a great job of maintaining his neutrallity over the diversity of offerings and not getting bogged down in politics I think. At the same time he's been able to highlight lots of advantages in the various camps. Not an easy balancing act considering he must get lobbied to death by all the competing factions for him to plant his flag with some alt or other. True, I have heard AA talk for days about bitcoin and the technical details, but don't recall him mentioning altcoins at all before now. Not that I was keeping count, but I heard him say the word Dash at least twice, and Monero zero times... Well, he also tweeted this -> https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/690558193731244032To me it seems like he sees most altcoins negatively, because in his view they could be added as sidechains anyway. I know eduffield said DASH won't become a sidechain itself, but that won't stop anyone from integrating it as a sidechain.
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January 29, 2016, 12:34:10 AM |
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Don't get too excited with your omission though, the conversation continued after that -> https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/691772759429488641 I know eduffield said DASH won't become a sidechain itself, but that won't stop anyone from integrating it as a sidechain. True, but the value of 1 Sidechain-DASH will be negative-0 due to the economic model Evan built, while real DASH will grow in price, userbase, utility and adoption, because that's where the actual development & funding happens and will continue to happen.
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January 29, 2016, 12:47:58 AM |
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Evan,
I would like to invite you to have dinner at my house, so we can chat about bitcoin (and maybe dash). I believe this is of great value for you, so the ticket, with dinner included and after drinks, is $5000. I suggest you create a proposal and submit it. Pretty sure it will pass.
Edit: you can bring Otoh if that helps...
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Macrochip
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January 29, 2016, 01:01:48 AM |
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Evan,
I would like to invite you to have dinner at my house, so we can chat about bitcoin (and maybe dash). I believe this is of great value for you, so the ticket, with dinner included and after drinks, is $5000. I suggest you create a proposal and submit it. Pretty sure it will pass.
Edit: you can bring Otoh if that helps...
I guess you're not a native speaker (like me btw): SourceDon't get me wrong though: I, too, think that's a pretty hefty fee. Just wanted to straighten out the logic in the wording here.
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January 29, 2016, 01:12:48 AM |
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yep, you're right! Not a native english speaker so please excuse me my underdog english. glad you understood my point anyway
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January 29, 2016, 01:20:02 AM |
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You can't make Dash into a side-chain, it's immune to that. The economic model won't function properly on a side chain and whole thing will be insecure. Who's paying the masternodes an incentive, where is that money coming from? Dash can be made into a sidechain. The PoW function is simply replaced with a two-way-peg to BTC. The advantage of that is BTC's well-tested sha256 network hashrate is orders of magnitude higher and thus more secure than Dash's problematic homebrew X11. Sidechains may set whatever local rules they want, including PoS schemes for Masternode voting. Therefore a sidechain is the ideal medium for a fair Dash relaunch, to take care of the X11 weakest link, Insta-mine, and Foundation centralization problems once and for all.
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