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July 02, 2016, 12:43:45 AM

Be sure to vote in the Dash Civil War poll!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1534087.0

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July 02, 2016, 02:04:25 AM

 Cheesy  aaahhhhh.  Its great to see some old friends on here again.   Kiss  Something exciting must be afoot when our pets show up.   Cool shades on...enjoy the summer my fellow DASH members!  Please make sure to come visit to.

PS.   Its great to see our trading spread out to different exchanges now...Polo is now 2nd, thats a first in very long time...and EXMO is catching up.  Wink

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July 02, 2016, 03:12:09 AM

Dear all,

for convenience and on popular demand we have created a Dash PPA for Ubuntu - so installation on Ubuntu Linux is much easier now.

Just do

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dash.org/dash
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install dashd dash-qt

and your Dash wallet is ready to use

Enjoy  Smiley

This is very cool, and I just installed it on my laptop as I always launch it via terminal normally, but I thought I'd get with the program (and try the PPA out).  I'm wondering if this is in fact a safer way to install the Dash wallet?  Or can this PPA be hacked easier than the git or website download?  Just wondering, as we can't check the hash this way??

The safest way to install Dash is to clone the git repo and use gitian to create the binaries and compare the gitian.sigs with other builds/sources.

PPA is a common and convenient way for Ubuntu users to populate their system - the packages are signed, the source package has the exact same hash value than git and can be verified as well.

I don't say this form of distribution is safe from hacking, same goes for Windows Update and Apple Store. It's the users choice to trust my digital signatures or not.

Holger "flare" Schinzel <holger@dash.org>

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July 02, 2016, 03:42:53 AM

Nice BTC and Dash technical analysis (price) by by Aaron Casillas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw4LdtG_v0I

TLDR: buy btc and buy dash

It is a good analysis, and I don't want to take anything from it, but... just buy the dip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akBdQa55b4

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July 02, 2016, 09:23:58 AM

A small detail for Moocowmoo's awesome masternode.me pages

if a user uses dash.conf instead of masternode.conf then this

Code:
masternode start-missing "My wallet password"

results in:

Code:
{
    "overall" : "Successfully started 0 masternodes, failed to start 0, total 0",
    "detail" : {
    }
}


instead

Code:
masternode start "My wallet password"

has to be used.

Code:
Masternode successfully started

Also you might think of placeing a note somewhere that when your wallet password contains spaces you have to put it into those " ".
Thank you for your masternode service. Smiley

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July 02, 2016, 10:18:51 AM

A small detail for Moocowmoo's awesome masternode.me pages

if a user uses dash.conf instead of masternode.conf then this

Code:
masternode start-missing "My wallet password"

results in:

Code:
{
    "overall" : "Successfully started 0 masternodes, failed to start 0, total 0",
    "detail" : {
    }
}


instead

Code:
masternode start "My wallet password"

has to be used.

Code:
Masternode successfully started

Also you might think of placeing a note somewhere that when your wallet password contains spaces you have to put it into those " ".
Thank you for your masternode service. Smiley



General notice:
Please do not use dash.conf for local settings of your remote masternode, use masternode.conf even if you have 1 masternode only. Or at least make sure you have commented out masternode=1  in dash.conf (or changed it to masternode=0) when you done. Otherwise masternode will restart every time you start your local wallet i.e. it will drop to the end of the payment queue.

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July 03, 2016, 01:50:23 AM

if a user uses dash.conf instead of masternode.conf then this

I'd explicitly removed all dash.conf instructions because they'd become deprecated.
I'll add a note explaining this.

Also you might think of placeing a note somewhere that when your wallet password contains spaces you have to put it into those " ".

This is a very good point. I'll add it.

Thank you for your masternode service. Smiley

You're welcome! Glad to have you on board!

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July 03, 2016, 11:23:10 AM

It all fits together perfectly now. The last puzzle piece I actually received from the very perceptive TanteStefana, so thanks for that.
What we knew already:

CryptoNote: NSA group project

Nicolas van SaberhAgen = alleged creator of CryptoNote protocol, when in reality an inside joke, see bold letters

Bytecoin: First currency using CryptoNote, proven scam due to premine and broken anonymity caused by that premine.

Monero: "Bitmonero" as it was called was launched by an anonymous entity and almost definitely by the same entity that launched Bytecoin in an attempt to get rid of the exposed Bytecoin premine scam desaster and reboot the same trash with the same objective: Government honeypot

Last puzzle piece:
iCEBREAKER: I came to the conclusion that he's not Eduardo de Castro after all but rather a government operative there to create tension within the crypto community among privacy minded individuals and pull more people into the NSA-Monero-honeypot.

Dash (see? Not off-topic, dear mods!) is the only majorly successful cryptocurrency offering efficient anonymity without being a honeypot-scam ran by the government, that's why government agents have been incessantly attacking it for the last 2 years. No sane person on earth would be trolling the same project for that amount of time and with that frequency without it being their job. I know I will be quoted on that previous sentence, but no argument you can ever make will change the truth of that statement, government shills.

You've been exposed again. Better relaunch another CryptoNoteClone!

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It all fits together perfectly now. The last puzzle piece I actually received from the very perceptive TanteStefana, so thanks for that.
What we knew already:

CryptoNote: NSA group project

Nicolas van SaberhAgen = alleged creator of CryptoNote protocol, when in reality an inside joke, see bold letters

Bytecoin: First currency using CryptoNote, proven scam due to premine and broken anonymity caused by that premine.

Monero: "Bitmonero" as it was called was launched by an anonymous entity and almost definitely by the same entity that launched Bytecoin in an attempt to get rid of the exposed Bytecoin premine scam desaster and reboot the same trash with the same objective: Government honeypot

Last puzzle piece:
iCEBREAKER: I came to the conclusion that he's not Eduardo de Castro after all but rather a government operative there to create tension within the crypto community among privacy minded individuals and pull more people into the NSA-Monero-honeypot.

Dash (see? Not off-topic, dear mods!) is the only majorly successful cryptocurrency offering efficient anonymity without being a honeypot-scam ran by the government, that's why government agents have been incessantly attacking it for the last 2 years. No sane person on earth would be trolling the same project for that amount of time and with that frequency without it being their job. I know I will be quoted on that previous sentence, but no argument you can ever make will change the truth of that statement, government shills.

You've been exposed again. Better relaunch another CryptoNoteClone!

I've always thought this about Monero, but I never thought IB was trolling because it's his job..... It does make sense though. 

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Someone is willing to pay a heavy premium to move funds from XMR to DASH right now. Should offer a good arbitrage opportunity or a good chance to invest in XMR if you were planning to do so (I know we have considerable overlap in our investor base).
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Government honeypot

I saw the "honeypot" aspect of it, but from a different perspective.

When an unbacked cryptocurency is publicly traded but cannot be publicly audited, it clears the way for all sorts of scams which can be carried out simply by infecting the eco system with everything from from hacked clients to bogus alarmism in the media.

It's a piece of cake to collapse confidence since there's no public consensus as to the blockchain state - each individual is "on their own" and even then can only inspect one address at a time with a private (or 'view') key.

There doesn't even need to be a "back door" because all a strategic attacker has to do is media-engineer a confidence collapse having previously "infected" the network with some dodgy software (e.g. clients that send transactions to a different address than the one you specified). The blockchain's obfuscation properties provide the perfect cover for the attack to remain....well......."obfuscated"  Cheesy...for enough time to create fertile ground for the confidence "rot" to develop.

In other words it's the cryptocurrency version of the "can't audit the fed" scenario.

Then when defenders started citing "math" as the basis for its security I knew that claim was a scam since blockchains are not secured by math, they are secured by code which is not the same as "math". It is a particular coder's idea of math which can be anything they see fit to type out on a whim.

Of course all blockchains are subject to this problem, but the whole point of decoupling owners from addresses in bitcoin's original implementation was to engender a powerful public consensus as to the blockchain state to make it resistant to just such confidence scams.

I imagine the original designers of the Cryptonote technology must have known this which calls into question their motivation. (I'm not talking about current devs who I beleive are acting in good faith and truly believe they're simply creating a 'privacy coin' in oblivion to the huge trap they're walking their followers into).

(P.S. My own long-held theory is that the original designers of Cryptonote tech didn't intend it to be used for unbacked money at all. It was designed as a transport vehicle for backed money - or banks, as described here - which is a whole different scenario. In that case no public consensus is needed because you have a trusted party prepared to convert your tokens to fiat at any time).
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July 03, 2016, 07:48:55 PM

Transmission 56 - https://youtu.be/3xmgveyF8nk - I get interviewed by @theo Goodman of the Crypto Network about dash - #bitcoin #dashpay #darkcoin - Note there is a mistake on the # of coins/masternodes, but we fix that number as the interview continues. Enjoy.

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July 03, 2016, 09:43:41 PM

12.1 Development Update

Hello Everyone!

Internally among the core-team (our core DAO which maintains the software, promotes Dash and executes its day-to-day activities), there’s been a building sense of excitement about the near future, d10e and beyond. Things are going great and we’re building momentum internally, toward our goal of achieving an Evolution compatible financial network to spread Dash usage around the world. However, it seems this excitement is limited to our team and information has not extensively propagated to the community about the ongoing work. While some elements - such as developing business partnerships - are difficult to share, we want to engage the community more effectively on the elements of progress that we can share.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/12-1-development-update.9648/#post-98806

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July 03, 2016, 09:49:07 PM

Wow mastermined is part of the core team now? Really scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of talent arent you

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July 03, 2016, 10:04:41 PM

Cool, we have Drklvr posting in here again, with luck he will excessively troll the Dash forum again like with his previous Adam_White account
and get banned again .. like with his Adam_White account.





 

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Amanda B Johnson: "I'm a car salesman". Dash pumper Interviewed on Bitcoin Uncensored
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4r2gn9/amanda_b_johnson_im_a_car_salesman_dash_pumper/

There are one or two points that they brought up that need to be responded to by evan or someone from the core team.
I don't think any are real issues per se and the sybil attack case they brought up could be mitigated by instantX/instasend.

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Dash: People and Code Working Together

http://dashpaymagazine.com/index.php/2016/06/29/dash-people-code-working-together/

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