[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[contraband]

UP,

What do you think about using this time while we wait and have the community decide on the logo?

[nonlinearboy]

hi, it is over to join in?
I have received the Invitation ,but ignore by some reason.
can I join in now?

[Mesutalkali]

hi, it is over to join in?
I have received the Invitation ,but ignore by some reason.
can I join in now?

Its never too late to get in NEM. 
You'll got a good chance to buy some cheap NEM after its release.
But atm there is no fix point in time.

So please be patient.

[Search]

I understand poi is giving us some problems and it will take more time for those issues are fixed. Just a ball park guess based on progress how long the team thinks it will be until an alpha is ready? A few weeks? 1 month?

Just saying that I am not dodging the question but I think stakeholders should wait until the core team run the close alpha and at that point it would be easier to give an estimate for an open Alpha.

wait to see the alpha

[pkuqsq]

how can I enter the auction?

I will publish the auction format detail possibly later today. It is good that people know in advance how it is going to work.

Where I can get the detail?

sorry still writing because I try to finish NEM stakeholder population statistics first. Will publish auction format later today.

For the number crunchers. It is different from previous statistics that I tightened the group 2 condition. Korream did the first half of this statistics then I think he gave up so i took it up to finish the statistics today.

Group 1: veteran account at least junior member, high activity, acc openned before the fundrasing   ---> about 1205 accounts
Group 2: acc openned after January 16 but have recent activity, average >15 posts, show NEM support ---> about 645 accounts
Group 3: accounts less than 10 posts, or >10 posts but with junk posts ---> about 995 accounts  

Check your status at NEM final stakeholder list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=5

That must of taken alot of work.
What does being in a particular group equate to?

It is just statistics. On the "fun to know" category.

Wohoo! Group "1"...

Checking everyday at this place.

Although i think its time to really show some progress and release something. Do we have a final logo?

Isn´t it possible to hire some "it specialists" to make things happen faster. This is by no means meant to be insulting or critically, i just wanted to know.

+1,Group "1"
Checking this thread many times if I have free time,want to get NCC\NIS's test progress and somgthing special...

[patmast3r]

how can I enter the auction?

I will publish the auction format detail possibly later today. It is good that people know in advance how it is going to work.

Where I can get the detail?

sorry still writing because I try to finish NEM stakeholder population statistics first. Will publish auction format later today.

For the number crunchers. It is different from previous statistics that I tightened the group 2 condition. Korream did the first half of this statistics then I think he gave up so i took it up to finish the statistics today.

Group 1: veteran account at least junior member, high activity, acc openned before the fundrasing   ---> about 1205 accounts
Group 2: acc openned after January 16 but have recent activity, average >15 posts, show NEM support ---> about 645 accounts
Group 3: accounts less than 10 posts, or >10 posts but with junk posts ---> about 995 accounts  

Check your status at NEM final stakeholder list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=5

That must of taken alot of work.
What does being in a particular group equate to?

It is just statistics. On the "fun to know" category.

Wohoo! Group "1"...

...

I think your "Group 1" is a mistake as you don't satisfy "at least junior member".
It doesn't mean anything anyway but....just sayin

[Market6677]

To reach the developing and emerging markets, NEM will need mobile SMS functionality.
CoinPip is working on this. http://www.coinpip.com

quote##
Singapore-based payment processor CoinPip is introducing new payment options, allowing anyone in the world to send coins via SMS.
It integrates seamlessly with the ‘SMSwallet’ system developed by US-based 37coins, which itself is aimed at developing and emerging markets where access to smartphone and desktop PC apps is limited.
It allows consumers to pay in bitcoin via any CoinPip Merchant POS from any mobile device with SMS functionality.
Anson Zeall, co-founder of CoinPip, is planning to expand across Hong Kong and Indonesia within the next month or so.

His company’s vision is to make bitcoin and other digital currencies as safe and easy-to-use as any other form of money. He also has sights set on other regions in Southeast Asia where 3G mobile connections are limited, adding:

“The mobile market in Southeast Asia is massive but the usage of smartphones is still lagging. So QR code scanning is not that useful. Thus the collaboration with 37coins is going to make payments more convenient for everyone else.”
To begin using a 37coins bitcoin SMS wallet, mobile users simply need to visit www.37coins.com and enter a mobile number in countries where the service has been launched.
Once confirmed, the gateway can then be opened by anyone from any location and users can send and receive bitcoin from anywhere with mobile access.
CoinPip also recently launched an online API for merchants that want to accept bitcoin online and uploaded its merchant POS app to the Google Play store.
CoinPip Merchant allow merchants in some Southeast Asia region countries to accept bitcoins, and receive in their local currency. Instant exchange is available in Hong Kong and Singapore, while an on-demand exchange is available for an extra fee in Australia, China (ex Hong Kong), Indonesia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. CoinPip has plans to add more countries soon.
Where instant exchange is available, bitcoins are converted to local currency and deposited into merchants’ bank accounts daily. Users can track orders using their CoinPip account online and view transactions on an Android device. It also allows businesses to refund customers in bitcoin or local currency as required.
##
*Why not NEM? Let's work with him to add it.

New SMS Bitcoin Service Aims at Emerging Markets
http://www.coindesk.com/new-sms-bitcoin-service-aims-emerging-markets/

Kipochi integrated with Kenya-based mobile payments provider M-Pesa to allow its users to send and receive bitcoins before converting them to local currency. If you send money with your mobile number to someone, a wallet gets created in the background and you can just access it. So, there's no sign-up.

How Kipochi is Taking Bitcoin into Africa
http://www.coindesk.com/kipochi-taking-bitcoin-africa/

Bitcoin via SMS is here -Bits launches pay-by-text sms offering for bitcoins.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-via-sms-is-here/

Hi,

look at this : http://www.txtcoinsnow.com/

They have also an asset of the Nxt Asset Exchange , it is a etablished company since 2011 and they work together with nxt.

[shaman2000]

To reach the developing and emerging markets, NEM will need mobile SMS functionality.
CoinPip is working on this. http://www.coinpip.com

quote##
Singapore-based payment processor CoinPip is introducing new payment options, allowing anyone in the world to send coins via SMS.
It integrates seamlessly with the ‘SMSwallet’ system developed by US-based 37coins, which itself is aimed at developing and emerging markets where access to smartphone and desktop PC apps is limited.
It allows consumers to pay in bitcoin via any CoinPip Merchant POS from any mobile device with SMS functionality.
Anson Zeall, co-founder of CoinPip, is planning to expand across Hong Kong and Indonesia within the next month or so.

His company’s vision is to make bitcoin and other digital currencies as safe and easy-to-use as any other form of money. He also has sights set on other regions in Southeast Asia where 3G mobile connections are limited, adding:

“The mobile market in Southeast Asia is massive but the usage of smartphones is still lagging. So QR code scanning is not that useful. Thus the collaboration with 37coins is going to make payments more convenient for everyone else.”
To begin using a 37coins bitcoin SMS wallet, mobile users simply need to visit www.37coins.com and enter a mobile number in countries where the service has been launched.
Once confirmed, the gateway can then be opened by anyone from any location and users can send and receive bitcoin from anywhere with mobile access.
CoinPip also recently launched an online API for merchants that want to accept bitcoin online and uploaded its merchant POS app to the Google Play store.
CoinPip Merchant allow merchants in some Southeast Asia region countries to accept bitcoins, and receive in their local currency. Instant exchange is available in Hong Kong and Singapore, while an on-demand exchange is available for an extra fee in Australia, China (ex Hong Kong), Indonesia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. CoinPip has plans to add more countries soon.
Where instant exchange is available, bitcoins are converted to local currency and deposited into merchants’ bank accounts daily. Users can track orders using their CoinPip account online and view transactions on an Android device. It also allows businesses to refund customers in bitcoin or local currency as required.
##
*Why not NEM? Let's work with him to add it.

New SMS Bitcoin Service Aims at Emerging Markets
http://www.coindesk.com/new-sms-bitcoin-service-aims-emerging-markets/

Kipochi integrated with Kenya-based mobile payments provider M-Pesa to allow its users to send and receive bitcoins before converting them to local currency. If you send money with your mobile number to someone, a wallet gets created in the background and you can just access it. So, there's no sign-up.

How Kipochi is Taking Bitcoin into Africa
http://www.coindesk.com/kipochi-taking-bitcoin-africa/

Bitcoin via SMS is here -Bits launches pay-by-text sms offering for bitcoins.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-via-sms-is-here/

Absolutely agree-It will be very good to have mobile SMS functionality for NEM!

[dwma]

If NEM could create a system to transfer small amounts of NEM via SMS that would be the greatest ever.  Just make sure it only works with small amounts etc.  I don't know how other services do it, but if it can be done, then NEM really really needs to consider it.

All this asset exchange type features are not going to do anything for NEM at this point.  NEM needs to start out attacking different markets.  Small payments via SMS would be great.  If you keep the amounts small then it should help mitigate security issues.

[kggservices]

You can check out Txt Coins now

Information is on there Website  you can Call  +1 (954) 320-6484 and setup an account or you can go on the website www.txtcoinsnow.com top right corner click register

With TXT Coins Now users do not need to register online also its had 4 years development so it's way ahead in features and services they are adding crypto wallets and some new features and launching in July they are very open to working with service providers from all areas

"there is no fiat or crypto currency added so the function of balance will not show due to people asking to load there accounts" its setup for people to pre-register currently"

TXT Cash Now Company corporation was started in 2011 in the state of delaware USA

[nxtvisa]

If NEM could create a system to transfer small amounts of NEM via SMS that would be the greatest ever.  Just make sure it only works with small amounts etc.  I don't know how other services do it, but if it can be done, then NEM really really needs to consider it.

All this asset exchange type features are not going to do anything for NEM at this point.  NEM needs to start out attacking different markets.  Small payments via SMS would be great.  If you keep the amounts small then it should help mitigate security issues.

+1，agree.
But these functions should be used as part of the ecosystem,now  dev should be  foucus alpha  test  and Launch...

[Market6677]

You can check out Txt Coins now

Information is on there Website  you can Call  +1 (954) 320-6484 and setup an account or you can go on the website www.txtcoinsnow.com top right corner click register

With TXT Coins Now users do not need to register online also its had 4 years development so it's way ahead in features and services they are adding crypto wallets and some new features and launching in July they are very open to working with service providers from all areas

"there is no fiat or crypto currency added so the function of balance will not show due to people asking to load there accounts" its setup for people to pre-register currently"

TXT Cash Now Company corporation was started in 2011 in the state of delaware USA

take contact to this guy!

[nonlinearboy]

hi, it is over to join in?
I have received the Invitation ,but ignore by some reason.
can I join in now?

Its never too late to get in NEM. 
You'll got a good chance to buy some cheap NEM after its release.
But atm there is no fix point in time.

So please be patient.

I prefer to join in the IPO, in fact,can't wait to get in the great project.

[nxtvisa]

hi, it is over to join in?
I have received the Invitation ,but ignore by some reason.
can I join in now?

Its never too late to get in NEM. 
You'll got a good chance to buy some cheap NEM after its release.
But atm there is no fix point in time.

So please be patient.

I prefer to join in the IPO, in fact,can't wait to get in the great project.

no IPO. details:
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2175.msg2431#msg2431

[nonlinearboy]

hi, it is over to join in?
I have received the Invitation ,but ignore by some reason.
can I join in now?

Its never too late to get in NEM. 
You'll got a good chance to buy some cheap NEM after its release.
But atm there is no fix point in time.

So please be patient.

I prefer to join in the IPO, in fact,can't wait to get in the great project.

no IPO. details:
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2175.msg2431#msg2431

it is really pity to miss the train, I will wait for the auction.

[FuckJapan]

dev,We are waiting for you.NEM will be popular.i think it would be a success project.

logo okaynow by futureutopian, on Flickr

NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT

Financial Freedom - Decentralization - Egalitarian Crypto
Proof of Importance - Decentralized Exchange - Secure Messaging

NEM - development team

See the current core team in our development plan https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NhxTyi4Eo2D_1m1Ca8zvzQr0_RB0dgM2VuWXAIzcS-I/edit
Names are BTT accounts, please contact UtopianFuture or other individual team members if you have a question.

A note on organization:

We believe the NEM's core principles of fairness and equality will attract many other talented developers and helpers. So while all of us are committed to NEM, we would welcome others developers/ helpers to join us and make NEM a success.

NEM website: http://www.ournem.com/
NEM first development plan https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NhxTyi4Eo2D_1m1Ca8zvzQr0_RB0dgM2VuWXAIzcS-I/edit
NEM promotion board https://trello.com/b/GEWEPSZJ/nem-promotion ; Please contact UtopianFuture to join in.
NEM reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/nem/
NEM facebookpage : https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM
NEM forum http://forum.nemcoin.com
NEM twitter: https://twitter.com/nemcoin

NEM final stakeholder list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=10

NEM refund, change account, other complaints thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612105.msg6770626#msg6770626

Join us to make a better world.

History of the fundraising: NEM started with a call for active participants to join a new decentralized network movement. The fundraising was designed to promote fairness and egalitarianism with the principle of 1 account/ 1 stake. Our goal is to spread NEM widely and equally to many people (but not perfectly equal). Please see the history of fundraising in these two threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.0

Please see our development plan for the details of NEM's features. NEM's code bases are written completely from the scratch. NEM plans to combine the best features of Bitcoin and NXT system plus its own innovations. Highlight innovations of NEMcoin decentralized network includes:

+ Unlike Bitcoin and other mining coins, all NEM would be distributed at the genesis block. NEM stakeholders are its own network nodes which verify the transactions and protect the network following a hybrid of Proof of Stake/ Proof of Importance forging mechanism. This type of distribution eliminates the need to have a mining industry which is an external force that imposes a huge cost to Bitcoin and other POW networks. The computational arm-race is avoided by using the hybrid of Proof of Stake/ Proof of Importance forging mechanism.

+ A novel method Proof of Importance forging that rewards the nodes that re most important to the network, not the nodes with the biggest number of NEM.

+ Support for colored coin implementation and the asset exchange is designed in the beginning with advanced features such as automatic settlement, assets listed with an expiration date. NEM focuses on the usability of the asset exchange to make them the premier platform for fundraising, asset listing, token issuing etc.

+ Secure messages for contract storage.

V1 blockchain plans to include all these above features, while more advanced features such as parallel blockchains, reputation system are in discussion and will be included in V2 blockchain in later dates.  

NEM videos :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2cNKqH-4Wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNeM94ZOZM&feature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/85859058

FAQ:

1. How many shares of NEM would I get ?

There is no specific number yet. Our current formula is number of NEM per stake spot = total of NEM issued/ (total account stakes + development stakes). At the moment we are aiming for roughly 3000 accounts plus 5-10% development stake, but it could be more, could be less depending on the fund raising.

2. What is the difference between regular stakes and development stakes ?

No difference except that development stakes are reserved for NEM developers/ helpers and they can use their regular accounts for these stakes.

3. How can I get my shares ?

You will need to access your BTT account to send a PM or make a post confirming the ownership of the account to claim your share. Detail instructions in an announcement will be posted here, NEM reddit, NEM facebook, ournem website and the announcement will last at least 5 days. It is your responsibility to read and follow the instructions to claim your shares. So please check back frequently. Thanks.

Updates

1/19 : the fundraising began
2/17 : the fundraising first phase ended  
update 2/17 : plans ahead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5206938#msg5206938
update 2/19 : an unified stake holder list would be made on 2/22 which is three days from today. You need to file a complaint in the stake complaint thread by that day if you think you are a stakeholder but you are not on the list or on the list without Y.
update 2/21 : waiting list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.msg5159558#msg5159558
update 2/24 : what is stakeholder list public auditing ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5338775#msg5338775; unified stakeholder list published (check the link above)
update 3/2 : the stakeholder list public auditing begins. Read the rules here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=496112.msg5463089#msg5463089
update 3/10: a short update on coding progress https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5615748#msg5615748
update 3/10: logo committee is formed.
update 3/12: looking for a UI/ UX designer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5662029#msg5662029
update 3/12: future plans explained https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5668983#msg5668983
update 3/29: development update https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5973475#msg5973475
update 4/10: waiting list is closed. NEM fundraising is now officially closed
update 4/18: final stakeholder list published and some allocation details. Somehow the post was deleted, I will write a more fully announcement later on. In the meantime Check this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6276789#msg6276789
update 4/29: marketing manager position open https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6458760#msg6458760
update 5/1: small update https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6491667#msg6491667 ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6490600#msg6490600
update 5/10: update + final stakeholder list release https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6664079#msg6664079

[gimre]

dev,We are waiting for you.NEM will be popular.i think it would be a success project.

What made you thinking, that pasting first post is good idea?

[Swalters]

has any one any experience with code academy? and when it comes to cryptos.. whats the best language to learn? iv done a good bit in jave but not a massive amount. so would it be best to continue with java?

The Digi-Key Continuing Education Center has a series of 45-minute online lessons and if you can't attend a course live, the seminars are archived. They have classes for Arduino, embedded Android networking, embedded Linux, etc.., most are hardware based. You also earn IEEE Professional Development Hours for each course.

A free C++ lecture for the self-learners.

Programming Embedded Systems in C++
Monday, May 19 - Friday, May 23

www.designnews.com/lecture-calendar.asp

[helloge]

how can I enter the auction?

I will publish the auction format detail possibly later today. It is good that people know in advance how it is going to work.

Where I can get the detail?

sorry still writing because I try to finish NEM stakeholder population statistics first. Will publish auction format later today.

For the number crunchers. It is different from previous statistics that I tightened the group 2 condition. Korream did the first half of this statistics then I think he gave up so i took it up to finish the statistics today.

Group 1: veteran account at least junior member, high activity, acc openned before the fundrasing   ---> about 1205 accounts
Group 2: acc openned after January 16 but have recent activity, average >15 posts, show NEM support ---> about 645 accounts
Group 3: accounts less than 10 posts, or >10 posts but with junk posts ---> about 995 accounts  

Check your status at NEM final stakeholder list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=5

thanks for your work of analysis.

[mr smith]

has any one any experience with code academy? and when it comes to cryptos.. whats the best language to learn? iv done a good bit in jave but not a massive amount. so would it be best to continue with java?

The Digi-Key Continuing Education Center has a series of 45-minute online lessons and if you can't attend a course live, the seminars are archived. They have classes for Arduino, embedded Android networking, embedded Linux, etc.., most are hardware based. You also earn IEEE Professional Development Hours for each course.

A free C++ lecture for the self-learners.

Programming Embedded Systems in C++
Monday, May 19 - Friday, May 23

www.designnews.com/lecture-calendar.asp

Do you think my advanced coding skills are up to it !

10 Print "NEM is a No Envy Movement"
20 Print "Some say our leaders name begins with Satoshi"
30 Print "Some say his name ends with Nakamoto"
40 print "But we call him UP"
50 goto 10