madbit1000
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March 20, 2014, 09:50:05 AM |
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What has made this coin all of a sudden pick up. I am lost.. did i miss something.
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tavirosu
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March 20, 2014, 09:57:35 AM |
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Just thought I would post this calculation to show why I believe GPUC will be a success and will be used by people who haven't even mined any.
I pulled all the figures off crypto-rush exchange about 20 mins ago.
So lets say you have only just heard of GPUC and your balance is at 0
Current BTC price is around $600
According to the front page the selling price of a R9 280x will be $480 which is 0.8 BTC
At the current price of 0.00000029 you will need 2,758,620 GPUC to purchase a 280x
As the price is going to be directly linked to the exchange, as the price in GPUC/BTC goes up the amount of GPUC you will need comes down.
Buy 323,814.75 GPUC at 0.00000029 = 0.09390268 BTC Buy 137,152 GPUC at 0.00000030 = 0.04114560 BTC Buy 50,000 GPUC at 0.00000031 = 0.01550000 BTC Buy 30,000 GPUC at 0.00000033 = 0.00990000 BTC Buy 100,964.12 GPUC at 0.00000034 = 0.03432780 BTC Buy 502,354.18 GPUC at 0.00000035 = 0.17582397 BTC Buy 667,799.73 GPUC at 0.00000036 = 0.24.4.790 BTC Buy 25,820.54 GPUC at 0.00000037 = 0.00955360 BTC Buy 35,000 GPUC at 0.00000038 = 0.01330000 BTC Buy 58,240 GPUC at 0.00000039 = 0.002271393 BTC
Now as you have pushed the price up to 0.00000039 you will only need a total of 2,000,000 GPUC at 0.00000040 to purchase a 280x
Buy 68,853.85 GPU at 0.00000040 = 0.02754154 BTC
So you now have a total of 2,000,000 GPUC enough to purchase your 280x
Where this gets interesting is when you add up how much it has cost you in BTC to purchase those 2,000,000
you will need to spend 0.6636 BTC which is roughly $398 that's $82 cheaper than if you bought from the store directly in $
This is only an example, and once things get up and running properly, there will be more volume on the exchange, and you may only push the price from say 0.00000029 up to 0.00000034 to get you desired amount of GPUC but the same principle applies.
There is a flaw, in that the price will only go up to a level that is equal to the price of a gpu or less. otherwise people will just go and pay for one with cash.. So the price can only go so high any more and people will be throwing away money.. Given that the shop haven't announced any prices yet, still to early, people can push the price as much as they can. The sell order has very small ammount, if mining adjust and keeps going high all the early miners and investors will make a heftly profit. Until the first batch of sales goes out the market is runned by the miners/traders, after that the GPUC Company will have the coins to dump into the market. And for them to make a profit as a company they would have to dump at a higher price then what they charged for the coin so even then the price must go up. Overall think of it just like whole blackcoin multipool, the shop will make it so the buyorders will always be there and any dumps in price can and will be addressed because of the market.
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SP4RK7
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March 20, 2014, 10:24:53 AM |
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Just thought I would post this calculation to show why I believe GPUC will be a success and will be used by people who haven't even mined any.
I pulled all the figures off crypto-rush exchange about 20 mins ago.
So lets say you have only just heard of GPUC and your balance is at 0
Current BTC price is around $600
According to the front page the selling price of a R9 280x will be $480 which is 0.8 BTC
At the current price of 0.00000029 you will need 2,758,620 GPUC to purchase a 280x
As the price is going to be directly linked to the exchange, as the price in GPUC/BTC goes up the amount of GPUC you will need comes down.
Buy 323,814.75 GPUC at 0.00000029 = 0.09390268 BTC Buy 137,152 GPUC at 0.00000030 = 0.04114560 BTC Buy 50,000 GPUC at 0.00000031 = 0.01550000 BTC Buy 30,000 GPUC at 0.00000033 = 0.00990000 BTC Buy 100,964.12 GPUC at 0.00000034 = 0.03432780 BTC Buy 502,354.18 GPUC at 0.00000035 = 0.17582397 BTC Buy 667,799.73 GPUC at 0.00000036 = 0.24.4.790 BTC Buy 25,820.54 GPUC at 0.00000037 = 0.00955360 BTC Buy 35,000 GPUC at 0.00000038 = 0.01330000 BTC Buy 58,240 GPUC at 0.00000039 = 0.002271393 BTC
Now as you have pushed the price up to 0.00000039 you will only need a total of 2,000,000 GPUC at 0.00000040 to purchase a 280x
Buy 68,853.85 GPU at 0.00000040 = 0.02754154 BTC
So you now have a total of 2,000,000 GPUC enough to purchase your 280x
Where this gets interesting is when you add up how much it has cost you in BTC to purchase those 2,000,000
you will need to spend 0.6636 BTC which is roughly $398 that's $82 cheaper than if you bought from the store directly in $
This is only an example, and once things get up and running properly, there will be more volume on the exchange, and you may only push the price from say 0.00000029 up to 0.00000034 to get you desired amount of GPUC but the same principle applies.
There is a flaw, in that the price will only go up to a level that is equal to the price of a gpu or less. otherwise people will just go and pay for one with cash.. So the price can only go so high any more and people will be throwing away money.. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Surely the price of GPUC can go to whatever the market pushes it to. If in the unlikely event it went up to say 0.001 BTC you would then need only 800 GPUC to purchase a 280x using the above figures. 800 x 0.001 = 0.8 BTC you would never pay more than what the graphics card is worth BTC/GPUC/$ value
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March 20, 2014, 10:26:34 AM |
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New P2Pool address: stratum+tcp://international.servehttp.com:9404 Username: your GPUCoin address Passoword: Does not matter, anything! Status p2pool: http://international.servehttp.com:9404/static/status3/Recommended Settings: cgminer -o stratum+tcp://international.servehttp.com:25490 -u YourSpaincoinAddress -p x --expiry 1 --scan-time 1 --queue 0 P2Pool shares expire within 10 seconds, this is why you see "stratum requesting work restart" so often To reduce stales, reduce your intensity. The payouts are higher when keeping intensity below 18 due to more accepted shares.
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SP4RK7
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March 20, 2014, 10:36:30 AM |
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Just thought I would post this calculation to show why I believe GPUC will be a success and will be used by people who haven't even mined any.
I pulled all the figures off crypto-rush exchange about 20 mins ago.
So lets say you have only just heard of GPUC and your balance is at 0
Current BTC price is around $600
According to the front page the selling price of a R9 280x will be $480 which is 0.8 BTC
At the current price of 0.00000029 you will need 2,758,620 GPUC to purchase a 280x
As the price is going to be directly linked to the exchange, as the price in GPUC/BTC goes up the amount of GPUC you will need comes down.
Buy 323,814.75 GPUC at 0.00000029 = 0.09390268 BTC Buy 137,152 GPUC at 0.00000030 = 0.04114560 BTC Buy 50,000 GPUC at 0.00000031 = 0.01550000 BTC Buy 30,000 GPUC at 0.00000033 = 0.00990000 BTC Buy 100,964.12 GPUC at 0.00000034 = 0.03432780 BTC Buy 502,354.18 GPUC at 0.00000035 = 0.17582397 BTC Buy 667,799.73 GPUC at 0.00000036 = 0.24.4.790 BTC Buy 25,820.54 GPUC at 0.00000037 = 0.00955360 BTC Buy 35,000 GPUC at 0.00000038 = 0.01330000 BTC Buy 58,240 GPUC at 0.00000039 = 0.002271393 BTC
Now as you have pushed the price up to 0.00000039 you will only need a total of 2,000,000 GPUC at 0.00000040 to purchase a 280x
Buy 68,853.85 GPU at 0.00000040 = 0.02754154 BTC
So you now have a total of 2,000,000 GPUC enough to purchase your 280x
Where this gets interesting is when you add up how much it has cost you in BTC to purchase those 2,000,000
you will need to spend 0.6636 BTC which is roughly $398 that's $82 cheaper than if you bought from the store directly in $
This is only an example, and once things get up and running properly, there will be more volume on the exchange, and you may only push the price from say 0.00000029 up to 0.00000034 to get you desired amount of GPUC but the same principle applies.
There is a flaw, in that the price will only go up to a level that is equal to the price of a gpu or less. otherwise people will just go and pay for one with cash.. So the price can only go so high any more and people will be throwing away money.. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Surely the price of GPUC can go to whatever the market pushes it to. If in the unlikely event it went up to say 0.001 BTC you would then need only 800 GPUC to purchase a 280x using the above figures. 800 x 0.001 = 0.8 BTC you would never pay more than what the graphics card is worth BTC/GPUC/$ value Ok, look at it like this. Why buy gpucoin? to get a gpu, am i right.. or am i wrong.. If i am wrong and the people buy just because they want to make money on the coin, buying and selling the coins, then we will could still see a steep rise. But i have doubts, because if people know what the coin is being used for purchasing the gpu's then they would not buy coins that work out more expensive than buying one in a store.. Where are you getting more expensive than in a store from? As I posted in the calculation using those figures (which may not be accurate as far as the $ sale price of a 280x) You are getting a $480 graphics card for $398 If when the shop front opens the sale price in $ of a 280x has come down to say $400 then you would get one for about $320
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tavirosu
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March 20, 2014, 10:41:13 AM |
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Just thought I would post this calculation to show why I believe GPUC will be a success and will be used by people who haven't even mined any.
I pulled all the figures off crypto-rush exchange about 20 mins ago.
So lets say you have only just heard of GPUC and your balance is at 0
Current BTC price is around $600
According to the front page the selling price of a R9 280x will be $480 which is 0.8 BTC
At the current price of 0.00000029 you will need 2,758,620 GPUC to purchase a 280x
As the price is going to be directly linked to the exchange, as the price in GPUC/BTC goes up the amount of GPUC you will need comes down.
Buy 323,814.75 GPUC at 0.00000029 = 0.09390268 BTC Buy 137,152 GPUC at 0.00000030 = 0.04114560 BTC Buy 50,000 GPUC at 0.00000031 = 0.01550000 BTC Buy 30,000 GPUC at 0.00000033 = 0.00990000 BTC Buy 100,964.12 GPUC at 0.00000034 = 0.03432780 BTC Buy 502,354.18 GPUC at 0.00000035 = 0.17582397 BTC Buy 667,799.73 GPUC at 0.00000036 = 0.24.4.790 BTC Buy 25,820.54 GPUC at 0.00000037 = 0.00955360 BTC Buy 35,000 GPUC at 0.00000038 = 0.01330000 BTC Buy 58,240 GPUC at 0.00000039 = 0.002271393 BTC
Now as you have pushed the price up to 0.00000039 you will only need a total of 2,000,000 GPUC at 0.00000040 to purchase a 280x
Buy 68,853.85 GPU at 0.00000040 = 0.02754154 BTC
So you now have a total of 2,000,000 GPUC enough to purchase your 280x
Where this gets interesting is when you add up how much it has cost you in BTC to purchase those 2,000,000
you will need to spend 0.6636 BTC which is roughly $398 that's $82 cheaper than if you bought from the store directly in $
This is only an example, and once things get up and running properly, there will be more volume on the exchange, and you may only push the price from say 0.00000029 up to 0.00000034 to get you desired amount of GPUC but the same principle applies.
There is a flaw, in that the price will only go up to a level that is equal to the price of a gpu or less. otherwise people will just go and pay for one with cash.. So the price can only go so high any more and people will be throwing away money.. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Surely the price of GPUC can go to whatever the market pushes it to. If in the unlikely event it went up to say 0.001 BTC you would then need only 800 GPUC to purchase a 280x using the above figures. 800 x 0.001 = 0.8 BTC you would never pay more than what the graphics card is worth BTC/GPUC/$ value Ok, look at it like this. Why buy gpucoin? to get a gpu, am i right.. or am i wrong.. If i am wrong and the people buy just because they want to make money on the coin, buying and selling the coins, then we will could still see a steep rise. But i have doubts, because if people know what the coin is being used for purchasing the gpu's then they would not buy coins that work out more expensive than buying one in a store.. Where are you getting more expensive than in a store from? As I posted in the calculation using those figures (which may not be accurate as far as the $ sale price of a 280x) You are getting a $480 graphics card for $398 If when the shop front opens the sale price in $ of a 280x has come down to say $400 then you would get one for about $320 Indeed, just like any other crypto coin, if you had X ammount or bought low before and the price goes up you are making profit. Applied to this coin and means in the end that profit can get transformed into getting a graphic card at a lower then regular price.
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madbit1000
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March 20, 2014, 10:43:49 AM Last edit: March 20, 2014, 11:59:02 AM by madbit1000 |
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Just thought I would post this calculation to show why I believe GPUC will be a success and will be used by people who haven't even mined any.
I pulled all the figures off crypto-rush exchange about 20 mins ago.
So lets say you have only just heard of GPUC and your balance is at 0
Current BTC price is around $600
According to the front page the selling price of a R9 280x will be $480 which is 0.8 BTC
At the current price of 0.00000029 you will need 2,758,620 GPUC to purchase a 280x
As the price is going to be directly linked to the exchange, as the price in GPUC/BTC goes up the amount of GPUC you will need comes down.
Buy 323,814.75 GPUC at 0.00000029 = 0.09390268 BTC Buy 137,152 GPUC at 0.00000030 = 0.04114560 BTC Buy 50,000 GPUC at 0.00000031 = 0.01550000 BTC Buy 30,000 GPUC at 0.00000033 = 0.00990000 BTC Buy 100,964.12 GPUC at 0.00000034 = 0.03432780 BTC Buy 502,354.18 GPUC at 0.00000035 = 0.17582397 BTC Buy 667,799.73 GPUC at 0.00000036 = 0.24.4.790 BTC Buy 25,820.54 GPUC at 0.00000037 = 0.00955360 BTC Buy 35,000 GPUC at 0.00000038 = 0.01330000 BTC Buy 58,240 GPUC at 0.00000039 = 0.002271393 BTC
Now as you have pushed the price up to 0.00000039 you will only need a total of 2,000,000 GPUC at 0.00000040 to purchase a 280x
Buy 68,853.85 GPU at 0.00000040 = 0.02754154 BTC
So you now have a total of 2,000,000 GPUC enough to purchase your 280x
Where this gets interesting is when you add up how much it has cost you in BTC to purchase those 2,000,000
you will need to spend 0.6636 BTC which is roughly $398 that's $82 cheaper than if you bought from the store directly in $
This is only an example, and once things get up and running properly, there will be more volume on the exchange, and you may only push the price from say 0.00000029 up to 0.00000034 to get you desired amount of GPUC but the same principle applies.
There is a flaw, in that the price will only go up to a level that is equal to the price of a gpu or less. otherwise people will just go and pay for one with cash.. So the price can only go so high any more and people will be throwing away money.. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Surely the price of GPUC can go to whatever the market pushes it to. If in the unlikely event it went up to say 0.001 BTC you would then need only 800 GPUC to purchase a 280x using the above figures. 800 x 0.001 = 0.8 BTC you would never pay more than what the graphics card is worth BTC/GPUC/$ value Ok, look at it like this. Why buy gpucoin? to get a gpu, am i right.. or am i wrong.. If i am wrong and the people buy just because they want to make money on the coin, buying and selling the coins, then we will could still see a steep rise. But i have doubts, because if people know what the coin is being used for purchasing the gpu's then they would not buy coins that work out more expensive than buying one in a store.. Where are you getting more expensive than in a store from? As I posted in the calculation using those figures (which may not be accurate as far as the $ sale price of a 280x) You are getting a $480 graphics card for $398 If when the shop front opens the sale price in $ of a 280x has come down to say $400 then you would get one for about $320 Your missing the point, you are looking at this from a sellers perspective and as a miner and not a buyers perspective, which is important as this will determine the price not the sellers.. As i said before the price on the exchange is only governed by what people will pay, Yes.. Then why would the price rise any higher than what it costs me to buy one in the shops with cash. Meaning why waste my time buying GPU coins that will be the same price as they are to purchase a gpu in the shops. Whatever gpu coin sells their gpus for, this makes no difference unless someone can buy the coins when the price is low and sell high. etc.. The price of gpucoin will be going up and down all day long.. But will never go any higher than the price of a gpu in the stores. As people will simply spend their money on one from a store or from gpucoin themselves. The price is irrelevant cancels itself out.. Unless they have something else of a higher value than the gpus. Price has just risen to 0.00000044 by the way. In fact as the coins become harder to mine, less people will want to bother. And the whole idea will just fizzle out. Now, i could be completely off track here and would like someone to correct me where possible if they think i am incorrect. I wish GPU coin every success as i am an IPO member myself i want to gain from this coin. But when you mentioned the price structure above, something made me realise they MAY have problems as it currently stands.
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NickPortland
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March 20, 2014, 11:46:49 AM |
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I thought GPU prices were gonna be whatever the market equivalent in GPUc was?
Or has that been changed?
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March 20, 2014, 12:02:19 PM |
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*MONEY NUMBER QUOTES*
*ANOTHER QUOTE* *QUOTE* *OH GOD, THE QUOTE HORROR* *SO MANY QUOTES *INSERT MORE QUOTE* Regardless of whether I feel GPUC is gonna skyrocket or crash, I can see why the idea behind this coin lends itself to price increases. ASSUMPTIONS: 1) That the prices of the store are updated regularly, but not instantaneously to the market price of GPU/USD (via BTC) 2) No-one is gonna pay more than USD value of a graphics card from another store (though that can only actually increase the value faster than this theory). 3) That people are fairly secure that they'll actually get their GPUs Let's say that a GPU costs $500, and GPU Coin's store is selling for $400 (an extreme example of the discount, but round numbers are easy) based on the initial market value of GPUC. And say (theoretically) that at the time the GPUC/USD is 100k = $400. People are gonna want to buy GPUs with GPU coin. Simple money equation. Why spend more? BUT, because everyone wants to buy GPUC to get these GPUS, prices are gonna slowly push up. Which is fine for the buyers, until it hits $500 per 100k GPUC. So say that it gets to about $450 per 100k GPUC before they change the store prices to reflect what they've set. Now it's back to $400. Repeat process ad infinitum. Now I'm PRETTY SURE that the whole quote war above is ignoring the whole "will adjust prices to reflect market equivalence" not being a one off when the store launches.
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March 20, 2014, 12:08:58 PM |
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now that newegg is selling 280x's for $300 and 290 tri-X's for $500 will the gpus at the webstore be any cheaper than they are in the op?
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March 20, 2014, 12:27:37 PM |
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now that newegg is selling 280x's for $300 and 290 tri-X's for $500 will the gpus at the webstore be any cheaper than they are in the op?
you know that a store needs to make a profit, don't you ? (and selling below the price you pay for it is pretty bad... have no idea what is the profit made over a card, but I am pretty sure it is not that much...)
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tavirosu
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March 20, 2014, 12:52:54 PM |
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BUT, because everyone wants to buy GPUC to get these GPUS, prices are gonna slowly push up. Which is fine for the buyers, until it hits $500 per 100k GPUC. So say that it gets to about $450 per 100k GPUC before they change the store prices to reflect what they've set. Now it's back to $400. Repeat process ad infinitum.
Now I'm PRETTY SURE that the whole quote war above is ignoring the whole "will adjust prices to reflect market equivalence" not being a one off when the store launches.
That's a good analysis but keep in mind that the GPUCoin store will sell the coins form the purchase after they recieve them, at a much higher price. And if they play it smart and sell the coins in small chucks so the market can buy them then they will earn way more. Like purchase price 40 sat but when they unload the coins the price might be 42, 45, 50 sat, prices where they make an instant profit!
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madbit1000
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March 20, 2014, 01:21:46 PM |
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now that newegg is selling 280x's for $300 and 290 tri-X's for $500 will the gpus at the webstore be any cheaper than they are in the op?
Exactly, but i hope i am wrong about my thoughts and GPU coins does something completely different. Exciting times. Keep up the good work GPUcoin Team.. I will still be here all the way with you.
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March 20, 2014, 01:26:20 PM |
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BUT, because everyone wants to buy GPUC to get these GPUS, prices are gonna slowly push up. Which is fine for the buyers, until it hits $500 per 100k GPUC. So say that it gets to about $450 per 100k GPUC before they change the store prices to reflect what they've set. Now it's back to $400. Repeat process ad infinitum.
Now I'm PRETTY SURE that the whole quote war above is ignoring the whole "will adjust prices to reflect market equivalence" not being a one off when the store launches.
That's a good analysis but keep in mind that the GPUCoin store will sell the coins form the purchase after they recieve them, at a much higher price. And if they play it smart and sell the coins in small chucks so the market can buy them then they will earn way more. Like purchase price 40 sat but when they unload the coins the price might be 42, 45, 50 sat, prices where they make an instant profit! That didn't really occur to me. I like when upper management has incentives similar to investors to raise the price
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March 20, 2014, 01:31:46 PM |
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BUT, because everyone wants to buy GPUC to get these GPUS, prices are gonna slowly push up. Which is fine for the buyers, until it hits $500 per 100k GPUC. So say that it gets to about $450 per 100k GPUC before they change the store prices to reflect what they've set. Now it's back to $400. Repeat process ad infinitum.
Now I'm PRETTY SURE that the whole quote war above is ignoring the whole "will adjust prices to reflect market equivalence" not being a one off when the store launches.
That's a good analysis but keep in mind that the GPUCoin store will sell the coins form the purchase after they recieve them, at a much higher price. And if they play it smart and sell the coins in small chucks so the market can buy them then they will earn way more. Like purchase price 40 sat but when they unload the coins the price might be 42, 45, 50 sat, prices where they make an instant profit! That didn't really occur to me. I like when upper management has incentives similar to investors to raise the price I'm not speaking for them official but that seems a very logical method. A dump method is way less profitable tbh...
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Lordoftherigs
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March 20, 2014, 01:46:22 PM |
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How about making a site with used GPUs that you can only buy with GPUcoin ?
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March 20, 2014, 02:01:09 PM |
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Just bought another 1.25 btc of GPUcoin @ 35sats - this coin is looking great!
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madbit1000
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March 20, 2014, 02:12:49 PM |
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Not sure if the devs know, but spoke to coinmarketcap and they said the issue with the GPU coin on their site is: 'The coins's block explorer is malfunctioning': http://explorer2.sancrypto.info/chain/GPUCoin/q/totalbc …
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waldistons
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March 20, 2014, 02:48:52 PM |
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How about making a site with used GPUs that you can only buy with GPUcoin ? I would DEFINITELY buy as I have only like 15K coins
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