[ANN][POOL] Mining Pool Hub - Multipool. Multialgo, Auto Exchange to any coin.

[Xardas2014]

What does this balance mean?

Coin    Credited    Credited for Auto Exchange    On Exchange    
Adzcoin    0    0 (300.41800833)    0    Manage Wallet
Bitcoin    0.00593506    0    0    Manage Wallet
Ethereum    0    0    0.00000835    Manage Wallet
Feathercoin    0    0 (69.37051846)    0    Manage Wallet
Gamecredits    0    0 (14.29643876)    11.69358219    Manage Wallet
Geocoin    0    3.49034323    0    Manage Wallet
Sexcoin    0    0 (9.40005832)    1,309.10280731    Manage Wallet
Verge-Scrypt    0    0    636.25196676    Manage Wallet

coins in (  ) are coins recently mined that will go to exchange once they confirm. Those already on exchange are just waiting to be sold. Once sold it take a bit of time for the money to come back to the pool and get sent to your btc wallet(if you are exchanging coins for btc for example)

So the difference between those in bracket and those outside brackets are just when they are mined. I see. If I want to know the amount of bitcoin I truly owned I just multiply all the numbers with the price.

For example, I have 9.4 + 1309.1 sexcoin. I don't have to care whether the coins are in bracket or not. Is that true? The btc equivalent is just the current price of sexcoin times that number.

That would give you a ballpark btc estimate, but keep in mind coin prices can change dramatically, up or down, between the time they are mined and when they actually hit the exchange to be sold. Still, it would give you a rough estimate of the btc value.

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[pornluver]

I am using mining pool miner

powershell -version 5.0 -noexit -executionpolicy bypass -windowstyle maximized -command "&.\multipoolminer.ps1 -username pornluver -workername multipoolminer -interval 60 -location europe -ssl -type amd,nvidia,cpu -algorithm cryptonight,ethash,equihash,lyra2z -poolname miningpoolhub -currency btc,usd -donate 0"


What can I do so that more algorithm is considered?

I noticed that miningpoolminer also test dual claymore. Where do we set that up?

I was told I am going to make $2.67 per day.

Miner                                              btc     usd
-----                                              ---     ---
MultiPoolMiner                                     0.00266 2.67957
{ClaymoreDual40-Ethash/Sia, CpuminerLyra2z-Lyra2z} 0.00276 2.78287

I am using rx 480. Whattomine says I should be doing 29 MB/s

Yet I am doing only 24mb/s

What's wrong?

[miningpoolhub]

I noticed ethereum pool luck stabilizes around 88% instead of 100% which seems too good to be true. Is there an explanation for this?

There's two reasons.

1. historical reason about error correction.
At early days of ethereum mining, eth-proxy tool was the de-facto mandatory thing at mining.
Everyone used that proxy tool to mine because it was efficient than direct rpc port mining. But eth-proxy was not ideal still which used local polling with 2 seconds interval.

This lead to nearly 10% difference between actual pool hashrate and miner's hashrate.
So submitted share's hashrate was 20Mh at pool, but actual miner's console output was 22Mh.
That difference was about 9~11%.
Pool had to use some error correction to match their hashrate at that time. Most pool applied it also AFAIK.
miningpoolhub also announced about error correction and underlying reasons about it about one year ago.

Time has passed and things are resolved as most miners are using stratum protocol now.
This is why most miners are seeing 10% increase of their hashrate at pool. Also their actual daily earning estimate is +10% of what Pool page shows.
I may announce to removing error correction one day, but hesitated to apply it because it's related to statistics.
Miner would see drastic difference at block page and they will say that pool's luck had dropped much.
Yeah, someday I'll apply it.

So this tells that 88% is actually near 98%.


2. Ethereum's uncle block.
Ethereum's expected block finding is quite different in reality because of uncle blocks.
Pool find more than expected because ethereum confirms even late shares as well.

Instead of 5ETH, there's some blocks with lower reward blocks. It's about 4~15% of total blocks.
You can see uncle rate from here.
https://etherchain.org/statistics/miners

As miningpoolhub generates even with 6-level late shares, I believe miningpoolhub is one of the good pools generating uncle blocks.
Higher uncle rate is not bad. It means something is wrong when uncle rate is too high but it also means that pool found more blocks that could be lost.
I think it's okay when uncle rate is under 15%.

Anyway, this uncle block thing is making statistics as a bit lucky because it only counts block numbers. It doesn't care about whether it's uncle or not.




I hope I explained all in detail.
Don't hesitate if you have questions still.
Thanks.

[miningpoolhub]

Dude,

Check this screenshot

For scrypt algorithm it is FAR more profitable to mine gamecredit or sex coin.

Yet,



see what hub.multipoolhub.com choose

You kidding me?

It has to find a coin first; if it just kept switching then nobody would get anything.

What do you mean that it has to find a coin first? Does it mean that multihub will get stuck at that low coins before it moves on to other coins? Also how does the actual number on BTC/Ghzday is computed.

You can see clearly that the gamecoins is 10 times more profitable and yet for quite a while multihub get stuck in less profitable coin. I see absolutely no excuse for this except that the number is actually wrong. Perhaps the coin with lower BTC/Ghzday is actually more profitable but due to short luck multipoohub didn't find any coins there.

Will that number go up if multipoolhub just found a coin and drop when no body find any coins for a long time?

Does this make multipoolhub vulnerable to pool hoping?

First... it's not multipoolhub. It's miningpoolhub.  

BTC/Gh/Day is computed by target (difficulty level thing) which is provided from wallet itself.
I think you can find the formula from website.

miningpoolhub is not vulnerable to pool hoping because pool uses pplns. I suggest you to try if you want.

[miningpoolhub]

What does this balance mean?

Coin    Credited    Credited for Auto Exchange    On Exchange    
Adzcoin    0    0 (300.41800833)    0    Manage Wallet
Bitcoin    0.00593506    0    0    Manage Wallet
Ethereum    0    0    0.00000835    Manage Wallet
Feathercoin    0    0 (69.37051846)    0    Manage Wallet
Gamecredits    0    0 (14.29643876)    11.69358219    Manage Wallet
Geocoin    0    3.49034323    0    Manage Wallet
Sexcoin    0    0 (9.40005832)    1,309.10280731    Manage Wallet
Verge-Scrypt    0    0    636.25196676    Manage Wallet

What's the number in bracket?

Also it'll be very useful to have some estimate on btc value on each alt coins.

Another thing I am curious about is why price at mining pool hub fluctuate more widely than price at say, whattomine.com?

I know coin price fluctuates. I also know difficulty fluctuates. It seems that there is something miningpoolhub takes into account that whattomine.com doesn't.

I think that something is luck. If miningpoolhub just found a coin the price go up because miningpoolhub is being lucky. How much that luck affect people that buy tons of hash after that is a bit more mathematically involved.

Yeah luck is included.
But it seems a bit different what we are talking about. The luck that miningpoolhub concerns is overall all time luck. It is nearly 95~105% like thing so it doesn't fluctuate.
This is included because some coins which have PoS, does not work ideally to PoW difficulty target. As PoS blocks intercept continually their PoW block finding may be a bit different from normal formula in theory.
Also block finding probability can be dependant on block time length. Some fast coins have network overhead and it will introduce some bad luck also.
So this luck is included to reflect real world.

Pool does not have some smart way to predict price and difficulty. Usually that strategy will not work better than fast following current situation.

whattomine shows 7day average.
miningpoolhub shows current realtime profitability which makes things different each other.

[miningpoolhub]

I have a question for all this pool miners, it's about reward system.
Can I change coin on mining every 20 minutes? Example: 20m to mine Vertcoin, after that 20m to mine Monero, after 20m to mine Ethereum?
Or I will not get any reward this way?

You will get appropriate rewards. You may miss some round sometimes because of PPLNS, but it will be covered by other lucky rounds.

But... that's just theory. It could be different in reality because pool luck fluctuates much at small pools like Monero.
Vertcoin and Ethereum seems fine.

[miningpoolhub]

How do I use Claymore's to mine ETH?

Usage example.

- To mine ethereum and Siacoin concurrently
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


- Mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port. If you mine ETC, you need to add "-allcoins 1" option due to claymore devfee DAG issue.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


Thanks.

[pornluver]

What does this balance mean?

Coin    Credited    Credited for Auto Exchange    On Exchange    
Adzcoin    0    0 (300.41800833)    0    Manage Wallet
Bitcoin    0.00593506    0    0    Manage Wallet
Ethereum    0    0    0.00000835    Manage Wallet
Feathercoin    0    0 (69.37051846)    0    Manage Wallet
Gamecredits    0    0 (14.29643876)    11.69358219    Manage Wallet
Geocoin    0    3.49034323    0    Manage Wallet
Sexcoin    0    0 (9.40005832)    1,309.10280731    Manage Wallet
Verge-Scrypt    0    0    636.25196676    Manage Wallet

What's the number in bracket?

Also it'll be very useful to have some estimate on btc value on each alt coins.

Another thing I am curious about is why price at mining pool hub fluctuate more widely than price at say, whattomine.com?

I know coin price fluctuates. I also know difficulty fluctuates. It seems that there is something miningpoolhub takes into account that whattomine.com doesn't.

I think that something is luck. If miningpoolhub just found a coin the price go up because miningpoolhub is being lucky. How much that luck affect people that buy tons of hash after that is a bit more mathematically involved.

Yeah luck is included.
But it seems a bit different what we are talking about. The luck that miningpoolhub concerns is overall all time luck. It is nearly 95~105% like thing so it doesn't fluctuate.
This is included because some coins which have PoS, does not work ideally to PoW difficulty target. As PoS blocks intercept continually their PoW block finding may be a bit different from normal formula in theory.
Also block finding probability can be dependant on block time length. Some fast coins have network overhead and it will introduce some bad luck also.
So this luck is included to reflect real world.

Pool does not have some smart way to predict price and difficulty. Usually that strategy will not work better than fast following current situation.

whattomine shows 7day average.
miningpoolhub shows current realtime profitability which makes things different each other.

Wow. So miningpoolhub is more accurate then. You don't take into account miningpoolhub "luck" right? You just take into account current difficulty and price and that's it and current.

[manotroll]

How do I use Claymore's to mine ETH?

Usage example.

- To mine ethereum and Siacoin concurrently
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


- Mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port. If you mine ETC, you need to add "-allcoins 1" option due to claymore devfee DAG issue.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


Thanks.

Only eth because other currencies together increases energy consumption
I want to mine eth

[miningpoolhub]

What does this balance mean?

Coin    Credited    Credited for Auto Exchange    On Exchange    
Adzcoin    0    0 (300.41800833)    0    Manage Wallet
Bitcoin    0.00593506    0    0    Manage Wallet
Ethereum    0    0    0.00000835    Manage Wallet
Feathercoin    0    0 (69.37051846)    0    Manage Wallet
Gamecredits    0    0 (14.29643876)    11.69358219    Manage Wallet
Geocoin    0    3.49034323    0    Manage Wallet
Sexcoin    0    0 (9.40005832)    1,309.10280731    Manage Wallet
Verge-Scrypt    0    0    636.25196676    Manage Wallet

What's the number in bracket?

Also it'll be very useful to have some estimate on btc value on each alt coins.

Another thing I am curious about is why price at mining pool hub fluctuate more widely than price at say, whattomine.com?

I know coin price fluctuates. I also know difficulty fluctuates. It seems that there is something miningpoolhub takes into account that whattomine.com doesn't.

I think that something is luck. If miningpoolhub just found a coin the price go up because miningpoolhub is being lucky. How much that luck affect people that buy tons of hash after that is a bit more mathematically involved.

Yeah luck is included.
But it seems a bit different what we are talking about. The luck that miningpoolhub concerns is overall all time luck. It is nearly 95~105% like thing so it doesn't fluctuate.
This is included because some coins which have PoS, does not work ideally to PoW difficulty target. As PoS blocks intercept continually their PoW block finding may be a bit different from normal formula in theory.
Also block finding probability can be dependant on block time length. Some fast coins have network overhead and it will introduce some bad luck also.
So this luck is included to reflect real world.

Pool does not have some smart way to predict price and difficulty. Usually that strategy will not work better than fast following current situation.

whattomine shows 7day average.
miningpoolhub shows current realtime profitability which makes things different each other.

Wow. So miningpoolhub is more accurate then. You don't take into account miningpoolhub "luck" right? You just take into account current difficulty and price and that's it and current.

Yeah. There's no luck like thing in miningpoolhub formula. Overall statistics, plain math is included.

[miningpoolhub]

How do I use Claymore's to mine ETH?

Usage example.

- To mine ethereum and Siacoin concurrently
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


- Mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port. If you mine ETC, you need to add "-allcoins 1" option due to claymore devfee DAG issue.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


Thanks.

Only eth because other currencies together increases energy consumption
I want to mine eth

Just remove options after -dpool

- To mine ethereum
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1

- To mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1

Thanks.

[celofan]

Does multipoolminer have any fee now?
Because sometimes my ethereum miner restarts with user aaronsace.multipoolminer, works, then close and continues with my user.worker.
What it means?

[pornluver]

miningpool charge a small fee of .9%. It doesn't use pay per share but something else.

Where can I learn more about that something else

[manotroll]

How do I use Claymore's to mine ETH?

Usage example.

- To mine ethereum and Siacoin concurrently
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


- Mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port. If you mine ETC, you need to add "-allcoins 1" option due to claymore devfee DAG issue.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1 -dpool stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:20550 -dwal username.workername -dpsw x -dcoin sc


Thanks.

Only eth because other currencies together increases energy consumption
I want to mine eth

Just remove options after -dpool

- To mine ethereum
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east1.ethereum.miningpoolhub.com:20535 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1

- To mine ETH, ETC or EXP according to realtime profitability by pointing to 17020 port.
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 2 -epsw x -allpools 1 -allcoins 1

Thanks.

Why repeats username.workername-worker username.workername ??

[pornluver]

So you are using PPLNS

What is N?

Is it constant no matter what difficulty is or is it always 1/2difficulty?

In other word do we get more share if we mine when difficulty is low (as it should be?)

[pornluver]

I find it very strange. It seems that every time I use multipool miner it does it's own benchmark.

Then irrelevant of the benchmark result it will try to use dual claymore ethereum sia

powershell -version 5.0 -noexit -executionpolicy bypass -windowstyle maximized -command "&.\multipoolminer.ps1 -username pornluver -workername multipoolminer -interval 60 -location europe -ssl -type amd,nvidia,cpu -algorithm cryptonight,ethash,equihash,lyra2z -poolname miningpoolhub -currency btc,usd -donate 0

   Type: {AMD, NVIDIA}

Miner          Algorithm                         Speed            BTC/Day         BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----          ---------                         -----            -------         ---------- ----
ClaymoreDual40 {Ethash, Sia} {24.78 MH/s, 495.71 MH/s} {0.00258, 0.00024} {0.10395, 0.00047} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
ClaymoreDual30 {Ethash, Sia} {24.49 MH/s, 367.44 MH/s} {0.00255, 0.00017} {0.10395, 0.00047} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}
Claymore       Ethash                       24.82 MH/s            0.00258            0.10395 MiningPoolHub-Ethereum
ClaymoreDual20 {Ethash, Sia} {18.51 MH/s, 185.12 MH/s} {0.00192, 0.00009} {0.10395, 0.00047} {MiningPoolHub-Ethereum, MiningPoolHub-Siacoin}


   Type: AMD

Miner    Algorithm         Speed BTC/Day  BTC/GH/Day Pool
-----    ---------         ----- -------  ---------- ----
Sgminer  Ethash       23.50 MH/s 0.00244     0.10395 MiningPoolHub-Ethereum
Claymore Equihash    303.00  H/s 0.00221 7,282.70784 MiningPoolHub-Zcash
Sgminer  Cryptonight 682.30  H/s 0.00168 2,460.47210 MiningPoolHub-Monero
Claymore Cryptonight 644.00  H/s 0.00158 2,460.47210 MiningPoolHub-Monero
Sgminer  Equihash    212.60  H/s 0.00155 7,282.70784 MiningPoolHub-Zcash




   Status: Running

                    Speed Active                      Launched Command
                    ----- ------                      -------- -------
              152.17 KH/s 00 Days 00 Hours 10 Minutes Once     Bin\Lyra2z-CPU\cpuminer.exe -a lyra2z -o stratum+tcp://europe.lyra2z-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17025 -u
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -p x
{27.88 MH/s, 557.66 MH/s} 00 Days 00 Hours 10 Minutes Once     Bin\Ethash-Claymore\EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool europe.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -ewal
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -epsw x -esm 3 -allpools 1 -dpool hub.miningpoolhub.com:17022 -dwal
                                                               pornluver.multipoolminer -dpsw x -dcoin sc -dcri 40


MultiPoolMiner is 0% more profitable than conventional mining!

Miner                                              btc     usd
-----                                              ---     ---
MultiPoolMiner                                     0.00317 3.05962
{ClaymoreDual40-Ethash/Sia, CpuminerLyra2z-Lyra2z} 0.00316 3.04844

See there is a writing that multipoolminer is 0% (sometimes 2%) more profitable than Claymore. And yet the program run Bin\Ethash-Claymore nevertheless.

How do I change -algorithm cryptonight,ethash,equihash,lyra2z so that multipoolminer would seek more algorithm

Also why you name the software multipoolminer? I mean your site is miningpoolhub.com Is this related to multipoolminer.com or what?

[Lercker]

I find it very strange. It seems that every time I use multipool miner it does it's own benchmark.

Then irrelevant of the benchmark result it will try to use dual claymore ethereum sia

How do I change -algorithm cryptonight,ethash,equihash,lyra2z so that multipoolminer would seek more algorithm

Also why you name the software multipoolminer? I mean your site is miningpoolhub.com Is this related to multipoolminer.com or what?

Multipoolminer was created by user aaronsace not MPH. He is just an avid MPH user who wanted to mine on a profitability switch that took the users hash rate into account, so he created his own miner. He would have to tell you why he named it what he did... I believe he did say that a future version might be usable on other pools, at least if people showed interest for that.

Go to your stats folder and find the files that look like this: Reorder_Skein_HashRate, basically any that end with hashrate. Delete any hashrate file/algo that does not show up when mining, so it can rebenchmark them. I know when I ran the miner the first time my firewall block half the miners from the start and I needed to rebenchmark half the algos so they would work; however ethereum is currently one of the most profitable pools to mine on at MPH so it will go to the top often.

The miner should not be rebenchmarking upon every startup. Remove nvidia from the start bat that could be why it tries to benchmark during start up. Also do you normally cpu mine and gpu mine at the same time? If you do not also remove cpu.

[kopija]

How economical is to set auto exchange of ZEC to BTC?
Apart from pool fee of 0.9% and autoexcghange fee of  0.2% are there any other fees applied?
Thanks.

[asc_one]

How economical is to set auto exchange of ZEC to BTC?
Apart from pool fee of 0.9% and autoexcghange fee of  0.2% are there any other fees applied?
Thanks.

withdrawal costs 0.0004BTC . You can count it as a fee, because it's relatively expensive. If you withdraw 0.04 BTC it is like an additional 1% fee. 0.0004/0.04=0.01

Zcash withdrawal is much cheaper. I would withdraw Zcash to Poloniex and exchange it there for Bitcoin if you need to sell it for dollars. Polo's BTC withdrawal fee is only a quarter of MPH's.

[miningpoolhub]

Does multipoolminer have any fee now?
Because sometimes my ethereum miner restarts with user aaronsace.multipoolminer, works, then close and continues with my user.worker.
What it means?

I don't know. That's not official miningpoolhub miner.

Maybe aaronsace (original author) inserted some donation mining time I think.