GekkoScience NewPac / Terminus R606 (BM1387) Official Support Thread

[419mining]

Hey Gage, just to be sure, you installed cgminer using the directions on the first page correct?

[Morlok8k]

I dont understand how to make a .bat file like you would in windows.

so you want to make a .sh file (shell script).

first line is always "#!/bin/sh"  (a.k.a hashbang then the script type.)
Then you include the command you would enter into the terminal on the next line.

obviously, it can get a lot more complicated, just like batch files, but that's the first step.

simple example:  run.sh

Code:

#!/bin/sh

cgminer -o stratum+tcp://pool.ckpool.org:3333 -u 1HpnRjN2ru4NhYFrZFsXe3JXCyJWW9fDeh.2pac -p x --suggest-diff 1  --gekko-2pac-freq 200

after you've made your .sh file, you need to make it executable.  the command for that is "chmod +x run.sh", or if you have a GUI, you can right click on it, and on one of the property pages you can select to make it executable.

then to run a shell script, you need to type in "./run.sh".  the dot slash is critical.

[WilcoWi]

setup:
win 10; 2 newpac's; gekkosciencehub; 600w single rail 12 v power supply, only the hub connected.
Normally 1st stick @ 575 Mhz and 2nd stick @ 525 Mhz

Using my standard .bat file, just no freq and serial number of stick in it.

started @200 Mhz within 1 min dropped to 100 Mhz WU 98% both sticks
@ 45 mins WU 98% both and 100 Mhz both
@ 1h WU 98% both and 100 Mhz both

end of test, i did not see autotune. Just running @ 100 Mhz.
Hope this is of use to you.

[vh]

You'll need to set a target frequency.

Based on what you described there, you'd want to have "--gekko-newpac-freq 600" in your file.

98% on both sticks not dropping below 100MHz is the expected behaviour as you have it now.

[WilcoWi]

Ah ok, that was not clear to me. starting again now with base freq set @ 575 Mhz
edit: yes, see autotuning now

2 mins: 250 and 260 Mhz @ 88% WU
8 mins: 400 Mhz both and @ WU 69% BOTH
12 mins: 1st stick @ 575 Mhz and second @ 560; WU @ 99%^67%  and 95% ^65%
18 mins: 1st stick @ 575 Mhz and second @ 575; WU @ 99%^72%  and 95% ^71%
40 mins: 1st stick @ 568.7 Mhz and second @ 575; WU @ 100%^87%  and 99% ^86%
50 mins: 1st stick @ 568.7 Mhz and second @ 575; WU @ 100%^90%  and 99% ^89%

When i look @ pool i am hashing about 30-40 GH/s higher than before.
its now 290 GH/s it was about 250 GH/s

Will it go above base freq? (575 Mhz in this case): got the answer: it won't.

edit 3:56 PM CET: works great. very stable @ 568.7 and 575 Mhz.

Great job guys!

[rockmoney]

First, I must say this is a GREAT combined effort between sidehack and vh. I don't believe most people truly realize the complexities behind a project like this. My hat off to BOTH of you for your hard work!

[if there is such a thing] I am fairly well versed with Windows. I also use the latest Windows 10 Home version to run all of my GekkoScience gear, which at times, is 3 GekkoScience hubs each with 6 NewPac sticks, all running together simultaneously from the same PC. And, they do it with ease and perfection, using the latest stable December 13 vh build of cgminer!

Please let me know if there are any NewPac stick tests that need run on this latest build, and I can get the proper logging info over to vh. If that would help, I'm here and more than willing.

NOTHING about this is easy, so again, great work @sidehack and @vh for pulling this miracle off!

Thanks to your work, it's looking like these pod miners would be super powerful miners for such little power usage. Not to mention, it's almost silent operation, making them perfect in every way for home use! It would be a definite game changer to say the least!  


As a side note, I have recently brought my cousin on board to help with GekkoScience product related sales and support, as needed.

If for any reason you are unable to get in contact with me, my cousin CJ will be able to assist you with any sales inquiries and/or support related matters. For security, any direct forum sales payments MUST go DIRECTLY through ME (solely to protect customers from potential imposters). Please NEVER send payments to ANYONE else, or anyone claiming to be us.

CJ's official bitcointalk account is: cjsummers82

Feel free to contact me or CJ if needed. Thanks!

[gt_addict]

@VH

So finally managed to play around with swapping the USB port and using just one stick with my "no nonce" "0 chips" quandary. After adding the "--gekko-noboost" option when running a single stick it now climbs and after 5mins is currently upto 356.25m (and still climbing) when set to 450m.

So it looks like the AB function and Bitminter pool isn't compatible.

I will try the original port and multiple sticks and report back with further findings  

EDIT:
So hooked up All 5 sticks and plugged back into the original usb port. Set the target freq to 500m and within 15mins all the sticks are running at 500m (set tune down to 90).

I can't remember what the top freq is for the TWO sticks per regulator. Anyone have that info to hand? As I dont want to push the freq any higher and burn anything out. The whole hub is using 83w (at the wall).

EDIT 2:
Whats the "WU" with the percentage after it? Average performance? Maybe a dumb question but I gotta ask  

Also what do the "- or o" in the brackets represent?

[vh]

That's some mighty fine sleuthing there.  

If you have a user.worker you can PM me, I'll take a closer look at bitminter.

Most pool post a hashrate and luck value.   WU would be the luck component.
Hash% WU:Luck%

the "o" and "-" was just a quick way to tag which chip the no nonce is associated with.
it's there temporarily to help with the R606.

edit:
My explanation on WU was a little too generically put.
From the README:

Code:

Q: What should my Work Utility (WU) be?
A: Work utility is the product of hashrate * luck and only stabilises over a
very long period of time. Assuming all your work is valid work, bitcoin mining
should produce a work utility of approximately 1 per 71.6MH. This means at
5GH you should have a WU of 5000 / 71.6 or ~ 69. You cannot make your machine
do "better WU" than this - it is luck related. However you can make it much
worse if your machine produces a lot of hardware errors producing invalid work.

[goldsounds]

Tried out 363d879

used code:

Code:

-o stratum+tcp://us-east.stratum.slushpool.com:3333 -u  xxxx.xxxx -p x --gekko-newpac-freq 500 --suggest-diff 512 --balance --gekko-noboost

no nonce on 500 ---> 200mhz
no nonce on 200 ---> 187.5mhz
never could get it stable after running for a while, always under 50% WU^

however, if i use the Dec 18 build, i can get 350mhz going, with an average of 64gh/s

Code:

cgminer version 4.11.1 - Started: [2019-04-09 15:15:20.876]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):53.37G (1m):66.19G (5m):51.19G (15m):25.96G (avg):64.62Gh/s
 A:5120  R:8192  HW:0  WU:903.5/m
 Connected to us-east.stratum.slushpool.com diff 512 with stratum as user xxxxx.xxxxx
 Block: cb080a68...  Diff:6.39T  Started: [15:15:20.877]  Best share: 2.29K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSH 10031593: BM1387:2 350.00MHz      | 61.66G / 64.61Gh/s WU:903.5/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2019-04-09 15:15:20.877] Network diff set to 6.39T
 [2019-04-09 15:15:21.584] GSH 0: found 2 chip(s)
 [2019-04-09 15:15:21.644] GSH 0: setting frequency to 350.00MHz
 [2019-04-09 15:15:21.661] GSH 0: open cores @ 350.00MHz
 [2019-04-09 15:15:25.846] GSH 0: start work @ 350.00MHz
 [2019-04-09 15:16:06.409] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 1638
 [2019-04-09 15:16:06.409] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
 [2019-04-09 15:16:32.965] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 512
 [2019-04-09 15:16:36.777] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
 [2019-04-09 15:16:44.673] Accepted 54156740 Diff 779/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:17:08.360] Accepted 723a5cb3 Diff 574/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:17:08.360] Accepted 60dea91d Diff 677/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:20:14.278] Accepted 47636631 Diff 918/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:21:22.356] Accepted 723effc2 Diff 574/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:21:26.244] Accepted 796f4e0d Diff 540/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:21:41.957] Accepted 6b2712dc Diff 612/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:22:00.313] Accepted 62fa6309 Diff 662/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:22:17.297] Accepted 4b9ca8e7 Diff 867/512 GSH 0
 [2019-04-09 15:22:58.517] Accepted 1ca92894 Diff 2.29K/512 GSH 0

just seeing if i was missing something?  I like the peak hash to get a little more oomph out of my stick.

thanks!!

[sidehack]

Yeah, you're missing about 15GH. 350MHz should see 79.8GH which means your 350MHz is running at 81% and you'd get the same hashrate with probably lower power use out of 285MHz.

[gt_addict]

That's some mighty fine sleuthing there...

Thanks VH, I did scan the readme but must have missed it.

My details are as follows:-

Code:

cgminer -o stratum+tcp://eu1.bitminter.com:3333 -u gtaddict.5xNewpacs -p x --widescreen --gekko-tune-down 90 --gekko-newpac-freq 500 --gekko-noboost

It could well be because I'm using the EU server and not the US one. But I dont see how that would make a difference if it all ends up at the same place  

[kano]

I don't see --gekko-noboost anywhere in vh's public git cgminer.c source ... so that will stop it from running.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

I don't see --gekko-noboost anywhere in vh's public git cgminer.c source ... so that will stop it from running.

Correct. The only AB switch is to turn it on. The command to add to turn AB on is  --gekko-newpac-boost

If that switch is not added to the command line then the miner runs in normal mode without AsicBoost.

[gt_addict]

Correct. The only AB switch is to turn it on. The command to add to turn AB on is  --gekko-newpac-boost

If that switch is not added to the command line then the miner runs in normal mode without AsicBoost.

VH has added the no boost option as it is on by default:-

+ cleared issue sending AB stratum message on non AB pools.  
+ if pool indicates AB is supported, AB will be enabled.
+ removed option "--gekko-newpac-boost", use "--gekko-noboost" to force non AB mode.
+ added [plus] flag after chip count to indicate asic-boost is functioning.

Thats the issue I was having. With it ON i was getting no nonce and restart of the sticks constantly. With it OFF it runs as expected. VH is going to look at bitminter to see whats going on as the pool is an asicbokst pool.

[kano]

VH has added the no boost option as it is on by default:-

+ cleared issue sending AB stratum message on non AB pools. 
+ if pool indicates AB is supported, AB will be enabled.
+ removed option "--gekko-newpac-boost", use "--gekko-noboost" to force non AB mode.
+ added [plus] flag after chip count to indicate asic-boost is functioning.

Thats the issue I was having. With it ON i was getting no nonce and restart of the sticks constantly. With it OFF it runs as expected. VH is going to look at bitminter to see whats going on as the pool is an asicbokst pool.

Hmmm, I couldn't find that in the code - where is it?

[NotFuzzyWarm]

VH has added the no boost option as it is on by default:-

+ cleared issue sending AB stratum message on non AB pools. 
+ if pool indicates AB is supported, AB will be enabled.
+ removed option "--gekko-newpac-boost", use "--gekko-noboost" to force non AB mode.
+ added [plus] flag after chip count to indicate asic-boost is functioning.

Thats the issue I was having. With it ON i was getting no nonce and restart of the sticks constantly. With it OFF it runs as expected. VH is going to look at bitminter to see whats going on as the pool is an asicbokst pool.

Then I stand corrected. I have not updated the software running mine in ages and its default is NO AB: AB has to be specifically turned on. In my case just a matter of "it works so leave it alone!" I take it sometime after the version I run VH changed that to be ON by default.

Dumb move (making AB active by default) in my book because the smaller pools that accept stick miners probably did not do their homework and just went with -ck's implementation of enabling the pool end of AB expecting it to work without any issues... Kano delayed activating AB support for 2 months because he not surprisingly found several bugs in the example code -ck provided. As I recall, those bugs were specifically related to the new Stratum calls. Only after Kano fixed those and <ahem> PROPERLY TESTED THE CODE - unlike a certain other programmer/pool operator/mod who does not do that - did he enable AB on the pool. The large pools of course no doubt had the resources to figure it out fast as well.

[gt_addict]

I have asked DrHaribo about it but havent seen a reply yet. But VH is going to look into it. Im happy they are working at the moment and it is in Beta stage so bound to be a few bugs, but its performing better than the last implementation for me and is hands down a better way to do it for us hobby miners.

[cjsummers82]

Hey guys,

I am having some difficulty with the newpacs and hope someone can shed some light. Currently, I am running 6 newpacs off of a BrovSS USB hub with active cooling. All of the sticks are connected to this hub. The frequency they are running off of is 100 Mhz each. The version of cgminer is the gekkoscience cgminer 4.1 and using on Windows 10. I have been able to mine a couple blocks but eventually cgminer displays a “GSH 3 missing nonces” and “GSH 4 missing nonces” and then displays “Toggling reset on GSH 3” amd “Toggling reset on GSH” and my worker goes offline and have to reboot everything each time. Again, I appreciate any help someone can offer.

I am running 5 sticks at 500 mhz+ with sidehacks GekkoScience USB hub -- hardly get any nonce errors nor do devices frequently reset.  With active cooling, this setup has been rock solid.  I was able to keep it up and running without issues for 2+ weeks without a reboot when I was on vacation last month.

Link to GekkoScience USB hub: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PP9SJ1R/

[vh]

@Kano

Over in the r606 branch.

@gt_addict

Got one of my test system set up to mimic your test.

Device : Dell Optiplex
OS     : Microsoft Windows 10 Pro - Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.404)
Miners : NewPac x 4
Hub    : GekkoScience
Code   : cgminer-4.11.1-windows-gekko-363d879.7z

I was able to get hashing to get stuck at 60%, on one occasion while connected to eu1, but i didn't have enough logging to see anything useful.

Now I can't seem to trigger it again.   Working as expected every run since then.
The pool handles AB correctly from all angles I can tell on Windows & Linux.  

10 hour run:

Code:

 cgminer version 4.11.1 - Started: [2019-04-09 20:06:36.028]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):400.3G (1m):392.0G (5m):385.0G (15m):383.1G (avg):385.5Gh/s
 A:3019264  R:2560  HW:279  WU:5385.1/m
 Connected to eu1.bitminter.com diff 512 with stratum as user gtaddict.5xNewpacs
 Block: d2ac7486...  Diff:6.39T  Started: [05:14:49.130]  Best share: 1.47M
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSH 10030040: BM1387:02+ 500.00MHz |  99.6% WU:100% | 112.2G / 113.0Gh/s WU:1578.7/m
 1: GSH 10030043: BM1387:02+ 500.00MHz | 100.0% WU:100% | 125.2G / 113.1Gh/s WU:1579.4/m
 2: GSH 10031860: BM1387:02+ 337.50MHz |  98.0% WU:^95% | 70.66G / 72.91Gh/s WU:1018.4/m
 3: GSH 10031863: BM1387:02+ 387.50MHz |  98.4% WU: 98% | 92.53G / 86.52Gh/s WU:1208.6/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a todo item to loosen up the no nonce check.  
It was intended to be overly sensitive, but may be backfiring on windows.

edit:

@all
A running tally of the pools and its asic-boost condition is at the bottom of This initial post.
The top "okay" section are pools that I've confirmed to accept work and nonces from the extra ab midstate(s).

If you spot something different, using a different combination or set of settings + pools + local environment.
Post as much detail to replicate as you can and I'll continue to recheck/investigate.

[gt_addict]

VH, its odd that its only happened the once for you. I will give it another go when I’m home later with AB enabled and see what happens. Not like I’m losing out on loads of btc  

EDIT:

Well I tried again and still the same. Even tried the US server but to no avail. Im happy to not use AB seeing as its working without it. I may well try the "old school" method of turning the pot down to reduce the consumption and up the freq