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Looking to sell my copy of CAT. Its a very good bot just dont have the time for it anymore. Please PM offers.
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johnprimer
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December 19, 2017, 05:37:48 AM |
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I think this is very important because what if the market goes up and I stuck on a "bad" buy order that is too low? I'd rather keep trading and on average I will still gain even if some trades lose, because I am making the market (the spread) between buys and sells, on average this will be at least 2%+ and sometimes the market will move my direction and I'll make much more. It will all average out.
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December 19, 2017, 06:43:28 AM |
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Hi sampey, Although i have balance on hitbtc api don't shows it..
did you configure your API the right way? HitBTC API Activation - Go to https://hitbtc.com/settings -> Your API keys - Create your Api Keys this way : Set STATUS ON + Activate Order book, History, Trading balance & Place/cancel orders & Payment informationExept withdraw i checked all of them. are your coins in the EXchange wallet? As i remember you have 2 kind of wallet on Hitbtc. Your right. Solved Thank you soo much.
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jonathan3306
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December 19, 2017, 07:54:02 AM |
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Hello. Does C.A.T support ETH/USD and ETH/BTC on cex.io? I want buy C.A.T, can I recive some trail for test (maybe not for live trade)?
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Sampey (OP)
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December 19, 2017, 08:54:09 AM |
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Hello. Does C.A.T support ETH/USD and ETH/BTC on cex.io? I want buy C.A.T, can I recive some trail for test (maybe not for live trade)?
CAT Support Every Market on Exchanges. There's no test environmente, only official lifetime licenses.
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Sampey (OP)
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December 19, 2017, 08:58:30 AM |
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Added this paragraph to TIPS & TRICKS Section
I Have a set of Gains but my Estimated Portfolio Balance is Lower than before. How is this possible?
You should consider that Gain shown by CAT is a Mathematical Gain based on Ping-Pong Completed % Spread. And of course, it's a gain but your General Estimated Portfolio Value can't be based only on such value.
- First of all take in consideration that Default % GAIN Suggested by CAT is BuyFee+SellFee+0.1% So accept this value as % GAIN nearly means "Trade Without Gains"
- Consider This example to explain the difference between SingleGain VS Estimated Portfolio value
At Time 1 : I have 100 <COIN> and price (in BTC) is 0.01 so i have 1 BTC in <COIN> (100 * 0.01)
At Time 2 : I complete a ping-pong with 10% GAIN - PING : Sell 100<COIN>@X - 100% Trade Occurs - PONG BUY 110<COIN>@Y (using total amount of my first ping trade)
After PING-PONG Completed i have 110 <COIN>, so 10 Coin Gains or 10% Gains.
At Time 3 : Bad luck for <COIN> and a crash occurs some times later (that has nothing to do with your trades) Change price on market <COIN>/BTC is now = 0.005
So now i have 110 * 0.005 = 0.55 BTC
Summary : - My Gain using CAT is 10 Coin or 10%. And this is absolutedly true. - My estimated portfolio value is lower than before. And this is absolutedly true too.
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December 19, 2017, 12:39:57 PM |
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thanks for that info. And you say - First of all take in consideration that Default % GAIN Suggested by CAT is BuyFee+SellFee+0.1% So accept this value as % GAIN nearly means "Trade Without Gains" Now just to be sure - that Default % GAIN is then if "Min % Guaranteed Gain" is set to 0, correct? so then if we set Min% Guaranteed Gain to 1% it would be BuyFee+SellFee+0.1%+1% ? thx!
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Sampey (OP)
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December 19, 2017, 12:44:28 PM |
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Now just to be sure - that Default % GAIN is then if "Min % Guaranteed Gain" is set to 0, correct? so then if we set Min% Guaranteed Gain to 1% it would be BuyFee+SellFee+0.1%+1% ?
thx!
No, is set to BuyFee+SellFee+0.1% if you set to 1% it's 1% = BuyFee+SellFee+NetGain, example 0.15 + 0.15 + 0.7
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December 19, 2017, 01:45:52 PM |
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I haven’t been using CAT for that long but can say I am very happy with this trading tool. Cat has been killing it over the past 2-3 weeks.
I don’t have CAT setup as a set and forget tool, but rather I’m configuring profiles for different market conditions and switch between them as needed. The best advice I can give as a CAT beginner myself is start slow with a small amount of capital, run 5-10 trades, don’t forget you have static mode and update parameters when you want to switch between the modes (I always forget this one). Set a stop loss so you don’t eat away all you capital.
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December 19, 2017, 06:22:32 PM |
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@achtung082 would you mind sharing a few best practises you found? i am quite new to CAT but like how versatile it is - however it's also very complex and testing is not easy cause markets change all the time and there are soo many possibilities, that it is hard to understand whats to be used when and how to optimize... not wanting you to share all your secrets, just a few additional tips and tricks to sampeys manuals would help a lot to get the setup more bullet proof.
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Elmit
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December 20, 2017, 01:37:54 AM |
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I got some errors/questions/suggestions:
A pop-up window says: Some Markets Statistics Could Not Be Calculated.
Could you please add on Which Exchange that is?
It might be at Cryptopia, where the General Console shows:
2017-12-20 08:30:51| Message Type : ApiPrint API Get Market Trades Error. Trace Is : Api Response is nulljava.lang.NullPointerException at CAT.W_API.Support.CJ.getSubArray(Unknown Source) at CAT.W_API.API_Cryptopia.pvtGetMarketTrades(Unknown Source) at CAT.W_API.API.getMarketTrades(Unknown Source) at CAT.B_Env_Exchange.B_Misc.SMStatistics.<init>(Unknown Source) at CAT.B_Env_Exchange.C_GUI.SubMain.JPanelMarketsCurrency.setMercati(Unknown Source) at CAT.B_Env_Exchange.C_GUI.SubMain.JPanelMarketsCurrency.b(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)
Poloniex shows in General Console:
2017-12-20 08:18:17| Message Type : ApiPrint {"error":"Nonce must be greater than 1513691269949075. You provided 1513729094469."}
There is a mismatch in the amount of digits. Maybe seconds is not the right unit, maybe milli seconds would fit better.
Popup: Elmit Error From Exchange C-CEX C.A.T. is not able to communicate with Exchange
Is there a way to distinguish why?
Changing the skin results in removing the grey of having a balance in the market lists.
Suggest Prices needs to click Buy to fetch data
Price suggestions should only be offered within the Market Limitations.
Reset should be possible for only one line.
Market list can be shown in grey rows where I have a balance. Could you add a column how much I have, so that I don't need to switch to balance?
If there is a need for my attention, can you make the tab flashing or colored? E.g., if there is insufficient fund, ...
What is C.A.T. doing after login. E.g. after login at Yo-Bit it takes 1 to 3 minutes till the home directory is examined.
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Elmit
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December 20, 2017, 01:42:20 AM |
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Wow, I gained 4.38899664 BTC with one trade - but it's not true! 2017-12-20 09:07:10| Ping-Pong Complete. Summary (Ping-Pong Fees/Net Gain are Proportionally Calculated From Pong Trade Qty) : Ping : SELL 9.60546233@0.00008779 Total In BITCOIN 0.00084326/ Pong : BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Total In BITCOIN 0.00050000 Ping-Pong Fees : 0.00000336 (From Ping 0.00000211 + From Pong 0.00000125) Net Gain In BITCOIN : 4.38899664 / Gain in % : 99.989 Pong Trade BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Total : 0.00050000 Fees : 0.00000125 Will Be Managed by the SELL Trade Pool 2017-12-20 09:07:11| User Gain HTTP Post Call is Active. Try to send data to https://mysite.com/xxx.php?exchange=Bittrex2017-12-20 09:07:11| Data : data={"PingPong":{"Market":"MYST/BTC","TimeStamp":"2017-12-20 09:07:11","OriginalTradeType":"SELL","OriginalTradePrice":"0.00008779","OriginalTradeQuantity":"9.60546233","OriginalTradeFee":"0.00000211","FinalTradeType":"BUY","FinalTradePrice":"0.00000001","FinalTradeQuantity":"50000.00000001","FinalTradeFee":"0.00000125","TotalFee":"0.00000336","Gain":"4.38899664","PercentageGain":"99.989","MarketComulativeGain":"4.38899664"}} 2017-12-20 09:07:11| Response From HTTP Post Call is : 200 Got it! 2017-12-20 09:07:11| TP : Trade (CAT-ff99/AutoID1aa950ef6-f6c4-4876-92b7-b0dd90c67b85) BUY-50000.00000001@0.00000001 Total is 0.00050000 Without Fees Is 0.00049875 / Qty is 50000.00000001 Without Fees Is 49874.50000001 |Reuse 100.000 % of MYST Buy Pong Trade Into Sell Pool|To SELL Pool : 49874.50000001 Mysterium Discarded : 0.00000000 Mysterium 2017-12-20 09:07:16| BSP : |If Pool Value > Available Amount then Adequate Pool Values to Available Amount : true| Attempt to set SELL Pool Value to 49874.50000001 SELL Pool Value Is Set To 0.00000000 (Current Available In MYSTERIUM) 2017-12-20 09:07:16| BSP : Current Pool Values : Buy 0.00000000/Sell 0.00000000 2017-12-20 09:07:56| PPA : Lookup 14 Zombie Status : No Ping/Pong, No Active Trades,Buy/Sell Pool is Empty & No Active parameters to Add Values To Pool, No Order To Restore. 2017-12-20 09:08:36| PPA : Lookup 15 Zombie Status : No Ping/Pong, No Active Trades,Buy/Sell Pool is Empty & No Active parameters to Add Values To Pool, No Order To Restore.
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Sampey (OP)
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December 20, 2017, 01:45:43 AM |
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A pop-up window says: Some Markets Statistics Could Not Be Calculated.
Could you please add on Which Exchange that is?
It might be at Cryptopia, where the General Console shows:
2017-12-20 08:30:51| Message Type : ApiPrint API Get Market Trades Error. Trace Is : Api Response is nulljava.lang.NullPointerException at CAT.W_API.Support.CJ.getSubArray(Unknown Source) at CAT.W_API.API_Cryptopia.pvtGetMarketTrades(Unknown Source) at CAT.W_API.API.getMarketTrades(Unknown Source) at CAT.B_Env_Exchange.B_Misc.SMStatistics.<init>(Unknown Source) at CAT.B_Env_Exchange.C_GUI.SubMain.JPanelMarketsCurrency.setMercati(Unknown Source) at CAT.B_Env_Exchange.C_GUI.SubMain.JPanelMarketsCurrency.b(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) This could happens when a market list is empty. This is about calculate statistics. Why do you need the exchange name? It's the exchange where you press Load Markets With Statistics. Poloniex shows in General Console:
2017-12-20 08:18:17| Message Type : ApiPrint {"error":"Nonce must be greater than 1513691269949075. You provided 1513729094469."}
There is a mismatch in the amount of digits. Maybe seconds is not the right unit, maybe milli seconds would fit better. This is an error that cat is able to manage. You can discard that. Popup: Elmit Error From Exchange C-CEX C.A.T. is not able to communicate with Exchange
Is there a way to distinguish why? That error means server api system is not returning any response (http Code NOT 200) Changing the skin results in removing the grey of having a balance in the market lists.
Well, don't change the skin if this GUI "glitch" is a problem. I've added skin changes as bonus, i have no way to manage any single GUI ASpect. Suggest Prices needs to click Buy to fetch data
Price suggestions should only be offered within the Market Limitations.
Reset should be possible for only one line.
Market list can be shown in grey rows where I have a balance. Could you add a column how much I have, so that I don't need to switch to balance?
If there is a need for my attention, can you make the tab flashing or colored? E.g., if there is insufficient fund, ... New Changes will be considered for 5.3. What is C.A.T. doing after login. E.g. after login at Yo-Bit it takes 1 to 3 minutes till the home directory is examined.
CAT load markets, but Yobit have TONS of markets and you can't make only 1 call. In 5.2 version it will be a little faster.
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Sampey (OP)
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December 20, 2017, 01:49:06 AM |
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Wow, I gained 4.38899664 BTC with one trade - but it's not true! 2017-12-20 09:07:10| Ping-Pong Complete. Summary (Ping-Pong Fees/Net Gain are Proportionally Calculated From Pong Trade Qty) : Ping : SELL 9.60546233@0.00008779 Total In BITCOIN 0.00084326/ Pong : BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Total In BITCOIN 0.00050000 Ping-Pong Fees : 0.00000336 (From Ping 0.00000211 + From Pong 0.00000125) Net Gain In BITCOIN : 4.38899664 / Gain in % : 99.989 Pong Trade BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Total : 0.00050000 Fees : 0.00000125 Will Be Managed by the SELL Trade Poo That's very strange. Send me the full log please because it seems very bad api responses are returning from the exchange. How it's possible that CAT creates an order at 1 SAT?? BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001That means something very bad happens during market data fetch data (best market buy/sell price). And another problem occur because it seems the exchange let CAT create a 1 SAT Order.......
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Sampey (OP)
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December 20, 2017, 02:54:44 AM |
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Thanks for the log, i will write here the explanation because it could be useful to anyone. Problem : you set Gain 600% (maybe a typo?) And you set Always Create PONG. And the problems comes here : 2017-12-20 08:59:08| PPC(REC-BUY-PO) : Always Create Pong Order : Ref Price Is 0.00008779 Price Calculated is -0.00043895 2017-12-20 08:59:08| New Order Data Last Check Ok, With Roundings : Warning : Set Price to Min Price : -0.00043895 -> 0.00000001 I don't know why but CAT calculated a negative value (i don't know why, first time i see that problem, but probably something happens in % Calculation with 600% Value). So CAT set to 1 Satoshi because price was negative. But even if value is bad that could not be a big problem. Bit problem comes here : 2017-12-20 09:06:26| PPO : Dynamic-PONG(CAT-ff99/aa950ef6-f6c4-4876-92b7-b0dd90c67b85) BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Current 50000.00000001 Order Synch Call(Attempt 2) - Synch Successful! Order Status Changed from ToSynch To Active Order was created and synchronized (it means that it was inside the order book) 2017-12-20 09:07:10| PPA : Lookup 13 Start. Update Market Orders,My Orders,My Trades. First Markets Checks Are Ok. Current Personal Last Prices : S:0.00008779 S_PI:0.00008779 S_PO:N/A B:0.00000001 B_PI:N/A B_PO:0.00000001 Best Market Prices : S:0.00008752/B:0.00008741 Current Orders/Trades : 0 Ping, 1 Pong, 0 Trades From Ping, 0 Orders To Restore, Pool Values : Buy 0.00000000/Sell 0.00000000 2017-12-20 09:07:10| Dynamic-PONG(CAT-ff99/aa950ef6-f6c4-4876-92b7-b0dd90c67b85) BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Current 50000.00000001 | PPO : A Trade Has Occured : BUY 50000.00000001@0.000000012017-12-20 09:07:10| Dynamic-PONG(CAT-ff99/aa950ef6-f6c4-4876-92b7-b0dd90c67b85) BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Current 0.00000000 | PPO : Order Is Full Close (Current Quantity = 0.00000000) 2017-12-20 09:07:10| Dynamic-PONG(CAT-ff99/aa950ef6-f6c4-4876-92b7-b0dd90c67b85) BUY 50000.00000001@0.00000001 Current 0.00000000 Delete Reason : Quantity is 0 And then order disappear from the list (or a Trade structure was returned by MyTrade Api Call). So it seems a trade really happens OR APi responses returned bad data (bad = not true) Were where you trading?
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Elmit
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December 20, 2017, 03:42:48 AM |
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I was trading on Bittrex.
600% I put on purpose, since I did not figure out how to prevent a trade. I wanted to get rid of that coin!!! Since you say it, I found it in the General tab to untick "Always create Pong orders from Trades"
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December 20, 2017, 07:52:58 AM |
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@Sampey, i would like to confirm your Private Message - can't reply directly cause of those stupid 2 message rule... thx.
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December 20, 2017, 09:32:53 AM |
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@sampey DONE - from xxxx70a6
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Sampey (OP)
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December 20, 2017, 09:46:31 AM |
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@sampey DONE - from xxxx70a6
i confirm, i will pm you in the coming hours
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