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Dehydroepiandrosterone - that is what USADA found in him. I am not a doc, but that does not look like harmless protein shake ingredient ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The more medical and chemistry abbreviation I seen in the article, the more dirty that stuff looks to me. That crap does not look like a pill that you take once once you have a headache. You take it constantly to gain advantage. 6 month ban was truly a vacation for Green, specially if in their contract it is said that UFC are obliged to give a fighter 2-3 fights per year. I think 1 year ban + a fine from UFC is a minimum what a fighter that gets caught should get. I think UFC is going easy on him because a lot of people have been talking about the prime days of UFC already gone. I think I saw this in a YouTube short where Jake Paul was talking about the UFC and not being the one great MMA organization that it once was. Even though I do not think that Jake Paul is that much intelligent human being, I have to say I agree with him on this point. Because if we look at the past, we will see that UFC had multiple fighters, actually a lot of fighters who could bring in a good amount of revenue. A lot of fighters could still fight. But now they have only a few. Probably that is one reason UFC did not want to keep him away for a longer period of time. Because then there comes a chance of the fighter switching to other combat sports like boxing where he will make a lot more money.
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December 20, 2022, 10:27:31 AM |
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Dehydroepiandrosterone - that is what USADA found in him. I am not a doc, but that does not look like harmless protein shake ingredient ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The more medical and chemistry abbreviation I seen in the article, the more dirty that stuff looks to me. That crap does not look like a pill that you take once once you have a headache. You take it constantly to gain advantage. 6 month ban was truly a vacation for Green, specially if in their contract it is said that UFC are obliged to give a fighter 2-3 fights per year. I think 1 year ban + a fine from UFC is a minimum what a fighter that gets caught should get. I think UFC is going easy on him because a lot of people have been talking about the prime days of UFC already gone. I think I saw this in a YouTube short where Jake Paul was talking about the UFC and not being the one great MMA organization that it once was. Even though I do not think that Jake Paul is that much intelligent human being, I have to say I agree with him on this point. Because if we look at the past, we will see that UFC had multiple fighters, actually a lot of fighters who could bring in a good amount of revenue. A lot of fighters could still fight. But now they have only a few. Probably that is one reason UFC did not want to keep him away for a longer period of time. Because then there comes a chance of the fighter switching to other combat sports like boxing where he will make a lot more money. However, even though you say that their prime days are gone, each and every kid that is in combat sports dreams to get into UFC. Still a lot of fighters goal is to sign a contract with UFC. Even though first contract is only 3 fights with 10+10k reward, it is nothing, compared to what they spend. As you have mentioned boxing - it is easier to become a professional, to train, to become a good boxer, rewards are many times greater. Yet kids dont want to be professional boxers and earn millions. They want to be in UFC. Quite strange for a dying UFC, dont you agree ?
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As you have mentioned boxing - it is easier to become a professional, to train, to become a good boxer, rewards are many times greater. Yet kids dont want to be professional boxers and earn millions. They want to be in UFC. Quite strange for a dying UFC, dont you agree ?
UFC is cooler, that's what I think. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) To have different options for knocking down your opponent is something else. When every part of your body can be a deadly weapon is also way better. Kids do look up to that, especially the Spider Silva, Bones, and McGregor times. It takes skills, and a genius in the industry, UFC may have a few now but it's not different from boxing. Sometimes it takes time before they are born or to find out they have it.
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Unfortunately, for Dana White; Paddy doesn't have the same sort of persona or skill set as Conor. Conor was so popular because of his loud mouth, but also he backed it up. He usually put people to sleep in the first or second round. If you can last longer than that with Conor you'll probably beat him.
Paddy is a little less eccentric, and doesn't have the same explosiveness in the octagon. He'll still be a star, I'm sure. However, Conor level? Probably not, and that's okay. People like Conor are rare, they're the perfect combination for the fans, and the money counters in the UFC.
He's like a diet version right now. The paddy hype train will derail very quickly if he starts losing and even more so if he keeps acting like a cunt. He's got that lovable rouge thing going on so he can get away with running his mouth more than others but that will quickly go if he starts to piss off his fans. His attitude and sucking up to Dana was embarrassing in the lead up to this fight. If the money goes to his head he'll lose a lot of respect. He's got the underdog spirit and working classes on his side right now but if he starts flashing the cash McGregor style he'll quickly become unrelatable. He's already been promoting some blatant rip off Prime Energy drink and now won't do interviews unless its on his own terms and if he becomes one of those people who will promote anything or will only do something for a quick buck he'll quickly lose support. Personally I hope he simmers down, admits that his last fight was at least very close and he can bounce back. I don't think Dana is going to give him any challenges though for his next fight or so so it looks like we'll be seeing him against bums until he shows some promise in the octagon. Without backing up his brand in the ring he'll quickly become an embarrassment if all his hype comes down to social media. I'm not sure how much of his hype if from fair-weather fans who will move onto the next hype train once it crashes.
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It was a decent event overall for a Fight Night but nothing outstanding. I guess it's better than nothing. And I was kinda bored with the main event tbh.
Judges didn't find this fight boring because Jared Cannonier won by split decision, but I think he was slightly better and he deserved to win. Cannonier had better percentage of significant strikes in that fight, but Strickland had more strikes and one takedown, so I can understand why someone saw him as a winner. Since this was last UFC event in this year I expected to see much better fight car, but world cup drama was more than enough for me ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wasn't really into it after the second round tbh. I kinda already knew it going to the distance just by the looks of it. So I didn't really bother watching it a lot closer than I should have. It's just after Matthews lost, that was it for me. Lol. My chance to break even for the event gone. Next time, all the top tickets should be for main card matches only. Matches in the main card are more predictable and less volatile. Dehydroepiandrosterone - that is what USADA found in him. I am not a doc, but that does not look like harmless protein shake ingredient ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The more medical and chemistry abbreviation I seen in the article, the more dirty that stuff looks to me. That crap does not look like a pill that you take once once you have a headache. You take it constantly to gain advantage. 6 month ban was truly a vacation for Green, specially if in their contract it is said that UFC are obliged to give a fighter 2-3 fights per year. I think 1 year ban + a fine from UFC is a minimum what a fighter that gets caught should get. I think UFC is going easy on him because a lot of people have been talking about the prime days of UFC already gone. I think I saw this in a YouTube short where Jake Paul was talking about the UFC and not being the one great MMA organization that it once was. Even though I do not think that Jake Paul is that much intelligent human being, I have to say I agree with him on this point. Because if we look at the past, we will see that UFC had multiple fighters, actually a lot of fighters who could bring in a good amount of revenue. A lot of fighters could still fight. But now they have only a few. Probably that is one reason UFC did not want to keep him away for a longer period of time. Because then there comes a chance of the fighter switching to other combat sports like boxing where he will make a lot more money. Uh, k bruh, whatever they say. UFC prime days are gone. Lmao. How can they say that, it's still growing ffs.
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I think UFC is going easy on him because a lot of people have been talking about the prime days of UFC already gone. I think I saw this in a YouTube short where Jake Paul was talking about the UFC and not being the one great MMA organization that it once was. Even though I do not think that Jake Paul is that much intelligent human being, I have to say I agree with him on this point. Because if we look at the past, we will see that UFC had multiple fighters, actually a lot of fighters who could bring in a good amount of revenue. A lot of fighters could still fight. But now they have only a few. Probably that is one reason UFC did not want to keep him away for a longer period of time. Because then there comes a chance of the fighter switching to other combat sports like boxing where he will make a lot more money.
However, even though you say that their prime days are gone, each and every kid that is in combat sports dreams to get into UFC. Still a lot of fighters goal is to sign a contract with UFC. Even though first contract is only 3 fights with 10+10k reward, it is nothing, compared to what they spend. As you have mentioned boxing - it is easier to become a professional, to train, to become a good boxer, rewards are many times greater. Yet kids dont want to be professional boxers and earn millions. They want to be in UFC. Quite strange for a dying UFC, dont you agree ? I am going to stick to my words and say that UFC is not in its prime days anymore. But as you said, the dream of every kid as a fighter is to fight in the UFC. Because even though UFC is not in its prime anymore, UFC is still the biggest mixed Martial art organization till now. I don’t think there is any organization that can even get close to the UFC. The popularity of the UFC has certainly decreased, but still, other organizations like the Eagle FC or anything else have not even come close to that UFC. I think there is another reason for that which is a lot of popular fighters are choosing to go into boxing right now because that brings a lot more money than the UFC. Another thing is, I would say, that the popularity of the UFC is certainly decreasing, but not at a level that can be considered as “dying“.
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I don't think Dana is going to give him any challenges though for his next fight or so so it looks like we'll be seeing him against bums until he shows some promise in the octagon. Sean O'Malley used to be the fighter that got easy opponents, until all of a sudden he faced Petr Yan and won via split decision. Few of Sean opponents were from the top, and all of a sudden he gets top1 opponent. Same can be repeated with Paddy, but doubtfully will, as lightweight division is overcrowded with good fighters. So yeah, highly likely Paddy will be not facing top ranked fighters for some time. Personally, I dont like Paddy. He is grimacing to much, has a very too high an opinion of yourself while having a wind in his head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40lPKQ5rP2o - damn, this is so embarrassing to sit and clean your teeth while doing an interview ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I am going to stick to my words and say that UFC is not in its prime days anymore. Another thing is, I would say, that the popularity of the UFC is certainly decreasing, but not at a level that can be considered as “dying“.
Why? Just why you got such an opinion? They had events almost every week, while other promotions are lucky to have an event once per month. I think we are so used to their numerous events, that it becomes a routine, and some people, like you for example (no offence) thinks that its popularity is decreasing. Speaking about popularity - UFC were the only sport event that continued during pandemic and lockdowns. If no one would be interested in it, if its popularity would be "certainly decreasing", they would not ran all those events, and people rather switch to watching TV series on Netflix, instead of watching UFC events ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Instead, they gained tremendous response and support during that time. If you think that I am wrong, then what were the times when "UFC were in prime"?
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I don't think Dana is going to give him any challenges though for his next fight or so so it looks like we'll be seeing him against bums until he shows some promise in the octagon. Sean O'Malley used to be the fighter that got easy opponents, until all of a sudden he faced Petr Yan and won via split decision. Few of Sean opponents were from the top, and all of a sudden he gets top1 opponent. Same can be repeated with Paddy, but doubtfully will, as lightweight division is overcrowded with good fighters. So yeah, highly likely Paddy will be not facing top ranked fighters for some time. Personally, I dont like Paddy. He is grimacing to much, has a very too high an opinion of yourself while having a wind in his head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40lPKQ5rP2o - damn, this is so embarrassing to sit and clean your teeth while doing an interview ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I am going to stick to my words and say that UFC is not in its prime days anymore. Another thing is, I would say, that the popularity of the UFC is certainly decreasing, but not at a level that can be considered as “dying“.
Why? Just why you got such an opinion? They had events almost every week, while other promotions are lucky to have an event once per month. I think we are so used to their numerous events, that it becomes a routine, and some people, like you for example (no offence) thinks that its popularity is decreasing. Speaking about popularity - UFC were the only sport event that continued during pandemic and lockdowns. If no one would be interested in it, if its popularity would be "certainly decreasing", they would not ran all those events, and people rather switch to watching TV series on Netflix, instead of watching UFC events ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Instead, they gained tremendous response and support during that time. If you think that I am wrong, then what were the times when "UFC were in prime"? Because they passed it already after Connor. They were trying to revive it through Paddy that has the bravado of Connor but Paddy is not as good as Connor when it comes to striking. If he is just as good as Khamzat combined with Paddy's boldness and I hate to say this, an Englishman, we might see it back again. Dana will soon give Paddy one of the baddest fighters in the cage if he asks fee as much as how much Connor got in one fight.
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im pretty upset the Costa vs Whittaker fight has been cancelled, however the UFC should've definitely planned in advance for this as Costa had made his point very clear on what he would do.
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UFC is cooler, that's what I think. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) To have different options for knocking down your opponent is something else. When every part of your body can be a deadly weapon is also way better. Kids do look up to that, especially the Spider Silva, Bones, and McGregor times. It takes skills, and a genius in the industry, UFC may have a few now but it's not different from boxing. Sometimes it takes time before they are born or to find out they have it. I, my eyes got opened to Martial Arts when watching anime with Martial Arts on them Baki the Grappler is one of them, and applying that to MMA that have a close relation anyway UFC is way cooler than just plain old boxing, and you are right about it, there are many options in finishing his or her opponent, and surely I was looking up in doing that moves that is why I am a fan of MMA and the UFC now,
Right now we don't have any event for 2 weeks, so it is a 2-week long break, for us, and the UFC but right now I want to discuss fights that are on the horizon but were canceled due to fighters backing down, and 1st was Alex Pereira VS Khamzat Chimaev - and for this fight, I think this is going to be a great fight we could see how Khamzat Chimaev could do to a bigger opponent, and for Pereira, if he can handle those heavy wrestling of Khamzat, and why did Chimaev back down for no reason, and now Pereira is saying that Khamzat is scared of him, but I think it is because of Pereira's condition he will fight Chimaev in Rio if they fight in the Light Heavyweight Division, so there will be no cut weight that will happen, for me Alex Pereira will be on the advantage on that Weight class, and Chimaev Answered that he will not risk a fight without the belt, at the Middleweight division,
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As you have mentioned boxing - it is easier to become a professional, to train, to become a good boxer, rewards are many times greater. Yet kids dont want to be professional boxers and earn millions. They want to be in UFC. Quite strange for a dying UFC, dont you agree ?
UFC is cooler, that's what I think. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) To have different options for knocking down your opponent is something else. When every part of your body can be a deadly weapon is also way better. Kids do look up to that, especially the Spider Silva, Bones, and McGregor times. It takes skills, and a genius in the industry, UFC may have a few now but it's not different from boxing. Sometimes it takes time before they are born or to find out they have it. Because it is mixed martial arts, it covers all cultures, which makes this organization more attractive. I find it weird that people want to fight here, they can get a better career and better money in Boxing. In order to do MMA, you need to bring at least 2-3 sports branches to the best level. The fact that it is so troublesome makes this sport special. I hope that the wages paid for the athletes will be balanced in the future, this needs to happen.
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Unfortunately, for Dana White; Paddy doesn't have the same sort of persona or skill set as Conor. Conor was so popular because of his loud mouth, but also he backed it up. He usually put people to sleep in the first or second round. If you can last longer than that with Conor you'll probably beat him.
Paddy is a little less eccentric, and doesn't have the same explosiveness in the octagon. He'll still be a star, I'm sure. However, Conor level? Probably not, and that's okay. People like Conor are rare, they're the perfect combination for the fans, and the money counters in the UFC.
He's like a diet version right now. The paddy hype train will derail very quickly if he starts losing and even more so if he keeps acting like a cunt. I like Paddy the baddy because he is an annoyance to everyone hehe. However, I very much agree with your assessment and if we force ourselves to see the reality after the fight versus Jared Gordon, the hypetrain is already beginning to derail. What can Dana presently do for him? His skills are not enough to enter top 10 in his weight division, he has no discipline with his body and he now cannot speak against hand sanitizer boy because no one would believe him. Hand sanitizer boy would kill him within 5 minutes hehehe.
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Because it is mixed martial arts, it covers all cultures, which makes this organization more attractive. I find it weird that people want to fight here, they can get a better career and better money in Boxing. In order to do MMA, you need to bring at least 2-3 sports branches to the best level. The fact that it is so troublesome makes this sport special. I hope that the wages paid for the athletes will be balanced in the future, this needs to happen.
Boxing is more dangerous than MMA, that's the reason why people are choose MMA rather than boxing. If you search on google about death in boxing and death in MMA, you will see there's huge difference about it. The other thing maybe boxing career is more harder since there's not many organizer who launch an event for unknown fighters, unlike MMA you can choose either One championship, KSW, Bellator, UFC etc etc.
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Because it is mixed martial arts, it covers all cultures, which makes this organization more attractive. I find it weird that people want to fight here, they can get a better career and better money in Boxing. In order to do MMA, you need to bring at least 2-3 sports branches to the best level. The fact that it is so troublesome makes this sport special. I hope that the wages paid for the athletes will be balanced in the future, this needs to happen.
Well, just my opinion, many are used to just watching boxing, but with other mixed martial arts they seem not knowledgable about it and some without the knowledge of Jui-Jitsu dub it as boring and I will be true here at 1st that I was really clueless about MMA that it has this wrestling and grappling on the ground I think it was really boring at 1st, but knowing and understanding those technique executed with precision I surely learn to love it, and seeing Khabib Nurmagomedov for the 1st time I was really in love with his technique with his ground games and how he executes it easily, Well in terms of payment I think Boxing in exhibition matches tends to have much payment but with regular boxing matches I think boxing still does have much sponsorship, because boxing are well known than with MMA or maybe Dana White sure has promotion but still controlling the payments of his fighter, I like Paddy the baddy because he is an annoyance to everyone hehe. However, I very much agree with your assessment and if we force ourselves to see the reality after the fight versus Jared Gordon, the hypetrain is already beginning to derail. What can Dana presently do for him? His skills are not enough to enter top 10 in his weight division, he has no discipline with his body and he now cannot speak against hand sanitizer boy because no one would believe him. Hand sanitizer boy would kill him within 5 minutes hehehe.
I am seeing a fight picking again, but all Dana White is doing is getting this kid's head to explode because he surely has too much about himself instead of helping him to have the quality of training he can get, it is just false hope in getting ready for the top fighters of the UFC, for me, it is not really helping it just creeps up to Paddy's head that he is the best, for me right now that hype is already derailed, Jared Gordon just explodes him so much and dominating the division is very impossible with those top fighters in that division,
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Right now we don't have any event for 2 weeks, so it is a 2-week long break, for us, and the UFC but right now I want to discuss fights that are on the horizon but were canceled due to fighters backing down, and 1st was Alex Pereira VS Khamzat Chimaev - and for this fight, I think this is going to be a great fight we could see how Khamzat Chimaev could do to a bigger opponent, and for Pereira, if he can handle those heavy wrestling of Khamzat, and why did Chimaev back down for no reason, and now Pereira is saying that Khamzat is scared of him, but I think it is because of Pereira's condition he will fight Chimaev in Rio if they fight in the Light Heavyweight Division, so there will be no cut weight that will happen, for me Alex Pereira will be on the advantage on that Weight class, and Chimaev Answered that he will not risk a fight without the belt, at the Middleweight division,
I would come up with a counteroffer and offer to summarize this year in UFC. We will have time to discuss future events, but, as we see everyone often make summarizes or year review, why not make our own? I would gladly read about users thoughts about fight of the year, upset of the year, robbery of the year, knockout or submission of the year, amazement of the year and etc.
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I am going to stick to my words and say that UFC is not in its prime days anymore. Another thing is, I would say, that the popularity of the UFC is certainly decreasing, but not at a level that can be considered as “dying“.
Why? Just why you got such an opinion? They had events almost every week, while other promotions are lucky to have an event once per month. I think we are so used to their numerous events, that it becomes a routine, and some people, like you for example (no offence) thinks that its popularity is decreasing. Speaking about popularity - UFC were the only sport event that continued during pandemic and lockdowns. If no one would be interested in it, if its popularity would be "certainly decreasing", they would not ran all those events, and people rather switch to watching TV series on Netflix, instead of watching UFC events ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Instead, they gained tremendous response and support during that time. If you think that I am wrong, then what were the times when "UFC were in prime"? It's def wrong to say the UFC is past its prime. As a company, it's more than thrice over larger than what it was 10 years ago and they're still growing. They have the biggest PPV events in MMA, biggest non PPV events and obv have the biggest roster of fighters. And it's not just that, they have most of the best fighters in MMA. And it's funny how the other guy doubles down and says the Eagle FC is close to the UFC's level. Khabib is just starting to realize how hard it is to be a promoter. But I will say this, there was a time when it was the golden years in the UFC from a fan's perspective. It was when Demetrious Johnson, Dominic Cruz, Aldo, GSP, Anderson Sliva, Jon Jones and Cain were all title holders at the same time. Good times.
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December 21, 2022, 11:03:42 AM Last edit: December 21, 2022, 11:45:02 AM by TopTort777 |
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It's def wrong to say the UFC is past its prime. As a company, it's more than thrice over larger than what it was 10 years ago and they're still growing. They have the biggest PPV events in MMA, biggest non PPV events and obv have the biggest roster of fighters. And it's not just that, they have most of the best fighters in MMA.
And it's funny how the other guy doubles down and says the Eagle FC is close to the UFC's level. Khabib is just starting to realize how hard it is to be a promoter.
But I will say this, there was a time when it was the golden years in the UFC from a fan's perspective. It was when Demetrious Johnson, Dominic Cruz, Aldo, GSP, Anderson Sliva, Jon Jones and Cain were all title holders at the same time. Good times.
I have re-read his post and is seems that he said opposite - "there is no MMA promotion that is close to UFC level of fame". But the fact that he has mentioned Eagle FC shows that he is a new guy here ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Bellator seems to be the most popular and biggest among "MMA but not UFC" promotions. Strikeforce used to be one step below UFC. They also had regular events, big name and huge rewards. But UFC bought them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think he is confusing crazy hype and overall popularity. During Khabib vs McGregor, world media was indeed more on a hype than today. Did you notice, that after Drew Dober beat Bobby Green this weekend, he has now in lightweights top15, and, we see no Tony Ferguson there now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 21, 2022, 03:19:29 PM |
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It's def wrong to say the UFC is past its prime. As a company, it's more than thrice over larger than what it was 10 years ago and they're still growing. They have the biggest PPV events in MMA, biggest non PPV events and obv have the biggest roster of fighters. And it's not just that, they have most of the best fighters in MMA. And it's funny how the other guy doubles down and says the Eagle FC is close to the UFC's level. Khabib is just starting to realize how hard it is to be a promoter. But I will say this, there was a time when it was the golden years in the UFC from a fan's perspective. It was when Demetrious Johnson, Dominic Cruz, Aldo, GSP, Anderson Sliva, Jon Jones and Cain were all title holders at the same time. Good times.
I have re-read his post and is seems that he said opposite - "there is no MMA promotion that is close to UFC level of fame". But the fact that he has mentioned Eagle FC shows that he is a new guy here ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Bellator seems to be the most popular and biggest among "MMA but not UFC" promotions. Strikeforce used to be one step below UFC. They also had regular events, big name and huge rewards. But UFC bought them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think he is confusing crazy hype and overall popularity. During Khabib vs McGregor, world media was indeed more on a hype than today. Did you notice, that after Drew Dober beat Bobby Green this weekend, he has now in lightweights top15, and, we see no Tony Ferguson there now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I very well understand what you’re trying to convey. You guys are saying that UFC is obviously the biggest MMA organization ever. I absolutely agree with that. You guys are also saying that I should not have compared UFC with Eagle FC. I will admit that it was not a suitable comparison. But as far as I know, Eagle FC is growing in popularity quite quickly. I wanted to say that even though it only started recently, it will take them a long time to get close to UFC's popularity. If you think that I am wrong, then what were the times when "UFC were in prime"?
Another thing is, I said UFC is not in its prime. There are two reasons for that. First of all as far as we know the pay-per-view is decreasing day by day. And obviously, I am obliged to say that prime time was when Conor McGregor was in his prime. He was bringing unbelievable numbers for Dana White. So, I believe that was prime time for UFC. And the popularity of UFC is certainly not the same as it was at that time. And secondly, I am sure we are all aware of a certain wrestling organization named WWE. I don’t think Dana White is doing a good enough job when something fake is generating more annual revenue. I want UFC to surpass the popularity of WWE.
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Because it is mixed martial arts, it covers all cultures, which makes this organization more attractive. I find it weird that people want to fight here, they can get a better career and better money in Boxing. In order to do MMA, you need to bring at least 2-3 sports branches to the best level. The fact that it is so troublesome makes this sport special. I hope that the wages paid for the athletes will be balanced in the future, this needs to happen.
Well, just my opinion, many are used to just watching boxing, but with other mixed martial arts they seem not knowledgable about it and some without the knowledge of Jui-Jitsu dub it as boring and I will be true here at 1st that I was really clueless about MMA that it has this wrestling and grappling on the ground I think it was really boring at 1st, but knowing and understanding those technique executed with precision I surely learn to love it, and seeing Khabib Nurmagomedov for the 1st time I was really in love with his technique with his ground games and how he executes it easily, Well in terms of payment I think Boxing in exhibition matches tends to have much payment but with regular boxing matches I think boxing still does have much sponsorship, because boxing are well known than with MMA or maybe Dana White sure has promotion but still controlling the payments of his fighter, I like Paddy the baddy because he is an annoyance to everyone hehe. However, I very much agree with your assessment and if we force ourselves to see the reality after the fight versus Jared Gordon, the hypetrain is already beginning to derail. What can Dana presently do for him? His skills are not enough to enter top 10 in his weight division, he has no discipline with his body and he now cannot speak against hand sanitizer boy because no one would believe him. Hand sanitizer boy would kill him within 5 minutes hehehe.
I am seeing a fight picking again, but all Dana White is doing is getting this kid's head to explode because he surely has too much about himself instead of helping him to have the quality of training he can get, it is just false hope in getting ready for the top fighters of the UFC, for me, it is not really helping it just creeps up to Paddy's head that he is the best, for me right now that hype is already derailed, Jared Gordon just explodes him so much and dominating the division is very impossible with those top fighters in that division, To many people, Jiu Jitsu, wrestling can seem boring. I have been enjoying it very much from the very beginning, it varies from person to person. Because as a matter of fact, Jiu Jitsu is a very very specific branch, I think you need to know a little about the subject to enjoy it. How to make armbar, how to do defense, then you start to guess while watching the fight, in which position, which temporary will do. I think they are very valuable because they are a complete flow. I've heard that the UFC is on the decline, no, there were some great promotions this year. There were fights that I watched with great excitement. Therefore, maybe it may decline, due to the decisions taken in the results. There are still many referee decisions that are discussed in UFC. I even heard that an investigation was launched for a referee.
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~ I am going to stick to my words and say that UFC is not in its prime days anymore. But as you said, the dream of every kid as a fighter is to fight in the UFC. Because even though UFC is not in its prime anymore, UFC is still the biggest mixed Martial art organization till now. To rest this debate, i will ask you to check the revenue they are earning in the last 6 years and the revenue they used to earn before that. UFC is more popular and mainstream at this juncture and there are more fans globally watching the sports than ever and you think that it is not the prime days for the UFC ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I don’t think there is any organization that can even get close to the UFC. The popularity of the UFC has certainly decreased, but still, other organizations like the Eagle FC or anything else have not even come close to that UFC. I think there is another reason for that which is a lot of popular fighters are choosing to go into boxing right now because that brings a lot more money than the UFC.
Another thing is, I would say, that the popularity of the UFC is certainly decreasing, but not at a level that can be considered as “dying“.
There was a time when there were Organizations like Pride, Strikeforce, Dream which were more popular than the UFC during that time period and the best fighters were on those promotions but eventually they all closed their doors and now UFC is the only major player. I think you have the wrong theory about boxers making huge money than MMA fighters. In boxing only the top draw makes the money which is the main event, the rest of the fighters in the card makes much less than fighters in the UFC. So the idea of making money through boxing you need years to reach those level and not everyone reaches those levels nor becomes a champion but in MMA you do not need to be a champion to make half a million dollars per fight.
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