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And I also think that Covington versus Edwards is going to be a good pay per view on generator for the UFC. But the question is, is that going to happen?
It could be as the event is gonna be in London. The crowd over there are louder, rowdier and overall just more fun. But what's interesting with this match up is the way it was set up. I got Covington as the more likely winner here and if he does win, it sets up another rematch against Usman... And this time it's gonna be Covington holding the belt. Either could win but I don't think Edwards could handle Covington's pressure. The loser of the match gets to fight Chimaev. Lmao. I think you got confused. You're talking about Islam Makhachev. And yes, Volk is moving up to 155 and is going for Makhachev's belt. And if Volk wins, he gets to be double champ. One title at 145 and another one at 155. If Makhachev wins then he defended his belt at 155 and Volk doesn't lose his belt at 145. That's how it works.
This is going to be fight to watch and not miss, but changing category and moving up can often be hard for fighters. First thing I think is how Adesanya looked weaker when he moved to test himself in light heavyweight category. Volkanovski has slight reach advantage but Makhachev is much taller and he has Khabib in his corner, and Khabib's father said that Makhacev is his best student. My early predictions and bet would be on Islam Makhachev to win, but many things can change until then. I think Makhachev is levels above everybody in the UFC. We'll be seeing him hold the 155 belt for a long time imho.
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December 28, 2022, 08:23:23 AM |
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Stephan Bonnar is someone who was not looked after since he retired. A lot of people are saying that he is someone who saved that fighting game. In a sense, he actually did. As I am hearing, he did not get proper treatment from the hospitals. That really should have never happened. He was the savior when it was really rough times for the UFC. He died relatively young. RIP legend.
Well even though he is a legend and kind of saves the entertainment for the MMA, well some of it because he is not really alone and I think Forrest Griffin is always there when they clash in a beautiful fight that night, but sadly to say it is not the company responsible anymore to answer those medical bills it is not their responsibility anymore if you are not competing or you are not within the company anymore, but they can surely give donations to Stephan Bonnar for his medical bills but Stephan Bonnar is a hall of fame fighter for the UFC and I think that is enough, There are rumors (that likely to be true) that we wont see Leon Edwards vs Kamaru Usman fight, as Usman has some serious issues with his knees (probably gonna have a surgery). That is why UFC have in plans to organize Edwards vs Chimaev fight. That is what Dana White said recently, added that he does not see any other perfect fight match for Edwards. If rumors are true, it will be up to Edwards to select his real opponent. What do you think about this guys?
Now if Kamaru Usman can not have a rematch against Leon Edwards I think Khamzat Chimaev is ready to fight Edwards, as they have an unsettled fight because, on January 20, 2021, they have a canceled fight so surely this fight needs to happen, and if this fight could materialize I will surely root for Khamzat Chimaev winning it,
Right now I am really frustrated because we got no event this holiday end, but surely next year will be a great year for us because at the start of the year we will be having the UFC Fight Night: Imavov vs. Gastelum event, and from that event, for me, I am anticipating the Geoff Neal VS Shavkat Rakhmonov fight to be a real banger, and next event was UFC 283: Teixeira vs. Hill surely the main event will be juicy, and this is their trilogy fight and it will surely settle the score if who really deserves the title belt, The UFC 284 | Makhachev vs. Volkanovski event that will have so much juicy and well-known fight plus the UFC Fight Night | Vera vs. Sandhagen for me is surely a wait to behold,
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The tricky situation with Khamzat is that he might throw something unexpected. And he will think that is normal to do that. I think that Khamzat is on a wrong hype train. He thinks that he is such a huge star, that Dana will let him free what ever he wants to do. How about missing weight and due that mixing whole card, just ti save an event? Be my guest. I did not hear that Khamzat faced any punishment for that.
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December 28, 2022, 10:16:41 AM |
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And yup, Volk really has fought almost everybody at the top in his weight class that he needs to move up and fight at 155. It's good timing too imho. When was the last time we had a couple of champs in the cage?
In UFC's men it's Henry Cejudo where he get flyweight belt on 2018 and bantamweight belt in 2019, but he's already retired. While the in the UFC's women it's Amanda Nunes who get featherweight belt on 2018 and bantamweight belt on 2022, it's only 17 fighters who get two belts in history [1] The tricky situation with Khamzat is that he might throw something unexpected. And he will think that is normal to do that. I think that Khamzat is on a wrong hype train. He thinks that he is such a huge star, that Dana will let him free what ever he wants to do. How about missing weight and due that mixing whole card, just ti save an event? Be my guest. I did not hear that Khamzat faced any punishment for that.
If Dana White still continue this kind behavior, it would ruin UFC reputation since many fans was very disappointed when Khamzat Chimaev vs Nate Diaz wasn't happen. Actually Chimaev was at welterweight division, not at middleweight division in UFC.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_champions_in_MMA
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December 28, 2022, 12:29:06 PM |
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The tricky situation with Khamzat is that he might throw something unexpected. And he will think that is normal to do that. I think that Khamzat is on a wrong hype train. He thinks that he is such a huge star, that Dana will let him free what ever he wants to do. How about missing weight and due that mixing whole card, just ti save an event? Be my guest. I did not hear that Khamzat faced any punishment for that.
Well! in today's MMA tournament you need to know how to sell your fight or you might even need to push your limits to promote it just like what happened to Mcgregor when he throws that chair and injured some people inside it but no one really cares because of how popular he is back then. And today, you have Khamzat who really wants to have a big fight to create a legacy in the UFC and I think he really needs to be fighting a really competent opponent in his next fight that could give him a real pain to beat because it's started to get boring nowadays when you only wins against your opponent via submission. I missed the old days when they really knockout their opponents due to some right-angle punches.
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December 28, 2022, 12:49:08 PM |
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The tricky situation with Khamzat is that he might throw something unexpected. And he will think that is normal to do that. I think that Khamzat is on a wrong hype train. He thinks that he is such a huge star, that Dana will let him free what ever he wants to do. How about missing weight and due that mixing whole card, just ti save an event? Be my guest. I did not hear that Khamzat faced any punishment for that.
Well! in today's MMA tournament you need to know how to sell your fight or you might even need to push your limits to promote it just like what happened to Mcgregor when he throws that chair and injured some people inside it but no one really cares because of how popular he is back then. And today, you have Khamzat who really wants to have a big fight to create a legacy in the UFC and I think he really needs to be fighting a really competent opponent in his next fight that could give him a real pain to beat because it's started to get boring nowadays when you only wins against your opponent via submission. I missed the old days when they really knockout their opponents due to some right-angle punches. Khamzat's situation is that no one wants to fight him. Although I think Covington can defeat him, he might not risk fighting Khamzat. Usman would be good but he's also injured and the hype for a rematch against Edwards is already a running train that's more than likely to happen soon. But it's true that Connor did a lot worse to make noise than Khamzat. Dana perhaps has more plans for him, if Khamzat is going to add more weight he'll be fighting a lot more than bulldozing those in the Welterweight.
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It is not that no one wants to fight Khamzat, it is that no one from high position in top wants to fight him. There is one guy that I think can give him a good competition in fight - Shavkat Rakhmonov. He is 16-0. He is on top10 of welterweight. Shavkat had his last fight in June 2022, soon he will face Geoff Neal, if he wins it is about time he should have a fight against Khamzat. Also Khamzat is more than welcomed in middleweight. Pereira, Adesanya, Whittaker - these guys would love to beat Khamzats ass.
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December 29, 2022, 01:18:30 AM |
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And I also think that Covington versus Edwards is going to be a good pay per view on generator for the UFC. But the question is, is that going to happen?
It could be as the event is gonna be in London. The crowd over there are louder, rowdier and overall just more fun. But what's interesting with this match up is the way it was set up. I got Covington as the more likely winner here and if he does win, it sets up another rematch against Usman... And this time it's gonna be Covington holding the belt. Either could win but I don't think Edwards could handle Covington's pressure. The loser of the match gets to fight Chimaev. Lmao. Covington should win in this matchup in my opinion as well. I just don’t see Leon Edwards winning against Colby Covington. At least not right now. Covington has a good all-round skills, and he also has the technical edge over Edwards. And Covington winning and setting up a rematch against Osman is going to be absolutely great for the UFC as well. They will be able to get a good amount of pay per view as well. But the loser fighting against Khamzat is going to be hilarious ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . For that reason, I believe fighters are going to want to win. Duke Khan
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I think Makhachev is levels above everybody in the UFC. We'll be seeing him hold the 155 belt for a long time imho.
He is class above many fighters but Volkanovski is a different beast and he lost only one fight in his MMA carrier back in 2013 when he was starting. One way for him to win against Makhachev is to came fast and furious in first round and KO him quickly. Volkanovski is better in stand up but if it goes to ground and more rounds I think Makhachev wins.
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December 29, 2022, 12:36:35 PM |
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I think Makhachev is levels above everybody in the UFC. We'll be seeing him hold the 155 belt for a long time imho.
He is class above many fighters but Volkanovski is a different beast and he lost only one fight in his MMA carrier back in 2013 when he was starting. One way for him to win against Makhachev is to came fast and furious in first round and KO him quickly. Volkanovski is better in stand up but if it goes to ground and more rounds I think Makhachev wins. Makachev seems invincible in his prime. But we will see how he performs against the top contenders in his division. Volkanovski is an amazing fighter and is becoming unbeatable in his division. But I think he is small at lightweight. Maybe he can fight well against the other top lightweights that are chinny but Makachev is on a different level. I hope to see them in a competitive fight but in my mind, Volkanovski doesn't possess the needed power to keep Makachev at bay. Volkanovski might not be able to stop Makachev from taking him down. And it will be one-sided once they are in the ground.
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December 29, 2022, 02:59:39 PM |
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I think Makhachev is levels above everybody in the UFC. We'll be seeing him hold the 155 belt for a long time imho.
He is class above many fighters but Volkanovski is a different beast and he lost only one fight in his MMA carrier back in 2013 when he was starting. One way for him to win against Makhachev is to came fast and furious in first round and KO him quickly. Volkanovski is better in stand up but if it goes to ground and more rounds I think Makhachev wins. Makachev seems invincible in his prime. But we will see how he performs against the top contenders in his division. Volkanovski is an amazing fighter and is becoming unbeatable in his division. But I think he is small at lightweight. Maybe he can fight well against the other top lightweights that are chinny but Makachev is on a different level. I hope to see them in a competitive fight but in my mind, Volkanovski doesn't possess the needed power to keep Makachev at bay. Volkanovski might not be able to stop Makachev from taking him down. And it will be one-sided once they are in the ground. I think they are just right to be matched. Volkanovski can defeat Makachev with just one punch, as long as he can defend himself from takedowns, Makachev is just a punch from defeat. He has all the qualifications as relentless as he is in his division and continues to win. But I would say defeating a Dagestani wrestler such as Makachev will be a great test for a smaller guy like Volkanovski. It's risky when you just put it a factor that Makachev beats Oliveira.
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December 29, 2022, 03:59:40 PM |
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The fight between Volkanovski and Makhachev is rather strange, because if you see Volkanovski opponents, most of them pure strikers or fighters whos striking skills were primary. Makhachev is a very inconvenient opponent for Volkanovski. Not to mention that Makhachev is 10sm higher than Volkanovski. A lot of factors is against Volkanovski. I was actually very surprised that Makhachev challenged Volkanovski after his victory over Oliveira, and how Alexander quickly accepted that challenge.
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It is not that no one wants to fight Khamzat, it is that no one from high position in top wants to fight him. There is one guy that I think can give him a good competition in fight - Shavkat Rakhmonov. He is 16-0. He is on top10 of welterweight. Shavkat had his last fight in June 2022, soon he will face Geoff Neal, if he wins it is about time he should have a fight against Khamzat. Also Khamzat is more than welcomed in middleweight. Pereira, Adesanya, Whittaker - these guys would love to beat Khamzats ass.
The problem is Khamzat is probably not going to go to middle weight. He is doing well in his weight class right now. And even though he also knows that he will get a good and better opponent if he goes to middleweight, why would he do that when he is basically the undisputed king of his current weight class right now? He is smashing everyone here and no one wants to fight him right now. I think facing Shavkat against him can be a good idea. And the UFC will have to pray for Khamzat to lose because that’s what the fans want to see right now.
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December 30, 2022, 08:32:04 AM |
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The tricky situation with Khamzat is that he might throw something unexpected. And he will think that is normal to do that. I think that Khamzat is on a wrong hype train. He thinks that he is such a huge star, that Dana will let him free what ever he wants to do. How about missing weight and due that mixing whole card, just ti save an event? Be my guest. I did not hear that Khamzat faced any punishment for that.
Nope! no punishment at all, well for me even though Khamzat Chimaev had a bad reputation for some fans or fans turning against him because of one thing he did, for we can not deny how great of a fighter Chimaev was, and with that one bad thing that he did to be a judge like that I think he deserves a 2nd chance and because there is a Controversy about that event and judging there are many supports for Nate Diaz and that support doesn't want to their idol be messed up by Chimaev, or there are some fans that don't want to watch Nate Diaz getting beat up pretty badly so instead boycotting the fight, and some really knows that Diaz doesn't really stand a chance against Chimaev and so the sales are getting really low, I think this comes to conclusion for the UFC to make a decision to scramble the event and to do this they need a diversion or an alibi and Khamzat Chimaev for me he has been used by the UFC for this to happen and so a great Legendary fight of Nate Diaz and Tony Fergusson was born, and the sales skyrocketed and this is thanks to Chimaev, doing the shit things he could think, Well! in today's MMA tournament you need to know how to sell your fight or you might even need to push your limits to promote it just like what happened to Mcgregor when he throws that chair and injured some people inside it but no one really cares because of how popular he is back then. And today, you have Khamzat who really wants to have a big fight to create a legacy in the UFC and I think he really needs to be fighting a really competent opponent in his next fight that could give him a real pain to beat because it's started to get boring nowadays when you only wins against your opponent via submission. I missed the old days when they really knockout their opponents due to some right-angle punches.
Drama is necessary and it is pretty much normal for an event like this to make sales for me the Khamzat Chimaev VS Nate Diaz was not really making enough sales but I think Chimaev and Kevin Holland just got enough beef so they have used this too and said that there is a catastrophic something on backstage happening and for UFC to make an opportunity for this to shift the fight which is a 1st time that happens, and I think a 1 bad move for Chimaev doesn't mean you will surely forget how great he is inside the octagon,
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Still dont like that Chimaev got away clean last time. Usually when fighters did not make weight, they get reward reduction. Instead he has got a Holland, who is extra weak against wrestlers. Imagine you prepare to geometry exam, but on the exam you get a list with chemistry questions. And not only you, but whole class got their exams mixed. In addition - dont forget that middle finger Khamzat showed every one during weight ins. Such a huge disrespect to everyone. Awful. This goes 200% across the discipline and respect Muslims follow. And that rat lio got away like nothing happened. Like he is a God and biggest UFC star. He should have performed better against Burns instead…
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Right now I am really frustrated because we got no event this holiday end, but surely next year will be a great year for us because at the start of the year we will be having the UFC Fight Night: Imavov vs. Gastelum event, and from that event, for me, I am anticipating the Geoff Neal VS Shavkat Rakhmonov fight to be a real banger, and next event was UFC 283: Teixeira vs. Hill surely the main event will be juicy, and this is their trilogy fight and it will surely settle the score if who really deserves the title belt, The UFC 284 | Makhachev vs. Volkanovski event that will have so much juicy and well-known fight plus the UFC Fight Night | Vera vs. Sandhagen for me is surely a wait to behold,
Yup, Rakhmonov is pretty good. I fancy him getting a title shot anytime during 2023 and could even win depending on who sits as the champ. A couple more high level fights and he's right up there. I just hope the UFC won't do a prospect vs prospect match up and have him go against Chimaev like what they did with Topuria vs Mitchell. The fight between Volkanovski and Makhachev is rather strange, because if you see Volkanovski opponents, most of them pure strikers or fighters whos striking skills were primary. Makhachev is a very inconvenient opponent for Volkanovski. Not to mention that Makhachev is 10sm higher than Volkanovski. A lot of factors is against Volkanovski. I was actually very surprised that Makhachev challenged Volkanovski after his victory over Oliveira, and how Alexander quickly accepted that challenge.
Volk went against Brian Ortega and escaped from a mounted guilloutine which like should never happen. Lol. It pretty much shows how tooough Volk is. I got Makhachev to win but it could be close than what the lines suggest. I wouldn't touch Makhachev in a single at anything lower than 1.50.
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The fight between Volkanovski and Makhachev is rather strange, because if you see Volkanovski opponents, most of them pure strikers or fighters whos striking skills were primary. Makhachev is a very inconvenient opponent for Volkanovski. Not to mention that Makhachev is 10sm higher than Volkanovski. A lot of factors is against Volkanovski. I was actually very surprised that Makhachev challenged Volkanovski after his victory over Oliveira, and how Alexander quickly accepted that challenge.
Volk went against Brian Ortega and escaped from a mounted guilloutine which like should never happen. Lol. It pretty much shows how tooough Volk is. I got Makhachev to win but it could be close than what the lines suggest. I wouldn't touch Makhachev in a single at anything lower than 1.50. Or how tough and thick Volkanovskis neck is lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Try my imagination - if Makhachev would have closed that guillotine, with Khabib in his corner, it will be much more complicated for Volkanovski to escape. Anyway, impressed that Volkanovski has accepted that fight. The man got huge balls, as he has accepted a challenge from a very dangerous opponent. He is not like rest of lightweight division, that has been avoiding Makhachev for months to save their record. What do you think will Volkanovski would do if he wins? Will he get back to featherweight, or will stay in lightweight? Seems that featherweight is to tight for Volkanovski.
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I guess I haven't fallen for the hype of Makachev as much as others. I think he's very beatable, and once people figure that out, I don't think he'll be a world beater that the UFC, and certain fans are pushing for. I know its natural to want a world beater every generation, and especially after one of them retired recently. However, I just don't think he's going to live up to expectations.
That doesn't mean he isn't, and won't be a great fighter that goes down in the history of the UFC. I just don't think he's invincible as he's being claimed to be. I think he's shown several weaknesses in his fights already, let alone once he starts fighting fighters that aren't a perfect match up for him. Volk will seriously test him, and I'd fancy Volk to take it, quite convincingly.
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I guess I haven't fallen for the hype of Makachev as much as others. I think he's very beatable, and once people figure that out, I don't think he'll be a world beater that the UFC, and certain fans are pushing for. I know its natural to want a world beater every generation, and especially after one of them retired recently. However, I just don't think he's going to live up to expectations.
That doesn't mean he isn't, and won't be a great fighter that goes down in the history of the UFC. I just don't think he's invincible as he's being claimed to be. I think he's shown several weaknesses in his fights already, let alone once he starts fighting fighters that aren't a perfect match up for him. Volk will seriously test him, and I'd fancy Volk to take it, quite convincingly.
Makachev hasn't defended his title yet. He is already a great fighter but he will be tested by capable guys such as Volkanov. People are hyped because he is trained by Khabib to be like him. Like many others before him, he will have to move to another division after defending his title countless times otherwise he will scare potential MMArtist in the lightweight and Dana doesn't like that.
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Welsh post on “Predator universe language”: “if it bleeds, it can be killed” ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree that there is a special hype around Makhachev, but mostly because of Khabib and his father. A lot of people say, that Makhachev, compared to Khabib and Oliveira (as a formal champ), did not fought anyone seriour, anyone from real top. This is yes and not. I think Islam offered many lightweights to fight, but they refuse his offer. Partly agree that Volkanovski is going to be a big test. Islam was first to challenge him, which means he and his team strongly believe that they can beat him. Islam needs someone whos bjj and wrestling skills are primary, like Oliveira. Who is dangerous everywhere, when Alex rely more on his cardio, striking and chin.
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