⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[masulum]

It doesn't matter not to win the EPL this season, but with UCL champions, of course everything is cured because we know the most prestigious title is UCL which hopes for all European teams.

Yes, but next season will be a difficult season for Chelsea, become a club as defending champion at UCL, maybe it will be a little bit hard for players, Tuchel may also be required to give more trophies by the Chelsea board. If they fail at the EPL, and also fail at the UCL, I think he only has half the season to managed Chelsea next season or another chance till half of season 2022-2023. Because, if Chelsea thinks it is impossible for tuchel to give another trophy, the decision to dismissal will be taken immediately, they are not looking for a loyal coach, but a coach who gives a trophy.

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[Iranus]

It doesn't matter not to win the EPL this season, but with UCL champions, of course everything is cured because we know the most prestigious title is UCL which hopes for all European teams.

Yes, but next season will be a difficult season for Chelsea, become a club as defending champion at UCL, maybe it will be a little bit hard for players, Tuchel may also be required to give more trophies by the Chelsea board. If they fail at the EPL, and also fail at the UCL, I think he only has half the season to managed Chelsea next season or another chance till half of season 2022-2023. Because, if Chelsea thinks it is impossible for tuchel to give another trophy, the decision to dismissal will be taken immediately, they are not looking for a loyal coach, but a coach who gives a trophy.

If Chelsea sack Tuchel, all their dreams of winning the title will be ruined. I think the Champions League title this season has been won by Chelsea only because of Tuchel's remarkable match strategy. Of course, Chelsea's players played well, but without Tuchel's great match strategy, they would not have won the title.

[BIT-BENDER]

I will not say much other than pensive watching Chelsea celebrate the victory in the final yesterday. I don't think Manchester City played badly because during the game they had chances to score but luck was not on their side. Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final. Everything was not as expected and they failed to win this title for the first time.

Actually they - Manchester city- has never won this title this is their first final and this would be Chelsea second time to win it in three champions league final. I don't have any fault With Manchester city, and I think no credit should go away from Chelsea by bringing luck into it. Ngolo kante for amazing and very exciting in the match, I think he was the difference between the two teams.
I don't know but I feel tuchel did a good background study of Manchester city and pep more than any other English club before come to the bridge, and it's paying off for Chelsea, can Chelsea win the premier league? I think so.

[Soonandwaite]

wow. i didn't expect such a result. i expected Manchester to win. and of course I bet a little on Manchester and lost the bet.
Kai Havertz and anthonio Rüdiger both played a great game. but all the other Chelsea players were also very well prepared for the final game by Thomas Tuchel.
and I hope that Kevin De Bruyne gets well quickly and can play again at the European football championships. He has already written on twitter


Quote from twitter https://twitter.com/DeBruyneKev        

[AakZaki]

My bet was, again, not correct  (2-1 for ManCity).
~snip~

I think many are guessing the win for Man City. Actually I also championed Man City but I didn't bet earlier. I read that there are many discussions here that champion Man City. Congratulations to Chelsea you broke a boring final, the games before that could not describe the final. Tuchel was really effective, with just one goal, small ball possession, and tight in defense. All of that frustrates Man City. Mendy and Kante are also doing great he remains my idol during matches. Kante ran the whole match, I thought he was like a horse, his strength was incredible.

[slaman29]

Few weeks to the UCL finals, I believed and predicted that Mancity will win. But few minutes to the final when I saw the line up, it became obvious to me that Chelsea will take the day.
Tuchel came up with a strong midfield and a natural striker.
Mancity in the other hand came up with strong midfield without a natural striker. I was shocked Guardiola came up with his well mastered tactics by all.

It is therefore very important that when gambling, we should wait till the eleventh hour to know the formation of the club, form of the players, weather, mentality of the team for that day's match. I lost my money but I have learnt my lessons.

Show us your betslips then. Easy for anyone to say this but if you're only "learning your lessons" now then you're definitely not long in gambling. Plenty of people think there are lessons to learn but learn the wrong ones. Good luck to you though;)

There are many ways to do sportsbet but for sure the wisest ways are to wait as close to the game as possible unless you are an odds hunter then you don't really do too much analysis.

[Mahdirakib]

wow. i didn't expect such a result. i expected Manchester to win. and of course I bet a little on Manchester and lost the bet.
Kai Havertz and anthonio Rüdiger both played a great game. but all the other Chelsea players were also very well prepared for the final game by Thomas Tuchel.
and I hope that Kevin De Bruyne gets well quickly and can play again at the European football championships. He has already written on twitter ~snip~

Most of the people thought that Manchester City will win the game easily, even the betting odds for Manchester City was half of Chelsea at every betting platform. But my expectation was different and I placed a bet on Chelsea. Although my bet amount was small but I made pretty good profit for the higher odds. BTW, update the twitter account link of Kevin De Bruyne, your provided link doesn't working.

[Coyster]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

[muratsink]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

Pep Guardiola always failed to defeat Thomas Tuchel what ever competition not only on primer league, bundesliga until champion league always never have any way how to defeat with Thomas Tuchel team, I think most applause how midfielder from Chelsea manage by Kante give more contribution, not only for defensive but also Kante become key for Chelsea when attacking.

[hahay]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

Pep Guardiola always failed to defeat Thomas Tuchel what ever competition not only on primer league, bundesliga until champion league always never have any way how to defeat with Thomas Tuchel team, I think most applause how midfielder from Chelsea manage by Kante give more contribution, not only for defensive but also Kante become key for Chelsea when attacking.

Thomas Tuchel has a big magic that not all coaches can do, in yesterday's final it was clear Chelsea were very good from every front and especially about Kante. Although for most of the second half City continued to make attacks, it was very visible that City seemed to be dead to make attacks that could produce goals. Chelsea are playing very neatly and there is no visible gap in the field, so it's no wonder I see Chelsea who are always alive but City look like they are dead because they can't do much in the match.

[JeromeTash]

guys, 30 years old isn't old, if anything is about the time when a footballer is close to reaching his peak in performance. Seriously, this isn't FIFA   real life isn't a videogame where a players stats start to go down as soon as they hit the 30yo mark. Look at Lewa (32), Messi (33), Modric (36), Suarez (34), CR7 (36), Rakitic (33), Kroos (31), Benzema (33), Jordi Alba (32), Dani Parejo (32),Thiago Silva (36), etc, etc.

Most players actually peak before hitting 30 or slightly in their early thirties, but this is even rare. If you look at Messi and Ronaldo performances on pitch and stats. You will realize they were at the top of their games before hitting 30. Lets look at the stats

I have chosen because they are one of the world's best players, and it's easy to determine their stats based on goals scored since they are forwards.

Ronaldo                                                                                     Messi

 
 

See some pattern before and after the red lines?

[CryptocurencyKing]

Most players actually peak before hitting 30 or slightly in their early thirties, but this is even rare.

This is what Chelsea brought to the table, handing the UCL trophy to young players even before they hit there prime. Well, one thing to note about this team of players aside from the fact that it's filled mostly with a youthful team is that, they are coordinated. They ensure to put in there best and you could say it was a well deserved title, they merited it.

There is a motion I've been deliberating on and that is, if actually Frank Lampard the formal manager was the issue with the team, not that he wasn't doing great but it wasn't consistent and now, here is Thomas Tuchel with with this same team, went in and won the UCL finals.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

Pep Guardiola always failed to defeat Thomas Tuchel what ever competition not only on primer league, bundesliga until champion league always never have any way how to defeat with Thomas Tuchel team, I think most applause how midfielder from Chelsea manage by Kante give more contribution, not only for defensive but also Kante become key for Chelsea when attacking.

If the team loses people will blame the strategy used or if the team wins people will praise him this is normal right? Pep has experienced in various competitions, of course he knows what to do, to be sure we are not better than him. For me personally Chelsea is playing better and lucky so they deserve that title.

[arallmuus]

Most of the people thought that Manchester City will win the game easily, even the betting odds for Manchester City was half of Chelsea at every betting platform.

Well you gotta understand that City was way better than Chelsea for sure. They were great in the EPL and I doubt that any bookies will offer higher odds for City. I totally thought that City might make it back in the 2nd half but after De Bruyne was taken out, I knew for sure that it wont happen. If Chelsea has Kante then City has De Bruyne.

But my expectation was different and I placed a bet on Chelsea. Although my bet amount was small but I made pretty good profit

Glad that you made some.

provided link doesn't working.

You can go straight to De Bruyne's twitter account for the tweet

[BuNga_cute]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

Pep Guardiola always failed to defeat Thomas Tuchel what ever competition not only on primer league, bundesliga until champion league always never have any way how to defeat with Thomas Tuchel team, I think most applause how midfielder from Chelsea manage by Kante give more contribution, not only for defensive but also Kante become key for Chelsea when attacking.

If the team loses people will blame the strategy used or if the team wins people will praise him this is normal right? Pep has experienced in various competitions, of course he knows what to do, to be sure we are not better than him. For me personally Chelsea is playing better and lucky so they deserve that title.

With Manchester City's achievements and performance while Guardiola was coach, it was indeed extraordinary, so it is not wise for
Manchester City's failure to blame Guardiola. Chelsea managed to beat Man City in the final was a little lucky, and not because of
Guardiola's bad strategy. If we look at the match statistics of the two teams are almost the same, this proves that both teams do have
the same chance of winning. But Chelsea players are a little better off taking the opportunity to become a goal.

[vennali]

Talked about it during the semi finals itself about how Chelsea are the least expected team to win the champions league but are however the dark horse just like the last time they where in the Semis and surprised us all. They did it again. Their midfield and defense absolutely won them yet another Champions League.

[Mistafreeze]

If Chelsea has Kante then City has De Bruyne.

Kante >>>>> Kelvin

Kante had just 2 days to train for the champions league final after suffering from a hamstring a week before the game and yet he was over the pitch playing from the attack to the defence, won the MOTM 4 times in a row in the champions league. Kelvin was already in Kante's pocket in the midfield before he got the injury and was taken off... Kante don't disappear in big games unlike kelvin.

[AndySt]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

Has anyone thought that maybe Pep Guardiola changing the usual formation of players in the Champions League final is not just on a whim, but just wanted to break the bad streak that he had in recent matches with Chelsea Tuchel? Guardiola is a great coach and he has proved everything to everyone with titles with the teams he leads and at a long distance of the championship, Guardiola is best able to squeeze the best out of the squad he has, but in a particular match anything can happen and maybe everyone on the contrary admired the genius of Pep, if his idea worked or at least City used those few chances that were, for example, a shot at the end of the match, when the Chelsea goalkeeper was almost played and could only mentally beat the ball flying towards the goal.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Guardiola's strategy in the final may be questioned a lot because it looks different from before until reaching the final.

City would not win the UCL unless Pep stops thinking too much in the most important games of the competition, like the final yesterday, there was absolutely no reason not to stick with the team set-up that they have been using right from the group stage, I don't think I've watched a City match this season were they started without a defensive midfielder, but Pep chose to do so in the final, it's unacceptable to be honest, and Pep can take quite a lot of blame for city's failures last night.

Pep Guardiola always failed to defeat Thomas Tuchel what ever competition not only on primer league, bundesliga until champion league always never have any way how to defeat with Thomas Tuchel team, I think most applause how midfielder from Chelsea manage by Kante give more contribution, not only for defensive but also Kante become key for Chelsea when attacking.

If the team loses people will blame the strategy used or if the team wins people will praise him this is normal right? Pep has experienced in various competitions, of course he knows what to do, to be sure we are not better than him. For me personally Chelsea is playing better and lucky so they deserve that title.

With Manchester City's achievements and performance while Guardiola was coach, it was indeed extraordinary, so it is not wise for
Manchester City's failure to blame Guardiola. Chelsea managed to beat Man City in the final was a little lucky, and not because of
Guardiola's bad strategy. If we look at the match statistics of the two teams are almost the same, this proves that both teams do have
the same chance of winning. But Chelsea players are a little better off taking the opportunity to become a goal.

Yes indeed that is characteristic of Chelsea when playing, they rely on counterattacks through the speed of the players they did the same thing to Barcelona a few years ago and won. I'm not sure Pep forgot about that he must have prepared something for it just that we didn't see  in the last match. I think there is something that has not been issued by Pep.

[abhiseshakana]

Yes indeed that is characteristic of Chelsea when playing, they rely on counterattacks through the speed of the players they did the same thing to Barcelona a few years ago and won. I'm not sure Pep forgot about that he must have prepared something for it just that we didn't see  in the last match. I think there is something that has not been issued by Pep.

Chelsea is known as one of the English Premier League teams that has a very good counterattack. Meanwhile, Man City prioritizes ball possession, so that when the Chelsea players applying tight pressure, then Man City movement no longer thrives (of course this makes Man City frustrated).

Moreover, when the final match was held, the Chelsea players seemed never tired of chasing the ball (especially N'golo Kante), so that the pressure exerted by Chelsea never loosened until the game ended.