⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Turbolinea]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

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[tyz]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

Barca got themselves into the situation by drawing against Benfica. Had they won, they would have already qualified for the next round. Now they have to win against Bayern. Even a draw would not be enough if Benfica wins against Kiev, because then they would be equal on points, but in the direct comparison Barca would have the disadvantage.

[Hidrofor]

I can see that the Group G is also in an interesting condition now. The current look of the standings is like this:

1. Lille - 8 pts
2. Salzburg - 7 pts
3. Sevilla - 6 pts
4. Wolfsburg - 5 pts

The first two teams have two wins and the others have only one win. And there is still a chance for even Wolfsburg to promote to the next stage. Because they have a game in their stadium against Lille. If they win, they can promote as far as I can see the stats. It is weird to see Sevilla at the third place in a group like this. They are the most powerful team here. And I think that they can win vs Salzburg in the last game.

[S4VV4S]

The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.

Its not really about who needs the point most between Liverpool and Milan its a game of who controls the ball best and who makes better use of their chances. Both Milan and Liverpool either of the team would win. I will get two slips for the match then predict a straight win for Athletico Madrid even though it wouldn't be too easy playing against porto

What your prediction between Milan versus Liverpool which one will win if you? I think you prefer choose and predict Milan will win but I disagree because Liverpool want to create perfect on stage group by winning on all match, now Liverpool success win on five match and left one match with Milan, first leg on Anfield Milan success made Liverpool working hard before final score is 3-2 for Liverpool winning, but second leg I think the same Liverpool can defeat AC Milan maybe with three goals.

[Minecache]

After a 0-0 draw against Benfica which they could have won now Barcelona are in a very difficult situation, and Barcelona must win in their last game against Bayern Munich to ensure qualification for the last 16.
and it seems everyone can judge the performance of both teams during the match who is the best and Bayern Munich will be the favourites, and besides they will still field their best squad which I think Barcelona will be difficult to win even for a draw it seems not easy.
it looks like Benfica will accompany Bayern Munich who won Group E to the last 16 because Benfica against Dynamo Kiev will definitely win.

Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.
This is a key game of the season for Barcelona because if they fail to win second place in the group and continue to compete in the Champions League, it will be a huge psychological and financial shock for the whole club.
Realistically, the Europa League is a second-class and less important competition, which big clubs generally want to avoid if they can.

I really want Barcelona to win this match but considering their opponent is going to be Bayern Munich, I think they will face enough problems in this match. And I also don't think that Bayern will rest any of their key players, because I have seen Bayern Munich play their main squad against a really inferior team. So I think this is my feeling about the loss for Barcelona if something magical does not happen.

[Furious 7]

I can see that the Group G is also in an interesting condition now. The current look of the standings is like this:

1. Lille - 8 pts
2. Salzburg - 7 pts
3. Sevilla - 6 pts
4. Wolfsburg - 5 pts

The first two teams have two wins and the others have only one win. And there is still a chance for even Wolfsburg to promote to the next stage. Because they have a game in their stadium against Lille. If they win, they can promote as far as I can see the stats. It is weird to see Sevilla at the third place in a group like this. They are the most powerful team here. And I think that they can win vs Salzburg in the last game.

Whoever wins in this group there is a possibility of qualifying for the next round which is very interesting for me is the points are consecutive from 5 to 8 so this last match can be anxious for them to keep winning.
It looks like Lille has a great chance to win with Wolfsburg and Salzburg vs Sevilla will be an important match with a narrow point difference.

[OcTradism]

Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.

Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

This is a key game of the season for Barcelona because if they fail to win second place in the group and continue to compete in the Champions League, it will be a huge psychological and financial shock for the whole club.
Realistically, the Europa League is a second-class and less important competition, which big clubs generally want to avoid if they can.

It is vital point for Barcelona. They must do their best to be qualified as a second club in this group. If they fail and have to be delegated to Europa League, that will be a nightmare for future of their finance. Their finance is very bad after Bartomeu presidency and Laporta so far can not fix it. So a good income from Champions League can help them to prevent worse finance and terrible collapse.

[DanWalker]

The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.

Its not really about who needs the point most between Liverpool and Milan its a game of who controls the ball best and who makes better use of their chances. Both Milan and Liverpool either of the team would win. I will get two slips for the match then predict a straight win for Athletico Madrid even though it wouldn't be too easy playing against porto

@diderdrogba  I think that your prediction is correct and Liverpool will just take things easy as they have already qualified so that might just benefit Milan and they might get a win. And about Atletico Madrid vs Porto, I think that Atletico Madrid is a strong enough team to beat Porto. As Atletico Madrid shared points last time I think they will be motivated to win this time.

[izsara]

Barcelona is in a very difficult situation now and no longer depends only on itself but also on other clubs.
For Bayern, the match with Barcelona means nothing in terms of results and their coach may decide to rest some key players and thus maybe help Barcelona.

Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

even though barcelona's performance is currently improving, but indeed bayern is above them and even though victory or defeat when bayern meets barcelona doesn't mean anything but I don't think they want to be soft and lose just like that.
The decisive match for Barcelona and Bayern is unlikely to lose because of this.
I think it will be exciting whether Barcelona can progress smoothly or do they have to settle for losing again and hope that Benfica will also lose to kiyv.

[KTChampions]

Interesting odds before the final round:

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This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?

These odd indicating their current form which is worst in recent Champions League matches as they lost against Liverpool at home and away games and then lost against AC Milan at home they already have draw against Porto so probably most people's feeling now in away game they have very few chances of win and having to be in knock out stage where Porto is clearly favorite even they are playing draw against them at home on other side peoples feeling it's not easy for AC Milan to beat Liverpool at home with 100% record in Champions League.

But these all are just predictions and personal views still many things possible like AC Milan can lose at home and Atlético Madrid can win to go through now we have very few days all outcomes will happen in front of us lets wait and watch. .

In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.

[Minor Miner]

Interesting odds before the final round:

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This surprises me very much. Atlético has obvious chances to advance to the next stage - why such a strange odds?

These odd indicating their current form which is worst in recent Champions League matches as they lost against Liverpool at home and away games and then lost against AC Milan at home they already have draw against Porto so probably most people's feeling now in away game they have very few chances of win and having to be in knock out stage where Porto is clearly favorite even they are playing draw against them at home on other side peoples feeling it's not easy for AC Milan to beat Liverpool at home with 100% record in Champions League.

But these all are just predictions and personal views still many things possible like AC Milan can lose at home and Atlético Madrid can win to go through now we have very few days all outcomes will happen in front of us lets wait and watch. .

In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.

Although Atletico Madrid are not a weak team, their performance in the Champions League is poor. They have scored 4 points in 5 matches. I can't call their performance a good performance in such a situation. However, the situation is similar in Porto and AC MIlan in their group. Liverpool have qualified for the next round. Now the team that wins the next match will be able to qualify for the next round.

[joker_josue]

Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

For Barcelona to win the game, Bayern must play very badly. Even players who normally sit on Bayern bench are playing better than Barcelona best starter.
Now, of course there can be surprises, and it wouldn't be the first time.

Even so, I think it will be difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern (even if Bayer saves players, which I doubt).
For Bayern, it's even possible to eliminate Barcelona from the competition. You never know if they don't recover and beyond the competition things will get more difficult if they find each other again.

[S4VV4S]

I can see that the Group G is also in an interesting condition now. The current look of the standings is like this:

1. Lille - 8 pts
2. Salzburg - 7 pts
3. Sevilla - 6 pts
4. Wolfsburg - 5 pts

The first two teams have two wins and the others have only one win. And there is still a chance for even Wolfsburg to promote to the next stage. Because they have a game in their stadium against Lille. If they win, they can promote as far as I can see the stats. It is weird to see Sevilla at the third place in a group like this. They are the most powerful team here. And I think that they can win vs Salzburg in the last game.

The competition in Group G is very interesting and no team can be certain of qualifying at this time due to the sufficient difference in points between the 1st place and 4th ranked team. currently, if they manage to draw Wolfsburg, they can certainly qualify for the round of 16 regardless of the outcome of the match between Salzburg versus Sevilla. Match between Salzburg versus Sevilla is also a decisive match for both teams if they want to qualify from the group phase, Salzburg is enough to get a draw if in other matches Lille is able to win or draw with Wolfsburg.

[darewaller]

Liverpool could prioritize premier league as much as they want to, but that doesn't change the fact that other teams there prioritize it as well. The winner of EPL gets over 40 million pounds, and yes champions league still pays a bit more but that requires you to beat everyone for at least one game, probably in two games and elimination stage. Whereas league is a bit more forgiving, you could lose points here and there but you could still be champions, undefeated championship is not the aim, you could have ties and losses and still be champions very easily as long as you keep them to minimum.

UCL doesn't give that right, you end up getting eliminated if you lose too badly. Hence Liverpool could try their best at EPL but they would be facing many other teams with the same aim. Any team that wins EPL and UCL at the same time would have so much money to spend for the next season as well, maybe they should start focusing on that?

[Swordsoffreedom]

Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

For Barcelona to win the game, Bayern must play very badly. Even players who normally sit on Bayern bench are playing better than Barcelona best starter.
Now, of course there can be surprises, and it wouldn't be the first time.
Even so, I think it will be difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern (even if Bayer saves players, which I doubt).
For Bayern, it's even possible to eliminate Barcelona from the competition. You never know if they don't recover and beyond the competition things will get more difficult if they find each other again.

It is difficult but not impossible for Barcelona to beat Bayern Munich. Since this match is unimportant for Bayern Munich. So maybe they will put their key players on the bench. If that happens then Barcelona has a chance to win. However, Barcelona are now weaker than Bayern's second squad. If Xavi can improve Barcelona's performance by devising new plans and strategies, then maybe Barcelona has a chance to win.

[Velvet78]

Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.

[hahay]

Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.

Yes, the previous match against Benfica was a good chance for Barcelona to win because besides that, yesterday Barcelona played at home which of course Barcelona had to win but Benfica was able to suppress all attacks made by Barcelona. Basically Barcelona have been good by dominating the match but unfortunately the final result is still not as expected, and thus against Bayern Munich is something that is very difficult moreover, Barcelona play under a lot of pressure in many factors.

[Coyster]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

There is no way Bayern can let them win, that's obviously not allowed in football, the only thing you can say is that, Bayern will prolly field a weaker team to give other fringe players some game time as they have already qualified and topped the group as well, thus if that is the case, Barcelona then automatically have the advantage, but we'd have to see the team list for Bayern first.

Having said that, all the pressure will be on Barcelona, they can't afford to drop to the Europa league, it'll affect their club reputation, they'll be hoping Dynamo Kyiv puts up a fight against Benfica and they themselves get the result against Bayern, it's really going to be an interesting final matchday in that group, and the final outcome could have real consequences.

[joker_josue]

It is difficult but not impossible for Barcelona to beat Bayern Munich. Since this match is unimportant for Bayern Munich. So maybe they will put their key players on the bench. If that happens then Barcelona has a chance to win. However, Barcelona are now weaker than Bayern's second squad. If Xavi can improve Barcelona's performance by devising new plans and strategies, then maybe Barcelona has a chance to win.

This is true, but my analysis is made with a view to the future of the competition.

The market opens in January, it is true that financially Barcelona is not doing well, but being Barcelona it can be strengthened in the next transfer market. There is a chance that in a few months Barcelona will be much better.

If they stay in the competition, there could be a chance that Bayern will meet Barcelona again. Do they want this confrontation?
Maybe it's better that they've warded off a potential adversary now, rather than having to face him in the future.

That's why I think Bayern won't make this game easier.

[jakdanyel]

The Milan - Liverpool and Porto - Atletico Madrid matches are going to carry a big importance next week. Because except Liverpool's guaranteed position, the rest of the teams are still competing for the 2nd place. And they have one last chance. All of them would like to benefit from this chance very well. Porto are the most advantageous team now as they are one point ahead of Milan and Atletico both. In case they defeat Atletico, they are the qualifiers. However, I think Atletico will win that match. And Milan will also beat Liverpool and become the last qualifiers for the next round.