⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[poldanmig]

Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.

I totally agree with you, because I also think that the match against benfica is the only big chance that barcelona has to qualify, but unfortunately barcelona failed to take advantage of it well and made the match against bayern munchen their last hope for now, Even though Bayern Munich has certainly qualified, I don't think Bayern Munich will lose in last match and let Barcelona qualify for the next round.

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[Marvell1]

Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.

Yes, the previous match against Benfica was a good chance for Barcelona to win because besides that, yesterday Barcelona played at home which of course Barcelona had to win but Benfica was able to suppress all attacks made by Barcelona. Basically Barcelona have been good by dominating the match but unfortunately the final result is still not as expected, and thus against Bayern Munich is something that is very difficult moreover, Barcelona play under a lot of pressure in many factors.

I think that is Barcelona being under a lot of pressure should motivate them to perform well and if Bayern Munich actually places with their weaker team then I think Barcelona has a legend chance to win this match. But Barcelona does have to play well and I think ok as they are playing with more passes and tiki taka style it will be e effective against Bayern Munich.

[Turbolinea]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

Barca got themselves into the situation by drawing against Benfica. Had they won, they would have already qualified for the next round. Now they have to win against Bayern. Even a draw would not be enough if Benfica wins against Kiev, because then they would be equal on points, but in the direct comparison Barca would have the disadvantage.

Exactly! Barcelona should have played much better to be able to defeat Benfica and secure their place in the group stage. But they just got a 0-0 draw and made things even more difficult for themselves. We know how disciplined Bayern Munich are like always. Even if they guarantee something or not, they don't play like they don't care the remaining game(s). Barcelona need to have some luck also in that game.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

Barca got themselves into the situation by drawing against Benfica. Had they won, they would have already qualified for the next round. Now they have to win against Bayern. Even a draw would not be enough if Benfica wins against Kiev, because then they would be equal on points, but in the direct comparison Barca would have the disadvantage.

Exactly! Barcelona should have played much better to be able to defeat Benfica and secure their place in the group stage. But they just got a 0-0 draw and made things even more difficult for themselves. We know how disciplined Bayern Munich are like always. Even if they guarantee something or not, they don't play like they don't care the remaining game(s). Barcelona need to have some luck also in that game.

The fact is that the team that has not have the ability to win against Benfica. We should not expect such a team to win against Bayern Munich. Yet it is a football match, anything can happen on the field. But if Bayern play with their full strength, and if they really want to win this match, Barcelona will lose.

[S4VV4S]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

There is no way Bayern can let them win, that's obviously not allowed in football, the only thing you can say is that, Bayern will prolly field a weaker team to give other fringe players some game time as they have already qualified and topped the group as well, thus if that is the case, Barcelona then automatically have the advantage, but we'd have to see the team list for Bayern first.

Having said that, all the pressure will be on Barcelona, they can't afford to drop to the Europa league, it'll affect their club reputation, they'll be hoping Dynamo Kyiv puts up a fight against Benfica and they themselves get the result against Bayern, it's really going to be an interesting final matchday in that group, and the final outcome could have real consequences.

Barcelona should win against with Bayern if want pass to 16 round because champion league will use head to head format qualify to the next round if two club have the same points. Benfica looks easy to win from D Kyiv and will get eight points and Barcelona has seven points and if success get three points from Bayern they can qualify to next stage as runner up position, if match draw Barcelona will play on Europe league in this season and very funny to see Barcelona for the first time not success pass from group stage.

[DanWalker]

Barcelona are in a really troubling situation now in their group. Maybe they are still at the second position but they are only two points ahead of Benfica before the last matches. Benfica would defeat D. Kyiv easily most probably as D. Kyiv have no aim left in the CL. In that situation, Barcelona will have to defeat Bayern Munich away. Barcelona have started recovering as of Xavi's coming and they have made some changes in their game plan. But I wonder if Bayern Munich will let them win even though they are the leader of the group for certain.

There is no way Bayern can let them win, that's obviously not allowed in football, the only thing you can say is that, Bayern will prolly field a weaker team to give other fringe players some game time as they have already qualified and topped the group as well, thus if that is the case, Barcelona then automatically have the advantage, but we'd have to see the team list for Bayern first.
Having said that, all the pressure will be on Barcelona, they can't afford to drop to the Europa league, it'll affect their club reputation, they'll be hoping Dynamo Kyiv puts up a fight against Benfica and they themselves get the result against Bayern, it's really going to be an interesting final matchday in that group, and the final outcome could have real consequences.

I think that Barcelona will try their hardest to win against Bayern. And they obviously have to win if they want to qualify to the next level but I don't think that Bayern will let that happen and even though Bayern Munich might just form a weaker team Barcelona will still face a really big problem beat them.

[Cafex]

There is no way Bayern can let them win, that's obviously not allowed in football, the only thing you can say is that, Bayern will prolly field a weaker team to give other fringe players some game time as they have already qualified and topped the group as well, thus if that is the case, Barcelona then automatically have the advantage, but we'd have to see the team list for Bayern first.

Having said that, all the pressure will be on Barcelona, they can't afford to drop to the Europa league, it'll affect their club reputation, they'll be hoping Dynamo Kyiv puts up a fight against Benfica and they themselves get the result against Bayern, it's really going to be an interesting final matchday in that group, and the final outcome could have real consequences.

The best case scenario for Barcelona would be that Bayern Munich would rotate their squad in this match. Because they are already very comfortable and they are going to play a Bundesliga match by only a two-day rest. This seems to be a quite probable scenario in my opinion. If this happens, Barcelona have to make use of this last chance in the right way. Otherwise they will have to say goodbye to the CL.

[Tony116]

Bayern can destroy Barcelona again. They are stronger than Barcelona is a first reason, and a second reason is Barcelona still have issues with their whole system as well as their defense. Bayern are showing that they have some weaknesses that can be compromised by other clubs but I don't believe Barcelona can do it with what they have now.

For Barcelona to win the game, Bayern must play very badly. Even players who normally sit on Bayern bench are playing better than Barcelona best starter.
Now, of course there can be surprises, and it wouldn't be the first time.
Even so, I think it will be difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern (even if Bayer saves players, which I doubt).
For Bayern, it's even possible to eliminate Barcelona from the competition. You never know if they don't recover and beyond the competition things will get more difficult if they find each other again.

It is difficult but not impossible for Barcelona to beat Bayern Munich. Since this match is unimportant for Bayern Munich. So maybe they will put their key players on the bench. If that happens then Barcelona has a chance to win. However, Barcelona are now weaker than Bayern's second squad. If Xavi can improve Barcelona's performance by devising new plans and strategies, then maybe Barcelona has a chance to win.

Yes, I agree with you but the problem is we have to look at the Bayern Munich playing first. And hope that they are playing their second team. And I also think that Barcelona is a lot quicker than Bayern Munich right now but I do think that it is they can play really well they can come out as the winners.

[hahay]

Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.

Yes, the previous match against Benfica was a good chance for Barcelona to win because besides that, yesterday Barcelona played at home which of course Barcelona had to win but Benfica was able to suppress all attacks made by Barcelona. Basically Barcelona have been good by dominating the match but unfortunately the final result is still not as expected, and thus against Bayern Munich is something that is very difficult moreover, Barcelona play under a lot of pressure in many factors.

I think that is Barcelona being under a lot of pressure should motivate them to perform well and if Bayern Munich actually places with their weaker team then I think Barcelona has a legend chance to win this match. But Barcelona does have to play well and I think ok as they are playing with more passes and tiki taka style it will be e effective against Bayern Munich.

Not sure Bayern Munich will play second tier players, because after all both are great teams which of course their prestige will remain high and their target is always to win. It doesn't matter what kind of situation and condition each team is in, because the most important thing for them is a positive result which of course they will continue to aim for victory. Although indeed, it won't be a problem if Bayern Munich loses but I'm not sure Bayern Munich will relax the attack and even though Barcelona can play well, I still don't believe Barcelona will get points in this last match.

[joker_josue]

Not sure Bayern Munich will play second tier players, because after all both are great teams which of course their prestige will remain high and their target is always to win. It doesn't matter what kind of situation and condition each team is in, because the most important thing for them is a positive result which of course they will continue to aim for victory. Although indeed, it won't be a problem if Bayern Munich loses but I'm not sure Bayern Munich will relax the attack and even though Barcelona can play well, I still don't believe Barcelona will get points in this last match.

No more!
We cannot forget the monetary prize that teams receive for each victory. It's not just the fact that you qualify, every victory earns you a lot of money. I don't see the Germans giving that money easily to Barcelona.

[Jasad]

The Milan - Liverpool and Porto - Atletico Madrid matches are going to carry a big importance next week. Because except Liverpool's guaranteed position, the rest of the teams are still competing for the 2nd place. And they have one last chance. All of them would like to benefit from this chance very well. Porto are the most advantageous team now as they are one point ahead of Milan and Atletico both. In case they defeat Atletico, they are the qualifiers. However, I think Atletico will win that match. And Milan will also beat Liverpool and become the last qualifiers for the next round.

It's very difficult for AC Milan to beat Liferpol, because Liferpol's performance is now very good, last night Liferpol was able to beat Everton with a score of 4-1, it's most likely that Porto will advance to the round of 16 accompanying Liferpol, because Porto is enough to play in a draw with ATM, to be sure one ticket to the last 16..

[tyz]

The fact is that the team that has not have the ability to win against Benfica. We should not expect such a team to win against Bayern Munich. Yet it is a football match, anything can happen on the field. But if Bayern play with their full strength, and if they really want to win this match, Barcelona will lose.

In fact, it's huge luck that Barca has any chance at all of advancing in the CL. If you look at the last game against Benfica, Seferovic of Benfica had a 100% chance to make it 2-1 for Benfica in the last minute of the game. He missed miserably. If he had made the goal, Benfica would already be as good as further and Barca only in the Euro Leauge.
Bayern is a bit weakened at the moment and they have the league top match against Dortmund on Saturday. I see that as the only chance for Barca.

[diderdrogba]

The Group B is really tense now. Liverpool have won all of their games so far and their position is very comfortable. The real competition is going on between Milan, Atletico Madrid and Porto. These teams all still have a chance to advance. The last games are: Milan v Liverpool, Porto v Atletico Madrid. I'm favoring Milan and Atletico in these games. Liverpool are already safe and they wouldn't make a big effort in this game I guess. Milan would benefit from this chance and defeat them. They made Liverpool big difficulties before too. And Atletico Madrid are powerful enough to defeat Porto. Maybe their previous game ended up with a 0-0 draw but I don't expect a similar thing to happen again.

Its not really about who needs the point most between Liverpool and Milan its a game of who controls the ball best and who makes better use of their chances. Both Milan and Liverpool either of the team would win. I will get two slips for the match then predict a straight win for Athletico Madrid even though it wouldn't be too easy playing against porto

What your prediction between Milan versus Liverpool which one will win if you? I think you prefer choose and predict Milan will win but I disagree because Liverpool want to create perfect on stage group by winning on all match, now Liverpool success win on five match and left one match with Milan, first leg on Anfield Milan success made Liverpool working hard before final score is 3-2 for Liverpool winning, but second leg I think the same Liverpool can defeat AC Milan maybe with three goals.

Yes, Liverpool can still fight for another win as they may want to win all of their group games. But the same Liverpool can prefer rotating their squad not to wear their players out before the EPL game on the same week. Honestly, I would do just like that if I were in Klopp's place. There is no need to make your players very tired for an unimportant game. In this case, Milan's chance to win would rise a lot.

[BOAEDAN]

The Milan - Liverpool and Porto - Atletico Madrid matches are going to carry a big importance next week. Because except Liverpool's guaranteed position, the rest of the teams are still competing for the 2nd place. And they have one last chance. All of them would like to benefit from this chance very well. Porto are the most advantageous team now as they are one point ahead of Milan and Atletico both. In case they defeat Atletico, they are the qualifiers. However, I think Atletico will win that match. And Milan will also beat Liverpool and become the last qualifiers for the next round.

liferpol is now in a very good performance, never lost in the champions league, i am very optimistic that liferpol will be able to beat ac milan, and wipe out all matches in the group, even in all champions league, porto has a great chance to qualify for the round of 16, Porto just need to draw with atm..

[KTChampions]

In fact, I would not say that Atlético is in some particularly bad shape - they play their usual dull football, but it gives a result (in the Spanish Championship they are only 3 points behind Real). In the Champions League, they are less successful, but their competitors also cannot boast of anything. In fact, Atlético only needs one win and Porto does not seem to be an invincible team in this situation, so I think the odds at Atlético are distorted.

Although Atletico Madrid are not a weak team, their performance in the Champions League is poor. They have scored 4 points in 5 matches. I can't call their performance a good performance in such a situation. However, the situation is similar in Porto and AC MIlan in their group. Liverpool have qualified for the next round. Now the team that wins the next match will be able to qualify for the next round.

5 matches is too short a distance to assess the quality of the game (especially if two matches against Liverpool and two matches against Milan) - a couple of accidents with a more or less equal game can throw you far back. Atlético has lost just one time with a margin of more than the minimum and the last match they play against Porto. I think their chances are much higher than the quotes of the bookmakers.

[masulum]

liferpol is now in a very good performance, never lost in the champions league, i am very optimistic that liferpol will be able to beat ac milan, and wipe out all matches in the group, even in all champions league, porto has a great chance to qualify for the round of 16, Porto just need to draw with atm..

I still can't predict the result between Porto and Atletico Madrid, because both have shown good performances in their respective domestic leagues. But if we look at the matches in the domestic league, Porto is more convincing to qualify. however, if they are only chasing a draw, it is not impossible that they will be beaten by Atletico.

For Liverpool vs AC Milan, I hope there will be a surprise from AC Milan to win the match. If Milan wins, and Porto vs ATM only ends in a draw, they will also feel the surprise of Milan.

[hahay]

Not sure Bayern Munich will play second tier players, because after all both are great teams which of course their prestige will remain high and their target is always to win. It doesn't matter what kind of situation and condition each team is in, because the most important thing for them is a positive result which of course they will continue to aim for victory. Although indeed, it won't be a problem if Bayern Munich loses but I'm not sure Bayern Munich will relax the attack and even though Barcelona can play well, I still don't believe Barcelona will get points in this last match.

No more!
We cannot forget the monetary prize that teams receive for each victory. It's not just the fact that you qualify, every victory earns you a lot of money. I don't see the Germans giving that money easily to Barcelona.

Well that's the main thing, so it's highly unlikely that just because Bayern Munich have already qualified would allow him to de-escalate the tension which I'm sure won't happen for Bayern Munich either. Even when Bayern Munich is playing in other domestic tournaments the fact is when Bayern Munich have chances to win by a score of even a dozen, Bayern Munich will absolutely do it. But indeed, sometimes when a team that has already qualified for at least they make a rotation of players but that doesn't mean they will play second-tier players too and also, it depends on the schedule and the opponent they will face next and anyway, Bayern Munich will still play aggressively against Barcelona later I'm sure.

[Congyang]

Even though Liverpool's priority is currently in the EPL because the competition there is still fierce and their position is still not safe when compared to the UCL table, but I don't think Liverpool will want to come to the Giuseppe Meazza which is thousands of miles away hoping to lose.
I think even if they play the second tier and make some of their core players on the bench, but they will at least be able to make a draw and even win is very possible.

The Premier League is the most competitive competition today and all teams from the Premier League are group winners in the champions league. Manchester City managed to come out as winners of group A beating PSG, then Liverpool even won 5 wins in 5 champions league matches and became champions in group B, leaving only Chelsea and Manchester United who had already qualified for the round of 16 to determine the group winners in their last match. - each team.

for MU maybe I would say that they will grab the win and top the points table too in the end. their opponents are young boys. of course they won't let the youngbkys be like in the first game. but for chelsea it is a draw because indeed they are now on the same points with juve and these two teams will definitely be seeded again in this match because their opponents are opponents who will not provide meaningful resistance.

[fullhdpixel]

Group G will have a lot of important games for sure, Villareal and Atalanta will be important too, Barcelona vs Bayern will be "important" but I do not expect Bayern to lose at all they are just way too good. Dortmund vs Besiktas is very important for Dortmund as well but it is very unlikely for them to lose that one neither, however even if they win, and Lisbon loses, the goal difference is huge there so I doubt anything would change.

All in all it will be important for some teams and even one group but it is not going to be "fun" to watch all that much if you ask me, most of the games are obvious results and unless something unexpected happens then it will be boring to watch, and even if unexpected happens it just prolongs it until next stage where these teams will be eliminated.

[Lordhermes]

Barcelona should have finished the job in the game against Benfica in Camp Nou. If they won that, they would have guaranteed qualifying for the next round of the Champions League and would have played comfortable in their last game. But the Benfica game ended up with a draw by 0-0 and Barcelona made their job much difficult. And they are very unlucky that they're going to play against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena in their last game. And they have no choice rather than winning. Because Benfica would be able to defeat D. Kyiv easily I guess. And the Bayern Munich I've known so far still wouldn't be okay to a loss even though they have won all of their five games in the group.

There is no magic,Barcelona cannot qualify,the way they played,they didn't deserve to qualify as well.The Barca I know for aggression,possession,just changed to be a mere team that different clubs are flogging anyhow without them showing up a fight that they are Barcelona.

But I believe now that Xavi has come,things will change,and ofcourse they have been doing well since he became their coach as well.