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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129356 times)
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April 11, 2022, 11:32:09 AM
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After seeing the big match last night in the EPL then I think Atletico really have no hope of being able to score a goal, especially to win and eliminate Manchester City. Atletico need a miracle if they want to qualify because even Liverpool who last night not only defended but they still find it difficult to win the match. We can compare how Atletico's gameplay in the first leg was just defending, they really didn't have a strategy to attack to score goals. Because when Atletico comes out of defense and tries to score a goal, it will only be a blunder because Pep is very strong in attacking strategy.
the meeting that took place in the first leg where Atletico Madrid had to lose at home to Manchester city 1-0, although in the future the second leg will be held at the Vicente Calderon, ATM headquarters.it is certainly not an easy matter for them to beat Fame Guardiola's men after we want to see the first match where Manchester city tried to keep scoring goals but Atletico Madrid defended well so that the match only ended with 1-0, considering that Atletico Madrid lost the first l of course they will play more attacking of course this can be used by Manchester city wing strikers to continue to tear apart Atletico Madrid's defense while they are catching up with the citizens
it is very unlikely that Atletico Madrid can win in the 2nd leg later even though the match will be played at their home.
In terms of quality, Manchester City this season is much better than Atletico, and that can be seen in the last few games.
In the 1st leg, Atletico played very defensively, making it very difficult for Manchester City to score. and after being left behind by Agg, it is very likely that Atletico will play attacking in the 2nd leg later and of course with that it is possible for Manchester City to score a lot of goals.

Manchester City is much stronger than Atletico Madrid. More importantly, Manchester City's strategy is better than Atletico Madrid's. Atletico Madrid is not a stable team. And despite falling behind in the first leg, Atletico Madrid's chances of winning the second leg are slim. Manchester City's defense is very strong. If Manchester City plays with full defensive tactics, it will be difficult for Atletico Madrid players to score goals.

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April 11, 2022, 11:45:52 AM
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In the Real Madrid - Chelsea game, I won't be expecting any surprise. I just expect a similar level of effort by Real Madrid, that's all. It would be fair enough for them to maintain their score advantage in total and even get another win in Santiago Bernabeu maybe. Chelsea have no other choice than fighting with all they have in this game. It is like they have literally nothing to lose now. In the worst case, they would lose once again but they would at least show a decent effort.
anything can happen during the 90 minutes of the game. Real Madrid have stepped one foot into the semi-finals because of the 1-3 capital at Stamford Bridge. playing at the Santiago Bernabeu I'm sure Real Madrid will not play casually, but they will play the game as usual which is trying to win possession.
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April 11, 2022, 11:48:38 AM
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This is not the style of Atlético Madrid. They won't force things as they actually only need one goal to fix the situation. Most likely they will look for their chances as before in a tough defensive game. Maybe they will massively go forward only if at the end of the game there are 10-15 minutes before the end and only if the score does not suit them.
For me it's nothing more than a strategy that Simeone realized Man City very strong at their home ground so playing defensively might be good strategy to minimize big lose from Man City and in fact it is works properly that Atletico lose but only 1-0 and second leg will more comfortable for them because playing as a host and my prediction for next match is Atletico will playing attacking in early minutes to pushing fast goals
I can understand why in the first leg Atletico played very defensive, they have a target to achieve a draw and even if they lose they will not concede
in large numbers. It turned out that Atletico only lost by one goal on aggregate in the first leg match, then for the match in the second leg it is not
effective if Atletico use the same strategy. Because after all Atletico must score goals and win the game by a difference of two goals to qualify for
the semifinals. I predict the second leg will be much more interesting, apart from Atlético will play attacking, then Man City is also unlikely to
play defensively, even though Man City has won on aggregate by one goal. After all, as far as I know, Guardiola doesn't play any defensive strategy
against anyone. My prediction is that it will be too difficult for Atletico to beat Man City, even if Atletico play at home, this does not make Atletico's
chances of winning big. Because Man City is too strong to beat by Atletico.

I think Atletico Madrid was aiming for a draw in that match because they wanted to play better in the second leg and give everything they have in the second leg. I obviously think that there is only one goal deficit for Atletico Madrid and that is not enough for Manchester City to stop them from winning in the second leg.

Because Atletico Madrid obviously has the capability of winning in the second leg. But, Atletico Madrid will surely have to change tactics because the ultra-defensive strategy will only work so much.

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April 11, 2022, 12:01:13 PM
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As for the Bayern Munich - Villarreal match, it can be a really interesting one. Villarreal won by 1-0 in the first leg and their performance was incredible. If they maintain it here as well, then Bayern Munich can be in a big trouble.
I think Bayern were lucky not to have conceded more goals in the first leg of that game, Villareal missed a lot of clear cut chances to make it 2 or 3 goals ahead and that would have made things difficult for Bayern in the second leg. But with just a lone goal, i doubt Villareal would be able to survive Bayerns onslaught for the entire 90 minutes, it would also be impossible to replicate the kind of football they played in the first leg now that they are coming to the home of the German champions. Having said that, in football there is always a chance of an upset though, and no matter how you look at it, Villareal have the advantage for now and they can dare to dream.

As for Real v Chelsea, i expect the second leg to be even more interesting than the first, Chelsea would be throwing everything forward in this game as they have nothing to lose, and this would definitely leave gaps in defense, of which Madrid would be more than willing to capitalize on. This would be a high scoring game i can tell, but Madrid would go through at the end.

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April 11, 2022, 01:11:16 PM
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This is not the style of Atlético Madrid. They won't force things as they actually only need one goal to fix the situation. Most likely they will look for their chances as before in a tough defensive game. Maybe they will massively go forward only if at the end of the game there are 10-15 minutes before the end and only if the score does not suit them.
It could be that Altletico Madrid's game will change, but almost all the big games they participate in, the game that is highlighted is always the same, defending without a single attacking formation, meaning they are trying to secure a draw position and continue the second round at home, but the situation this time is different, they conceded one goal, without equalizing it is certain they will have no chance of qualifying for the next, I predict Atletico Madrid will play defensively and attack all out in the last 10 minutes
To play an attacking game against Manchester City in the second leg for the current Atletico Madrid is akin to suicide, so I don't think Diego Simeone will risk such a move. Therefore, most likely there will be a cautious game with a rapid transition to a counterattack. The gap of 1 goal is negligible and it is because of this that Atletico Madrid will not take unnecessary risks. Still, I think the main thing will be how Manchester City will play and, accordingly, based on this, the Atletico Madrid game will be built. If nothing extraordinary happens, then I'm afraid that the most boring first half awaits us and the main events will unfold in the second half, when the time comes for decisive action and not necessarily in the last 10 minutes, because it may be too late.

But Atletico Madrid can also not just hold back as they did in the first leg because then they will surely lose the match. I think the best tactic for Atletico Madrid is going to first find one goal so that they can make things even and then try to win the match because if they go attacking from the first minute of the match it will be a big problem because Manchester City can be devastating on the counter-attack.

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April 11, 2022, 01:25:30 PM
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As for Real v Chelsea, i expect the second leg to be even more interesting than the first, Chelsea would be throwing everything forward in this game as they have nothing to lose, and this would definitely leave gaps in defense, of which Madrid would be more than willing to capitalize on. This would be a high scoring game i can tell, but Madrid would go through at the end.
Among the Champions League matches, only Mardrid vs Chelsea provides a big chance of course in this case I think Madrid can win with a @2.47 chance this victory is possible after I saw the match in the first leg.

Chelsea will try to reach the points won but with 3-1 on aggregate it is quite tough for Chelsea only Tuchel is able to provide an interesting game so that Chelsea can beat Madrid in yesterday's victory.

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April 11, 2022, 01:27:24 PM
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I think Atletico Madrid was aiming for a draw in that match because they wanted to play better in the second leg and give everything they have in the second leg. I obviously think that there is only one goal deficit for Atletico Madrid and that is not enough for Manchester City to stop them from winning in the second leg.

Because Atletico Madrid obviously has the capability of winning in the second leg. But, Atletico Madrid will surely have to change tactics because the ultra-defensive strategy will only work so much.
Facing an aggressive manchester city and prioritizing possession of the ball of course defending and targeting a draw is logical, but conceding one goal in the 1st leg is likely to make it a bit difficult for Atletico Madrid to catch up with the existing goal deficit despite playing at home in the 2nd leg, I also strongly believe that Guardiaola will apply a different strategy to secure victory when playing in Spain, if he continues to rely on total defense without any opportunity to attack, of course it will be difficult for Atlético to turn the situation later.

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April 11, 2022, 01:29:07 PM
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But Atletico Madrid can also not just hold back as they did in the first leg because then they will surely lose the match. I think the best tactic for Atletico Madrid is going to first find one goal so that they can make things even and then try to win the match because if they go attacking from the first minute of the match it will be a big problem because Manchester City can be devastating on the counter-attack.
we won't know how Atletico will implement their strategy in the 2nd leg. defending will let City take over the game and develop their attack. because we know City also has dangerous strikers.
Playing attacking is also full of risks, I think they have to strengthen their midfield for every attack and also anticipate when there are counterattacks. I think the 2nd leg will be quite tough with some fouls.

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April 11, 2022, 02:12:06 PM
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In the Real Madrid - Chelsea game, I won't be expecting any surprise. I just expect a similar level of effort by Real Madrid, that's all. It would be fair enough for them to maintain their score advantage in total and even get another win in Santiago Bernabeu maybe. Chelsea have no other choice than fighting with all they have in this game. It is like they have literally nothing to lose now. In the worst case, they would lose once again but they would at least show a decent effort.

In this match, it will be very important for Chelsea to score a goal as soon as possible, because then the game becomes completely open.
In their first game Chelsea were very bad in defense and Real simply took what was offered to them in the match.
Chelsea will have to play much better in defense, Lukaku will finally have to wake up and start scoring goals and only in that case Chelsea will have some chance in return.
Real is big favorite, of course.

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April 11, 2022, 02:53:01 PM
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After seeing the big match last night in the EPL then I think Atletico really have no hope of being able to score a goal, especially to win and eliminate Manchester City. Atletico need a miracle if they want to qualify because even Liverpool who last night not only defended but they still find it difficult to win the match. We can compare how Atletico's gameplay in the first leg was just defending, they really didn't have a strategy to attack to score goals. Because when Atletico comes out of defense and tries to score a goal, it will only be a blunder because Pep is very strong in attacking strategy.
It's true to see Manchester City, they are strong in terms of defense and attack. While Atletico Madrid are actually strong to survive, it's just that they have to focus on that point. If they only focus on defending and only rely on counter-attacks, I think it's difficult for Atletico Madrid to do that. Plus Manchester City are also one of the good teams in terms of ball possession.

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April 11, 2022, 02:54:43 PM
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In this match, it will be very important for Chelsea to score a goal as soon as possible, because then the game becomes completely open.
In their first game Chelsea were very bad in defense and Real simply took what was offered to them in the match.
Chelsea will have to play much better in defense, Lukaku will finally have to wake up and start scoring goals and only in that case Chelsea will have some chance in return.
Real is big favorite, of course.

Chelsea's chances are not closed. They still have 90 minutes of normal time to chase down a goal. I don't think Madrid will play defense, they will keep playing normally and trying to score goals. Madrid's mentality is better because they play at the Santiago Bernabeu. Chances are they will keep playing open and keep attacking. So everyone will certainly choose Madrid to qualify for the next round. Regarding Lukaku, he looks downhill after his last case with the club. He looks so heavy running and has poor control. Maybe Tuchel deserves to take it off if he doesn't play well soon.

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April 11, 2022, 02:56:10 PM
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This is not the style of Atlético Madrid. They won't force things as they actually only need one goal to fix the situation. Most likely they will look for their chances as before in a tough defensive game. Maybe they will massively go forward only if at the end of the game there are 10-15 minutes before the end and only if the score does not suit them.
It could be that Altletico Madrid's game will change, but almost all the big games they participate in, the game that is highlighted is always the same, defending without a single attacking formation, meaning they are trying to secure a draw position and continue the second round at home, but the situation this time is different, they conceded one goal, without equalizing it is certain they will have no chance of qualifying for the next, I predict Atletico Madrid will play defensively and attack all out in the last 10 minutes
To play an attacking game against Manchester City in the second leg for the current Atletico Madrid is akin to suicide, so I don't think Diego Simeone will risk such a move. Therefore, most likely there will be a cautious game with a rapid transition to a counterattack. The gap of 1 goal is negligible and it is because of this that Atletico Madrid will not take unnecessary risks. Still, I think the main thing will be how Manchester City will play and, accordingly, based on this, the Atletico Madrid game will be built. If nothing extraordinary happens, then I'm afraid that the most boring first half awaits us and the main events will unfold in the second half, when the time comes for decisive action and not necessarily in the last 10 minutes, because it may be too late.
Atletico Madrid must make at least one goal in the first half, in order to have a greater chance in the second half, the total defensive pattern does not guarantee that they will be able to score one goal, defending totally with conditions like the first leg does not result in a win, meaning Atletico Madrid must speculate , defend and have to attack at certain times, because Manchester City are able to score in the form of opponents who are totally defensive, if Atletico Madrid is not able to make changes, it is likely that Manchester City will score early in the second leg, and this will prevent Atletico Madrid from progressing to next

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April 11, 2022, 03:13:08 PM
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anything can happen during the 90 minutes of the game. Real Madrid have stepped one foot into the semi-finals because of the 1-3 capital at Stamford Bridge. playing at the Santiago Bernabeu I'm sure Real Madrid will not play casually, but they will play the game as usual which is trying to win possession.
When the initial capital is already obtained by Real Madrid at Chelsea's cage, then when playing at home, Real Madrid will definitely have a greater spirit and are optimistic to win again even though they don't need to score many more goals to qualify for the semifinals.
So what really looks difficult is Chelsea who have to fight really hard to make sure they qualify and Real Madrid are eliminated, but I don't think Chelsea can do that.

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April 11, 2022, 03:15:35 PM
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Athletico Madrid will be knocked out.
Expect nothing but winning from man city or draw.
They couldn't afford to even win Mallorca, hmmm!

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April 11, 2022, 03:19:18 PM
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I think Atletico Madrid was aiming for a draw in that match because they wanted to play better in the second leg and give everything they have in the second leg. I obviously think that there is only one goal deficit for Atletico Madrid and that is not enough for Manchester City to stop them from winning in the second leg.

Because Atletico Madrid obviously has the capability of winning in the second leg. But, Atletico Madrid will surely have to change tactics because the ultra-defensive strategy will only work so much.
It doesn't matter because home-away goal advantage don't count anymore. I think Atletico Madrid were playing very compact and frustrating their opponents, and when the opponent is not strong mentally for the duration of 90 minutes they tend to capitalize on one mistake to score. Manchester City were ready for them, they expected everything Simeone and his men brought to the game hence it looked like Atletico weren't ready to attempting making any counter attack. I am sure they will still play same way in the second leg too  at least for the first few minutes to see how strong City is for them.
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April 11, 2022, 03:24:12 PM
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After seeing the big match last night in the EPL then I think Atletico really have no hope of being able to score a goal, especially to win and eliminate Manchester City. Atletico need a miracle if they want to qualify because even Liverpool who last night not only defended but they still find it difficult to win the match. We can compare how Atletico's gameplay in the first leg was just defending, they really didn't have a strategy to attack to score goals. Because when Atletico comes out of defense and tries to score a goal, it will only be a blunder because Pep is very strong in attacking strategy.
Atletico Madrid vs Man City will be held at the Wanda Metropolitano, Atletico's headquarters. Both teams still have the same chance to qualify for the semifinals, although Man City is slightly underdog. Because Pep Guardiola's squad won 1-0 in the first leg. Even though Atletico Madrid's domestic match did not get good results, I don't think it will have much effect on the UCL match. I'm sure Atletico Madrid in the second leg will play attacking to make quick goals.
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April 11, 2022, 03:25:16 PM
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Expect further damage's from team like Real Madrid and Manchester City.
I don't know what Bayern Munich will do but I'm sure seeing them both winning Villarreal at home.
Chelsea also will be history in the nenst game.

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April 11, 2022, 04:09:41 PM
 #17118

the odds are very close, so in reality nothing is safe
even if I wanted to, I would not know who to aim for the victory
they are both very strong and motivated

Real Madrid win -> 2.4
Chelsea win -> 2.9

nothing, draw for me

These odds have nothing to do with reality, since only the odds of overall success (taking into account the first game) are important now, at the moment they are:

Real Madrid 1.08

Chelsea 7.40

A little different look, right? I would not guess the result of the return match, everything is really random here. maybe it makes sense to bet on BTTS.

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April 11, 2022, 04:20:03 PM
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the odds are very close, so in reality nothing is safe
even if I wanted to, I would not know who to aim for the victory
they are both very strong and motivated

Real Madrid win -> 2.4
Chelsea win -> 2.9

nothing, draw for me
These odds have nothing to do with reality, since only the odds of overall success (taking into account the first game) are important now, at the moment they are:

Real Madrid 1.08
Chelsea 7.40

A little different look, right? I would not guess the result of the return match, everything is really random here. maybe it makes sense to bet on BTTS.

Which team wins this match is not important. What matters is which team qualifies for the semi-finals. We know exactly how hard it is to score against Real Madrid, when Real Madrid plays defensively. So my guess is that even if Chelsea is able to win this match, they will still win by 1 goal margin. My guess is the result of the match could be 1-0. Real Madrid will not take any risk in this match. Even if it is their home match, they will play fully defensively to secure the semi-final.

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April 11, 2022, 04:50:37 PM
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Bayern Munich vs Villareal seems to be an arena for revenge because Bayern did not perform optimally yesterday. This game will be in Bayern's favor if they don't squander the opportunity. 1 point behind should be easier when playing at home. On the other hand, Villareal as the scapegoat was able to surprise again and make it difficult for Bayern Munich to get bigger points. We'll see that Bayern Munich's formation will be installed perfectly and all the core players will be deployed this time.

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