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October 21, 2022, 05:08:12 AM
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Meanwhile Ind A vs Associate nations at the same time.
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This is a good suggestion, but unfortunately the BCCI doesn't want the second string players to visit foreign nations. A few weeks ago, the West Bengal cricket team got an invitation from the Namibian cricket board to visit that country. But at the last minute their participation was cancelled due to BCCI refusing to approve the tour. The importance of U-23 and A team tours have gone down in India. And it was a big loss for the younger players, especially the ones who are not suitable for the T20 format.

It feels to me that the India cricket board does not give enough importance to players in the pipeline at all. That, I think, is a very big issue for all the countries in the subcontinent. One of the reasons why India does not feel too much of the effects of the economic downturn is because they have a very large population. As a matter of fact, it is very easy to get talented players on the team even if they don't care about the second team players. It is always going to be the players who are genuinely talented who will come forward to lead the team. Especially in T20 because IPL is a suitable platform for that.

Those who wish to step up through 50 overs cricket or test cricket, on the other hand, may find it very challenging to do so. Because all the spotlight almost always gets taken by the IPL. The other players have a really hard time making a name for themselves in the game.
I do not want to favor anyone neither India nor Pakistan. Safety ্get the first priority. Because there is no need to play when life is about to threat.  Pakistan has been trying for a long time despite various adverse conditions to bring cricket back to a normal position in their country. They have hosted cricket venues in other countries for a long time. So if they are influenced politically without considering their situation then it will never bring anything good for cricket. Cricket is already far behind. I think India should be played there when maximum security is available.

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October 21, 2022, 06:15:28 AM
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There is no doubt BCCI is currently world's most rich and powerful cricketing board but sadly due to political influence they have never been ideal sports authority for young emerging talent because they never want to spend money on these projects which is surely a matter of concern for them and pipeline players those need good intention and better facilities few weeks back I was reading here few Indians were feeling India could be like the USA in basketball, but they are forgetting how they are spending money and have better facilities and sources for their new generation players but here most of the time we have personal ego's and political influence which is more important than the game and it's better future.
Even they can do much better and surely can start their future plan for results like the USA has in basketball but here we need professional peoples and sports lovers here all going against these things, so I have feeling IPL can give them billions of USD, but results not like the USA.
I do not want to favor anyone neither India nor Pakistan. Safety ্get the first priority. Because there is no need to play when life is about to threat.  Pakistan has been trying for a long time despite various adverse conditions to bring cricket back to a normal position in their country. They have hosted cricket venues in other countries for a long time. So if they are influenced politically without considering their situation then it will never bring anything good for cricket. Cricket is already far behind. I think India should be played there when maximum security is available.

dezoel, Now BCCI has become the National cricket team board. Not the Indian cricket board. They are just worrying about money and they absolutely do not care about the young players and emerging players. They only care about the main 11. There is a huge amount of money flowing through Indian cricket but the authorities are not using that money to the highest effect.

GigaBit, Pakistan should be given a chance because they have been trying to host a tournament for a very long time. And I obviously feel that Pakistan is committed to providing the most comprehensive security that they can. And if they ensure maximum security I don't think there is any problem.

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October 21, 2022, 12:50:32 PM
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I do not want to favor anyone neither India nor Pakistan. Safety ্get the first priority. Because there is no need to play when life is about to threat.  Pakistan has been trying for a long time despite various adverse conditions to bring cricket back to a normal position in their country. They have hosted cricket venues in other countries for a long time. So if they are influenced politically without considering their situation then it will never bring anything good for cricket. Cricket is already far behind. I think India should be played there when maximum security is available.
Again and again crying about safety surely now sounds awkward , and please keep one thing in mind now it's not all about safety but it's all about politics and ego as few months back India was going to hold Asia Cup but due to Corona situation in India they shifted to this in the UAE here things are going against Pakistan because India now also looking for neutral venue for this tournament, and it's not all about safety or any other risk.
 
Here I am feeling if these two countries are not happy with each other than surely they need forfeit this event or must one country could be out of this event surely this could be better for the game of cricket because doing tricks like these never been ideal for the spirit of the game, and we have no hope about any positive development between these two countries just enjoy game in ICC events with mostly playing at neutral venues are favourable for these both countries and fans.

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October 21, 2022, 02:35:05 PM
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West Bengal tour was cancelled due to presence of Lahore Qalanders as BCCI not want to have any link or tournament where Pakistan or their domestic teams are playing but here now as they are rich and have enough sources they can do good things for Associate countries which will be surely helpful for them and associate countries like @JSRAW saying bringing tri-series with India A and associate countries which is not bad idea which will give them good chance of having four-day matches as well.

But, here I am feeling BCCI is not interested in any development they are just looking for more money and personal interests which are surely not going to be filled with these things and their stance about not allowing U23 and A teams tour of other countries are ales wired because this was doing good around two decades back and now again can bring better results for them and youths.

OK.. I was unaware of the Qalandars factor. But still it was disappointing. BCCI need to do their part in helping the associate nations. But what can I expect, when they haven't even sent a single tour to the neighboring Nepal in the last two decades? Since the BCCI is not very keen on U-23 and A team tours, I hope that the ACC will organize separate tournaments for these teams. They can include the associate nations as well. Will be good to see the Indian U-23 team playing against associate sides such as Nepal, Malaysia and Iran.

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October 21, 2022, 06:03:03 PM
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OK.. I was unaware of the Qalandars factor. But still it was disappointing. BCCI need to do their part in helping the associate nations. But what can I expect, when they haven't even sent a single tour to the neighboring Nepal in the last two decades? Since the BCCI is not very keen on U-23 and A team tours, I hope that the ACC will organize separate tournaments for these teams. They can include the associate nations as well. Will be good to see the Indian U-23 team playing against associate sides such as Nepal, Malaysia and Iran.
Here I have feeling being a big BCCI has more responsibility but here we have to check other boards are also doing something for this all or no, but we have nothing positive from them and ICC is also the most guilty party in this all affair as usual because they are also never been interested in having any good thing like associate countries bilateral competitions or tri-series with four day matches which are also good for having better awareness about the game in them all system is completely down and out just deep pockets are looking for money and more power which is surely never been helpful because one day you have to leave this office and power for others and if you are not doing good then surely you have never been in good list.

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October 22, 2022, 01:13:33 PM
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OK.. I was unaware of the Qalandars factor. But still it was disappointing. BCCI need to do their part in helping the associate nations. But what can I expect, when they haven't even sent a single tour to the neighboring Nepal in the last two decades? Since the BCCI is not very keen on U-23 and A team tours, I hope that the ACC will organize separate tournaments for these teams. They can include the associate nations as well. Will be good to see the Indian U-23 team playing against associate sides such as Nepal, Malaysia and Iran.

Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.

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October 22, 2022, 10:23:00 PM
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West Bengal tour was cancelled due to presence of Lahore Qalanders as BCCI not want to have any link or tournament where Pakistan or their domestic teams are playing but here now as they are rich and have enough sources they can do good things for Associate countries which will be surely helpful for them and associate countries like @JSRAW saying bringing tri-series with India A and associate countries which is not bad idea which will give them good chance of having four-day matches as well.
But, here I am feeling BCCI is not interested in any development they are just looking for more money and personal interests which are surely not going to be filled with these things and their stance about not allowing U23 and A teams tour of other countries are ales wired because this was doing good around two decades back and now again can bring better results for them and youths.
OK.. I was unaware of the Qalandars factor. But still it was disappointing. BCCI need to do their part in helping the associate nations. But what can I expect, when they haven't even sent a single tour to the neighboring Nepal in the last two decades? Since the BCCI is not very keen on U-23 and A team tours, I hope that the ACC will organize separate tournaments for these teams. They can include the associate nations as well. Will be good to see the Indian U-23 team playing against associate sides such as Nepal, Malaysia and Iran.

The thing is that cricket has become a money-hogging machine for a lot of administrative people. They are hardly concerned about the growth of cricket, rather they are only thinking about how to make more money. With the amount of money BBCI has now, they can really help the associate nations grow bigger and help cricket in general, but they are reluctant to do so. I also don't see major steps taken to improve the U23 teams and so on.
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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.
ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.

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October 23, 2022, 04:53:18 AM
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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.

The case of UAE and Oman is different. Since they are wealthy countries which can help icc in many ways. The whole world is seeing the drama taking place in form of UAE cricket team. Teams like Nepal who are made entirely of native players are deprived of main events because of such drama.

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October 23, 2022, 11:23:09 AM
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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.
ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
Apart from India and Pakistan performance there is a weather forecast department which is also at the risk - some decisions are made with time.lets see what happens today - no sign of rain so far. The Match is taking the crucial end.

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October 23, 2022, 11:34:13 AM
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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.
ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
80 percent chances are in favour of Pakistan - India is now needing 36 run and over 14 balls.
The match is at the crucial stage now - the pressure is building.

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October 23, 2022, 11:45:28 AM
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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.
ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
DK in the field - 4 balls 15 to win - anything is possible
Very tough time for both the team - 13 for 3 balls.

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October 23, 2022, 08:51:22 PM
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ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
I already mention many times here ICC is the colonial mindset, and they are never been a good place where we can expect good and positive development for the sack of this game cricket because this is mostly run by businessmen or peoples are not related to cricket its most had peoples those are had posts on political based.

So, they can't understand things which are important for the development of this game with now they need to focus on shortest format and bring more countries in frame they are still involved in politics and personal ego's here Indian role is most controversial and better word is the worst because they are now having their deep pockets filled through IPL, so they are just looking for their own interest which is backed by Australia and England because they are also having good profit from them for their current position.

Encouraging countries like Oman, UAE and Kuwait has never been ideal because they are not bringing native players and which are coming with their native players they are facing lack of funds and better help from ICC, so this all is going into wrong way specially now as we are losing test playing countries like West Indies, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh which are currently at their lower point and two new countries are also had no good future with this test format.

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October 23, 2022, 11:27:29 PM
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ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
I already mention many times here ICC is the colonial mindset, and they are never been a good place where we can expect good and positive development for the sack of this game cricket because this is mostly run by businessmen or peoples are not related to cricket its most had peoples those are had posts on political based.

So, they can't understand things which are important for the development of this game with now they need to focus on shortest format and bring more countries in frame they are still involved in politics and personal ego's here Indian role is most controversial and better word is the worst because they are now having their deep pockets filled through IPL, so they are just looking for their own interest which is backed by Australia and England because they are also having good profit from them for their current position.

Encouraging countries like Oman, UAE and Kuwait has never been ideal because they are not bringing native players and which are coming with their native players they are facing lack of funds and better help from ICC, so this all is going into wrong way specially now as we are losing test playing countries like West Indies, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh which are currently at their lower point and two new countries are also had no good future with this test format.
Read it in the forum that yesterday match between Pakistan and India has been watched by 11 million people online.
That is the biggest event - bigger than World Cup final

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October 24, 2022, 12:04:49 AM
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Nepal is in region where counties are crazy for cricket like Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but I always think why Nepal team hasn't made it to any ICC event till date. BCCI must have helped Nepal to improve there cricket but so far very little has been done by icc in bringing Nepal to mainstream cricket.

ICC is now solely focusing on countries such as UAE and Oman, who doesn't have any citizens in their national team. Even in the ongoing T20 World Cup, the UAE team was fully consisted of Indian and Pakistani citizens. Players were talking to each other in Malayalam while playing. How this team is going to attract any interest among the Arabs of UAE? On the other hand, teams such as Nepal, Kenya and PNG have faced discrimination from the ICC. Their funding has been reduced to almost zero and as a result their performance has also gone down.
ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
The cricket is now more of commercial stuff then to the promotion of the sports.
UAE and Oman are already rich countries they can create their teams - but they need to have thier nationals for the team

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October 25, 2022, 02:12:35 AM
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Read it in the forum that yesterday match between Pakistan and India has been watched by 11 million people online.
That is the biggest event - bigger than World Cup final

During the last over, Hotstar live stream was being simultaneously watched by 15 million users. And at no point, it dipped below the 9 million mark. These are encouraging signs for Disney-Star, who spent more than 3 billion USD to get the ICC media rights for 2024-27 cycle. A lot of people were of the opinion that Star overestimated the bid. But the Indo-Pak match once again proves the potential of sports live streaming in India. Given the rapid growth in users who watch through streaming, Star will he hoping that by 2025 or 2026, the user base may reach 30-40 million.

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October 25, 2022, 05:12:02 PM
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ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
The cricket is now more of commercial stuff then to the promotion of the sports.
UAE and Oman are already rich countries they can create their teams - but they need to have thier nationals for the team
No doubt every thing is now commercialized because in last two decades life is very fast and every second counts, so surely this commercialism is going to be grown, and we will have good and bad both tastes of this as you mention ICC I also want they do some good things for this game.

We have better entertainment which is necessity of the time as well but here we have these both teams are playing without any native player which is never been good with this many complications can happen like few teams like Nepal and Zimbabwe are suffering here ICC needs to have any solid rule about this like four or five native players must in side surely will give better result for all countries, and now it's time for having more countries added into shorter format which is now also good development.
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October 26, 2022, 07:28:41 AM
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Read it in the forum that yesterday match between Pakistan and India has been watched by 11 million people online.
That is the biggest event - bigger than World Cup final

During the last over, Hotstar live stream was being simultaneously watched by 15 million users. And at no point, it dipped below the 9 million mark. These are encouraging signs for Disney-Star, who spent more than 3 billion USD to get the ICC media rights for 2024-27 cycle. A lot of people were of the opinion that Star overestimated the bid. But the Indo-Pak match once again proves the potential of sports live streaming in India. Given the rapid growth in users who watch through streaming, Star will he hoping that by 2025 or 2026, the user base may reach 30-40 million.

@Sithara007 these are in fact positive signs for Disney, and since India often play’s against top team’s more I’m sure that they’ll be able to recover their money in the long run as those matches will get them lots of views. 

ICC is being biased in some places and opposition in others. But he has to come back from these two types of behavior. It is the ICC's responsibility to see other countries the way the United Arab Emirates or Oman should be seen. It can be said that if any organization who takes the responsibility of care again behaves biased, then I think this organization is a big barrier for the expansion of cricket.
The cricket is now more of commercial stuff then to the promotion of the sports.
UAE and Oman are already rich countries they can create their teams - but they need to have thier nationals for the team
No doubt every thing is now commercialized because in last two decades life is very fast and every second counts, so surely this commercialism is going to be grown, and we will have good and bad both tastes of this as you mention ICC I also want they do some good things for this game.

We have better entertainment which is necessity of the time as well but here we have these both teams are playing without any native player which is never been good with this many complications can happen like few teams like Nepal and Zimbabwe are suffering here ICC needs to have any solid rule about this like four or five native players must in side surely will give better result for all countries, and now it's time for having more countries added into shorter format which is now also good development.

@jostorres I do not feel that this rule of native player’s should be made mandatory, because many under performing player’s will then be slotted in and it’ll not be good for the team or the fan's who watch the match.
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October 26, 2022, 07:41:38 AM
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Read it in the forum that yesterday match between Pakistan and India has been watched by 11 million people online.
That is the biggest event - bigger than World Cup final
During the last over, Hotstar live stream was being simultaneously watched by 15 million users. And at no point, it dipped below the 9 million mark. These are encouraging signs for Disney-Star, who spent more than 3 billion USD to get the ICC media rights for 2024-27 cycle. A lot of people were of the opinion that Star overestimated the bid. But the Indo-Pak match once again proves the potential of sports live streaming in India. Given the rapid growth in users who watch through streaming, Star will he hoping that by 2025 or 2026, the user base may reach 30-40 million.

One reason why Pakistan vs India has become so popular is that we don't have any other matches between these two teams except for the ICC tournaments.

So, this is a match which is always very anticipated. At the same time, I think this shows the potential of Pakistan versus India matches. These matches can bring a huge amount of viewership but because of the problem between both the teams, Pakistan versus India is not going on except for the ICC tournaments.

I am quite sure that the media also want Pakistan versus India to be broadcasted because that has really been a view gainer for them. And I am also quite sure that the viewership is going to reach around what they are expecting.

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