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December 02, 2020, 05:27:14 PM
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India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.
India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

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December 02, 2020, 06:10:39 PM
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India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.
India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.
There are two theories surrounding this match.

Theory-1:
The bowlers bowl performed in the same manner as they did in the previous two matches. Well, it is just that the Australian batsmen did not bat to their full potential bacause they knew that the series have been won.

Theory-2:
India should have batted first in the previous matches then, they would have won both of them and would have eventually won the series. Unfortunately our captain Kohli was not in a mood of winning the toss.

I do believe in the first theory as I think the bowlers did not perform as anticipated, our expectation from bhumra and shami were too high if we consider their past performance.



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December 02, 2020, 06:32:32 PM
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Did not expect India to win the last one by a decent margin. Very unexpected. They could have probably won by an even bigger margin if Finch wasn't dropped early behind the stumps.

It seems like the Indian middle order issue has been sorted out completely thanks to Pandya, Jadeja etc which is a good thing though the top order seems to be the issue now.

Australia badly missed Warner while India badly missed Rohit. Great to see Natarajan and Shardul performing well.

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December 02, 2020, 08:29:39 PM
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India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.
India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

If you analysis the match, Australia played bad game in the last 5 overs of the indian innings and also in the last five overs of their innings. They gave away too many runs in the last 5 overs to Indians. Also when they could have easily chased the target, they lost too many wickets in the last 5 overs. It was game of nerves and India team stood out in this match.
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December 02, 2020, 09:56:16 PM
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India won the match by 13 runs. The credit should go to Pandya and Jadeja. They scored a lot of runs during the final overs, to get India to 300 plus. When the 5th wicket fell, no one would have imagined that India would end up with a total of more than 250-260. Also, credit goes to Natarajan, for picking up two important wickets in his debut for the national team.
India could not have collected so much without the contribution of Pandya and Jadeja. After 30 overs, India lost 5 wickets, then the team went under pressure. They collected 302 runs in Jadeja and Pandya's formidable batting. The bowlers also did very well. India could not have won without their good performance.

If you analysis the match, Australia played bad game in the last 5 overs of the indian innings and also in the last five overs of their innings. They gave away too many runs in the last 5 overs to Indians. Also when they could have easily chased the target, they lost too many wickets in the last 5 overs. It was game of nerves and India team stood out in this match.

We see this happen many times after a team has already won the series. Australia was not at their best in this match but credit goes to India as they were able to keep the momentum through out the match where Australia lost wickets and bowl poorly under pressure.

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December 02, 2020, 10:08:04 PM
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Australia badly missed Warner while India badly missed Rohit. Great to see Natarajan and Shardul performing well.
On flat pitches both batsmen are dangerous and Rohit is miles ahead of everyone when batting on flat pitch as he has a habit of gets going and 3 double 100s confirms that so its obvious that India missed him badly at the top order. I really hope that he comes back and he should take his fitness more seriously and eat less vada pav.  Tongue

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December 03, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
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On flat pitches both batsmen are dangerous and Rohit is miles ahead of everyone when batting on flat pitch as he has a habit of gets going and 3 double 100s confirms that so its obvious that India missed him badly at the top order. I really hope that he comes back and he should take his fitness more seriously and eat less vada pav.  Tongue

That is applicable for the other players as well. Rohit is not the only player who gained lots of weight during the pandemic period. Even youngsters such as Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant seems to have gained at least 5-10 kg during this period. Rohit is in his 30s and therefore his "gains" are more visible. On the other hand, look at the Australian players. All of them look 100% fit.

The difference may be due to the fact that CA is conducting domestic cricket this year, while the BCCI doesn't have a plan for the same. Especially for those Indian players who are not a part of the IPL, staying fit is quite challenging due to the lack of opportunities in domestic cricket.
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December 03, 2020, 12:58:05 PM
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On flat pitches both batsmen are dangerous and Rohit is miles ahead of everyone when batting on flat pitch as he has a habit of gets going and 3 double 100s confirms that so its obvious that India missed him badly at the top order. I really hope that he comes back and he should take his fitness more seriously and eat less vada pav.  Tongue

That is applicable for the other players as well. Rohit is not the only player who gained lots of weight during the pandemic period. Even youngsters such as Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant seems to have gained at least 5-10 kg during this period. Rohit is in his 30s and therefore his "gains" are more visible. On the other hand, look at the Australian players. All of them look 100% fit.

The difference may be due to the fact that CA is conducting domestic cricket this year, while the BCCI doesn't have a plan for the same. Especially for those Indian players who are not a part of the IPL, staying fit is quite challenging due to the lack of opportunities in domestic cricket.
Reducing weight for an athlete is not going to be a tough task and Rohit done well in IPL as well so we can see him back in action real soon, injuries are more concerned compared to weight gains by players so BCCI wants to keep the prime players as 100% fit for the important tournament and series.
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December 03, 2020, 01:09:11 PM
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Reducing weight for an athlete is not going to be a tough task and Rohit done well in IPL as well so we can see him back in action real soon, injuries are more concerned compared to weight gains by players so BCCI wants to keep the prime players as 100% fit for the important tournament and series.

Injuries were expected after such a tight IPL schedule. Most of the players were playing more than a dozen matches each. Although we can claim that T20 is a less demanding format, playing so many matches in a row might have exhausted most of them. And these players didn't had any match practice for almost 6 months and they were suddenly thrown in to the glitz of IPL.
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December 03, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
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Reducing weight for an athlete is not going to be a tough task and Rohit done well in IPL as well so we can see him back in action real soon, injuries are more concerned compared to weight gains by players so BCCI wants to keep the prime players as 100% fit for the important tournament and series.
JSRAW likes to tease Rohit as the Vada Pav man which is why he isn't seriously criticizing Rohit or anything. However, it would be beneficial for Rohit to drop a few pounds since other popular players in the team like Kohli, Pandya etc are way thinner in comparison.

Injuries were expected after such a tight IPL schedule. Most of the players were playing more than a dozen matches each. Although we can claim that T20 is a less demanding format, playing so many matches in a row might have exhausted most of them. And these players didn't had any match practice for almost 6 months and they were suddenly thrown in to the glitz of IPL.
True. Biggest point you forgot to mention is the risk of getting infected by Corona which is way more serious than most physical injuries. However, very few got affected luckily and recovered quickly too.

Bio-bubble in UAE was 100% effective thankfully and we got to enjoy a ton of entertaining matches in the midst of this pandemic.

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December 04, 2020, 03:34:32 AM
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JSRAW likes to tease Rohit as the Vada Pav man which is why he isn't seriously criticizing Rohit or anything. However, it would be beneficial for Rohit to drop a few pounds since other popular players in the team like Kohli, Pandya etc are way thinner in comparison.

As long as Rohit is performing, no one is going to complain about his weight gain. BTW, you can't compare Virat with other players because he is such a fitness freak. And Hardik is much younger than Rohit and he doesn't have to worry much about gaining weight (also being a pace bowler helps). BTW, rather than blaming the players, the finger should be pointed at the BCCI. Before the IPL, they failed to organize any cricket tournament (domestic/international) for more than 6 months. The players became rusty, and it was not surprising.
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December 04, 2020, 03:48:24 AM
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JSRAW likes to tease Rohit as the Vada Pav man which is why he isn't seriously criticizing Rohit or anything. However, it would be beneficial for Rohit to drop a few pounds since other popular players in the team like Kohli, Pandya etc are way thinner in comparison.

As long as Rohit is performing, no one is going to complain about his weight gain. BTW, you can't compare Virat with other players because he is such a fitness freak. And Hardik is much younger than Rohit and he doesn't have to worry much about gaining weight (also being a pace bowler helps). BTW, rather than blaming the players, the finger should be pointed at the BCCI. Before the IPL, they failed to organize any cricket tournament (domestic/international) for more than 6 months. The players became rusty, and it was not surprising.

As long as Rohit is performing, no one is criticizing him. There is nothing wrong in giving him the name of pada pav as he looks like one frankly  Grin.

There is also no need to blame BCCI because BCCI was not responsible for the pandemic situation in India. The players are still fit and some of them are in form, which is good for the upcoming T20.

Every player is responsible for his own fitness if they want to be part of the national team. No one is forcing them to be a fitness freak it is their own choice. Being a fitness freak and not able to perform can still make you sit on the bench or out of the team.

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December 04, 2020, 04:37:58 AM
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Bio-bubble in UAE was 100% effective thankfully and we got to enjoy a ton of entertaining matches in the midst of this pandemic.

It was never easy to manage so many players and supporting staff. But to their credit, the BCCI managed it extremely well. Not a single player tested positive for COVID 19. On the other hand, the Pakistan team is touring New Zealand currently, and several positive cases came up in their camp. The New Zealand government even warned the Pakistanis that they would be deported if the quarantine norms are not strictly followed.
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December 04, 2020, 08:17:19 AM
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BTW, rather than blaming the players, the finger should be pointed at the BCCI. Before the IPL, they failed to organize any cricket tournament (domestic/international) for more than 6 months. The players became rusty, and it was not surprising.
What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

On the other hand, the Pakistan team is touring New Zealand currently, and several positive cases came up in their camp. The New Zealand government even warned the Pakistanis that they would be deported if the quarantine norms are not strictly followed.
I didn't know this. Damn. They should have done a better job though I am not completely sure who should be blamed here. I hope they figure out a solution soon.

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December 05, 2020, 05:00:00 AM
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What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.

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December 05, 2020, 07:32:48 AM
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What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.
BCCi is not hosting domestic matches because they will not be able to get more revenue from it. They organized IPL because they were able to earn a huge amount of revenue from IPL. BCCI is greedy for money, they will do nothing but profit themselves.

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What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.
BCCi is not hosting domestic matches because they will not be able to get more revenue from it. They organized IPL because they were able to earn a huge amount of revenue from IPL. BCCI is greedy for money, they will do nothing but profit themselves.

This covid-19 may also effect further series. Pak VS NZ series also looks to be cancelled or delayed because there are wondering How did so many Pakistan players test Covid-positive?

Also Pakistan not granted exemption for group training during isolation
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What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.
BCCi is not hosting domestic matches because they will not be able to get more revenue from it. They organized IPL because they were able to earn a huge amount of revenue from IPL. BCCI is greedy for money, they will do nothing but profit themselves.
Dear don't be rude because BCCI mean business and more profit right now its hotest cricket board with big market and chicken with Golden eggs so they are right  to cashout this all if they are not able to host domestic matches its not big concern hopefully next year this could be better but they have good profit from last IPL edition which is very good for them and very important because you can check all other sports authorties and board are facing some serious troubles due to corona but they are in solid situation.
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What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.
If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.
BCCi is not hosting domestic matches because they will not be able to get more revenue from it. They organized IPL because they were able to earn a huge amount of revenue from IPL. BCCI is greedy for money, they will do nothing but profit themselves.
Dear don't be rude because BCCI mean business and more profit right now its hotest cricket board with big market and chicken with Golden eggs so they are right  to cashout this all if they are not able to host domestic matches its not big concern hopefully next year this could be better but they have good profit from last IPL edition which is very good for them and very important because you can check all other sports authorties and board are facing some serious troubles due to corona but they are in solid situation.
They are in a strong position during the corona period because they have been able to organize IPL. A large part of BCCI's annual income is expected from IPL. If they could not organize the IPL, they would be in a bad condition like other cricket boards. No one is complaining that they will make a lot of money from the IPL. But it would have been a better decision if they had hosted domestic games at the same time. And BCCI would find more talented players.

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What the heck are you talking about? How do you expect the BCCI to organize tournaments effectively when the world is struggling thanks to the pandemic? Very silly statement to be honest. The players had plenty of time to focus on their fitness thanks to Corona.

If they could organize an 8-team IPL tournament in UAE (which has one of the highest infection rates for COVID 19 in the world), then what prevented from organizing a few domestic matches in India? Almost every other cricket playing nation has restarted the domestic tournaments and India is probably the only one which hasn't done that yet. Obviously domestic cricket is a very low priority in India.
BCCi is not hosting domestic matches because they will not be able to get more revenue from it. They organized IPL because they were able to earn a huge amount of revenue from IPL. BCCI is greedy for money, they will do nothing but profit themselves.
Dear don't be rude because BCCI mean business and more profit right now its hotest cricket board with big market and chicken with Golden eggs so they are right  to cashout this all if they are not able to host domestic matches its not big concern hopefully next year this could be better but they have good profit from last IPL edition which is very good for them and very important because you can check all other sports authorties and board are facing some serious troubles due to corona but they are in solid situation.
They are in a strong position during the corona period because they have been able to organize IPL. A large part of BCCI's annual income is expected from IPL. If they could not organize the IPL, they would be in a bad condition like other cricket boards. No one is complaining that they will make a lot of money from the IPL. But it would have been a better decision if they had hosted domestic games at the same time. And BCCI would find more talented players.

Do you understand that the world is not completely free from covid-19 yet. BCCI and any other board should not resume all the matches including the domestics ones. Resuming domestic games at this time will mean that all the players have to take covid-19 tests and there will be risk of getting infected. So why not keep domestic series on halt until the situation is back to normal.
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