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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 10, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.
If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

Some would think that they are rigging the series as its finest, lol. The series will goes to game 7 and that would attract a lot of viewers since both teams has a big fan base. Magnolia already lead 3-1 and they will likely advance in the Finals, so I like the TNT to win so it will be a battle of Pangilinan vs Cojuangco and it's a real battle IMO.

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October 10, 2021, 11:10:37 AM
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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.
If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

Some would think that they are rigging the series as its finest, lol. The series will goes to game 7 and that would attract a lot of viewers since both teams has a big fan base. Magnolia already lead 3-1 and they will likely advance in the Finals, so I like the TNT to win so it will be a battle of Pangilinan vs Cojuangco and it's a real battle IMO.

If they think that way, then that's only on them as PBA has never been proven to be rigging their games. It is what it is, if you are a bettor, you'll never complain as you just bet on the right side and win. The next game is gonna be close (hope so) because they have already known each other and they will play with the right defense since the winner in game 5 will only be 1 win away to win the series.

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October 10, 2021, 11:34:53 AM
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Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

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October 10, 2021, 12:03:30 PM
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Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

It was a lucky day for me, not a big win but winning a parlay is good as it does not come everyday. I'm looking forward to another win of SMB and I think they will break the trend in game 5 and they will beat the TNT to have a lead in the best of 7 series. I am sure that Magnolia will win and they win it easily although Meralco was able to close the gap in the 4th quarter it was not enough to complete a comeback.

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October 10, 2021, 12:37:51 PM
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Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

It was a lucky day for me, not a big win but winning a parlay is good as it does not come everyday. I'm looking forward to another win of SMB and I think they will break the trend in game 5 and they will beat the TNT to have a lead in the best of 7 series. I am sure that Magnolia will win and they win it easily although Meralco was able to close the gap in the 4th quarter it was not enough to complete a comeback.

The semi-finals series of SMB vs TNT is hard to predict now, after game 3, we thought that SMB would lose but we were surprised in game 4, they look like an old SMB and coach Leo Austria really made it a good adjustment making Tautua focus on the offense more. So what's gonna be the pick in game 5? Can anyone share their picks so I would be more confident to follow,  Grin



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October 10, 2021, 03:02:09 PM
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The semi-finals series of SMB vs TNT is hard to predict now, after game 3, we thought that SMB would lose but we were surprised in game 4, they look like an old SMB and coach Leo Austria really made it a good adjustment making Tautua focus on the offense more. So what's gonna be the pick in game 5? Can anyone share their picks so I would be more confident to follow,  Grin


If basing from the quoted post of Russlenat, he's taking SMB again coming game 5, and I agree that after seeing how SMB play today they can really dominate and not to allow TNT to take that series advantage.

Though we are not sure if they will repeat that same system and they will continue to be tighter, not just focus with offense but also they are challenging each attempts of TNT players, plus the high confidence of all the veterans that make the big impact in winning this game.

SMB like what I've said, if playing solid and healthy is still the team to beat in this league.

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October 10, 2021, 08:19:54 PM
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The semi-finals series of SMB vs TNT is hard to predict now, after game 3, we thought that SMB would lose but we were surprised in game 4, they look like an old SMB and coach Leo Austria really made it a good adjustment making Tautua focus on the offense more. So what's gonna be the pick in game 5? Can anyone share their picks so I would be more confident to follow,  Grin


If basing from the quoted post of Russlenat, he's taking SMB again coming game 5, and I agree that after seeing how SMB play today they can really dominate and not to allow TNT to take that series advantage.

Though we are not sure if they will repeat that same system and they will continue to be tighter, not just focus with offense but also they are challenging each attempts of TNT players, plus the high confidence of all the veterans that make the big impact in winning this game.

SMB like what I've said, if playing solid and healthy is still the team to beat in this league.


Yes, I'm still taking the SMB in game 5, with what they've shown in game 4, there's no reason for me to not back them, they are playing really well, so who knows they would do the same in game 5. Now, the pressure is on the TNT as they let the SMB tied the series and they allow them to beat them big time in the last game. 

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October 10, 2021, 09:45:30 PM
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Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

It was a lucky day for me, not a big win but winning a parlay is good as it does not come everyday. I'm looking forward to another win of SMB and I think they will break the trend in game 5 and they will beat the TNT to have a lead in the best of 7 series. I am sure that Magnolia will win and they win it easily although Meralco was able to close the gap in the 4th quarter it was not enough to complete a comeback.

Congrats mate, that's a good win. You are truly a Beermen believer. Seeing game 3 I thought that TNT got SMB's number and thought that SMB would be struggling still in game 4 so i bet for TNT, I should have stick to the belief of some users that PBA is rigged and this series would go to game 7 lol.

Magnolia and Meralco are not so hard to guess as the talent disparity of its roster is very evident so we might see an all SMC team in the finals this year huh.
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October 10, 2021, 10:24:03 PM
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Yes, I'm still taking the SMB in game 5, with what they've shown in game 4, there's no reason for me to not back them, they are playing really well, so who knows they would do the same in game 5. Now, the pressure is on the TNT as they let the SMB tied the series and they allow them to beat them big time in the last game. 

Not surprised with the SMB win but rather I'm amazed at their Game 4 performance. It's the first time that TNT struggles throughout the entire game. What a performance that they were able to make big leads up to 37 points. No team does that against TNT this conference.

I hope they will maintain that firepower. In Game 1 to 3, SMB was always behind and putting efforts to make a rally. They changed that in Game 4. Like to see the series extending until last. It's like watching the same Finals experience already.

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October 11, 2021, 05:39:20 AM
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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.
If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

Some would think that they are rigging the series as its finest, lol. The series will goes to game 7 and that would attract a lot of viewers since both teams has a big fan base. Magnolia already lead 3-1 and they will likely advance in the Finals, so I like the TNT to win so it will be a battle of Pangilinan vs Cojuangco and it's a real battle IMO.

If they think that way, then that's only on them as PBA has never been proven to be rigging their games. It is what it is, if you are a bettor, you'll never complain as you just bet on the right side and win. The next game is gonna be close (hope so) because they have already known each other and they will play with the right defense since the winner in game 5 will only be 1 win away to win the series.

I never complain but you can never stop me from speculating on the rigging thing.

PBA is the most popular basketball league in the Philippines and yet it's only controlled by two popular names in the business world, I guess that's one of the reasons why people think the game could be rig as for example if Magnolia vs SMB will play in the Finals, do you think they won't rig it to make it a long series?

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October 11, 2021, 06:43:55 AM
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Yes, I'm still taking the SMB in game 5, with what they've shown in game 4, there's no reason for me to not back them, they are playing really well, so who knows they would do the same in game 5. Now, the pressure is on the TNT as they let the SMB tied the series and they allow them to beat them big time in the last game. 

Not surprised with the SMB win but rather I'm amazed at their Game 4 performance. It's the first time that TNT struggles throughout the entire game. What a performance that they were able to make big leads up to 37 points. No team does that against TNT this conference.

I hope they will maintain that firepower. In Game 1 to 3, SMB was always behind and putting efforts to make a rally. They changed that in Game 4. Like to see the series extending until last. It's like watching the same Finals experience already.

I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

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October 11, 2021, 07:13:37 AM
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I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

I agree Kabayan! TNT will adjust, Coach Chot expect the kind of adjustment SMB will give them after that win last game 3, see all the veterans with extended minutes inside, that's the SMB we used to love they are all there to lift each other and to play together.
Now it's time for Chot Reyes to do his job, same deal with Leo Austria. Not everything is in the hands of the players, but coaches' design plays are very important.

We might expect TNT to counter and not to allow SMB to bully them with that tight defense. They've got the talent and they know that somehow they can match everything. They just need to prepare harder.

Aggressiveness with control, Players wise both teams have a winning combo not undersize or lack of talents if advantages, both deserve the win.

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October 11, 2021, 07:24:31 AM
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I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

I agree Kabayan! TNT will adjust, Coach Chot expect the kind of adjustment SMB will give them after that win last game 3, see all the veterans with extended minutes inside, that's the SMB we used to love they are all there to lift each other and to play together.
Now it's time for Chot Reyes to do his job, same deal with Leo Austria. Not everything is in the hands of the players, but coaches' design plays are very important.

We might expect TNT to counter and not to allow SMB to bully them with that tight defense. They've got the talent and they know that somehow they can match everything. They just need to prepare harder.

Aggressiveness with control, Players wise both teams have a winning combo not undersize or lack of talents if advantages, both deserve the win.


I doubt Tautua would do the same contribution he did in game 4, things will be different in game 5, TNT will be more aggressive with their defense and they will once again impose their effective strategy against SMB. As far as this series goes, I only see one game where SMB really dominate, the other 3 games, it was TNT who were dominating but sometimes they are careless which resulted to a heartbreaking loss.

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October 11, 2021, 04:16:59 PM
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I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

I agree Kabayan! TNT will adjust, Coach Chot expect the kind of adjustment SMB will give them after that win last game 3, see all the veterans with extended minutes inside, that's the SMB we used to love they are all there to lift each other and to play together.
Now it's time for Chot Reyes to do his job, same deal with Leo Austria. Not everything is in the hands of the players, but coaches' design plays are very important.

We might expect TNT to counter and not to allow SMB to bully them with that tight defense. They've got the talent and they know that somehow they can match everything. They just need to prepare harder.

Aggressiveness with control, Players wise both teams have a winning combo not undersize or lack of talents if advantages, both deserve the win.


I doubt Tautua would do the same contribution he did in game 4, things will be different in game 5, TNT will be more aggressive with their defense and they will once again impose their effective strategy against SMB. As far as this series goes, I only see one game where SMB really dominate, the other 3 games, it was TNT who were dominating but sometimes they are careless which resulted to a heartbreaking loss.

SMB would not rely on one player only, in their last win, it was Romeo who exploded, now it's Tautua, so they are really unpredictable here. Just make game 3 as a basis, who would have expected that after a bad loss in game 3 where they got dominated by the TNT they bounce back by winning a huge margin, I think a lot of bettors were putting their money on the TNT to win in game 4, but like I said, SMB was very unpredictable.

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October 11, 2021, 04:39:00 PM
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SMB would not rely on one player only, in their last win, it was Romeo who exploded, now it's Tautua, so they are really unpredictable here. Just make game 3 as a basis, who would have expected that after a bad loss in game 3 where they got dominated by the TNT they bounce back by winning a huge margin, I think a lot of bettors were putting their money on the TNT to win in game 4, but like I said, SMB was very unpredictable.

Or maybe the game was rigged? Kidding aside, we really don't know what SMB players will come up in their next meeting.

After that loss in game 3, most bettors sided with TNT. We witness how they dominated the game, but likewise,
SMB bounced back and tied the series with the same domination. We don't know now if who's really has the
edge both teams are doing their best.

It's really more entertaining if this semis happens to be the finals, more money will flow right?
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October 11, 2021, 04:50:36 PM
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SMB would not rely on one player only, in their last win, it was Romeo who exploded, now it's Tautua, so they are really unpredictable here. Just make game 3 as a basis, who would have expected that after a bad loss in game 3 where they got dominated by the TNT they bounce back by winning a huge margin, I think a lot of bettors were putting their money on the TNT to win in game 4, but like I said, SMB was very unpredictable.

Or maybe the game was rigged? Kidding aside, we really don't know what SMB players will come up in their next meeting.

After that loss in game 3, most bettors sided with TNT. We witness how they dominated the game, but likewise,
SMB bounced back and tied the series with the same domination. We don't know now if who's really has the
edge both teams are doing their best.

It's really more entertaining if this semis happens to be the finals, more money will flow right?


It could be rigged but it's just speculation, no one can prove it is.

What's important is the series is now more exciting as we might see a game 7 of this series.
TNT had a very good start but they allow the SMB to even the series, now let's see what's their adjustment in game 5.

Game 5 will be this Wednesday I guess, that's why I still could not see the betting odds yet.

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October 11, 2021, 05:11:53 PM
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I doubt Tautua would do the same contribution he did in game 4, things will be different in game 5, TNT will be more aggressive with their defense and they will once again impose their effective strategy against SMB. As far as this series goes, I only see one game where SMB really dominate, the other 3 games, it was TNT who were dominating but sometimes they are careless which resulted to a heartbreaking loss.

I don't think so, SMB almost snatches the game 1 and fulfills it in game 2, only game 3 where TNT dominates the game and after that we see adjustments that being done from SMB camp. All star SMB shows what domination is. If you have those kinds of players who really work on both sides, you don't need anyone to single-handed the game; I agree with you that Tau may not be able to play the same hype, but don't forget that Perez also has cheat mode, so with Romeo and Fajardo.

Those are the names who can really produce double digits, while the best backups are there, Cabagnot, Lassiter and Ross, who can also bring numbers. Once everyone blends well, expect to see another domination from SMB.

Though we can't tell if they will play that level again, just wait when they meet again, no further update with the game schedule as of checking from PBA official site.

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October 11, 2021, 08:56:35 PM
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I doubt Tautua would do the same contribution he did in game 4, things will be different in game 5, TNT will be more aggressive with their defense and they will once again impose their effective strategy against SMB. As far as this series goes, I only see one game where SMB really dominate, the other 3 games, it was TNT who were dominating but sometimes they are careless which resulted to a heartbreaking loss.

I don't think so, SMB almost snatches the game 1 and fulfills it in game 2, only game 3 where TNT dominates the game and after that we see adjustments that being done from SMB camp. All star SMB shows what domination is. If you have those kinds of players who really work on both sides, you don't need anyone to single-handed the game; I agree with you that Tau may not be able to play the same hype, but don't forget that Perez also has cheat mode, so with Romeo and Fajardo.

Those are the names who can really produce double digits, while the best backups are there, Cabagnot, Lassiter and Ross, who can also bring numbers. Once everyone blends well, expect to see another domination from SMB.

Though we can't tell if they will play that level again, just wait when they meet again, no further update with the game schedule as of checking from PBA official site.

These are just my personal view though, yes, they almost win in game 1 but it was still TNT who have a big lead early, SMB just had a big run in the 4th quarter and unfortunately, they were not able to complete it the win. In the 3rd quarter, the score was 19-29 TNT, while in the 4th quarter, 18-28 SMB. 10  point lead is not enough for them to beat the TNT and it's been always like that, SMB will have a big run usually in the last quarter like what they did in game 2 where they finally succeed to win.

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October 11, 2021, 09:17:22 PM
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These are just my personal view though, yes, they almost win in game 1 but it was still TNT who have a big lead early, SMB just had a big run in the 4th quarter and unfortunately, they were not able to complete it the win. In the 3rd quarter, the score was 19-29 TNT, while in the 4th quarter, 18-28 SMB. 10  point lead is not enough for them to beat the TNT and it's been always like that, SMB will have a big run usually in the last quarter like what they did in game 2 where they finally succeed to win.

If you guys noticed, it was Pogoy who carried TNT Katropa on the first three games, scoring 20+ points on each game while only managed to score a single bucket in the last game when SMB's defense clamped down on him so I think SMB would be now focused on stopping/limiting Pogoy for them to win the series. A lot of adjustments for SMB in game four that worked that gave them the big win so i think they will do the same in game 5.

On a side note, I do hope that Poy Erram is okay and could play in the next game. He was brought to the hospital for check up for that apparent head injury he sustain colliding with Mo.
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These are just my personal view though, yes, they almost win in game 1 but it was still TNT who have a big lead early, SMB just had a big run in the 4th quarter and unfortunately, they were not able to complete it the win. In the 3rd quarter, the score was 19-29 TNT, while in the 4th quarter, 18-28 SMB. 10  point lead is not enough for them to beat the TNT and it's been always like that, SMB will have a big run usually in the last quarter like what they did in game 2 where they finally succeed to win.

If you guys noticed, it was Pogoy who carried TNT Katropa on the first three games, scoring 20+ points on each game while only managed to score a single bucket in the last game when SMB's defense clamped down on him so I think SMB would be now focused on stopping/limiting Pogoy for them to win the series. A lot of adjustments for SMB in game four that worked that gave them the big win so i think they will do the same in game 5.

On a side note, I do hope that Poy Erram is okay and could play in the next game. He was brought to the hospital for check up for that apparent head injury he sustain colliding with Mo.

Pogoy was the most consistent scorer in the lineup, he should heat up again in game 5 so the TNT could take the lead in the series. Poy Erram as well is contributing 20 points or more for the team but last game he was only held up to 3 points. As for the latest news, Erram is doubtful in game 5, so this is a big problem for TNT as they will miss a big man who can score on Fajardo.

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