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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 12, 2021, 09:46:42 AM
Last edit: October 12, 2021, 09:58:19 AM by LogitechMouse
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These are just my personal view though, yes, they almost win in game 1 but it was still TNT who have a big lead early, SMB just had a big run in the 4th quarter and unfortunately, they were not able to complete it the win. In the 3rd quarter, the score was 19-29 TNT, while in the 4th quarter, 18-28 SMB. 10  point lead is not enough for them to beat the TNT and it's been always like that, SMB will have a big run usually in the last quarter like what they did in game 2 where they finally succeed to win.

If you guys noticed, it was Pogoy who carried TNT Katropa on the first three games, scoring 20+ points on each game while only managed to score a single bucket in the last game when SMB's defense clamped down on him so I think SMB would be now focused on stopping/limiting Pogoy for them to win the series. A lot of adjustments for SMB in game four that worked that gave them the big win so i think they will do the same in game 5.

On a side note, I do hope that Poy Erram is okay and could play in the next game. He was brought to the hospital for check up for that apparent head injury he sustain colliding with Mo.

Pogoy was the most consistent scorer in the lineup, he should heat up again in game 5 so the TNT could take the lead in the series. Poy Erram as well is contributing 20 points or more for the team but last game he was only held up to 3 points. As for the latest news, Erram is doubtful in game 5, so this is a big problem for TNT as they will miss a big man who can score on Fajardo.

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Poy Erram’s status for Game 5 of the PBA Philippine Cup semifinals between TNT and San Miguel Beer remains uncertain due to a suspected fracture on his cheekbone.


I don't know if what Mo did to Erram is the reason why he got injured but it seems that it is. Either way, his absence will affect the team that much.
With him out for Game 5 (if he will), the TNT will rely mostly on Troy, Dave "Gwapo" Marcelo and Khobuntin which isn't that big compare to JMF and Tautuaa. The good news though is that, Williams might return earliest in Game 5 says Coach Chot: LINK

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“I think the earliest possible is Game 5. That’s the earliest possible, but still it’s not a guarantee,” according to TnT coach Chot Reyes.

Erram is the best defender for Fajardo no doubt so his absence will be felt by the team especially on the paint but him being absent doesn't mean that they have no match for SMB. I don't think though that he will be 100% healthy in Game 5 if he manages to play. I just hope that Williams will really come back on Game 5.

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October 12, 2021, 12:07:48 PM
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Looks like Erram is unlikely to play in game 5.

The odds are out and SMB is currently -2.5 which we didn't see in the previous games that they have this kind of spread early.
I guess I would just wait for the game time and see if Erram is available, if he is out then probably I would not hesitate betting on the SMB but if he will play, then I would try to bet on the TNT hoping they'll win in game 5.

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October 12, 2021, 12:22:24 PM
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These are just my personal view though, yes, they almost win in game 1 but it was still TNT who have a big lead early, SMB just had a big run in the 4th quarter and unfortunately, they were not able to complete it the win. In the 3rd quarter, the score was 19-29 TNT, while in the 4th quarter, 18-28 SMB. 10  point lead is not enough for them to beat the TNT and it's been always like that, SMB will have a big run usually in the last quarter like what they did in game 2 where they finally succeed to win.

If you guys noticed, it was Pogoy who carried TNT Katropa on the first three games, scoring 20+ points on each game while only managed to score a single bucket in the last game when SMB's defense clamped down on him so I think SMB would be now focused on stopping/limiting Pogoy for them to win the series. A lot of adjustments for SMB in game four that worked that gave them the big win so i think they will do the same in game 5.

On a side note, I do hope that Poy Erram is okay and could play in the next game. He was brought to the hospital for check up for that apparent head injury he sustain colliding with Mo.

I also wanted to point that up, Pogoy's numbers really affected as SMB adjusted defending him.

He's been challenged the whole night and not giving the open shots to give him confidence, if the same thing happens and SMB play the kind of game they
show up last game 4, it will be difficult for TNT to beat a team with high confidence.

Looks like Erram is unlikely to play in game 5.

The odds are out and SMB is currently -2.5 which we didn't see in the previous games that they have this kind of spread early.
I guess I would just wait for the game time and see if Erram is available, if he is out then probably I would not hesitate betting on the SMB but if he will play, then I would try to bet on the TNT hoping they'll win in game 5.

If you are not sure about the news that spreads out, best to wait during the live game and bet when Erram is not there, but expect that the odd

will change a lot, this young center has a big impact on TNT, scoring and defending wise.
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October 12, 2021, 12:39:03 PM
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Looks like Erram is unlikely to play in game 5.

The odds are out and SMB is currently -2.5 which we didn't see in the previous games that they have this kind of spread early.
I guess I would just wait for the game time and see if Erram is available, if he is out then probably I would not hesitate betting on the SMB but if he will play, then I would try to bet on the TNT hoping they'll win in game 5.

If you are not sure about the news that spreads out, best to wait during the live game and bet when Erram is not there, but expect that the odd

will change a lot, this young center has a big impact on TNT, scoring and defending wise.

Yes, I would do that, the news says that Erram might have a fracture on his cheekbone but there's no official statement regarding his injury yet and since game 5 will be tomorrow, I would just wait, no need to hurry because I can still bet during a live game and I might be able to take a good odds if SMB will start strong again. Also, I'm looking forward to the TNT making an adjustment, so hopefully, I'll be able to see that in the first quarter.

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October 12, 2021, 12:48:49 PM
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Looks like Erram is unlikely to play in game 5.

The odds are out and SMB is currently -2.5 which we didn't see in the previous games that they have this kind of spread early.
I guess I would just wait for the game time and see if Erram is available, if he is out then probably I would not hesitate betting on the SMB but if he will play, then I would try to bet on the TNT hoping they'll win in game 5.

If you are not sure about the news that spreads out, best to wait during the live game and bet when Erram is not there, but expect that the odd

will change a lot, this young center has a big impact on TNT, scoring and defending wise.

Yes, I would do that, the news says that Erram might have a fracture on his cheekbone but there's no official statement regarding his injury yet and since game 5 will be tomorrow, I would just wait, no need to hurry because I can still bet during a live game and I might be able to take a good odds if SMB will start strong again. Also, I'm looking forward to the TNT making an adjustment, so hopefully, I'll be able to see that in the first quarter.

How about the Meralco vs Magnolia, aren't you guys talking about this?

Betting odds are also available, this is a close-out game for Magnolia and I think they will make sure the series will end tomorrow.
Hotshots is only -3.5 now, I think this is a gift as they won by huge margin in their last 3 wins.

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October 12, 2021, 01:35:44 PM
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Looks like Erram is unlikely to play in game 5.

The odds are out and SMB is currently -2.5 which we didn't see in the previous games that they have this kind of spread early.
I guess I would just wait for the game time and see if Erram is available, if he is out then probably I would not hesitate betting on the SMB but if he will play, then I would try to bet on the TNT hoping they'll win in game 5.
With that note, the chances of SMB winning them will be higher with Erram not playing in Game 5.
If I'm Coach Chot, I will not push Erram to play if he is unlikely to play because it might affect them the whole series especially that Williams might miss some games too (hope not).

If you are a bettor then just bet during the game and see if Erram will play or not Smiley. On the other hand though, I'm not saying that if Erram will not play then SMB will win automatically. They still have these "kurimaws" that Coach Chot has been saying that can help the team. The bench of TNT is deep too.

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October 12, 2021, 01:39:06 PM
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How about the Meralco vs Magnolia, aren't you guys talking about this?

Betting odds are also available, this is a close-out game for Magnolia and I think they will make sure the series will end tomorrow.
Hotshots is only -3.5 now, I think this is a gift as they won by huge margin in their last 3 wins.

I'd take Magnolia whatever the odds is, the main reason is the "closeout game", they have been dominating the Meralco since Almazan gets injured, so there's no reason for me to believe that Meralco will be able to come back in the series, even if Almazan will come back which I'm pretty sure not 100% yet.
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October 12, 2021, 08:47:35 PM
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How about the Meralco vs Magnolia, aren't you guys talking about this?

Betting odds are also available, this is a close-out game for Magnolia and I think they will make sure the series will end tomorrow.
Hotshots is only -3.5 now, I think this is a gift as they won by huge margin in their last 3 wins.

I'd take Magnolia whatever the odds is, the main reason is the "closeout game", they have been dominating the Meralco since Almazan gets injured, so there's no reason for me to believe that Meralco will be able to come back in the series, even if Almazan will come back which I'm pretty sure not 100% yet.

More or less Magnolia will take care of this series. If Almazan is not there, the inner core of Magnolia will abuse everyone inside. I don't see any problem with Magnolia in finishing the Bolts, if they wanted to have a much better edge moving to the finals, completing the task from this series is the best thing to do, it will give them enough rest and fresh legs when the series between SMB and TNT ended, more or less it takes another 1 or 2 more games.

With odds like that and from the past results, it can be covered unless Meralco will push it harder to extend this series. We never know what are the possibilities.. Wink

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October 12, 2021, 09:13:56 PM
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How about the Meralco vs Magnolia, aren't you guys talking about this?

Betting odds are also available, this is a close-out game for Magnolia and I think they will make sure the series will end tomorrow.
Hotshots is only -3.5 now, I think this is a gift as they won by huge margin in their last 3 wins.

I'd take Magnolia whatever the odds is, the main reason is the "closeout game", they have been dominating the Meralco since Almazan gets injured, so there's no reason for me to believe that Meralco will be able to come back in the series, even if Almazan will come back which I'm pretty sure not 100% yet.

More or less Magnolia will take care of this series. If Almazan is not there, the inner core of Magnolia will abuse everyone inside. I don't see any problem with Magnolia in finishing the Bolts, if they wanted to have a much better edge moving to the finals, completing the task from this series is the best thing to do, it will give them enough rest and fresh legs when the series between SMB and TNT ended, more or less it takes another 1 or 2 more games.

With odds like that and from the past results, it can be covered unless Meralco will push it harder to extend this series. We never know what are the possibilities.. Wink

The most important game for Magnolia, closeout game is the most important and they will try to make it possible because they want to rest early while waiting for the SMB vs TNT series. Everyone should consider betting on Magnolia today, they won't loss this game, they have been dominating the Meralco in this series, so with or without Almazan, I think the result would be the same.

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October 12, 2021, 09:59:43 PM
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My bets for today:

Magnolia -3.5 @1.92 boosted
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An SMC team is surely to take a seat in the finals, Magnolia is just too lethal for Meralco to take down for now. Almazan is not 100% percent healthy so he is not a big help to Meralco even if he will play, it will just aggravates his injury so better for him to rest.

SMB vs TNT series is just too hard to predict for me so i just bet using my heart this time as a Beermen fan  Grin. I'm okay though if TNT would take this series as for the fans to see another faces in the finals this time. 
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October 12, 2021, 11:04:09 PM
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My bets for today:

Magnolia -3.5 @1.92 boosted
SMB ML @1.90

An SMC team is surely to take a seat in the finals, Magnolia is just too lethal for Meralco to take down for now. Almazan is not 100% percent healthy so he is not a big help to Meralco even if he will play, it will just aggravates his injury so better for him to rest.

SMB vs TNT series is just too hard to predict for me so i just bet using my heart this time as a Beermen fan  Grin. I'm okay though if TNT would take this series as for the fans to see another faces in the finals this time. 

I see your point. Magnolia is very capable to take the first sit, unless they will careless like Clippers way back. But talent wise they really have a good edge against the opposing team, and just like what I have mentioned without Almazan The Pinatubo Bro will keep going inside, then here comes the guards of magnolia, If Lee will explode again this series will be finished, not far to happen Roll Eyes

SMB fan here too!  Wink I want to see them playing the same level as how they dominated TNT last game 4. If that happens, they will take the lead and have the greater chance of winning this series.

By way, how about the rigging stuff?  Grin Cheesy kidding aside Good Luck !


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October 13, 2021, 05:08:54 AM
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My bets for today:

Magnolia -3.5 @1.92 boosted
SMB ML @1.90

An SMC team is surely to take a seat in the finals, Magnolia is just too lethal for Meralco to take down for now. Almazan is not 100% percent healthy so he is not a big help to Meralco even if he will play, it will just aggravates his injury so better for him to rest.

SMB vs TNT series is just too hard to predict for me so i just bet using my heart this time as a Beermen fan  Grin. I'm okay though if TNT would take this series as for the fans to see another faces in the finals this time. 

I see your point. Magnolia is very capable to take the first sit, unless they will careless like Clippers way back. But talent wise they really have a good edge against the opposing team, and just like what I have mentioned without Almazan The Pinatubo Bro will keep going inside, then here comes the guards of magnolia, If Lee will explode again this series will be finished, not far to happen Roll Eyes

SMB fan here too!  Wink I want to see them playing the same level as how they dominated TNT last game 4. If that happens, they will take the lead and have the greater chance of winning this series.

By way, how about the rigging stuff?  Grin Cheesy kidding aside Good Luck !



Positive news for the Bolts.

Bolts get Almazan, Jackson, Jamito back in time for Game 5

Bolts look healthy again, they will be able to help their team in this elimination game, however, I think I would agree with bisdak40 as it's too late for them, they won't be 100% healthy and the Magnolia are still very healthy and a stronger team to defeat them.

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October 13, 2021, 06:18:51 AM
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My bets for today:

Magnolia -3.5 @1.92 boosted
SMB ML @1.90

An SMC team is surely to take a seat in the finals, Magnolia is just too lethal for Meralco to take down for now. Almazan is not 100% percent healthy so he is not a big help to Meralco even if he will play, it will just aggravates his injury so better for him to rest.

SMB vs TNT series is just too hard to predict for me so i just bet using my heart this time as a Beermen fan  Grin. I'm okay though if TNT would take this series as for the fans to see another faces in the finals this time. 

I see your point. Magnolia is very capable to take the first sit, unless they will careless like Clippers way back. But talent wise they really have a good edge against the opposing team, and just like what I have mentioned without Almazan The Pinatubo Bro will keep going inside, then here comes the guards of magnolia, If Lee will explode again this series will be finished, not far to happen Roll Eyes

SMB fan here too!  Wink I want to see them playing the same level as how they dominated TNT last game 4. If that happens, they will take the lead and have the greater chance of winning this series.

By way, how about the rigging stuff?  Grin Cheesy kidding aside Good Luck !



Positive news for the Bolts.

Bolts get Almazan, Jackson, Jamito back in time for Game 5

Bolts look healthy again, they will be able to help their team in this elimination game, however, I think I would agree with bisdak40 as it's too late for them, they won't be 100% healthy and the Magnolia are still very healthy and a stronger team to defeat them.

It's positive news but I don't see it as big news that would change my view in game 5. I still think and believe that it will be the last game of Meralco in the series and Magnolia will win to take a rest. I doubt Magnolia would struggle to play the Bolts with 3 players back in the lineup, the most important person of the 3 is only Almazan, if he is not 100%, he will only be abuse inside as the Magnolia has a lot of bigs that are too aggressive.

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October 13, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
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My bets for today:

Magnolia -3.5 @1.92 boosted
SMB ML @1.90

An SMC team is surely to take a seat in the finals, Magnolia is just too lethal for Meralco to take down for now. Almazan is not 100% percent healthy so he is not a big help to Meralco even if he will play, it will just aggravates his injury so better for him to rest.

SMB vs TNT series is just too hard to predict for me so i just bet using my heart this time as a Beermen fan  Grin. I'm okay though if TNT would take this series as for the fans to see another faces in the finals this time. 

I see your point. Magnolia is very capable to take the first sit, unless they will careless like Clippers way back. But talent wise they really have a good edge against the opposing team, and just like what I have mentioned without Almazan The Pinatubo Bro will keep going inside, then here comes the guards of magnolia, If Lee will explode again this series will be finished, not far to happen Roll Eyes

SMB fan here too!  Wink I want to see them playing the same level as how they dominated TNT last game 4. If that happens, they will take the lead and have the greater chance of winning this series.

By way, how about the rigging stuff?  Grin Cheesy kidding aside Good Luck !



Positive news for the Bolts.

Bolts get Almazan, Jackson, Jamito back in time for Game 5

Bolts look healthy again, they will be able to help their team in this elimination game, however, I think I would agree with bisdak40 as it's too late for them, they won't be 100% healthy and the Magnolia are still very healthy and a stronger team to defeat them.

It's positive news but I don't see it as big news that would change my view in game 5. I still think and believe that it will be the last game of Meralco in the series and Magnolia will win to take a rest. I doubt Magnolia would struggle to play the Bolts with 3 players back in the lineup, the most important person of the 3 is only Almazan, if he is not 100%, he will only be abuse inside as the Magnolia has a lot of bigs that are too aggressive.

That's very positive as Meralco avoided elimination by winning the game. 102-98 is the final score, Pinto and Malikso both delivered for the team while Almazan with some good contribution with 10 rebounds and 9 points, without him, maybe the series is over.
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October 13, 2021, 11:04:07 AM
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Close game for Magnolia and Bolts, Maliksi's game was superb almost perfect on FG and must admit Bolts with semi-healthy Almazan, Magnolia could be in trouble. Series is tied now, and became more interesting now. Will Magnolia can comeback or Bolts with the momentum and confidence to outlast and upset Magnolia.
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October 13, 2021, 11:12:55 AM
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Close game for Magnolia and Bolts, Maliksi's game was superb almost perfect on FG and must admit Bolts with semi-healthy Almazan, Magnolia could be in trouble. Series is tied now, and became more interesting now. Will Magnolia can comeback or Bolts with the momentum and confidence to outlast and upset Magnolia.

The Series is not tied yet, before the game today, the series score was 3-1 in favor of Magnolia, it was a close-out game but they were not able to make it happen. Meanwhile, it looks like we are seeing the opposite of what happened in game 4, TNT is not dominating with a huge lead.



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October 13, 2021, 11:35:38 AM
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Meanwhile, it looks like we are seeing the opposite of what happened in game 4, TNT is not dominating with a huge lead.
I'm not sure if SMB would still be able to repeat what they did in game 2, TNT is so in control, SMB was not able to make a run in the 3rd quarter and they only have one quarter to beat the TNT which is unlikely to be seen here. As an SMB fan, I would be raising the flag and will give this win for TNT, I hope the starters will rests in the 4th quarter and prepare for game 6.

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October 13, 2021, 12:27:08 PM
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Meanwhile, it looks like we are seeing the opposite of what happened in game 4, TNT is not dominating with a huge lead.
I'm not sure if SMB would still be able to repeat what they did in game 2, TNT is so in control, SMB was not able to make a run in the 3rd quarter and they only have one quarter to beat the TNT which is unlikely to be seen here. As an SMB fan, I would be raising the flag and will give this win for TNT, I hope the starters will rests in the 4th quarter and prepare for game 6.

TNT takes this game away from SMB. The rainbow arc advantage really gives them the comfortable leads,

14 converted 3 point shots against 4 conversions from SMB. Fajardo tried to lift his team
with 23 points but ain't enough to counter the complete packages from TNT.

Castro, Pogoy and Williams are again making the damages, while the star veterans of SMB
is not that productive, Cabagnot only got 2,  Ross has 3 and Lassiter only got 5.


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October 13, 2021, 08:45:50 PM
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Meanwhile, it looks like we are seeing the opposite of what happened in game 4, TNT is not dominating with a huge lead.
I'm not sure if SMB would still be able to repeat what they did in game 2, TNT is so in control, SMB was not able to make a run in the 3rd quarter and they only have one quarter to beat the TNT which is unlikely to be seen here. As an SMB fan, I would be raising the flag and will give this win for TNT, I hope the starters will rests in the 4th quarter and prepare for game 6.

TNT takes this game away from SMB. The rainbow arc advantage really gives them the comfortable leads,

14 converted 3 point shots against 4 conversions from SMB. Fajardo tried to lift his team
with 23 points but ain't enough to counter the complete packages from TNT.

Castro, Pogoy and Williams are again making the damages, while the star veterans of SMB
is not that productive, Cabagnot only got 2,  Ross has 3 and Lassiter only got 5.


SMB tried to make a rally in the 4th quarter but it wasn't enough, TNT made sure they will not anymore have another heartbreaking loss and with their dominance in the game, they were able to take the lead in the series, one game away and TNT will advance in the Finals.

Are we gonna see a game 7 here?
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SMB tried to make a rally in the 4th quarter but it wasn't enough, TNT made sure they will not anymore have another heartbreaking loss and with their dominance in the game, they were able to take the lead in the series, one game away and TNT will advance in the Finals.

Are we gonna see a game 7 here?

With things going on here. I mean the see-saw battle and the pattern of the game, most probably we will see a do or die game 7 in this series. But with the addition of Kelly Williams in the line-up, TNT is stronger a notch and that makes me think that this could be it, TNT will go to the finals.

I just don't know what happen to the gunners of SMB, seems that they can't find their mark in the rainbow area while it was the opposite scenario on the TNT side where they were draining buckets like it's only free throws  Smiley. If TNT continues its high percentage goal in that area then there's no way SMB could bounce back but it's a good thing also as we will see an SMC vs MVP company in the finals.
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