2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Kasabus]

That means there are no changes after all, but if the spread of TNT is -2.5, I think that implies something, it could be a trap so everyone thinks the line is easy and they will take it. Let's wait for the odds to be available, we could see another magic in game 3 as that's the only way Magnolia will win.

Anything can happen but if Magnolia won't be able to find a way to make a good stop, expect that the outcome will continue to be like this, Lee needs to work things out, leading his team to try extending this series should be the focus for him in this upcoming game 3. 

Game 3 is the most important game in the series since the series is already 2-0, honestly, based IMO, this is the worst Finals that Paul Lee has ever played, maybe he is bothered with the injury but it's not an excuse though, I'm not sure if what would happen to him after this, maybe the will get traded?

If TNT wins, they just beat the 2 giant teams of the San Miguel Corporation, and that's big enough to be called a success on the part of Chot Reyes and the TNT roster of course.

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[Johnyz]

That means there are no changes after all, but if the spread of TNT is -2.5, I think that implies something, it could be a trap so everyone thinks the line is easy and they will take it. Let's wait for the odds to be available, we could see another magic in game 3 as that's the only way Magnolia will win.

Anything can happen but if Magnolia won't be able to find a way to make a good stop, expect that the outcome will continue to be like this, Lee needs to work things out, leading his team to try extending this series should be the focus for him in this upcoming game 3. 

Game 3 is the most important game in the series since the series is already 2-0, honestly, based IMO, this is the worst Finals that Paul Lee has ever played, maybe he is bothered with the injury but it's not an excuse though, I'm not sure if what would happen to him after this, maybe the will get traded?

If TNT wins, they just beat the 2 giant teams of the San Miguel Corporation, and that's big enough to be called a success on the part of Chot Reyes and the TNT roster of course.

This is a do or die match for Magnolia so this is very important for them though its not easy now to win especially against TNT who already have a good confidents towards game 3. As far as I know, Magnolia is the third team under San Miguel Corp. so this is a big achievement for Reyes and the rest of the team. Placing some bet now for game 3, I’m into TNT now.

[Yamifoud]

That means there are no changes after all, but if the spread of TNT is -2.5, I think that implies something, it could be a trap so everyone thinks the line is easy and they will take it. Let's wait for the odds to be available, we could see another magic in game 3 as that's the only way Magnolia will win.

Anything can happen but if Magnolia won't be able to find a way to make a good stop, expect that the outcome will continue to be like this, Lee needs to work things out, leading his team to try extending this series should be the focus for him in this upcoming game 3. 

Game 3 is the most important game in the series since the series is already 2-0, honestly, based IMO, this is the worst Finals that Paul Lee has ever played, maybe he is bothered with the injury but it's not an excuse though, I'm not sure if what would happen to him after this, maybe the will get traded?

If TNT wins, they just beat the 2 giant teams of the San Miguel Corporation, and that's big enough to be called a success on the part of Chot Reyes and the TNT roster of course.

This is a do or die match for Magnolia so this is very important for them though its not easy now to win especially against TNT who already have a good confidents towards game 3. As far as I know, Magnolia is the third team under San Miguel Corp. so this is a big achievement for Reyes and the rest of the team. Placing some bet now for game 3, I’m into TNT now.

So everyone is shifting to TNT now? LOL, you are not a die-hard fan.

Speaking of Dire hard fans, how I wish Ginebra will be better next conference or season so they'll not be eliminated easily.
I miss watching the team especially if their chemistry is good, so once C. Stand will play in the B League, I think it's nice if they could bring back Greg in the line up.

[Sanitough]

I will go with the flow, let's hope that Magnolia will even the series so we have a happy day with our wins.

I have some bets here that I like the odds, if this hits, I would enjoy drinking tonight. lol



Wish me luck "mga kabayan".

None of these bets had a chance to win, maybe I will still replicate this bet in game 3, that's going to be the last I will do it as it's a do or die game for Magnolia.

@goaldigger, I'm using bitsler as they have lots of markets and lots of special odds with higher possible return on my bet.

[Viscore]

Nothing can stop TNT now, they seem to be playing without pressure, up by 2 in the series and they are the favorites to win, I think the edge is really high. I was thinking that the injury of Williams was a big serious that will not him available in game 2, but we saw him play and he played the same, so great job for TNT for making that possible despite only one day of rest.

Paul Lee here is a major problem, not only he was not able to deliver in points but he also become a liability in defense.

Advance congratulations to the TNT Ka Tropa.

[samcrypto]

So everyone is shifting to TNT now? LOL, you are not a die-hard fan.

Speaking of Dire hard fans, how I wish Ginebra will be better next conference or season so they'll not be eliminated easily.
I miss watching the team especially if their chemistry is good, so once C. Stand will play in the B League, I think it's nice if they could bring back Greg in the line up.

I guess in betting there’s no such thing a die hard fan since you are betting with your Money so its not ok to still bet on your favorite team just to continue support them even if you are losing money. Well, this is just my thought and for me, getting too attached on a team is very risky, this is gambling though and not about being a fan.

TNT has a clear advantage here betting on Magnolia might be a risky move. Analyze it again before you bet.

[freedomgo]

So everyone is shifting to TNT now? LOL, you are not a die-hard fan.

Speaking of Dire hard fans, how I wish Ginebra will be better next conference or season so they'll not be eliminated easily.
I miss watching the team especially if their chemistry is good, so once C. Stand will play in the B League, I think it's nice if they could bring back Greg in the line up.

I guess in betting there’s no such thing a die hard fan since you are betting with your Money so its not ok to still bet on your favorite team just to continue support them even if you are losing money. Well, this is just my thought and for me, getting too attached on a team is very risky, this is gambling though and not about being a fan.

TNT has a clear advantage here betting on Magnolia might be a risky move. Analyze it again before you bet.

Some gamblers bet on their emotion, that's why they failed because bookies know that and they will take advantage of that.

That's what you called blindly betting as even if you already see that your team is losing, you still believe that they will win and you don't see the advantage anymore which is a big problem since, in order to win in sports betting, you should always look for an advantage so you will have a higher win rate ratio.

[Sanitough]

Game 3 betting lines are now available,  bet early if you like TNT to win as they are only -2.5.
over/under is 181.5...

If Magnolia will indeed be swept by the TNT, then I think even if the line is -5.5, TNT would still be able to cover it as they have been dominating the Magnolia in the last two games and they still don't have an answer.

[LogitechMouse]

Overall, MAG players just need to step up on shooting and find a way to stop Mikey Williams. Congrats on the TNT win.

They don't put much pressure on Williams, if the defender can't handle him, then maybe they should think of doubling him as he has been creating a lot of damage for Magnolia's defense. Williams scored 28 points in this game from 10-20 shooting, that's a high percentage, so clearly the defense was not effective.

Good thing for Magnolia they have a working Sanggalang who scored 25 points in this game, but Calvin had a bad shooting night who only made 3 of 11 attempts.

William is the big advantage here. This rookie without any pressure can easily take the shot with high confidence. Coach Chot sees that, and he continues using it, same play and same outcome. With the help of Castro and Rosario, TNT will keep on abusing Magnolia, if they want to win coaching staff needs to balance his man inside, putting new fresh legs and allow new defenders to try stopping those guards who already gained too much confidence. 

He is a rookie but with a lot of experience outside the country so I don't think that he will have pressure and knowing that he is on the top and the best team right now, he always has the green light to shoot if he is free or he wants too. He gained a lot of trust from his teammates and his coach, Coach Chot that is why he is getting this points.

Magnolia is known for their 3 guard set-up and their good defense and I expect that adjustments will be made by them. Maybe a man-to-man defense with Williams is possible, double-teaming him is also possible or putting him into foul trouble might too but that will be hard. He got a hard time during the TNT-SMB series and the MAG must do the same defense as SMB is doing with Williams.

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

[Hypnosis00]

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

Both needs to score but they are not actually a scorer with the same caliber like Paul Lee who can drop 20 points or more in a game. Magnolia's strength is their defense but they are not effectively using it against the TNT, so they have the problem as TNT knows both (defense and offense).

This is the only series that Jason Castro is very relaxed, I mean he does not need to carry the team in scoring as they have guys that can be trusted like Pogoy and Williams, and of course, you can also trust Rosario and Erram.

[Viscore]

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

Both needs to score but they are not actually a scorer with the same caliber like Paul Lee who can drop 20 points or more in a game. Magnolia's strength is their defense but they are not effectively using it against the TNT, so they have the problem as TNT knows both (defense and offense).

This is the only series that Jason Castro is very relaxed, I mean he does not need to carry the team in scoring as they have guys that can be trusted like Pogoy and Williams, and of course, you can also trust Rosario and Erram.

The line movement seems to favor the Magnolia Hotshots here, of course, it's understandable because Magnolia needs to win game 3 in order to be able to be back in the series. A loss here means a 90% chance they'll lose in the Finals, so they should take care of TNT and consider playing as if it's their last game. I have a feeling that tomorrow it will be the Magnolia who will be the favorites.

[samcrypto]

So everyone is shifting to TNT now? LOL, you are not a die-hard fan.

Speaking of Dire hard fans, how I wish Ginebra will be better next conference or season so they'll not be eliminated easily.
I miss watching the team especially if their chemistry is good, so once C. Stand will play in the B League, I think it's nice if they could bring back Greg in the line up.

I guess in betting there’s no such thing a die hard fan since you are betting with your Money so its not ok to still bet on your favorite team just to continue support them even if you are losing money. Well, this is just my thought and for me, getting too attached on a team is very risky, this is gambling though and not about being a fan.

TNT has a clear advantage here betting on Magnolia might be a risky move. Analyze it again before you bet.

Some gamblers bet on their emotion, that's why they failed because bookies know that and they will take advantage of that.

That's what you called blindly betting as even if you already see that your team is losing, you still believe that they will win and you don't see the advantage anymore which is a big problem since, in order to win in sports betting, you should always look for an advantage so you will have a higher win rate ratio.

Exactly, we should always bet based on the fact and not by our emotions, this is gambling and your money is at risk here.
Betting line are now open as I can see, and looks like TNT is on a great odds simply because they are one win away to get the title, and they really dominate the games against Magnolia. If you're into Magnolia till the end because its your favorite team, then I guess that's the risk you take so be ready for its result.

[Johnyz]

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

Both needs to score but they are not actually a scorer with the same caliber like Paul Lee who can drop 20 points or more in a game. Magnolia's strength is their defense but they are not effectively using it against the TNT, so they have the problem as TNT knows both (defense and offense).

This is the only series that Jason Castro is very relaxed, I mean he does not need to carry the team in scoring as they have guys that can be trusted like Pogoy and Williams, and of course, you can also trust Rosario and Erram.

The line movement seems to favor the Magnolia Hotshots here, of course, it's understandable because Magnolia needs to win game 3 in order to be able to be back in the series. A loss here means a 90% chance they'll lose in the Finals, so they should take care of TNT and consider playing as if it's their last game. I have a feeling that tomorrow it will be the Magnolia who will be the favorites.

They are already in the Finals and this is game best of 7 series though I also believe that Magnolia will not let this happen to be upset by TNT, expect a more man to man game play tomorrow as Magnolia is very eager to win and yes to be back on track. On the other hand, if TNT wants to take the title better not to be over confident as they still need to do their best to surely get the trophy, game 3 is very crucial for both teams.

[carlisle1]

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

Both needs to score but they are not actually a scorer with the same caliber like Paul Lee who can drop 20 points or more in a game. Magnolia's strength is their defense but they are not effectively using it against the TNT, so they have the problem as TNT knows both (defense and offense).

This is the only series that Jason Castro is very relaxed, I mean he does not need to carry the team in scoring as they have guys that can be trusted like Pogoy and Williams, and of course, you can also trust Rosario and Erram.

The line movement seems to favor the Magnolia Hotshots here, of course, it's understandable because Magnolia needs to win game 3 in order to be able to be back in the series. A loss here means a 90% chance they'll lose in the Finals, so they should take care of TNT and consider playing as if it's their last game. I have a feeling that tomorrow it will be the Magnolia who will be the favorites.

It's a hard comeback if they'll be down 0-3. TNT is very capable of sweeping them.

Magnolia needs to find the right blend. TNT is really dominating them in whatever system that they are using. Coach Chot always
have the answer a good remedy to keep the composures of his team to stay dominating.

There's a big chance that Magnolia will win tomorrow. They need it the most to keep their chance to continue surviving and extend
the series.

[Hypnosis00]

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

Both needs to score but they are not actually a scorer with the same caliber like Paul Lee who can drop 20 points or more in a game. Magnolia's strength is their defense but they are not effectively using it against the TNT, so they have the problem as TNT knows both (defense and offense).

This is the only series that Jason Castro is very relaxed, I mean he does not need to carry the team in scoring as they have guys that can be trusted like Pogoy and Williams, and of course, you can also trust Rosario and Erram.

The line movement seems to favor the Magnolia Hotshots here, of course, it's understandable because Magnolia needs to win game 3 in order to be able to be back in the series. A loss here means a 90% chance they'll lose in the Finals, so they should take care of TNT and consider playing as if it's their last game. I have a feeling that tomorrow it will be the Magnolia who will be the favorites.

It's a hard comeback if they'll be down 0-3. TNT is very capable of sweeping them.

Magnolia needs to find the right blend. TNT is really dominating them in whatever system that they are using. Coach Chot always
have the answer a good remedy to keep the composures of his team to stay dominating.

There's a big chance that Magnolia will win tomorrow. They need it the most to keep their chance to continue surviving and extend
the series.

The bigger chance is always on the side of TNT as they are dominating in the series, we only say that they have a bigger chance because they need to win the game, what if they still did not find the right blend and they continue to struggle?

IMO, the officials need to help by rigging the game so TNT will be in foul trouble and Magnolia will continue to attack using their advantage. If you notice the series between the Magnolia vs Meralco, it was Magnolia who looks unbeatable then suddenly Meralco won a game without Almazan and I think there's were the fixed happened, the series end in the score of 4-2.

[mirakal]

I think MAG lacks right now is a second scorer what do  you think? Lee is their scorer but he has a right shoulder injury and that leaves Sangalang as their primary scorer but him as well has a back spasms injury. Abueva needs to score more, Barroca needs to score more.

Both needs to score but they are not actually a scorer with the same caliber like Paul Lee who can drop 20 points or more in a game. Magnolia's strength is their defense but they are not effectively using it against the TNT, so they have the problem as TNT knows both (defense and offense).

This is the only series that Jason Castro is very relaxed, I mean he does not need to carry the team in scoring as they have guys that can be trusted like Pogoy and Williams, and of course, you can also trust Rosario and Erram.

The line movement seems to favor the Magnolia Hotshots here, of course, it's understandable because Magnolia needs to win game 3 in order to be able to be back in the series. A loss here means a 90% chance they'll lose in the Finals, so they should take care of TNT and consider playing as if it's their last game. I have a feeling that tomorrow it will be the Magnolia who will be the favorites.

It's a hard comeback if they'll be down 0-3. TNT is very capable of sweeping them.

Magnolia needs to find the right blend. TNT is really dominating them in whatever system that they are using. Coach Chot always
have the answer a good remedy to keep the composures of his team to stay dominating.

There's a big chance that Magnolia will win tomorrow. They need it the most to keep their chance to continue surviving and extend
the series.

The bigger chance is always on the side of TNT as they are dominating in the series, we only say that they have a bigger chance because they need to win the game, what if they still did not find the right blend and they continue to struggle?

IMO, the officials need to help by rigging the game so TNT will be in foul trouble and Magnolia will continue to attack using their advantage. If you notice the series between the Magnolia vs Meralco, it was Magnolia who looks unbeatable then suddenly Meralco won a game without Almazan and I think there's were the fixed happened, the series end in the score of 4-2.

If that's the scenario you saw then Magnolia has to win in game 3, no excuses for them, if they lose this game then bye-bye for them.

Paul Lee is the biggest problem here, it could be his injury that keeps bothering here but they are not also using their inside aggressiveness.
Sanggalang despite playing with injury were able to produce good numbers in game 3, so he needs to continue that while other players have to step up to help him secure a win.

Have you noticed that the rotation was limited? I mean I don't see many players getting minutes anymore.

[goinmerry]

There is no problem for Magnolia. Don't look at some reasons, guys. TNT is just difficult to handle on those Games 1 and 2. Enough of this minor injury, rotation, coach decision. Magnolia fans should accept that they can't match the TNT firepower.

Clearly, you can see how good TNT gameplay is and when it's Magnolia's turn now on offense, they are having difficulty making a bucket because of TNT hard defense. Magnolia also has a good defense but TNT is just good at getting buckets. In Game 2, especially on 3rd Quarter, there are lots of waste attempts that Magnolia did that can suppose the narrow the lead.

But of course, we are not closing the book yet here. Game 3 will be their turning point game, if they still lose it, Congrats TNT.

[harizen]

IMO, the officials need to help by rigging the game so TNT will be in foul trouble and Magnolia will continue to attack using their advantage. If you notice the series between the Magnolia vs Meralco, it was Magnolia who looks unbeatable then suddenly Meralco won a game without Almazan and I think there's were the fixed happened, the series end in the score of 4-2.

I don't see any benefits if the league will extend the series. They are just getting viewers on the web. There's no paid gate entrance compared to before when they are hitting up to 17,000 to 19,000 live audience on the event place so extending the series is necessary. Magnolia will now feel pressure next game and I think it will somehow boost their aggressiveness to stay focused as losing the next game will now give them a slim chance to snatch the PBA All-Filipino title.

The same scenario always at TNT, if they got the lead by 10 points at any phase of the game, it's now hard to bounce back. That's what Magnolia should try to avoid again and again.

[Kelvinid]

Congrats Magnolia, they win tonight and they are now officially back in the series although still down by 1 point.

I like to see game 4 if they can still make an adjustment, they did well although Williams had the best game of his life.
Congrats backers as well. 

[Japinat]

Paul Lee finally had a good game to lead his team to win.

He scored 21 points and good that he does not make a lot of attempts on his 3 point shots which he was not consistent in the last 2 games, that was a smart decision by him. TNT was tried to come back but Magnolia was able to hold on and they own this night so the series score now is 2-1, still in favor of the TNT.