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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 16, 2021, 10:37:09 PM
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What pattern are you following @ bisdak? hehehe.. game 7 might be a close game to the point that it can go to overtime,

O/U is not bad. If both teams explode, it's not hard to break that odd. It's pride between these two teams that will inspire players and coaches to
do the very best that they can to win.

Important stars of SMB and TNT must step forward. The key players are in need to standup and bring everything to the best level that they can.

See-saw pattern or Samalona, that is how it's called in our place. No team won consecutive games and if you have followed that then you must have won an ample amount of money if you really are a gambler. I have profited in this series already since I bet bigger for SMB whenever they lose  Grin.

But game 7 would be different, it's a pressure-packed game where players are gun shy usually, afraid of missing so this is the time where veterans usually come in. Cabagnot, Ross, Fajardo, and the rest of the death five of SMB have been through this a lot thus giving them the advantage in this situation and like some other users have said here, this would be a slow-paced game and a low scoring one so an under 190 bet usually wins.

GL everybody, hope we will enjoy the game tonight.

SMB ML @2.09 boosted, I didn't follow the pattern, followed my heart hehe, Junemar fan here  Grin.
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October 16, 2021, 10:57:57 PM
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But game 7 would be different, it's a pressure-packed game where players are gun shy usually, afraid of missing so this is the time where veterans usually come in.

Since the upcoming game is a do-or-die, the pressure will somehow change the team's behaviour and performance different from what happened from Game 1 to Game 6 where win-loss is alternate and we are seeing big leads. Here in the upcoming final game on the semi-finals, I'm expecting all players will feel more pumped and careful not to get too behind from a possible big lead scoring. I'm seeing Game 7 as a close game so I might put a bet for handicap instead.

Good luck to all bettors.

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October 16, 2021, 11:31:57 PM
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I don't see they will explode in this game, it will be a close game where the scoring is low, every position is very important so they will slow down the pace I believe and the play will be more physical. In this game 7, I think the SMB will win the battle if the pace is slow since it gives JMF the advantage and the SMB will take most of the rebounding opportunity.

I'm seeing the other way. They will explode more on their final game rather than play slowly because there's no room now for being comfortable and relaxed.

As much as possible, teams will try to make a quick rally at the first like what they are doing in their previous games where being down in a big lead entering the half has a chance to win the game. The game will be close but it doesn't mean a low-scoring phase.

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October 17, 2021, 09:21:02 AM
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Get your focus now on game 7 of SMB  vs TNT.

I'm currently seeing a close game and a very defensive type of game, the scoring is low, so I think those who bet on the under are smiling now already.

Good luck, hopefully, SMB will come back in the 2nd half as that's where they are good at.

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October 17, 2021, 09:41:12 AM
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Get your focus now on game 7 of SMB  vs TNT.

I'm currently seeing a close game and a very defensive type of game, the scoring is low, so I think those who bet on the under are smiling now already.

Good luck, hopefully, SMB will come back in the 2nd half as that's where they are good at.


The halftime score is 45-36, 9 points lead by TNT, they have to hold on as SMB are good in coming back and winning the game. Kelly Williams is scoring with 11 points already, this is rare, so I think TNT had a great chance of winning here as they have a great start and their big man is scoring. Let's see how SMB will adjust in the 2nd half, they need a good 3rd quarter run, otherwise, they'll gas out in the 4th.

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October 17, 2021, 11:25:40 AM
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Get your focus now on game 7 of SMB  vs TNT.

I'm currently seeing a close game and a very defensive type of game, the scoring is low, so I think those who bet on the under are smiling now already.

Good luck, hopefully, SMB will come back in the 2nd half as that's where they are good at.


The halftime score is 45-36, 9 points lead by TNT, they have to hold on as SMB are good in coming back and winning the game. Kelly Williams is scoring with 11 points already, this is rare, so I think TNT had a great chance of winning here as they have a great start and their big man is scoring. Let's see how SMB will adjust in the 2nd half, they need a good 3rd quarter run, otherwise, they'll gas out in the 4th.

SMB failed to make an adjustment and TNT were able to continue their lead and dominate the game.

Congratulations to the TNT backers, I was expecting a close game but it did not happen, though it's not a high-scoring game it's pretty well dominated by the TNT. Fajardo did his best but was not able to get the help that he needed to fight for the team, Tautua only scored 2 points, this is a downgrade of his previous game, but no excuses, TNT deserve this win as they work hard for this from the start of the conference.

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October 17, 2021, 11:29:14 AM
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Congrats to all the TNT backers here. Their 3-point shooting did tow them to the Finals this time and though I lose my bet but just happy on the other hand that it is not an all SMC team in the finals. Too early to predict but IMO, this series is a 50-50 as there is no clear advantage to either team.

Off-topic a bit, Japan B-league is eyeing PBA players to be in their league and rumors have it that Japeth Aguilar and Christian Standhardinger have lucrative offers to play for them. Japeth is offered 3M Php a month, far from that 900K Php (including bonus) that he currently receives.

Also, they are closely monitoring Junemar and might offer the biggest money to him as he is dominant and popular. This could be the beginning of the end of PBA, what do you think guys?
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October 17, 2021, 11:37:57 AM
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Congrats to all the TNT backers here. Their 3-point shooting did tow them to the Finals this time and though I lose my bet but just happy on the other hand that it is not an all SMC team in the finals. Too early to predict but IMO, this series is a 50-50 as there is no clear advantage to either team.
They played with heart and passion, the series was a roller coaster but it was a fun series though.

yeah, congrats to the TNT backers , you won tonight.

Off-topic a bit, Japan B-league is eyeing PBA players to be in their league and rumors have it that Japeth Aguilar and Christian Standhardinger have lucrative offers to play for them. Japeth is offered 3M Php a month, far from that 900K Php (including bonus) that he currently receives.

Also, they are closely monitoring Junemar and might offer the biggest money to him as he is dominant and popular. This could be the beginning of the end of PBA, what do you think guys?
I believe it's a good offer, these guys have to carefully evaluate everything, they are not getting any younger so it means their playing time in the PBA is already short. C. Stand might grab it, I'm not sure with Japeth though but that kind of offer is hard to resist.

JMF will stay for sure. (my guess)



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October 17, 2021, 12:44:51 PM
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Congrats to all the TNT backers here. Their 3-point shooting did tow them to the Finals this time and though I lose my bet but just happy on the other hand that it is not an all SMC team in the finals. Too early to predict but IMO, this series is a 50-50 as there is no clear advantage to either team.
SMB really got the pace in the first quarter but they lose their momentum in the second quarter and the fact that most of their all-star players got some injuries and early foul trouble, TNT really took advantage of it and give Coach Leo Austria his first Game 7 loss in his SMB coaching career.

I'm also thinking, what if JMF didn't get into foul trouble. What if Mo, Romeo and Perez didn't get those injuries. Will they win the series but.. a win is a win and those are part of the game. TNT Vs. MAG in PBA Finals Smiley. At least we will not see a SMC Vs. SMC right now since it is SMC Vs. MVP Smiley.

Off-topic a bit, Japan B-league is eyeing PBA players to be in their league and rumors have it that Japeth Aguilar and Christian Standhardinger have lucrative offers to play for them. Japeth is offered 3M Php a month, far from that 900K Php (including bonus) that he currently receives.

Also, they are closely monitoring Junemar and might offer the biggest money to him as he is dominant and popular. This could be the beginning of the end of PBA, what do you think guys?
I also see this post from Snow Badua regarding B-league eyeing PBA players such as Aguilar, C-Stan and even JMF. Also IIRC, even Mark Dickel (former coach of TNT) is now at the B-league (forgot the position).

Well, there is nothing wrong if those players will really go to B-league. There are no rules saying that a player is prohibited to play outside the country as long as the player has no contract anymore in their team. If this happens (hope not), it will make a huge domino effect for sure. We've seen the effect of Thirdy going to the B-league. Players from our country that still can't play into the PBA went to B-league to play, have more experience and earn more money. Even Kiefer and Ray Parks went to B-league because of the same reasons. I don't think though that it will be the beginning of the end of PBA. If there will be some PBA players that will go to B-League, it will be an opportunities for other PH players to showcase their skills in PBA Smiley.

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I read that SMB has never lost game 7, not anymore.

TNT dedicated their effort to dismantling the SMB and they successfully do it in game 7.
The contribution came from different players, it's not a one-man team, unlike the SMB where they mostly rely on JMF.

Time to go to Boracay for the SMB, LOL.


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October 17, 2021, 01:27:20 PM
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@mirakal, the picture looks like the SMB have celebrated the win. I think the picture was not in the game 7 picture, it was just posted for fun.

Congrats to the TNT, they won the battle in 7 games and it's a big success for coach chot as well as TNT reach to the Finals in the same year of his come back in coaching.

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October 17, 2021, 01:58:55 PM
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@mirakal, the picture looks like the SMB have celebrated the win. I think the picture was not in the game 7 picture, it was just posted for fun.

Congrats to the TNT, they won the battle in 7 games and it's a big success for coach chot as well as TNT reach to the Finals in the same year of his come back in coaching.


Remarkable comeback by coach Chot Reyes,
Time to complete this by winning another title for TNT. There's no doubt after watching the game TNT
really gives everything and they deserve this win, SMB good start didn't last long, after TNT gained the
momentum, each player inside really plays hard and contributes.

Not only by scoring but also by moving according to each gameplay, coach Chot maximizes the rotations
and it's really showcasing brilliant minds of this coach.

Congrats TNT fans !
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October 17, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
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@mirakal, the picture looks like the SMB have celebrated the win. I think the picture was not in the game 7 picture, it was just posted for fun.

Congrats to the TNT, they won the battle in 7 games and it's a big success for coach chot as well as TNT reach to the Finals in the same year of his come back in coaching.


Remarkable comeback by coach Chot Reyes,
Time to complete this by winning another title for TNT. There's no doubt after watching the game TNT
really gives everything and they deserve this win, SMB good start didn't last long, after TNT gained the
momentum, each player inside really plays hard and contributes.

Not only by scoring but also by moving according to each gameplay, coach Chot maximizes the rotations
and it's really showcasing brilliant minds of this coach.

Congrats TNT fans !


Kelly Williams's comeback from retirement was also a big help for the TNT roster, they have a big man who has been in many battles and in game 7 he really showed up and help the team for this big win. Now that we have a Coquangco vs Pangilinan in the PBA Finals, it will be a fair game that everyone would like to see, I hope it will be another game 7 but a more competitive or a close game compared to this series.

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October 17, 2021, 08:59:53 PM
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It's easier for bettors to decide what team to bet on in the Finals as both teams have an equal chance to win (IMO).

In terms of defense, I think Magnolia has an edge but under Coach Chot Reyes, TNT has really improved a lot.
The advantage of the Magnolia is their inside presence as Sanggalang and Abueva can both dominate inside and I don't think the bigs of TNT would be able to stop them.

I'm guessing, the odds for game 1 is TNT -1.5 and Magnolia +1.5

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October 17, 2021, 09:07:08 PM
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It's easier for bettors to decide what team to bet on in the Finals as both teams have an equal chance to win (IMO).

In terms of defense, I think Magnolia has an edge but under Coach Chot Reyes, TNT has really improved a lot.
The advantage of the Magnolia is their inside presence as Sanggalang and Abueva can both dominate inside and I don't think the bigs of TNT would be able to stop them.
We will see as TNT were able to minimize the output of a more dominant big man and the MVP.
TNT is ready for Magnolia, their pesky defense is not new to them, the good news is that TNT now has a lot of shooters and they are more comfortable with the new style of coaching of Chot Reyes.


I'm guessing, the odds for game 1 is TNT -1.5 and Magnolia +1.5
I'll take the underdog here.

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October 17, 2021, 09:57:23 PM
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Congrats to all the TNT backers here. Their 3-point shooting did tow them to the Finals this time and though I lose my bet but just happy on the other hand that it is not an all SMC team in the finals. Too early to predict but IMO, this series is a 50-50 as there is no clear advantage to either team.

Off-topic a bit, Japan B-league is eyeing PBA players to be in their league and rumors have it that Japeth Aguilar and Christian Standhardinger have lucrative offers to play for them. Japeth is offered 3M Php a month, far from that 900K Php (including bonus) that he currently receives.

Also, they are closely monitoring Junemar and might offer the biggest money to him as he is dominant and popular. This could be the beginning of the end of PBA, what do you think guys?

Japeth Aguilar's original plan is really to play overseas. He is vocal on that plan before and even trained in the US for his dream career. Unfortunately, things don't seem to go in his way so he ends up signing and playing in PBA. Now that he got an offer, it will be his key to fulfill his original dream.

Standhardinger also has no secret that he is receiving offers. He should get that as he is not fit with Ginebra lol.

JuneMar also needs to accept the offer because he is still lucky to have one as he is not already in his prime and is now injury proned. I also doubt he can bring an impact on the team that will sign him.
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It's easier for bettors to decide what team to bet on in the Finals as both teams have an equal chance to win (IMO).

No, it's more difficult to choose since they are equal. Bettors will mostly base their pick on their favorites regardless of their performance.

I'm with TNT Katropa this time. But first I need to watch their Game 1 performance before placing my bet. I will not bet just because I'm with TNT. I'm not a fan of both teams that's why I will use my gamblers' way.

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October 18, 2021, 06:05:05 AM
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It's easier for bettors to decide what team to bet on in the Finals as both teams have an equal chance to win (IMO).

No, it's more difficult to choose since they are equal. Bettors will mostly base their pick on their favorites regardless of their performance.

I'm with TNT Katropa this time. But first I need to watch their Game 1 performance before placing my bet. I will not bet just because I'm with TNT. I'm not a fan of both teams that's why I will use my gamblers' way.

You'll miss the fun if you will not bet in game 1, yes this is all about which team is your favorite to win and I think there's no need to overanalyze as this would be a close game. I like to bet on the series but there's no betting line for that, so how about one of our trusted members here set up a betting contest so everyone will have some fun.

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October 18, 2021, 06:22:01 AM
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It's easier for bettors to decide what team to bet on in the Finals as both teams have an equal chance to win (IMO).

No, it's more difficult to choose since they are equal. Bettors will mostly base their pick on their favorites regardless of their performance.

I'm with TNT Katropa this time. But first I need to watch their Game 1 performance before placing my bet. I will not bet just because I'm with TNT. I'm not a fan of both teams that's why I will use my gamblers' way.

Wise move Grin bet as a gambler find the advantage and carefully analyze before placing your money. Not a fan of both teams too, but it's better to see these two teams instead of seeing both SMC to play in the finals.

TNT and Magnolia, if we compared the roster gives a well balance squad, hard to predict both are hungry to win a title.

But bettors instinct also leading me to choose TNT. Coach Chot will give everything now. He always wanted to impress Boss "M" Grin Roll Eyes
Good luck !

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October 18, 2021, 06:41:32 AM
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It's easier for bettors to decide what team to bet on in the Finals as both teams have an equal chance to win (IMO).

No, it's more difficult to choose since they are equal. Bettors will mostly base their pick on their favorites regardless of their performance.

I'm with TNT Katropa this time. But first I need to watch their Game 1 performance before placing my bet. I will not bet just because I'm with TNT. I'm not a fan of both teams that's why I will use my gamblers' way.

You'll miss the fun if you will not bet in game 1, yes this is all about which team is your favorite to win and I think there's no need to overanalyze as this would be a close game. I like to bet on the series but there's no betting line for that, so how about one of our trusted members here set up a betting contest so everyone will have some fun.

I would love to join the betting if someone would set up a contest. maybe biskdak can do this.

Anyway, who do you think will win the best player of the conference? as per this article, it says that Calvin Abueva is leading the race.
 
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