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July 10, 2014, 12:13:29 PM |
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It seems to me that the USA is the only country now who does not admit the truth - even UN hasn't foundany Russian soldier in Ukraine. The cannot endlessly deny that Poroshenko is killing his citizens now only because they do not like him and his policy.
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July 10, 2014, 07:29:17 PM |
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It seems to me that the USA is the only country now who does not admit the truth - even UN hasn't foundany Russian soldier in Ukraine. The cannot endlessly deny that Poroshenko is killing his citizens now only because they do not like him and his policy.
They will try it, and so far it seems to be working. I think the US has other interests than peace in Ukraine; |
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Nemo1024
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July 11, 2014, 12:56:35 PM |
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It seems to me that the USA is the only country now who does not admit the truth - even UN hasn't foundany Russian soldier in Ukraine. The cannot endlessly deny that Poroshenko is killing his citizens now only because they do not like him and his policy.
Don't take their words at face-value. They have no illusion about what's going on in Ukraine. But they have to cover their real interests under the mask of incomprehension and ignorance. That's just it. US and Ukraine were doing the same when Donets and Lugansk regions held their independence referendums. Stage 1: Lie. Stage 2: If lies become impossible, twist and belittle the truth. Stage 3: If that becomes impossible, admit the facts using small print. For an example, see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysrk9BKfEGQI think he should now take care so as not to end like Miloshevich in the Hague!  By the way, the news article says that she got arrested on RF soil, when she tried to infiltrate Russia under the guise of a refugee. |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 11, 2014, 01:06:16 PM
Last edit: July 22, 2014, 01:06:43 PM by tee-rex |
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It seems to me that the USA is the only country now who does not admit the truth - even UN hasn't foundany Russian soldier in Ukraine. The cannot endlessly deny that Poroshenko is killing his citizens now only because they do not like him and his policy.
Don't take their words at face-value. They have no illusion about what's going on in Ukraine. But they have to cover their real interests under the mask of incomprehension and ignorance. That's just it. US and Ukraine were doing the same when Donets and Lugansk regions held their independence referendums. Stage 1: Lie. Stage 2: If lies become impossible, twist and belittle the truth. Stage 3: If that becomes impossible, admit the facts using small print. For an example, see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysrk9BKfEGQI think he should now take care so as not to end like Miloshevich in the Hague! By the way, the news article says that she got arrested on RF soil, when she tried to infiltrate Russia under the guise of a refugee. Is there any official info about how and where this woman got arrested? I mean something like a statement from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs? |
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July 11, 2014, 02:19:18 PM
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Corrected. Once bitten, twice shy.  |
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July 11, 2014, 03:04:38 PM
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I think he should now take care so as not to end like Miloshevich in the Hague!  |
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Nemo1024
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July 11, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
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A few news items from the war zone. Not all is well in Novorossia... Karlovka has been "ploughed up" by missiles: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405070575Strelkov reports that a column of military from Lviv has been demolished: http://rusvesna.su/news/14050696809 Ukrainian terrorists arrested in Moscow. They were under a guise of refugees: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405063095A southern group of Ukrainian forces has been surrounded. That Ukrainian army group has a lot or armour...: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405073946Deputy chief of Ukrainian border service died in artillery shelling on the Ukrainian-Russian border. http://rusvesna.su/news/1405072807And attack fighter jet that was molesting freedom fighters' positions around Perevalsk has been shot down: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405076127Battles still rage on the outskirts of Lugansk: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405076510A Lugansk businessman and doctor bought ammunition for the resistance army, paying the munitions factory: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405076831Confirmed large losses among the occupational forces, at least 200 dead, near Zelenopolje: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405080260People of Krasnodon believe in victory: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405081237A commander of a donetsk rocket division is accused of Journalist Anatolij Klain's murder, in that he gave direct order to shoot sharp rounds at civilians. http://rusvesna.su/news/1405100175Poroshenko threatens to kill freedom fighters in troves of tens and hundredshttp://www.interfax.ru/world/385329Joseph Biden, in a telephone conversation with Poroshenko gave indirect green light to storming and destruction of Donetsk. He promised that US will cover all reconstruction expenses http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1405084517 |
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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 11, 2014, 07:21:25 PM
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'At least 30' Ukrainian military killed as militia shell convoy with Grad rocketshttp://rt.com/news/172160-east-ukraine-military-killed/Dozens of Ukraine’s government troops have been reportedly killed after local militia shelled pro-Kiev military forces with Grad rocket launchers. President Poroshenko has vowed “killing hundreds” for each deceased soldier. The occupational forces are getting a taste of retribution.
4 dead, 16 injured as bus with miners fired upon in E. Ukrainehttp://rt.com/news/171984-bus-miners-attack-killed/At least four people have been killed and 16 injured after a bus carrying miners came under shelling in Lugansk Region, eastern Ukraine. The bombardment almost ripped the bus apart, according to local witnesses
Ukrainian jet Su-25 performed an air strike against coal mine in Rovenki. The mine belongs to Akhmetov. The war of the oligarchs in action: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405008532Current estimates that take the increasing rate of destruction of Novorosia's infrastructure, factories, mines into account, say that Novorossia will have suffered more severe destructions in a couple of months, than during the whole of the German Nazi occupation period and military activities to get the German Nazis out in 1940s.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 12, 2014, 12:23:23 PM |
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EU imposed sanctions on the leaders of Novorossia: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405156343Conscript soldiers of Ukrainian army ask to take them home: "It's not us who surrounds the resistance, but they are surrounding us" http://rusvesna.su/news/1405161805A woman who had to flee from Slavjansk says: "If ours don't win, life will lose its meaning" http://rusvesna.su/news/1405149829Freedom fighters shelled from Grad artillery Ukrainian positions near Russian border: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405151090Igor Strelkov reports: the enemy again suffers heavy losses near Ilavajsk: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405149563Izvarino under the enemy onslaught (video): http://rusvesna.su/news/1405113142Yalta saw a new international conference. The topic was "World crisis and the animosity in Ukraine" http://rusvesna.su/news/1405106243
4 killed, 'orphanage destroyed' in pro-Kiev attack on town near Donetskhttp://rt.com/news/172288-civilians-killed-ukraine-orphanage/At least 4 civilians have been killed in an overnight shelling of Maryinka, a town near Donetsk, in southeastern Ukraine, by pro-Kiev military forces, according to the RIA correspondent on the ground. |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 14, 2014, 05:16:42 PM |
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‘Father was lying on the porch with his arm blown off’ – eyewitness to Ukraine’s shellinghttp://rt.com/news/172548-relatives-killed-ukraine-shelling/The daughter of a man killed by an artillery shell fired by Kiev’s forces in a quiet Russian town just across the border from Ukraine is still in shock. In a night of horror, she also had to save her 11-year-old brother from the bombing.
Staying alive under fire: RT reporter joins Lugansk ambulance as city gets shelled (video) http://rt.com/news/172616-ambulance-injured-shelling-lugansk/Emergency services in Lugansk have been busier than ever with the city getting its daily shelling by Kiev’s troops. An RT reporter spent a day with an ambulance crew there to learn how the city’s new everyday reality is blood and destruction.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 16, 2014, 06:53:44 PM
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Fallen bandits from the Ukrainian punitive battalions. The text to the video is consolatory. "May you rest in peace. We didn't want your deaths. You could have still lived. Don't come to us with weapons in your hands, don't kill our fathers, mothers, children. Don't come to Donbass with war."
Two wounded Ukrainian border guard soldiers were delivered to Russian hospitals. http://www.forbes.ru/news/262871-dvukh-ranenykh-ukrainskikh-pogranichnikov-dostavili-v-rossiiskuyu-bolnitsu
Heavy fighting continues in three villages in Donetsk region: Amvrosievka, Marinovka and Izvarino: http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1322115?utm_medium=rss20
Jatsenjuk already tastes victory and asks for money. Now from oligarchs, whom according to him, should help rebuilding Donbass: http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2014/07/16/n_6314905.shtml
I see EU is still licking the American army boot... 16 wounded Ukrainians are stationed in Russian hospitals: http://ria.ru/society/20140716/1016262974.htmlso quite naturally... EU, headed by Merkel, will discuss new sanctions against Russia during the next summit: http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1322201?utm_medium=rss20This beggars belief and defies all reason. If it was a conflict in any African country, UN peacekeeping forces would have been there in a jiffy. While here, despite multiple requests by the freedom fighters to send in UN peacekeepers, West-Ukrainians continue to slaughter people in the East. |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 17, 2014, 01:34:41 PM |
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Serbian medias are reporting that Ukrainian army has been forced to retreat from several villages near Lugansk and Donetsk after suffering considerable losses in past two days.
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chaos is fun...…damental :)
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July 17, 2014, 04:09:49 PM |
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/fingerpointing-begins-ukraine-accuses-rebels-shooting-down-airplane-rebels-denyhat didn't take long for the Ukrainian government to know exactly what happened:
*UKRAINE REBELS SHOT DOWN MALAYSIAN PLANE, GERASHCHENKO SAYS; But
*DONETSK SEPARATISTS SAY NOT INVOLVED IN PLANE CRASH: INTERFAX
All 280 passengers and 15 crew were killed in the crash. The Malaysian Airlines jet was shot down by the BUK Missile System according to Interfax.
The BUK Missile system:
Curiously, Anton Gerashchenko, advisor to Ukraine ministry of internal affairs, had a prepared explanation for everything that happened half an hour ago, long before Ukraine even announced it would begin a probe into the flight crash:
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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July 18, 2014, 11:16:07 AM |
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Civilians continue to be murdered by Ukrainians in Lugansk: 20 civilians killed in Lugansk shelling - City Hallhttp://rt.com/news/173812-ukraine-lugansk-shelling-killed/ |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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