Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[niothor]

Apart from the idiots who try to make a program to get in the parliament nobody is bothered by ethnic problems here anymore.
You would be amazed how many hungarians leave in Bucharest or Constanta or Iasi and how many romanians have moved into the Covasna Harghita region - by their own free will.

LOL, you must be living in another world. I visited your place, my friend, & I spoke with many people. Hungarian vs. Romanian undercurrent is stronger in Romania than Russian vs. Ukrainian in Kiev.

I bet you did. I bet.
I also met yesterday 300 millions Russian who all said they want to be part of Japan. And 50 millions who want to join the Klingonian Empire.

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[gmat]

Apart from the idiots who try to make a program to get in the parliament nobody is bothered by ethnic problems here anymore.
You would be amazed how many hungarians leave in Bucharest or Constanta or Iasi and how many romanians have moved into the Covasna Harghita region - by their own free will.

LOL, you must be living in another world. I visited your place, my friend, & I spoke with many people. Hungarian vs. Romanian undercurrent is stronger in Romania than Russian vs. Ukrainian in Kiev.

I bet you did. I bet.
I also met yesterday 300 millions Russian who all said they want to be part of Japan. And 50 millions who want to join the Klingonian Empire.

 

to Polish with Kalinigrad oblasts come every day to shop a few thousand Russians, since it is so good, why is that bad?

[myshownow]

Ukrainian troops retreat from Donetsk toward Zaporohye


http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747351



NOTE: if the gossip of the Ukrainian stooge Lysenko is true, that there are Novorussian troops in Dzhankoj, I was struck by a possibility: what if they meet up with the other forces from Berdyansk and climb up to Zaporizhye and trap these retreating Ukrainian troops  by a pincer from 3 sides with the Dnieper River the 4th?

[myshownow]

to Polish with Kalinigrad oblasts come every day to shop a few thousand Russians, since it is so good, why is that bad?

What? Are you talking to me? LOL

Billionaires from Japan go to Singapore to shop, is it bad in Japan? Well, if the Japanese has the money, why shouldn't he shop in Singapore?


So you are Polish. Perhaps eat more apples and we'll talk.

[gmat]

to Polish with Kalinigrad oblasts come every day to shop a few thousand Russians, since it is so good, why is that bad?

What? Are you talking to me? LOL

Billionaires from Japan go to Singapore to shop, is it bad in Japan? Well, if the Japanese has the money, why shouldn't he shop in Singapore?


So you are Polish. Perhaps eat more apples and we'll talk.

tylko że na zakupy do polski przyjeżdżają nie Billionaires ale zwykli ludzie, proponujesz mi jabłka, ja ci proponuję seppuku

[myshownow]

tylko że na zakupy do polski przyjeżdżają nie Billionaires ale zwykli ludzie, proponujesz mi jabłka, ja ci proponuję seppuku

Have you eaten your apples?

[gmat]

tylko że na zakupy do polski przyjeżdżają nie Billionaires ale zwykli ludzie, proponujesz mi jabłka, ja ci proponuję seppuku

Have you eaten your apples?

still eat them, and I'm glad I do not eat Russian democracy

[myshownow]

Have you eaten your apples?

still eat them, and I'm glad I do not eat Russian democracy
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Good.


Btw, are you in the 7th or 4th grade?

Kindergarten?

[gmat]

Have you eaten your apples?

still eat them, and I'm glad I do not eat Russian democracy

Good.


Btw, are you in the 7th or 4th grade?

Kindergarten?
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common sense garden

[Paya]

If there where so many why didn't they come out?

Maybe they are afraid? Plenty of frustrated, trigger-happy Ukrainian paramilitary nutcases are roaming the streets of Mariupol these days you know.

Why was the city so peaceful before and now hundreds are fleeing the city?

Yeah some are fleeing, and how many are staying? And how many of those who fled would return if rebels take Mariupol? You don't know that.

The Russian backed rebels might go and conquer all Ukraine do you really think all the people there support new russia?
A lot of them just hate their current government and oppose it like a lot of Americans do. But would they change it to another one that might prove even worse?

Basically you leave them no choice. It's just a forced replacement in which they won't have a  word.

Exactly. So what should we do, hm? How about giving people chance to decide? Referendum was request from the very beginning (there was one, but it was held in everything but regular conditions tbh). However, Kiev has been refusing even to think about it, and this denial is one of the key causes for what today looks more and more like a wide-scale civil war. People of Donbass should have rights for self-determination. West gave that right to Albanians in Serbian province Kosovo, why Russians in Donbass cannot get the same freedom?

[niothor]

Fellas, first of all, I vote for peace all over the world, I've been around the world, I have relatives in US and in Belarussia, now I hope my further words go through your mind and not your heart, so this way you will get more sense from what I am trying to say.

I am glad you brought my hometown, Kaliningrad =) I was born there, but recently moved to Saint Petersburg =)

When you cross the Polish border there you will see a lot of Polish(NATO) tanks, and I mean literally a lot , looks like German 4th Panzer Army, no kidding.
The 1st question that I have is - why? why does Poland/Nato keep them there? they have been there since USSR collapsed. We certainly don't keep our tanks there, and nukes have been moved from Kaliningrad to Russia mainland
The 2nd question is why does NATO still exists and expanding? and why do they spread all their bases around the world? closer and closer to Russia. If we want to fight terrorists let's just send our troops together to Iraq/Afghan etc

1)  Poland knows how much trust they can put in russia's peace treaty.
2) http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140226/187917901/Russia-Seeks-Several-Military-Bases-Abroad--Defense-Minister.html

Shoigu said the list includes Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, the Seychelles, Singapore and several other countries.
“The talks are under way, and we are close to signing the relevant documents,” Shoigu told reporters in Moscow.
The minister added that the negotiations cover not only military bases but also visits to ports in such countries on favorable conditions as well as the opening of refueling sites for Russian strategic bombers on patrol.

Peace loving mother russia in action.

[Pagan]

Russian tradition - secret funerals of killed on war soldiers.

[niothor]

1)  Poland knows how much trust they can put in russia's peace treaty.
2) http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140226/187917901/Russia-Seeks-Several-Military-Bases-Abroad--Defense-Minister.html

1. You see, exactly my point,  there is no trust from both sides =) how do you think this can be fixed, curios
2. This dates back to Feb 2014, while NATO has been expanding for over 23 years, since USSR collapsed

1) it won't be fixed this century..i won't even bother with it.
2) Why is Russia expanding ? Because they are copying what NATO does. So if you want to blame one of them you'll have to blame the other too. There is no good guy and bad guy they are both the same idiots.

[Watoshi-Dimobuto]

Russia won't give Ukraine to Nato without a fight. Putin understand that once he free Ukraine it will probably join EU and Nato. And Nato bases and missiles will be on the Russia's border just a few hundred kilometers from Moscow.

Just imagine Mexico would join the BRICS and SCO. And China and Russia started building bases across the Mexican border. Before that happen, the time that Mexico changes tone and favors the BRICS and SCO America would likely started a Coup or Regime change and will conquer Mexico I guess even more visible than Russia did.

[Pagan]

Residents of Mariupol get ready to defend city from Russian troops





http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/residents-of-mariupol-get-ready-to-defend-city-from-russian-troops-362638.html

[Pagan]

ruSSian army is spreading propaganda leaflets in occupied Novoazovsk Ukraine (direct trans in Eng.)

[myshownow]

I've been thinking, it's obvious Ukraine is already imploding and the days of the junta are numbered. I wonder what's running in the minds of those delusional characters who thought they could get away with doing the heinous crimes that they did under the nose of Russia yet?

will Avakov commit suicide?
Will Lysenko hang himself?
Yatseniuk seems acting as if he'll join a mental hospital soon?
The oligarchs will surely experience first-hand the prison adventures of  Khodorovsky. A special gulag should be revived for these people

Turchinov should just have a heart attack rather than poisoning himself.

Actually, I want them all alive so that they could be lined up before a firing squad at the same time...

[Pagan]

  Kazakhstan may leave EEU if its interests are infringed: Nazarbayev

http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Kazakhstan-may-leave-EEU-if-its-interests-are-infringed-Nazarbayev-255722/

[chopstick]

Insightful article right on point.

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/30/ukraine-putting-politics-back-in-the-driving-seat/



The presence of Russian troops is alleged by NATO, and, of course, by the Kiev government. The Russian government denies these accusations. NATO estimates, for the moment, the number of Russian troops to be around a thousand. Note that, even if NATO is right on this point, this number of troops is completely inadequate to explain the military collapse suffered by Kiev’s forces in these past days. It is estimated that the number of soldiers (of the Ukrainian Army and of the National Guard) engaged in operations against the insurgents is some fifty thousand. Meanwhile, they face a force of around fifteen thousand. If the presence of those Russian troops were confirmed, they could only have performed a local and marginal role in the fighting that took place in these last days. Their presence cannot therefore explain the numerous defeats suffered by the Kiev forces. From this perspective, it is significant that the United States’ State Department talks of “an incursion” and not, as many journalists do, of “an invasion”. This means that the problem is political and not military. It is clear that, if it is proven, this presence of Russian troops is not acceptable, and that Russia must withdraw its troops as soon as possible. Russia must, if this is the case, return to a position of non-belligerency, and the countries of the European Union and the United States should guard against falling into the trap set by Kiev, which, evidently, is seeking to internationalise the conflict.

More at link.

[Nemo1024]

CyberBerkut broke into Poroshenko's files and disclosed a secret order to forcefully conscript daytime students on the universities. It seems that the order was to be enforced on the 1st of September with the start of the autumn session.
http://ria.ru/world/20140830/1022068809.html


Current number of Ukrainian refugees in Russia is officially 820.000 people. A lot of Ukrainian soldiers are as well fleeing from the suicidal orders to Russia.


A small reminder about Mariupol to people with really short memories: ON the 9th of May (arguably the most revered holiday) police were ordered to break up the peaceful Victory Day celebration. They refused to obey orders and themselves became a target from the arriving National Guard/Right Sector reinforcements, who shot at both the police and the civilians. That was the Mariupol massacre, and it was one of the triggers to the armed resistance.