Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain

[frcat]

What does this mean "Proof-of-Person"? Does this means that we can mineyour coins with laptop but just one laptop per person and we need to do a KYC?

There is no KYC in this project. No personal data is necessary to start "mining" with your laptop.
Of course if you disregard your IP as personal data. System is designed this way that typically, only one person can get verified on one particular machine at a specific time. Will it prove itself sealed against abusers, time will tell but so far it works quite alright.

So is this CPU or GPU mining? Satoshi did Bitcoin in the same way and only in several years people made Asics for mining. So here also would be able to mine with asics in some time... whats sense in this coin?

[poptok1]

So is this CPU or GPU mining? Satoshi did Bitcoin in the same way and only in several years people made Asics for mining. So here also would be able to mine with asics in some time... whats sense in this coin?

It is CPU but whatever it will stay this way, I don't know. It seems to me that system of IDENA is somewhat fixed. It has capacity limits all over the place, except general cap on supply, so I guess it is designed to maintain somewhat steady flow of newly mined coins to participants of the network. This is, in fact a main purpose of this project, to present a basic income idea. Is it a good idea? I don't think so but it may be a good time to at least try so we can be sure, on what the results of such experiment will be. You would have to ask this question to developer, I would also be interested in his answer.

[AndrewIdena]

So is this CPU or GPU mining? Satoshi did Bitcoin in the same way and only in several years people made Asics for mining. So here also would be able to mine with asics in some time... whats sense in this coin?

Satoshi did Bitcoin based on 'one CPU=one vote' principle. Idena introduces 'one person=one vote' rule. There is no GPU/Asic mining.
Idena blockchain is driven by a proof-of-person consensus. Every validated participant has an equal voting power in the network to produce blocks and validate transactions.


IDENA VIDEO EXPLAINERS NEEDED

Idena newcomers need video explainers on how to become a validated participant in Idena.

Requirements
- It should be a video 1.5–3 minutes long.
- The video should include the Idena validation ceremony.
- The video should have text or audial explanation in one of the following languages: English, German, French, Spanish, Chinese, Russian, Korean, Croatian, Portuguese, Turkish.
- The video should be published on YouTube.
- The links should be shared before 11:30 UTC December 18, 2019 via any public channel: Telegram, Twitter, Reddit, Bitcointalk, Discord.

Idena will award up to 10 prizes of 1000 DNA each. One video in each language category that has the largest number of likes on YouTube by 13:30 UTC December 18, 2019 will receive a prize.

The prizes will be given at the Idena team’s sole discretion for videos that the team finds worthwhile.

[dreamhouse]

proof of person, lmao, maybe a proof of butt will come out soon...

[lemonandfriesonetwo]

proof of person, lmao, maybe a proof of butt will come out soon...

You should give the wallet a try, it's quite ingenious.

[poptok1]

Hello everybody
Anyone else having trouble problems synchronizing the wallet?

Yes, I guess many people have troubles with sync today.
Admin is investigating the issue as we speak.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

I hope that by tomorrow when we have to validate this problem is solved.

Thanks!

Based on IDENA explorer it must be something small since 114 miners out of 170 are still mining.
I have no issue. Did you update your node to 0.14.3 ? It was not yet announced on telegram but it is visible in wallet. I'm using 0.14.2 and it is working perfectly.

[poptok1]

Based on IDENA explorer it must be something small

By the looks of it Idena suffered it's first hacker attack. Nothing extraordinary but presumably 8K coins were lost.
Make sure it wasn't your wallets that was robbed people, there's definitely some demand for DNA in the black-hat community.
Issues are not yet resolved completely as Linux users still report sync problems with the new node.
Fix and dev's reaction was impressively fast however few suffered undeserved mining penalty, including me...
All in all quite challenging day for Idena that was, with Friday the 13th on the horizon, things may only get more interesting but let's hope not. Go Idena!

[frcat]

So is this CPU or GPU mining? Satoshi did Bitcoin in the same way and only in several years people made Asics for mining. So here also would be able to mine with asics in some time... whats sense in this coin?

Satoshi did Bitcoin based on 'one CPU=one vote' principle. Idena introduces 'one person=one vote' rule. There is no GPU/Asic mining.
Idena blockchain is driven by a proof-of-person consensus. Every validated participant has an equal voting power in the network to produce blocks and validate transactions.

Well, but there are a lot of CPU mining coins in crypto space. Anf how do you be sure that only one prson will be able mine here? For example I can have 3 copmuters/laptops and mine with 3 PCs etc. 

[poptok1]

Well, but there are a lot of CPU mining coins in crypto space. Anf how do you be sure that only one prson will be able mine here? For example I can have 3 copmuters/laptops and mine with 3 PCs etc. 

You wont be able to verify 3 accounts at the same time. Maybe 2 but only you will be lucky and fast enough.
It is not only captcha solving but also making, within limited time, not to mention you will need couple invite codes.
In short, this system appears to be working quite well, no cheaters were spoted so far. Besides it's not actually CPU mining, it's proof of person, you get paid by being a human, not by having the fastest equipment. Give it a shot and see for yourself.

[coeurdelion]

So is this CPU or GPU mining? Satoshi did Bitcoin in the same way and only in several years people made Asics for mining. So here also would be able to mine with asics in some time... whats sense in this coin?

Satoshi did Bitcoin based on 'one CPU=one vote' principle. Idena introduces 'one person=one vote' rule. There is no GPU/Asic mining.
Idena blockchain is driven by a proof-of-person consensus. Every validated participant has an equal voting power in the network to produce blocks and validate transactions.

Well, but there are a lot of CPU mining coins in crypto space. Anf how do you be sure that only one prson will be able mine here? For example I can have 3 copmuters/laptops and mine with 3 PCs etc. 

It is not CPU, you can mine it with a raspberry Pi and you will get the same amount of coins as the guy with a 2k gaming computer. Maybe you should try it or spend 5 min reading the FAQ or whitepaper.

[notblox1]

Remember that next Idena validation is on December 11
Ask Invitation in official Telegram or Discord channel.
Good Luck!

[poptok1]

Ask Invitation in official Telegram or Discord channel.

But be careful though and make sure your are not clicking any suspicious links!
Following a hack report posted on telegram;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery CSRF type attack appears to be a real threat for people running the idena node (stand-alone and built-in nodes are affected). Avoid links on all official and unofficial channels of communication, that has something to do with Idena, while running your node. It is reported, that it also works if you use a VPS with port forwarding on your local machine. Stay safe.

[notblox1]

Next validation is in December 12
You can still join Idena Telegram group and ask for Invitation code.
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic

Update latest version from official website only!

Lates Validation results:
166 identities are validated
https://scan.idena.io/validation?epoch=25

[frcat]

Well, but there are a lot of CPU mining coins in crypto space. Anf how do you be sure that only one prson will be able mine here? For example I can have 3 copmuters/laptops and mine with 3 PCs etc. 

You wont be able to verify 3 accounts at the same time. Maybe 2 but only you will be lucky and fast enough.
It is not only captcha solving but also making, within limited time, not to mention you will need couple invite codes.
In short, this system appears to be working quite well, no cheaters were spoted so far. Besides it's not actually CPU mining, it's proof of person, you get paid by being a human, not by having the fastest equipment. Give it a shot and see for yourself.

What do you mean? Why in the same time? Why dont I can mine from different PCs for example? Whats getting invite code? Are this codes giving some % of rewards?

[poptok1]

What do you mean? Why in the same time? Why dont I can mine from different PCs for example? Whats getting invite code? Are this codes giving some % of rewards?

Codes are a form of referral link, your referent is getting some reward for your successful verification in the network, it's one time reward. You can't mine on multiple machines, or at least it would be extremely difficult to register yourself as a real person on more than one machine, because of how the network is protected. Once per several days, at the exact hour, captcha puzzles appear for you to solve within specific time frame. It would be very hard to complete those puzzles on more than 2 clients. Bad answers are also penalized, so you are at risk of loosing verification rewards and even an entire wallet.     

[Tytanowy Janusz]

Well after 8/8 successful validations i have some insights that would be worth discussing.
1- add an option that will allow cropping graphics from google - sometimes only part photo is useful in flip. It will make creating quality flips much easier.
2- 2 min is sometimes not enough. In fact after 8 validations I've never had 2 min. 1 min 4* sec that's my time since validation loads for 10-20 seconds. I think that 3 min will still not be enough to validate more than 1 account constantly (maybe once per 5 validations having 10 easy flips and this will not increase amount of validated accounts (3 successful validation before dead from 2 wrong)).
3- Big issue in my opinion are wasted invitations. I've sent 5 of them and only 1 succeed. I always send them before short interview (Do you have your node synchronized. Will you take part in validation. Do you know when it is. etc.). How about my invited user miss validation the invitation will come back so I could use it to invite 2 users for next epoch?

[slavo]

fun coin, too much inflation, too much premine glhf

[botija]

So this basically requires a KYC in order to mine?

[aleix]

So this basically requires a KYC in order to mine?

No, no KYC. Yo need to prove that you are human by doing something an AI can't do. That's all.

That's the beauty of it.


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