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October 19, 2022, 07:26:49 AM
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Mane may not be recognised in the way he should,  but the truth is that we the fans knows who Mane is, how he has contributed to every team he has been. We all know Mane talent is raw and good. Even if what he was award is not the best for him. I still congratulate him for the award, it is not easy.

I was happy when he was leaving Liverpool but not happy with the club he went to. Liverpool underated Mane and were the causes of his problem of not been put forward as a world star, the attention was always on Mo Salah even when it was clear Mane was the better of the duo even though Mo Salah was the goal scorer but before there is a goal scorer, it means the players behind him are putting on some impressive display to create such chances for him to score.

Mane would had opted to go to La Liga, that club he went to isn't taken as a serious club. I don't even think there has been a Ballon d'or winners in that club history or probably Mane would had stay in premier league to him any of the big six win the premier league and the champions league then there wouldn't be anyone against clowning him the best player in the world as his influence would be felt in any premier league top side he plays in.

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October 19, 2022, 08:40:18 PM
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So I just saw the Ballon d'or get awarded to Karim Benzema and the best they can do is give the Socrates Award to Sadio Mane upon all he achieved last year. I'm not disrespecting Benzema but Mane is worth than some charity award. When will they give African players their credit. Mane last season won  the Africa biggest tournament that he contributed massively to his country lifting the AFCON cup also as his side defeated Chelsea twice in the cup competition they participated in and won two cups trophies also his side made it to the final of the champions league and completed for the title of the premier league tournament until the last day that they almost won it if not for Manchester city brilliance.

I can also remembered the season Mo Salah played all the football he can and yet he was rubbed of the same title, when will African players be rewarded with award they deserved. Why create some useless award just to justify what is been done to African players. African isn't some charity projects and we deserve better than how we're been treated. Anyways congratulations the Benzene.

Yeah African player's are most at times robbed off what they're worth and should have claimed, but in the terms of the Ballon d'or, I still do not think Sadio Mane should be compared with Karim Benzema for the award, Sadio won the African Cup of Nations yes but not too close to winning the Champions League with Liverpool. Benzema deserves it honestly.

What got me vexed was last year when UEFA best goal keeper should have been awarded to Edouard Mendy of Chelsea but they pushed it to the Italian Donnarumma. Watching that got me real pissed.
Some award's also given wasn't worth it, Camavinga won almost three trophies but didn't get to win that award, also Manchester City as UEFA Champions League club of the year was a fat lie. That was way biased.

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October 19, 2022, 09:12:41 PM
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So I just saw the Ballon d'or get awarded to Karim Benzema and the best they can do is give the Socrates Award to Sadio Mane upon all he achieved last year. I'm not disrespecting Benzema but Mane is worth than some charity award. When will they give African players their credit. Mane last season won  the Africa biggest tournament that he contributed massively to his country lifting the AFCON cup also as his side defeated Chelsea twice in the cup competition they participated in and won two cups trophies also his side made it to the final of the champions league and completed for the title of the premier league tournament until the last day that they almost won it if not for Manchester city brilliance.

I can also remembered the season Mo Salah played all the football he can and yet he was rubbed of the same title, when will African players be rewarded with award they deserved. Why create some useless award just to justify what is been done to African players. African isn't some charity projects and we deserve better than how we're been treated. Anyways congratulations the Benzene.
I can think of many situations African players have been sidelined in the past but this year Karim Benzema deserves to be awarded the Ballon D'or. His performance was outstanding last season his contribution when it cones to team and individual efforts was second to none and you say Salah was also robbed, the season you say Salah was robbed I think Lewandowski was robbed of the award instead but it was given to Lionel Messi who didn't deserve it. Mane and Salah have being brilliant also and deserved to be nominated but lets face fact that Lewandowski and Benzema did better in these years.
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October 20, 2022, 05:04:51 AM
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Mane and Salah have being brilliant also and deserved to be nominated but lets face fact that Lewandowski and Benzema did better in these years.

What did Benzema win? The league and champions league, wait so who were we expecting to win their league when Barcelona was so poor last season? Seems you're forgetting Sadio Mane won The AFCON , EFL Cup, FA Cup and came second in the champions league & premier league also he was outstanding in all this competition. We have to start voicing out about the fact that only the Spanish side get to produce the best player of the season always meanwhile we aren't getting the best football from that league.

It's no debate that the premier league is the Best in the world, Manchester city was just crowned the best team in the world and it's due to their play in the premier league yet we don't get personal reward recognition. There isn't anything that African players will do that'll make them get their hands on that award, they'll always find a way to make their achievement look small and those of their counter part look more superior so they get a better chance at winning.

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October 20, 2022, 07:43:40 AM
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There isn't anything that African players will do that'll make them get their hands on that award, they'll always find a way to make their achievement look small and those of their counter part look more superior so they get a better chance at winning.
I see the point in what you are saying. sadio mane was remarkable last season both for club and country and although benzema was good, and the argument can be that he also deserve the award,  the contention is that if the likes of Benzema didn't play well as much as Sadio Mane, another non African would have been selected for the award. And I also do not just understand why the bulk of ballon d'or winners always come from Spanish league, maybe a reason why Lewandoski decided to move to Spain.

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October 20, 2022, 07:54:44 AM
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There isn't anything that African players will do that'll make them get their hands on that award, they'll always find a way to make their achievement look small and those of their counter part look more superior so they get a better chance at winning.
I see the point in what you are saying. sadio mane was remarkable last season both for club and country and although benzema was good, and the argument can be that he also deserve the award,  the contention is that if the likes of Benzema didn't play well as much as Sadio Mane, another non African would have been selected for the award. And I also do not just understand why the bulk of ballon d'or winners always come from Spanish league, maybe a reason why Lewandoski decided to move to Spain.

Yeah, that's a shorter route to see his dreams of winning the Ballon d'or coming to reality and yes, he deserves that be on that Ballon d'or award list but was clearly robbed after they french media gave the award to Lionel Messi.
As per Sadio ? He did all he could do to have a great season, but first who are the sponsors of the Ballon d'or ? French media mmh ? They are clearly Europeans and will get biased once in a while. I don't put all of that to heart again since Wesley Sniedjer was also robbed during the year 2010 after he won the Champions League and was second runner up to Spain who won the FIFA World Cup at South Africa.

Ballon d'or are given as a result of team contributions and also goals score in a particular season ans last season, if you do due diligence and go check the statistics, Karim Benzema deserves it, it was his turn to win regardless of the fact that Africans are always been robbed.

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October 20, 2022, 07:54:02 PM
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Sadio Mane is a very brilliant footballer. He is string and intelligent in football. He is an idol of Africa, while looking at him, You'll see the typical Africa man in him. Very loving and a born philanthropist. You will have no reason not to love that him, especially if you are an African.
He was able to reach second position even when he was not the main man in Liverpool.

But Tbh, He was not robbed in the Ballon d'or.
Benzema was a bit ahead in individual performance.
If you can remember with me, Real Madrid was not a top contender for the Champions League. But Benzema magical arts brought Real Madrid back into the competition even when they were almost eliminated by PSG. He did the same wonders against Chelsea and against Manchester City. Only that three consecutive matches in the champions league is already due to give him the award. He was the Liga winner and top scorer and also the Champions League winner.

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Yeah African player's are most at times robbed off what they're worth and should have claimed, but in the terms of the Ballon d'or, I still do not think Sadio Mane should be compared with Karim Benzema for the award, Sadio won the African Cup of Nations yes but not too close to winning the Champions League with Liverpool. Benzema deserves it honestly.

The true winner of the Ballon d'or deserved it. This is one of the seasons in which, in contrast to past years, I believe FIFA was not prejudiced in choosing the award winner. Sadio Mane truly excelled last season, although Karim Benzema was a step or two ahead of him. He deserves the second place and the honor conferred on him.

Senegal had an amazing performance during the qualifying rounds of the World Cup, all eyes are on Sadio Mane to lead Senegal far in this year's World Cup. Senegal is the strongest African team competing in the World Cup, and Senegal represents all of Africa's hopes. Sadio Mane won't let down the entire African continent, which has high hopes for him in this World Cup.

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What got me vexed was last year when UEFA best goal keeper should have been awarded to Edouard Mendy of Chelsea but they pushed it to the Italian Donnarumma. Watching that got me real pissed.
Some award's also given wasn't worth it, Camavinga won almost three trophies but didn't get to win that award, also Manchester City as UEFA Champions League club of the year was a fat lie. That was way biased.

These are standard FIFA practices; they have always been this way, so they no longer come as a surprise. Imagine Gavi of Barcelona receiving the KOPA award. He doesn't deserve it, in my opinion, as there are other young players that performed better than him last season, such as Bellingham of Dortmund. But we are powerless to alter how the system functions in this way.

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October 20, 2022, 09:27:17 PM
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Mane and Salah have being brilliant also and deserved to be nominated but lets face fact that Lewandowski and Benzema did better in these years.

What did Benzema win? The league and champions league, wait so who were we expecting to win their league when Barcelona was so poor last season? Seems you're forgetting Sadio Mane won The AFCON , EFL Cup, FA Cup and came second in the champions league & premier league also he was outstanding in all this competition. We have to start voicing out about the fact that only the Spanish side get to produce the best player of the season always meanwhile we aren't getting the best football from that league.

It's no debate that the premier league is the Best in the world, Manchester city was just crowned the best team in the world and it's due to their play in the premier league yet we don't get personal reward recognition. There isn't anything that African players will do that'll make them get their hands on that award, they'll always find a way to make their achievement look small and those of their counter part look more superior so they get a better chance at winning.
Truely Sadio Mane had quite an impressive season or rather impressive year in his career but let face fact here, you cannot compare AFCON, EFL cup and the FA cup to winning the Laliga, Champions league, Super cup. I'm not saying Sadio Mane didn't do very well I'm just saying in terms of comparison Benzema achieved more and deserved to win the Ballon D'or trophy.
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The contention is that if the likes of Benzema didn't play well as much as Sadio Mane, another non African would have been selected for the award. And I also do not just understand why the bulk of ballon d'or winners always come from Spanish league, maybe a reason why Lewandoski decided to move to Spain.

Now that's exactly my point, one way or the other, They must give the award to the la Liga side. Even seasons when the champions league winners were the English sides. You can't tell me the season Chelsea won the title that there wasn't someone that deserve it in the Chelsea squad even after Kante brilliance and Jorginho's numerous cup victories but we aren't talking about the premier league now, my concern is the Africa players putting us on the map aren't been recognize even when they were the best for the season. Truely assuming Benzema wasn't as good as he was last season, I bet you all the award would had been given to someone else and not Sadio Mane.

Truely Sadio Mane had quite an impressive season or rather impressive year in his career but let face fact here, you cannot compare AFCON, EFL cup and the FA cup to winning the Laliga, Champions league, Super cup. I'm not saying Sadio Mane didn't do very well I'm just saying in terms of comparison Benzema achieved more and deserved to win the Ballon D'or trophy.

Really Super cup? How many matches to win that one unlike the others I mentioned that you have to play multiple games and qualify for the group stages up to the finals and he Mane was outstanding in all those game. Maybe one or two bad games but still when his club or country side needed him he delivered.

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Sadio Mane is a very brilliant footballer. He is string and intelligent in football. He is an idol of Africa, while looking at him, You'll see the typical Africa man in him. Very loving and a born philanthropist. You will have no reason not to love that him, especially if you are an African.
He was able to reach second position even when he was not the main man in Liverpool.

But Tbh, He was not robbed in the Ballon d'or.
Benzema was a bit ahead in individual performance.
If you can remember with me, Real Madrid was not a top contender for the Champions League. But Benzema magical arts brought Real Madrid back into the competition even when they were almost eliminated by PSG. He did the same wonders against Chelsea and against Manchester City. Only that three consecutive matches in the champions league is already due to give him the award. He was the Liga winner and top scorer and also the Champions League winner.


Thank You for further clarity, that was team work and also some level of individual performance from the Ballon d'or award winner Karim Benzema, no shades and arguments, he really deserves that award. I would also love to see Robert Lewandoski winning the Ballon d'or soon he has been robbed two ways ago, I hope he gets one to be the first polish player to ever win the Ballon d'or. ( Just as how, Karim Benzema would have been the first Arabian to win ).

Knowing how they treat Africans, expect some things like this and you won't get angry anymore. We should start facing ours doing for ourselves to avoid all of this biased comparisons and award's. I'd further support Sadio Mane and Senegalese National team in the Fifa World Cup which kicks off 12 November.

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Thank You for further clarity, that was team work and also some level of individual performance from the Ballon d'or award winner Karim Benzema, no shades and arguments, he really deserves that award. I would also love to see Robert Lewandoski winning the Ballon d'or soon he has been robbed two ways ago, I hope he gets one to be the first polish player to ever win the Ballon d'or. ( Just as how, Karim Benzema would have been the first Arabian to win ).

Knowing how they treat Africans, expect some things like this and you won't get angry anymore. We should start facing ours doing for ourselves to avoid all of this biased comparisons and award's. I'd further support Sadio Mane and Senegalese National team in the Fifa World Cup which kicks off 12 November.

We are all aware of the racial discrimination against Africans when it comes to not only Ballon d'Or but in other awards. It would be wrong to believe that from 1995 when George Weah of Liberia won the FIFA World Best Player award to date no other African has merited the award. Many African players have been qualified to win this award but they have been denied because they are Africans. It might be possible that even African players and coaches might not vote for African players for the awards. Sadio Mané had a very great season last year but everybody knows that Karim Benzema deserves the award. He was exceptionally good last season.

Robert Lewandowski for me deserved to win it last year but somehow Lionel Messi miraculously clinched the award he is doing well this season and might clinch it. But I think the winner this year would be largely determined by the world cup performance of players.  

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I was happy when he was leaving Liverpool but not happy with the club he went to. Liverpool underated Mane and were the causes of his problem of not been put forward as a world star, the attention was always on Mo Salah even when it was clear Mane was the better of the duo even though Mo Salah was the goal scorer but before there is a goal scorer, it means the players behind him are putting on some impressive display to create such chances for him to score.

Mane would had opted to go to La Liga, that club he went to isn't taken as a serious club. I don't even think there has been a Ballon d'or winners in that club history or probably Mane would had stay in premier league to him any of the big six win the premier league and the champions league then there wouldn't be anyone against clowning him the best player in the world as his influence would be felt in any premier league top side he plays in.
Even though that Benzema is considered a French guy but he has Algerian = African origins. When he won Ballon d'Or, it is France that won it but I assume if he lost it, it would be the Algerian or Real Madrid player wasn't successful to grab it Roll Eyes
Anyway, Benzema deserved it. Lewandowski deserve it. Mane and Salah deserve it. They cannot split it between them, but guess which player was successful to win many trophies past season and was actively helping to achieve that? Benzema..
If Liverpool won EPL and CL, it will be Salah or Mane for sure. If Bayern won CL, Lewandowski will be the one. AFAIK, that's the reason that push everyone to support Benzema rather than the others.

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Mane may not be recognised in the way he should,  but the truth is that we the fans knows who Mane is, how he has contributed to every team he has been. We all know Mane talent is raw and good. Even if what he was award is not the best for him. I still congratulate him for the award, it is not easy.

I was happy when he was leaving Liverpool but not happy with the club he went to. Liverpool underated Mane and were the causes of his problem of not been put forward as a world star, the attention was always on Mo Salah even when it was clear Mane was the better of the duo even though Mo Salah was the goal scorer but before there is a goal scorer, it means the players behind him are putting on some impressive display to create such chances for him to score.

Mane would had opted to go to La Liga, that club he went to isn't taken as a serious club. I don't even think there has been a Ballon d'or winners in that club history or probably Mane would had stay in premier league to him any of the big six win the premier league and the champions league then there wouldn't be anyone against clowning him the best player in the world as his influence would be felt in any premier league top side he plays in.
Liverpool lost a rare gem, his type will never be seen in the epl again imo. I was also happy for Mane when he left Liverpool because of the poor treatments he was getting from the club. He did most of the job and goal contributions and other were taking all the credit and get the huge wages. Bayern Munich was good choice for Mane, Bayern Munich are a good side with great history so in my opinion it was a good move too.
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October 22, 2022, 03:39:55 PM
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Women U17 World Cup

Nigerian Super Falcons won USA. Nigeria 1-1 USA. Nigeria now has qualified for the Semi final of the world cup that is going on. But they still played 5:5 penalties which made Nigeria to win the game. In the penalties Nigeria scored 4 while USA scored 3.
Nigerian are into the semi-finals of the U17 Women's World Cup. I am impressed with the girls on both sides. They fought real hard. Despite moving on to the next stage, i just want to point out that the first penalty against the US should not have been a penalty. It was outside the box. There should be no penalty for a toe inside the box. Moreover, the Nigerian player was unable to control the ball after the ball was already tipped. Anyways congratulations to them. Looking forward to their next games against Colombia.

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October 22, 2022, 08:19:45 PM
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Women U17 World Cup

Nigerian Super Falcons won USA. Nigeria 1-1 USA. Nigeria now has qualified for the Semi final of the world cup that is going on. But they still played 5:5 penalties which made Nigeria to win the game. In the penalties Nigeria scored 4 while USA scored 3.
Nigerian are into the semi-finals of the U17 Women's World Cup. I am impressed with the girls on both sides. They fought real hard. Despite moving on to the next stage, i just want to point out that the first penalty against the US should not have been a penalty. It was outside the box. There should be no penalty for a toe inside the box. Moreover, the Nigerian player was unable to control the ball after the ball was already tipped. Anyways congratulations to them. Looking forward to their next games against Colombia.
A well deserved triumph onto the next stage indeed. No matter the case of the penalty awarded, what mattered,, in the end, is the success of the qualification onto the next round, with hopes held high to seeing them win against Colombia. The nation needs such wins in a time as these when flood is almost crippling balling activities. Our women soccer players have proven to be more consistent than the males in recent tournaments, I wonder if the men are abandoning the winning ways for money ways only.

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October 24, 2022, 11:14:43 PM
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Women U17 World Cup
Nigerian Super Flamingos won USA. Nigeria 1-1 USA. Nigeria now has qualified for the Semi final of the world cup that is going on. But they still played 5:5 penalties which made Nigeria to win the game. In the penalties Nigeria scored 4 while USA scored 3.

Congratulations to our young ladies, when it comes to women football, I'm never in doubt of our ladies always delivering for the country but our male footballers are just full of themselves that they hardly put in enough effort to play for the country. They're just for their clubs as they're the ones feeding them meanwhile our ladies play with all their energy and smile, yet they don't have as much funding as the male team. I saw how the Flamingoes were passionate about winning the game and just hope they can make it to the finals and bring home the medals.

I'm thinking Nigeria government and private sectors in the country should invest more in the women team, as in coming years, the woman football will be as big as their male counterparts and If Nigeria can be dominating that worldwide then it'll be phenomenon. We have to start winning world cups with the senior women team and not just dominating WAFCON.

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October 24, 2022, 11:29:27 PM
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African countries are not going to find it easy to qualify from the group stage. Alot of them will result to prayers instead of practising harder to beat their opponents on the pitch. Am sure Nigeria would have been in Group C if that we qualified. There is something with Nigeria and Argentina to be in the same group at world stage in football. For the group, Morocco, Tunisia and Ghana all seem like they will not make it to the knockout stage. They are in the group of death.



Source: https://en.as.com/en/2022/04/01/soccer/1648815114_145812.amp.html
it looks like most punters and football fans around the world believe Morocco, Tunisia and Ghana are the weaklings of the group, but they have no idea whats coming! Football is not won based on statistics and alike, you have to prove yourself on the pitch and by the way, all these teams labelled as underdogs have players playing in the top leagues of football around the world which should give you an idea of the calibre of players their opponents will be facing!

Women U17 World Cup

Nigerian Super Flamingos won USA. Nigeria 1-1 USA. Nigeria now has qualified for the Semi final of the world cup that is going on. But they still played 5:5 penalties which made Nigeria to win the game. In the penalties Nigeria scored 4 while USA scored 3.


Intresting, talking of women football how many worldcups are been played this year Roll Eyes

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October 25, 2022, 05:52:44 AM
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it looks like most punters and football fans around the world believe Morocco, Tunisia and Ghana are the weaklings of the group, but they have no idea whats coming! Football is not won based on statistics and alike, you have to prove yourself on the pitch and by the way, all these teams labelled as underdogs have players playing in the top leagues of football around the world which should give you an idea of the calibre of players their opponents will be facing!

But there's no lie there, also when you consider the groups this nations are playing in and how poor African teams has been in the world cup stage, you just have to consider them the weakest. Teams like Senegal has more international players than those you mentioned and that reflected in their dominance in the domestic competition as the AFCON that they just won. Ghana doesn't even deserve to be playing in the competition and that's not because they defeated my country to get their but they don't look prepared. Did you watch their game against Brazil, Brazil disgrace them and even if it was just a friendly, it was still embarrassing.

Ghana have to face Uruguay and Portugal, can you confidently tell us if they can win any of those game or even get a draw. They also have to face South Korea which you might think they got a chance at winning but South Korea also know their best chance of getting a qualification from the group is winning Ghana and they can do that with players like Son Heung-min then play for a draws in other games or somehow win Uruguay.

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