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[Slow death]

honestly I don't expect anything big from the African teams in this world. I'll cheer for Brazil or Argentina or even some other team in Europe

Firstly you have to understand that good facility for training, has a lot to contribute to players fitness. We don't have that in most African countries. Egypt with one of the best facilities and highest paid African League contributed to the success they have in the African tournaments. The European hs the privilege of paying with same team mates tgey play with as such their chemistry is still intact when playing international football bit you can't say same about African so obviously they'll be struggling whwn it come sro international football.

Also, irrespective of how good you're, when you're paired with a weaker team, your performance tend to reduces. The Westerners already have good players all round and playing in top Westerner leagues but when it come to African, the top players are been paired with local players which obviously kills the chemistry in the team. Until Africa has local league upto to the standard of the werstener league, we wouldn't be getting much from them in international football.

The biggest problem of soccer in Africa is in the corruption that the leaders of the country do. I will give a concrete example:

In Africa, the political party that is in power controls everything, they choose the presidents of the federations, they choose the presidents of the clubs and they manipulate the results of the games to make politics and if any club tries to put a president who is not from the party politician who governs the country they cut sponsorship, because 90% of clubs in africa are sponsored by state companies

as long as politics and corruption are in soccer, then unfortunately in africa we will never have evolution in soccer

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[CryptoPanda]

Nigeria lose again to an international friendly game against Mexico under a new a coach jose Peseiro , this is their first game under this new coach. I wouldn't want to use their first game to rate the new coach if he is capable of building the team strong again, other game coming will if the new coach is work or not.

As expected, the super eagles of Nigeria were beaten by Mexico, it would have been a surprise if the result went the other way round. Though it was a friendly game, the match was everything but boring, the Nigeria team couldn't break the jinx of mostly losing to South America sides. I think there are a lot of positives the technical or coaching department of the super eagles could take from that game and improve on before their next friendly against Ecuador.

[rugrats]

Nigeria lose again to an international friendly game against Mexico under a new a coach jose Peseiro , this is their first game under this new coach. I wouldn't want to use their first game to rate the new coach if he is capable of building the team strong again, other game coming will if the new coach is work or not.

As expected, the super eagles of Nigeria were beaten by Mexico, it would have been a surprise if the result went the other way round. Though it was a friendly game, the match was everything but boring, the Nigeria team couldn't break the jinx of mostly losing to South America sides. I think there are a lot of positives the technical or coaching department of the super eagles could take from that game and improve on before their next friendly against Ecuador.

Actually, this should have been a clean shit for Mexico because the goalkeeper made a bad mistake. Honestly, Mexico is the better team in this match-up. They played really well and created a lot more convincing chances compared to Nigeria. I really think that Nigeria was lucky to even get that one goal because that should not have ended up at the back of the net. The goalkeeper is going to get some stick for that. Mexico was playing really well and even if the own goal did not happen I think Mexico still would have won the match.

[coco23]

Nigeria lose again to an international friendly game against Mexico under a new a coach jose Peseiro , this is their first game under this new coach. I wouldn't want to use their first game to rate the new coach if he is capable of building the team strong again, other game coming will if the new coach is work or not.

This looks like it was an interesting game! I was just checking how those teams compare and to my surprise Mexico is on FIFA rank 9! Nigeria is 34th and seeming like a clear outsider in this match up, so their loss shouldn't come as a big surprise.
It will be interesting to see if Mexico can live up to the expectations of their current FIFA rank in the world cup. They definitely should be able to survive their group (Argentina, Poland, Saudi-Arabia) to play a potential round of 16 game against France.

The best ranked African team is Senegal at rank 20. Based on the ranks it already would be a good result if 1 African team can survive the group stage in the world cup.

[Alisha-k]

I expect Nigeria to win their match and possibly give playing time to some of the locally based players in the squad.
The match of the round for me is Ghana - South Africa. Definitely not as polarizing as when the South Africans take on Nigeria, but there's still plenty of talent on display and a lot at stake, both teams would be expected to lead the group, the question is, who tops?

Nigeria have a problem of winning and It's even obvious with the way they play. They could have given Ghana a run for their money but it looked like they were just entering tournament for the first time and they needed training.
 Sacking rohr was not the solution if you ask me. Ghana played Nigeria like they were newbies and I was so disappointed.g

[swogerino]

Nigeria lose again to an international friendly game against Mexico under a new a coach jose Peseiro , this is their first game under this new coach. I wouldn't want to use their first game to rate the new coach if he is capable of building the team strong again, other game coming will if the new coach is work or not.

The friendlies are best used to gauge the efficiency of the players,the coach does not care much if he loses let's say a game 2-0 but in that game he gets valuable information from different players and their form.He starts based on this information on how to build an even more efficient team and tries different tactics during the training sessions the team will have.This helps a lot prepare the team at the best the coach can and be ready for International important competitions.

[D-law]

Ghana won three goals to nothing against Madagascar.
Mozambique will go down with Rwanda by 17:00 today
Tunisia will lock horns with Equatotial Guinea by 20:00 tonight.....these are strictly Afcon qualifies for the next African Cup of Nations.
And Ecuador will play a friendly game with Nigeria by 1:30 AM tomorrow morning.

[Davidvictorson]

Ghana won three goals to nothing against Madagascar

It was a decent performance from the black stars. However, I would suggest they work more on the set pieces. One of the things I observed during the game was that they lacked teamwork in front of goal. It was almost as if every player wanted to be the one to scored. There's still room for improvement for the strikers.

[D-law]

Isn't it shameful that Nigeria lost another friendly?
They are not just preparing good for the new Afcon qualifies.
They lost from the first half to last half.
The goal was scored at the third minute of the game.

[Zlantann]

if in an ordinary friendlies like this they can't make something really worth it then what will be the hope for the subsequent future matches that will be contending enough, i think they needed a coach who have good experience on the team performances and whose record is worth recommendation,

While losing shouldn't have an excuse, but have you taken a look at the team that played before placing judgement on the coach. His team choice isn't obviously our starting 11 and I'm pretty sure that was due to the players not been available either resting or taking some vacation from the juat concluded seasons. We didn't have our usual midfielders playing and a key players as Ndidi wasn't present and other vital players.

Now lets look at the formation 4,2,2,2. That isn't our best formation and probably the coach is just using this friendly to test his tactics and others players to identify the best new players to input into the team to strengthen it. The match ended 2:1 and the second Mexico goals was an own goal. Lets give the coach time and not been quick to judge.

Nigerians are naturally impatient. We love instant or immediate result. I don't blame them because our passion for football is boundless. But we must understand that a team takes alot of time, mistakes and sacrifice to build. There is nothing wrong in loosing a friendly match, what matters is what lessons did the players and technical crew learn from the game. It is better we loose all our friendly matches learning lessons that would help us win competitions and trophies. Nigerians must be patient and give the technical crew more time.

[Minecache]

While losing shouldn't have an excuse, but have you taken a look at the team that played before placing judgement on the coach. His team choice isn't obviously our starting 11 and I'm pretty sure that was due to the players not been available either resting or taking some vacation from the juat concluded seasons. We didn't have our usual midfielders playing and a key players as Ndidi wasn't present and other vital players.
Now lets look at the formation 4,2,2,2. That isn't our best formation and probably the coach is just using this friendly to test his tactics and others players to identify the best new players to input into the team to strengthen it. The match ended 2:1 and the second Mexico goals was an own goal. Lets give the coach time and not been quick to judge.

Nigerians are naturally impatient. We love instant or immediate result. I don't blame them because our passion for football is boundless. But we must understand that a team takes alot of time, mistakes and sacrifice to build. There is nothing wrong in loosing a friendly match, what matters is what lessons did the players and technical crew learn from the game. It is better we loose all our friendly matches learning lessons that would help us win competitions and trophies. Nigerians must be patient and give the technical crew more time.

They are just hungry for wins and there are a lot of people who do not like to lose. To be honest it obviously sucks to lose. But losing is the only way to learn quickly. I think they should stop thinking about what they are going to lose again and again and start thinking about what they have done wrong and work on that. I absolutely agree that they really have to be patient if they want to achieve better things. It is easy to play the blank game but it is hard to think about the mistakes.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Isn't it shameful that Nigeria lost another friendly?
They are not just preparing good for the new Afcon qualifies.
They lost from the first half to last half.
The goal was scored at the third minute of the game.

I believe after this second defeat, the new coach will consider returning to our previous starters instead of testing with this new players he's using. I wasn't chanced to watch the match but here's something I found which means something urgent has to be done even though this are just friendly.

The Super Eagles played and lost their second game under Jose Peseiro on Friday against Ecuador, 1-0, at the Red Bull Arena in New Jersey, USA.

The lineup was the same as the one that started in the loss to Mexico but for the inclusion of Sani Faisal who came on for the injured Innocent Bonke.

While it's too early to rate the coach impact on the team still we don't have to underate how destructive this loses can be. What surprises me is why isn't he using our regulars. I don't get why the super eagle couldn't equalized with over 87th minutes of regular playing time and some extra. This must have been one boring match to watch.

[Mr.right85]

The super eagles loose again to Ecuador with a 1-0 score line,, the game has no importance given the fact that's it's a friendly game,, but momentum is supposed to be built given that it's a new head coach ,,but I believe the coach has all the time at his disposal to bring the team back to winning ways before the fans begins to grow frustration,,  we need to build momentum against our upcoming qualifying matches be it afcon or next world cup,,  the super eagles just needs consistency ,, so we can build a team to compete with the likes of Senegal in Africa and other European and South American football power house,, and maybe move up ton the FIFA rankings,, all departments of the teams needs improvement.the NFF needs to give it's full backing to the coaching staffs physically, materially and financially in other to build a good a d strong team..

[Zlantann]

While it's too early to rate the coach impact on the team still we don't have to underate how destructive this loses can be. What surprises me is why isn't he using our regulars. I don't get why the super eagle couldn't equalized with over 87th minutes of regular playing time and some extra. This must have been one boring match to watch.

Two losses in a row is not good for the reputation and international ranking of Nigeria. What makes this losses more painful is that we are not losing to a world-class or high ranking sides. The coach would have learnt some few lessons from this two matches. Nigerians now want to see to lessons or technical experience applied in our next match. At least we expect to see some players he had identified in these two friendlies joining our first team players to give the team the needed boast. Nigerian football supporters have suffered many heartbreaks these past months and the only cure for it is goals and wins.   

[D-law]

While it's too early to rate the coach impact on the team still we don't have to underate how destructive this loses can be. What surprises me is why isn't he using our regulars. I don't get why the super eagle couldn't equalized with over 87th minutes of regular playing time and some extra. This must have been one boring match to watch.
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Like you've said,  @ CryptoprreneurBrainboss, it's to early to start talking about the coach potential.
But at least a draw would have been much appreciated. I really want to see them do excellently well.
These results are reasons I don't want to watch them play.

[Masplanc]

While it's too early to rate the coach impact on the team still we don't have to underate how destructive this loses can be. What surprises me is why isn't he using our regulars. I don't get why the super eagle couldn't equalized with over 87th minutes of regular playing time and some extra. This must have been one boring match to watch.

Two losses in a row is not good for the reputation and international ranking of Nigeria. What makes this losses more painful is that we are not losing to a world-class or high ranking sides. The coach would have learnt some few lessons from this two matches. Nigerians now want to see to lessons or technical experience applied in our next match. At least we expect to see some players he had identified in these two friendlies joining our first team players to give the team the needed boast. Nigerian football supporters have suffered many heartbreaks these past months and the only cure for it is goals and wins.   

I wouldn't use this two losses to judge the Nigerian team if they will still remain like this . The Super Eagles haven't be consistent for a longtime and now they have a new coach the performance of the players can't just change simultaneously,  it will change gradually let's give them sometime to see if the new coach can do something great.

[cygan]

while it remains uncertain which club Sadio Mané will play for in the future, the winger scored a hattrick for his homeland in their opening africa cup qualifier, a 3-1 win over benin.
and btw that makes him senegal's all-time leading scorer (31 goals atm)

[snipie]

Current discussion should be "Africa Cup of Nations qualifications" or "Cup of Nations".
I don't see top games in the Group stage, basically there is a clear favourite in every group, except maybe group I?
Ghana and Tunisia got a draw tomorrow although they were expected to win.
In the upcoming days, I think people will focus on Nigeria game vs Sierra Leone to see if the team recovered or not.

[Juggy777]

while it remains uncertain which club Sadio Mané will play for in the future, the winger scored a hattrick for his homeland in their opening africa cup qualifier, a 3-1 win over benin.
and btw that makes him senegal's all-time leading scorer (31 goals atm)

@cygan I didn’t like his statement that he was joking about his transfer, and now I feel that it was a ploy to get a better offer from Liverpool and I also believe that he isn’t going anywhere and will stay at Liverpool only. Lastly it seems that he was not distracted by the off field issues, and he was definitely in fine form as he easily scored a hattrick and single handedly won the match for Senegal.

[Davidvictorson]

Two losses in a row is not good for the reputation and international ranking of Nigeria. What makes this losses more painful is that we are not losing to a world-class or high ranking sides. The coach would have learnt some few lessons from this two matches. Nigerians now want to see to lessons or technical experience applied in our next match. At least we expect to see some players he had identified in these two friendlies joining our first team players to give the team the needed boast.

Personally, my focus for the Nigerian team under the new coach in their last two games was on performance. I honestly didn't expect Nigeria to win Mexico and Ecuador. There's so much they have to adjust to- new players are coming, new system, new coach tactics.  Overall, I would expect that the coach should solidify the defense and the team needs to be able to make use of the chances and turn them into goals as the team returns to Nigeria to prep for AFCON qualifiers against Sierra Leone and São Tomé and Príncipe on 9th of June and 13th June respectively.