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[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I won't entirely agree with this statement though, we see every year that the government even make promises and tip these players even before games and sometimes at every stage of the competition they get to, the government give them bonuses and still yet they perform poorly. These players are payed huge amounts to play for their country. I feel the problem is poor management and discipline. This players are not focused on the when they play for their national side.

The government don't give but comes to promise and we all know how this stories usually ends. How many past footballers do you see living well in the country that aren't still hustling out their life. Assuming the government did take care of them, will they still be hustling in their old ages. How many players have you living comfortably that invested their time heavily in the national team in the country.

It's the club football that sponsor this players lifestyle so naturally they'll be invested in club football. Injuries gotten from international football are taken care off my clubs etc. It isn't always about the bonuses but if the system was favourable to the players then we'll see more passion from them knowing they'll be fully taken care of.

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[SatoPrincess]

I won't entirely agree with this statement though, we see every year that the government even make promises and tip these players even before games and sometimes at every stage of the competition they get to, the government give them bonuses and still yet they perform poorly. These players are payed huge amounts to play for their country. I feel the problem is poor management and discipline. This players are not focused on the when they play for their national side.

The government don't give but comes to promise and we all know how this stories usually ends. How many past footballers do you see living well in the country that aren't still hustling out their life. Assuming the government did take care of them, will they still be hustling in their old ages. How many players have you living comfortably that invested their time heavily in the national team in the country.

It's the club football that sponsor this players lifestyle so naturally they'll be invested in club football. Injuries gotten from international football are taken care off my clubs etc. It isn't always about the bonuses but if the system was favourable to the players then we'll see more passion from them knowing they'll be fully taken care of.

Do you mean the domestic league? If you are referring to the financial conditions of domestic players in the NPFL, I would agree with you. It’s a shame that they are not well paid and are even owed the little salary they earn sometimes they don’t receive their salaries for months. The domestic players are underrated, they are not even included or deem fit enough to play for the national team.

[Zlantann]

I won't entirely agree with this statement though, we see every year that the government even make promises and tip these players even before games and sometimes at every stage of the competition they get to, the government give them bonuses and still yet they perform poorly. These players are payed huge amounts to play for their country. I feel the problem is poor management and discipline. This players are not focused on the when they play for their national side.

The government don't give but comes to promise and we all know how this stories usually ends. How many past footballers do you see living well in the country that aren't still hustling out their life. Assuming the government did take care of them, will they still be hustling in their old ages. How many players have you living comfortably that invested their time heavily in the national team in the country.

It's the club football that sponsor this players lifestyle so naturally they'll be invested in club football. Injuries gotten from international football are taken care off my clubs etc. It isn't always about the bonuses but if the system was favourable to the players then we'll see more passion from them knowing they'll be fully taken care of.

I agree with every comment quoted, but playing for the national team is a great pride and honor. Nationalism sometimes succeeds financial rewards and our past players played for the pride and love for Nigeria. Yes the government is not living up to the expectation of the players but if they play for the Super Eagles only because of financial reward then they would not be productive. We have seen players single-handedly sponsoring their national teams. George Weah, Samuel Eto and some other rich players have paid bills of their respective national teams. Every one of us in our respective fields are also sacrificing of our country everyday. Hence these players must set aside the corruption ridden government and focus on their heartbroken fans.    

[Franctoshi]

It isn't the first time, 2006 FIFA world cup in Germany was the first time Nigeria failed to qualify for the world cup and guess who was the coach then, just sacked coach Augustine Eguavoen. This guy has a curse of not qualifying us to the world cup but in other news it is a good thing we didn't qualify because what would be the outcome, it's still disappointment as all the other world cup we have played there's nothing to show for it.

When it comes to the AFCON as well, we're no where to be found as the last time we won it was 2013 and that's 9 year's ago. Maybe having this time off will give us enough time to regroup and come back as a better squad and this new coach is giving me the feeling he might just be the right man for the Job.

Being the Giant of Africa,  literally Nigeria is not getting it right when it comes to footballing both in Africa and across the world.
Which I think the problem is in the management system the ( Nigerian Football federation NFF) partiality , bribery and curruption in selecting quality and talented players needed to do the job and coupled with the way in which the government treats the players during and after their football careers and compare them with how they treat players in other countries, which I think it's the most discouraging point for the players not giving their best when it comes to playing for the country.
       Because you might have good coach but not having the right players willing to give their best in order get positive results due to above reasons.
   Just look at a lot of wasted talented players across the country. Nigeria in summary is a place where dreams of talented players are buried.

[laurenB7742]

The government don't give but comes to promise and we all know how this stories usually ends. How many past footballers do you see living well in the country that aren't still hustling out their life. Assuming the government did take care of them, will they still be hustling in their old ages. How many players have you living comfortably that invested their time heavily in the national team in the country.
It's the club football that sponsor this players lifestyle so naturally they'll be invested in club football. Injuries gotten from international football are taken care off my clubs etc. It isn't always about the bonuses but if the system was favourable to the players then we'll see more passion from them knowing they'll be fully taken care of.

I agree with every comment quoted, but playing for the national team is a great pride and honor. Nationalism sometimes succeeds financial rewards and our past players played for the pride and love for Nigeria. Yes the government is not living up to the expectation of the players but if they play for the Super Eagles only because of financial reward then they would not be productive. We have seen players single-handedly sponsoring their national teams. George Weah, Samuel Eto and some other rich players have paid bills of their respective national teams. Every one of us in our respective fields are also sacrificing of our country everyday. Hence these players must set aside the corruption ridden government and focus on their heartbroken fans.    

It is true that playing for the national team is something of great honor and it is a really different feeling to play for your own country.

But, the problem is most players nowadays think about how they are going to impress better clubs and make a good transfer with a better wage.

So, they are not very keen on playing for the national team. For a lot of players, it is just getting some play time under their belt and nothing to be too excited about.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

It is true that playing for the national team is something of great honor and it is a really different feeling to play for your own country.

Do you think a soldier will go defending his country without the right weapon. Any soldier that does that is putting himself in danger and most likely we get killed. Now relate it to football, you want a player to give a country that does not have the right facilities to take care of him in case of injury and recovering, you want that player to give his 100% playing for the country?. We just have to realise that most of the players playing for the national team in Africa these days are just playing so that they can get some international recognition by clubs that are scouting for players in Africa since Africa has the the best rising stars of recent.

Moving away from this discussion, the FIFA ranking is out and Nigeria’s World Ranking takes a Hit despite wins in AFCON Qualifiers and nations like Sierra Leone and Sao Tome etc also dropped on their ranking.

[Davidvictorson]

Do you think a soldier will go defending his country without the right weapon. Any soldier that does that is putting himself in danger and most likely we get killed. Now relate it to football, you want a player to give a country that does not have the right facilities to take care of him in case of injury and recovering, you want that player to give his 100% playing for the country?

I see your point. Nigeria do not have the right facilities to take care of an injured player and ensure he get full recovery and rehabilitation. It is therefore logically expected to get these attitudes from the players. I hope this changes soon.

Moving away from this discussion, the FIFA ranking is out and Nigeria’s World Ranking takes a Hit despite wins in AFCON Qualifiers and nations like Sierra Leone and Sao Tome etc also dropped on their ranking.

I don't understand how the FIFA ranking works but I agree with their latest ranking of Nigeria. I mean, the Nigeria team and their management has not really been the best lately. From changing coaches to corruption to government interference and what have you. They just have a lot of problems right now and it is affecting their performance at the world stage.

[D-law]

Top ranking for men in Fifa, Nigeria is no where found in the top 20 teams.
Senegal took them position, and they stand as the best African team in the world.
Representing a national team is good, but how facilitated are they ? I will choose to focus on club performance any way

[SatoPrincess]

I won't entirely agree with this statement though, we see every year that the government even make promises and tip these players even before games and sometimes at every stage of the competition they get to, the government give them bonuses and still yet they perform poorly. These players are payed huge amounts to play for their country. I feel the problem is poor management and discipline. This players are not focused on the when they play for their national side.

The government don't give but comes to promise and we all know how this stories usually ends. How many past footballers do you see living well in the country that aren't still hustling out their life. Assuming the government did take care of them, will they still be hustling in their old ages. How many players have you living comfortably that invested their time heavily in the national team in the country.

It's the club football that sponsor this players lifestyle so naturally they'll be invested in club football. Injuries gotten from international football are taken care off my clubs etc. It isn't always about the bonuses but if the system was favourable to the players then we'll see more passion from them knowing they'll be fully taken care of.

That's because the players sign long term contracts with their clubs, playing at national level is not a contract. Players are invited to represent the nation and play for short time usually for the duration of the competition. Your position in the team is not even fixed you might not be invited in the next  year but when you sign with a club its on contract level and the club covers all expenses and injuries incurred. That is why the club finances everything about you.

[snipie]

Top ranking for men in Fifa, Nigeria is no where found in the top 20 teams.
Senegal took them position, and they stand as the best African team in the world.
Representing a national team is good, but how facilitated are they ? I will choose to focus on club performance any way

Senegal first (rank 18) then Maroc second (rank 22) then Tunisia third in Africa (rank 30 in the world).. Nigeria is 4th (rank 31) but it wasn't the only that dropped but also Egypt took a hit although they have Salah among other good players.
This ranking is based on points but there is many countries before Nigeria that I believe they could win it in face to face games. Anyway, for the African teams that qualified for the World Cup, we will see how far they will be there.

[Davidvictorson]

Anyway, for the African teams that qualified for the World Cup, we will see how far they will be there.

I have very high expectation of the Ghanaian team. They played to well in the qualifying stages and they have one of the best teams in Africa. So ,yes I expect that they put up a fight real good to the round of 16. In the group stage they have already been paired with Portugal, South-Korea and Uruguay. Strong teams to test their resolve. The players that would be called up needs to be actively playing for their clubs. Players who are not older than 28. They need to have speed and be run and quick passes. Above they need to someone who can put the ball at the back of the net. Eddie Nketiah is someone that comes to mind.

[omgitsmehehe]

Anyway, for the African teams that qualified for the World Cup, we will see how far they will be there.

I have very high expectation of the Ghanaian team. They played to well in the qualifying stages and they have one of the best teams in Africa. So ,yes I expect that they put up a fight real good to the round of 16. In the group stage they have already been paired with Portugal, South-Korea and Uruguay. Strong teams to test their resolve. The players that would be called up needs to be actively playing for their clubs. Players who are not older than 28. They need to have speed and be run and quick passes. Above they need to someone who can put the ball at the back of the net. Eddie Nketiah is someone that comes to mind.

Ghana performance in the world cup qualifiers was outstanding, they played so well to qualify, the black stars are well known as one of the best team in Africa and i think they will perform so well in the world cup. Though the black stars need to be more serious in this competition, cause alot of teams are very serious when it comes to the world cup, they really need to work on their Frontline bring in consistent and young players that can represent them so well in the world cup, cause they will face alot of strong nation's in the world cup and it won't be a easy game all through.

[Masplanc]

Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.

When it comes to watching the Super Eagles games, I believe a high percentage of the fans are tired of given their time and devotion to games that turn out to bring heart break and anger to them. It always ends in premium tears watching the super eagles games.

That means am not the only one who has discovered that the Super Eagles of Nigeria no longer show a winning mentality on the pitch of play. There is nothing they want to play for again. No pride to defend Nigeria's football integrity. Nothing whatsoever. They already think themselves millionaires doing the country a favour by playing. The days of Christian Chukwu, Rasheed Yekini, Daniel Omokachi, Finidi and the rest of the Atlanta 96 squad were the glory days of Nigeria football. Big footballing countries panicked to even play the Super Eagles but that is not so any more now. It does not matter the coach they bring in, the boys continue to feel too big bringing out their legs. It is the mentality of the players and that has to change. I like how Samuel Eto is sounding the warning to members of the Cameroon team that they should sit up or leave the team. And I think Nigeria should do the same.

It is so bad to see professional players who are supposed to be happy and playing for their nation with pride because that should be were your loyalty lies. When you are invested to represent your nation and you feel too big and already made so much that you feel you are doing ypur nation a favour, that mentality alone is enough distraction. Back in the 1990s players were so happy and played with pride. I hope the new coach will can change this situation in the team.

I will not put all the blame on the Super Eagles players for not performing well and unable to win trophies. The reason for super eagles players backwardness,  the super eagles management are not encouraging the players financially and not been taking care of well . Most of the players don't have passion playing for the national team .

[SatoPrincess]

I’m withdrawing my attention from super eagles to the super falcons. I'm really expecting a lot from the Super Falcons. This is one of our strongest teams, they are playing for big teams in Europe and have wealth of experience. They have everything to go all the way. The Super Falcons are in the same group with South Africa, they managed to beat them last time in a penalty shootout. More concern on the fact that the super Falcons played a 1-1 draw against Bayelsa Queens. How well can they compete against teams in Africa if they can’t beat the domestic league champions easy.

[Pokapoka124]

It isn't the first time, 2006 FIFA world cup in Germany was the first time Nigeria failed to qualify for the world cup and guess who was the coach then, just sacked coach Augustine Eguavoen. This guy has a curse of not qualifying us to the world cup but in other news it is a good thing we didn't qualify because what would be the outcome, it's still disappointment as all the other world cup we have played there's nothing to show for it.

When it comes to the AFCON as well, we're no where to be found as the last time we won it was 2013 and that's 9 year's ago. Maybe having this time off will give us enough time to regroup and come back as a better squad and this new coach is giving me the feeling he might just be the right man for the Job.

Being the Giant of Africa,  literally Nigeria is not getting it right when it comes to footballing both in Africa and across the world.
Which I think the problem is in the management system the ( Nigerian Football federation NFF) partiality , bribery and curruption in selecting quality and talented players needed to do the job and coupled with the way in which the government treats the players during and after their football careers and compare them with how they treat players in other countries, which I think it's the most discouraging point for the players not giving their best when it comes to playing for the country.
       Because you might have good coach but not having the right players willing to give their best in order get positive results due to above reasons.
   Just look at a lot of wasted talented players across the country. Nigeria in summary is a place where dreams of talented players are buried.

The level of corruption is so high and swept across the nation and even the Nigerian Football Federation, and to curb this problem it will only be advisable to fight against these problems in the NFF particularly putting stop to favoritism, bribery and curruption in the player selection process and funding expenses relating to player welfare. We should also focus on building and scouting  talents from the grassroot to represent the nation that way we will improve and do better.

[omgitsmehehe]

It isn't the first time, 2006 FIFA world cup in Germany was the first time Nigeria failed to qualify for the world cup and guess who was the coach then, just sacked coach Augustine Eguavoen. This guy has a curse of not qualifying us to the world cup but in other news it is a good thing we didn't qualify because what would be the outcome, it's still disappointment as all the other world cup we have played there's nothing to show for it.

When it comes to the AFCON as well, we're no where to be found as the last time we won it was 2013 and that's 9 year's ago. Maybe having this time off will give us enough time to regroup and come back as a better squad and this new coach is giving me the feeling he might just be the right man for the Job.

Being the Giant of Africa,  literally Nigeria is not getting it right when it comes to footballing both in Africa and across the world.
Which I think the problem is in the management system the ( Nigerian Football federation NFF) partiality , bribery and curruption in selecting quality and talented players needed to do the job and coupled with the way in which the government treats the players during and after their football careers and compare them with how they treat players in other countries, which I think it's the most discouraging point for the players not giving their best when it comes to playing for the country.
       Because you might have good coach but not having the right players willing to give their best in order get positive results due to above reasons.
   Just look at a lot of wasted talented players across the country. Nigeria in summary is a place where dreams of talented players are buried.

The level of corruption is so high and swept across the nation and even the Nigerian Football Federation, and to curb this problem it will only be advisable to fight against these problems in the NFF particularly putting stop to favoritism, bribery and curruption in the player selection process and funding expenses relating to player welfare. We should also focus on building and scouting  talents from the grassroot to represent the nation that way we will improve and do better.

The name Giant of Africa is just a slogan, cause we are not working according to the name. The Nigeria football federation (NFF) is full of corruption and favoritism, they only value players playing in most of the European clubs, they don't give way to the young players to see if they can perform to our expectations. They only brings ln players cause of their fame and clubs they are not giving way to the Grass Roots players, as the giant of Africa the last time they won the Afcon was 2013, which is so bad for a country like Nigeria. Perhaps this new coach has a good pattern of controlling the game, he is the right man for the job, since his takeover as the super eagles head coach the team performance has really change and it seems he has the ability to  manage the team, so let us give him sometimes.

[Masplanc]

Being the Giant of Africa,  literally Nigeria is not getting it right when it comes to footballing both in Africa and across the world.
Which I think the problem is in the management system the ( Nigerian Football federation NFF) partiality , bribery and curruption in selecting quality and talented players needed to do the job and coupled with the way in which the government treats the players during and after their football careers and compare them with how they treat players in other countries, which I think it's the most discouraging point for the players not giving their best when it comes to playing for the country.
       Because you might have good coach but not having the right players willing to give their best in order get positive results due to above reasons.
   Just look at a lot of wasted talented players across the country. Nigeria in summary is a place where dreams of talented players are buried.

The nigeria team has a lot of challenges that they are facing. The politics in the nigeria football federation is the biggest problem in the nigeria football,  it affects choosing a coach for the team, it also affect bringing talented players who are good for the job . Because of the politics involved in nigeria football federation players are selected based on connections and not of talent.

[Ebede]

Being the Giant of Africa,  literally Nigeria is not getting it right when it comes to footballing both in Africa and across the world.
Which I think the problem is in the management system the ( Nigerian Football federation NFF) partiality , bribery and curruption in selecting quality and talented players needed to do the job and coupled with the way in which the government treats the players during and after their football careers and compare them with how they treat players in other countries, which I think it's the most discouraging point for the players not giving their best when it comes to playing for the country.
       Because you might have good coach but not having the right players willing to give their best in order get positive results due to above reasons.
   Just look at a lot of wasted talented players across the country. Nigeria in summary is a place where dreams of talented players are buried.

The nigeria team has a lot of challenges that they are facing. The politics in the nigeria football federation is the biggest problem in the nigeria football,  it affects choosing a coach for the team, it also affect bringing talented players who are good for the job . Because of the politics involved in nigeria football federation players are selected based on connections and not of talent.

another thing that affect football team is politics when there's a much politics in football team that country does not survive it because what football or soccer needs to be survive is coordination and the sincerity then talking of Nigeria team Nigeria is facing challenges but in a political way and also in football club team you cannot see a good player of of Nigeria how is playing in nice club that will return and play forNigerian country football team because the country itself is not harmonize for their player to be courage's

[S A KHAIR]

The level of corruption is so high and swept across the nation and even the Nigerian Football Federation, and to curb this problem it will only be advisable to fight against these problems in the NFF particularly putting stop to favoritism, bribery and curruption in the player selection process and funding expenses relating to player welfare. We should also focus on building and scouting  talents from the grassroot to represent the nation that way we will improve and do better.

The name Giant of Africa is just a slogan, cause we are not working according to the name. The Nigeria football federation (NFF) is full of corruption and favoritism, they only value players playing in most of the European clubs, they don't give way to the young players to see if they can perform to our expectations.
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The Nigerian football team is not going to improve at all if it is plagued with corruption and favoritism. A lot of important personnel need to be changed. And punish him so that it is made to send a message. Currently, they are not doing so good right now as well. This really needs to change otherwise the team is not going to improve.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The super eagles loose again to Ecuador with a 1-0 score line,, the game has no importance given the fact that's it's a friendly game,, but momentum is supposed to be built given that it's a new head coach ,,but I believe the coach has all the time at his disposal to bring the team back to winning ways before the fans begins to grow frustration,,  we need to build momentum against our upcoming qualifying matches be it afcon or next world cup,,  the super eagles just needs consistency ,, so we can build a team to compete with the likes of Senegal in Africa and other European and South American football power house,, and maybe move up ton the FIFA rankings,, all departments of the teams needs improvement.the NFF needs to give it's full backing to the coaching staffs physically, materially and financially in other to build a good a d strong team..

We also have to admit that the current quality of Ecuador is so extraordinary where they successfully strolled into the Qatar world cup this year. Of course, the defeat that was received by Nigeria against Ecuador was a natural thing, especially since the match was titled a friendly match. himself before they competed in the Africa cup qualifiers although currently Augustine has enough homework to fix as strong as Nigeria after failing to qualify for this year's itching at the hands of the previous coach of course the African grasshopper is the hope for them to be able to compete in 2023 later

I think that Nigeria has a great team, but that the players do not understand each other on the field, this is something that they have to correct now, to have an idea Ecuador is a country whose football has grown a lot, it is very similar to Colombian football In fact, they had a great Colombian coach who helped them a lot to qualify for the World Cup and this has been going on for years, the Ecuadorians used to be a team that hardly went to the World Cups, now they have had the good fortune to go to the last of the The South American classification was a bit complicated for them, but finally the results were given to them, now they have some problems because of a player who may put going to the World Cup in check.

Yes, I would agree with you that the lack of communication and connection within the Super Eagles camp is an issue that needs attention. These players need to be camped earlier than the expected date, giving time to get to know themselves to create that connection and also we need to have a stable squad not changing the squad every year and starting all over again, let it be that we are having few additions from time to time not changing the team every year. This will even help the coach to know and understand his players better.

I believe that I have already said it that the new coach will take some time, and we should not expect much from him immediately as preparing an international team is always a difficult job. Lastly I feel that he’ll be doing his homework on the above mentioned issues, and we’ll have to give him few more games to prove himself because I feel that it’s unfair to judge him so soon in his tenure.

Yes, you are right, but the Nigerian Federation should give the coach a good chance, sometimes it is not so easy to join a team where he does not know all his leagues very well, from the academy to the professionals, I know that the players of now They are the ones who will show their faces from the next year for the qualifiers for the next World Cup, but for now they have to know everything, I would focus on looking for the U-20 players, because they are young and most likely they will have enough impact because they are players who mostly come without fear and with great talent, and I would form a team with more young players than veteran players.

The level of corruption is so high and swept across the nation and even the Nigerian Football Federation, and to curb this problem it will only be advisable to fight against these problems in the NFF particularly putting stop to favoritism, bribery and curruption in the player selection process and funding expenses relating to player welfare. We should also focus on building and scouting  talents from the grassroot to represent the nation that way we will improve and do better.

The name Giant of Africa is just a slogan, cause we are not working according to the name. The Nigeria football federation (NFF) is full of corruption and favoritism, they only value players playing in most of the European clubs, they don't give way to the young players to see if they can perform to our expectations.
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The Nigerian football team is not going to improve at all if it is plagued with corruption and favoritism. A lot of important personnel need to be changed. And punish him so that it is made to send a message. Currently, they are not doing so good right now as well. This really needs to change otherwise the team is not going to improve.

Well I know that sometimes we feel very helpless for everything that is experienced in football, not only in life do we see injustices, but we must also emphasize that FIFA has attacked all acts of corruption, the case can be presented through a delegate of the team so that the case can be studied by FIFA, if there is enough evidence, I think it could be considered and the pertinent measures taken.