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June 28, 2022, 05:38:52 PM
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The nigeria team has a lot of challenges that they are facing. The politics in the nigeria football federation is the biggest problem in the nigeria football,  it affects choosing a coach for the team, it also affect bringing talented players who are good for the job . Because of the politics involved in nigeria football federation players are selected based on connections and not of talent.

The corruption is so strong you could smell it from a mile away. We have young talents with great potentials in the Nigeria Professional Football League but it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for the corrupt managments to pick a player from the Nigerian league. We have fantastic players like *Mbaoma from Enyimba who is the highest goal scorer in this season followed by Akuneto from Rivers United and Abdulazeez from Gombe United. These players and many could be groomed to player at a higher efficiency but they are over looked. It makes me sick to my stomach whenever I hear of one scandal from the NFF or the other.

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June 28, 2022, 06:09:03 PM
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The nigeria team has a lot of challenges that they are facing. The politics in the nigeria football federation is the biggest problem in the nigeria football,  it affects choosing a coach for the team, it also affect bringing talented players who are good for the job . Because of the politics involved in nigeria football federation players are selected based on connections and not of talent.

The corruption is so strong you could smell it from a mile away. We have young talents with great potentials in the Nigeria Professional Football League but it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for the corrupt managments to pick a player from the Nigerian league. We have fantastic players like *Mbaoma from Enyimba who is the highest goal scorer in this season followed by Akuneto from Rivers United and Abdulazeez from Gombe United. These players and many could be groomed to player at a higher efficiency but they are over looked. It makes me sick to my stomach whenever I hear of one scandal from the NFF or the other.

*https://www.besoccer.com/competition/rankings/npfl/2022/top-scorers
The cycle is old, corruption starts from the Nigerian professional football league to the Nigerian football federation. It pains me that players from the NPFL are not given a chance in the national team.  There is no reason why good players from the NPFL should not be drafted into the national team. We only value our players when they are signed for big clubs in Europe that's when we want them to play for the country.

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June 30, 2022, 04:46:59 AM
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There is no reason why good players from the NPFL should not be drafted into the national team. We only value our players when they are signed for big clubs in Europe that's when we want them to play for the country.

Well this is why I campaign for indigenous managers to manage our national team. When a coach is from that nationality, it's easier to introduce the local prayers from our national league to the nation squad but when the coach is foreign, he seems to concentrate on foreign players etc. When we look back at history, the only coach that was good at doing this was Stephen Keshi and he was a local coach and he won us our last trophy in 2013.

Also the scouting department has to be questions here because I doubt, If they were doing their job well, we'll be having this discussion here. It doesn't totally depends on the coach to fin players, the department of scouting should be responsible for that. The coach only has to test them to see if they fit into his game plan Them use them frequently.

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June 30, 2022, 05:37:16 AM
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I’m withdrawing my attention from super eagles to the super falcons. I'm really expecting a lot from the Super Falcons. This is one of our strongest teams, they are playing for big teams in Europe and have wealth of experience. They have everything to go all the way. The Super Falcons are in the same group with South Africa, they managed to beat them last time in a penalty shootout. More concern on the fact that the super Falcons played a 1-1 draw against Bayelsa Queens. How well can they compete against teams in Africa if they can’t beat the domestic league champions easy.
Super Falcons tends to do well in African women soccer competitions, however when it comes to the big stage Female World Cup they flopped despite the fact that some of this girls play professional football in Europe and USA, I am expecting the team to continue with their dominance of African soccer in the upcoming WAFCON in Morrocco luckily they are in an easy group comprising of Burundi, Botswana and South Africa which is the only country that pose a challenge to the Super Falcons, all eyes will be on the duo of Asisat Oshoala and Rasheedat Ajibade Primera Division Spanish based players to shine.

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June 30, 2022, 10:46:07 AM
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There is no reason why good players from the NPFL should not be drafted into the national team. We only value our players when they are signed for big clubs in Europe that's when we want them to play for the country.

Well this is why I campaign for indigenous managers to manage our national team. When a coach is from that nationality, it's easier to introduce the local prayers from our national league to the nation squad but when the coach is foreign, he seems to concentrate on foreign players etc. When we look back at history, the only coach that was good at doing this was Stephen Keshi and he was a local coach and he won us our last trophy in 2013.

Also the scouting department has to be questions here because I doubt, If they were doing their job well, we'll be having this discussion here. It doesn't totally depends on the coach to fin players, the department of scouting should be responsible for that. The coach only has to test them to see if they fit into his game plan Them use them frequently.
Stephen keshi is just a gifted coach that has the qualities of a good coach, he is one of the best coach the Super Eagles has ever had.apart from Stephen keshi their are other indigenous coaches that have managed the league, coach like olisah,  Augustus egueavon this men were incompetent in their work.  Nigeria football is not only a problem of coach , the problem is mainly is mainly politics and bad leadership in the team.

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There is no reason why good players from the NPFL should not be drafted into the national team. We only value our players when they are signed for big clubs in Europe that's when we want them to play for the country.

Well this is why I campaign for indigenous managers to manage our national team. When a coach is from that nationality, it's easier to introduce the local prayers from our national league to the nation squad but when the coach is foreign, he seems to concentrate on foreign players etc. When we look back at history, the only coach that was good at doing this was Stephen Keshi and he was a local coach and he won us our last trophy in 2013.

Also the scouting department has to be questions here because I doubt, If they were doing their job well, we'll be having this discussion here. It doesn't totally depends on the coach to fin players, the department of scouting should be responsible for that. The coach only has to test them to see if they fit into his game plan Them use them frequently.
Stephen keshi is just a gifted coach that has the qualities of a good coach, he is one of the best coach the Super Eagles has ever had.apart from Stephen keshi their are other indigenous coaches that have managed the league, coach like olisah,  Augustus egueavon this men were incompetent in their work.  Nigeria football is not only a problem of coach , the problem is mainly is mainly politics and bad leadership in the team.
Nigerian fans are a difficult lot to please, Stephen Keshi did a great job with the super eagles in the past, really made good impact in his time as the super eagles manager, creating records and achievements for the nation and his legacy will always be remembered. The problem in the Nigerian football association is not just bad coaches but politics and bad leadership and until we begin to experience a change, this problems will remain and restrict progress for the super eagles.

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July 01, 2022, 02:16:07 AM
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I’m withdrawing my attention from super eagles to the super falcons. I'm really expecting a lot from the Super Falcons. This is one of our strongest teams, they are playing for big teams in Europe and have wealth of experience. They have everything to go all the way. The Super Falcons are in the same group with South Africa, they managed to beat them last time in a penalty shootout. More concern on the fact that the super Falcons played a 1-1 draw against Bayelsa Queens. How well can they compete against teams in Africa if they can’t beat the domestic league champions easy.
Super Falcons tends to do well in African women soccer competitions, however when it comes to the big stage Female World Cup they flopped despite the fact that some of this girls play professional football in Europe and USA, I am expecting the team to continue with their dominance of African soccer in the upcoming WAFCON in Morrocco luckily they are in an easy group comprising of Burundi, Botswana and South Africa which is the only country that pose a challenge to the Super Falcons, all eyes will be on the duo of Asisat Oshoala and Rasheedat Ajibade Primera Division Spanish based players to shine.
The super falcons of Nigeria have been doing great representing the nation internationally and dominating African football however their performance in the World Cup has not been on same level when they play in Africa despite having some big names like Asisat Oshoala and Rasheedat, I can't tell what the problem could be, probably the team isn't so good enough to win the world cup.

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July 01, 2022, 04:12:19 AM
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Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.

You should pick interest back in watching the Super eagle play though as we missing out of the World cup could be a good thing as it gives the coach time to build the team he wants.

Let them keep playing, and doing it well also. I know with time I can go back to watching them. I did not stop watching them because they were not winning games but because of their lack of seriousness on the field of play. I hate people not taking what they do serious.

Even though i am not nigerian but i was really disapointed from their result in the last african cup of nations

Nigeria's outing at the AFCON is enough to disappoint anyone who loves the Super Eagles of Nigeria. The team disappointed when it was time to come to the party. And after that, the Eagles messed up their qualifiers in the second leg with Ghana for the world cup in Qatar.
Me too i stopped being a football fan since money became the major aspect of football, profesional players became well payed that they lost their passion for football, not to mention that some mediocre player are worth million of dollars i find it really surprising how a defender like maguire is worth more than a defender like maldini the only reason i am still following football is because of gambling.
Unfortunately, the soccer games and all the soccer tournaments that are held have become a clear business model where a lot of money is earned, what I never liked was the fixed games, it is obvious that there were many fixed games when everything was uncovered that was in evidence that the parties at the national and international level suffer from all the interests that are from many corporations and apart from many characters that are clearly "important" African football as well as that of any continent corruption will always be the common denominator, it is something that must be learned to live.

I’m withdrawing my attention from super eagles to the super falcons. I'm really expecting a lot from the Super Falcons. This is one of our strongest teams, they are playing for big teams in Europe and have wealth of experience. They have everything to go all the way. The Super Falcons are in the same group with South Africa, they managed to beat them last time in a penalty shootout. More concern on the fact that the super Falcons played a 1-1 draw against Bayelsa Queens. How well can they compete against teams in Africa if they can’t beat the domestic league champions easy.
Super Falcons tends to do well in African women soccer competitions, however when it comes to the big stage Female World Cup they flopped despite the fact that some of this girls play professional football in Europe and USA, I am expecting the team to continue with their dominance of African soccer in the upcoming WAFCON in Morrocco luckily they are in an easy group comprising of Burundi, Botswana and South Africa which is the only country that pose a challenge to the Super Falcons, all eyes will be on the duo of Asisat Oshoala and Rasheedat Ajibade Primera Division Spanish based players to shine.
The super falcons of Nigeria have been doing great representing the nation internationally and dominating African football however their performance in the World Cup has not been on same level when they play in Africa despite having some big names like Asisat Oshoala and Rasheedat, I can't tell what the problem could be, probably the team isn't so good enough to win the world cup.

I know that what I am going to say is an ambiguous statement, but I think that what the eagles have lacked is a lot of luck, because they play very well, or it may be that they are failing in the most important thing, the most important thing in every athlete is the confidence, security, it seems that they think they don't deserve it and that happens a lot, but if they had the self-esteem of a Brazil? of a France? Germany, let each player believe it, things would change.

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July 03, 2022, 06:36:12 PM
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The Super Eagles are not just lacking luck but they are lacking so many things that are bringing set back to them. Football is not all about luck sometimes, their are some certain things that are necessary for a team to possess. Super eagles needs to work very hard to be what they used to be like before.

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July 03, 2022, 07:05:27 PM
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The Super Eagles are not just lacking luck but they are lacking so many things that are bringing set back to them. Football is not all about luck sometimes, their are some certain things that are necessary for a team to possess. Super eagles needs to work very hard to be what they used to be like before.

I won't say luck because they didn't play so well that you should expect luck to play in their favour, I'm assuming you're taking about the games that lead to the world cup that's the world cup qualifiers. That was the last time I saw the Super Eagles playing badly, after then their performances so far has been very decent especially under this new coach. They're currently topping their group with the best goal difference in the whole tournament and not just their group.

They're are steadily improving and the transfer window has been favoring the Super Eagles player as they're getting good club interest. And with good playing time at club level will result to better exposure, it'll give the players more experience that they can use to dominate the domestic tournaments in Africa. We just have to give this guys times.

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July 03, 2022, 08:16:10 PM
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Confederation of Africa football (CAF) postpone 2023 AFCON to 2024 due to world cup that will be coming by November- December this year. It would have been better if the AFCON tournament should be taking place once in every four years to make good plans about it than every two years with no good plans. It is a good plan for CAF to postpone the AFCON to 2024.

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The Super Eagles are not just lacking luck but they are lacking so many things that are bringing set back to them. Football is not all about luck sometimes, their are some certain things that are necessary for a team to possess. Super eagles needs to work very hard to be what they used to be like before.

I won't say luck because they didn't play so well that you should expect luck to play in their favour, I'm assuming you're taking about the games that lead to the world cup that's the world cup qualifiers. That was the last time I saw the Super Eagles playing badly, after then their performances so far has been very decent especially under this new coach. They're currently topping their group with the best goal difference in the whole tournament and not just their group.

They're are steadily improving and the transfer window has been favoring the Super Eagles player as they're getting good club interest. And with good playing time at club level will result to better exposure, it'll give the players more experience that they can use to dominate the domestic tournaments in Africa. We just have to give this guys times.
The situation with the Super Eagles has entirely nothing to do with luck. A lot of issues have to be fixed, we have more big players in the squad now than ever and we still find it very difficult to qualify even for the group stages playing against other African countries. How lucky do we think we can be against European countries. There has to be a constructive change, we need connection between the players and a positive spirit in the team.

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July 04, 2022, 12:26:21 PM
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The situation with the Super Eagles has entirely nothing to do with luck. A lot of issues have to be fixed, we have more big players in the squad now than ever and we still find it very difficult to qualify even for the group stages playing against other African countries. How lucky do we think we can be against European countries. There has to be constructive change, we need connection and a positive spirit in the team.
Totally agree with you. I do not mean to sound like a pessimist here but I really do not see a change coming anytime this year. John Maxwell said, "Everything rises and falls on leadership". I couldn't agree more. What we see playing out in the Super Eagles is a leadership issue. And I mean from the leadership of the nation and not just the NFF. Hopefully, see a change in the coming year.

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July 04, 2022, 01:12:49 PM
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The situation with the Super Eagles has entirely nothing to do with luck. A lot of issues have to be fixed, we have more big players in the squad now than ever and we still find it very difficult to qualify even for the group stages playing against other African countries. How lucky do we think we can be against European countries. There has to be constructive change, we need connection and a positive spirit in the team.
Totally agree with you. I do not mean to sound like a pessimist here but I really do not see a change coming anytime this year. John Maxwell said, "Everything rises and falls on leadership". I couldn't agree more. What we see playing out in the Super Eagles is a leadership issue. And I mean from the leadership of the nation and not just the NFF. Hopefully, see a change in the coming year.
I don't think the problem in the national team today has something to do with the leadership of the country. The super-eagles of Nigeria have enjoyed a good relationship with the current president in the sense that their bonuses and other match allowances have never been delayed since his administration. The issue we have had so far has been the choice of a good coach and the inability of our coaches to select the rightful players to play when we have matches to play and that has been our major problem in the team.


I remember when one of the former coaches Genot Rohr complained that he is not responsible for making a selection of the players in the team during a major competition and that alone proved that there are people responsible for the downfall of the national team. I will suggest we push the blame and failure to the NFF and the board of directors, they need to resign from their position or stop their corrupt practices that's when we will see a good change in the Super Eagles team.

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July 04, 2022, 07:02:57 PM
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South Africa have once again beat the Super Falcons 2-1 in the WAFCON tournament. Before the game most people felt South Africa are ahead of the Super Falcons. We have won the tournament nine times, the team is heading for their tenth championship. South Africa beat the Super Falcons with a goal difference, it’s a respectable scoreline. Bayana Bayana are our longtime rivals, the match wasn’t expected to be easy. This loss can be blamed on the coach, the super falcons conceded goals in quick succession. Super Eagles or Super Falcons, both of our national teams are performing poorly.

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South Africa have once again beat the Super Falcons 2-1 in the WAFCON tournament. Before the game most people felt South Africa are ahead of the Super Falcons. We have won the tournament nine times, the team is heading for their tenth championship. South Africa beat the Super Falcons with a goal difference, it’s a respectable scoreline. Bayana Bayana are our longtime rivals, the match wasn’t expected to be easy. This loss can be blamed on the coach, the super falcons conceded goals in quick succession. Super Eagles or Super Falcons, both of our national teams are performing poorly.
Its only the first round of the group stage, we have seen teams lose the first game and end up winning the trophy so maybe this will be a wake up call for the super eagles, maybe the coach is to blame but it will be better to let critisism until the end of the competition.
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I won't entirely put the blame on the Super Eagles players as the management also have a big role to play in the team. If you have the players and the coach is not good enough you will find it so difficult getting results, you can also get a good manager and still get issues from the top level that will also affect the team so it would be unfair to put all the blame on the players when the top level management also have important roles to play to boost the teams performance.
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Nigeria and South Africa they matches ended with 1:2. Nigeria play football team he's not playing well because of lack of concentration Force particle team in the history South Africa have not defeated Nigeria in any football team all football competition but today South Africa has defeated Nigeria because of lack of experiencing and the lack of mobilisation and encouragement so all these is from the coach and the government who refused to sponsor the football of Nigerian group they played very well but South Africa defeated that is if there is of good strategies in football

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July 04, 2022, 09:02:42 PM
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I won't entirely put the blame on the Super Eagles players as the management also have a big role to play in the team. If you have the players and the coach is not good enough you will find it so difficult getting results, you can also get a good manager and still get issues from the top level that will also affect the team so it would be unfair to put all the blame on the players when the top level management also have important roles to play to boost the teams performance.
The players are not even to be blame if you think about it , the reason for poor performance is not the fault of the players but from the management,  things are not done well by the management the way it is supposed to be done that is why it is really affecting the performance of the players.  I blame the management for everything.

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July 04, 2022, 09:04:04 PM
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I was a bit confused about the replies above before understanding that you were talking about Africa Women Cup of Nations. I was wondering in what competition Nigeria faced South Africa!
Not sure if this is the best topic to discuss this competition, it is confusing. It would be better to start another topic about that imo.

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