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[coco23]

There were some pretty ugly scenes after the Senegal and Egypt match yesterday. I saw a short clip on Twitter showing Senegal fans storming onto the pitch trying to attack Salah. He also had cups and drinks thrown at him as he was leaving the pitch after the defeat. I didn't watch the match, so I don't know the reasons behind it all. Is it just due to a rivalry between the two nations or did Salah do or say anything to kind of justify such (unfair) treatment? He doesn't seem like the type to do something like that to me.   

I also didn't watch the game, but it sounds like it was quite ugly: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/29/african-world-cup-playoffs-senegal-egypt-nigeria-ghana-algeria-cameroon-morocco-dr-congo-tunisia-mali

A statement from the Egypt FA said: “The Egypt national team have been exposed to racism with offensive signs in the stands against the Egyptian players in general, and Mohamed Salah in particular.
“The crowd also intimidated the players by throwing bottles and rocks on them during the warm-up. The Egyptian group’s busses have also been exposed to assaults that led to broken windows and injuries; filed with pictures and videos as proof in the complaint submitted.”

This is shameful and pretty shocking, I hope that something will be done to prevent scenes like this in the future!
Reading further into the article, it seems that Nigeria vs Ghana also had their share of "fan" violence. I hope we won't see things like that at the World Cup. Every team and all fans deserve a fair and respectful treatment to enjoy the sport

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[Marykeller]

Frankly, Super Eagle does not deserve to be in any tournament, let alone the World cup. The team as it is presently is not in inform as they played in the Afcon. Congratulations to the Ghanaian team. A well-fought victory. Super Eagle needed to have been disbanded a long time ago. Am so disappointed with Super Eagles players in today's match. It would have been much better If they didn't play today than spoiling someone's mode

Super eagles disappointed Nigerians this evening at the Abuja stadium. They failed to qualify for the world cup for the first time since 2006. It's a tragedy for them, the super eagles were aiming for a win not a draw. While Ghana were put in front in the early 10th minutes of the game. All thanks to Thomas partey who gave Black stars the lead, sooner, Troost-Ekong netted the black stars goal post with a penalty in the 22th minutes of the game. Although I was expecting more goals in the second half, but Ghana later played a defensive game. Ghana have both options to qualify for the world cup, either a win or draw, luckily they drawed against Nigeria. Every Nigerians that watch the game is seriously in a devastating condition.

Nigeria’s biggest problem in that match was the European born players. Most of them were born in other countries, they do not know what football means to us. They do not understand how there is insecurity, poverty and whatnot in the country. They did not understand that in all these things. It's football that gives us joy.
There was no urgency to win the match, they were all playing sluggishly.

Our coach wasn’t tactical enough. His plan failed from the start of the second half. His introduction of Shegu Abdullahi made it obvious that he had no clue anymore.
If you are having a hard time dealing with the loss, please stay calm.
It’s not even close to how terrible the state of the nation is. Maybe we need to focus on the real problems.

[Oshosondy]

There were some pretty ugly scenes after the Senegal and Egypt match yesterday. I saw a short clip on Twitter showing Senegal fans storming onto the pitch trying to attack Salah. He also had cups and drinks thrown at him as he was leaving the pitch after the defeat. I didn't watch the match, so I don't know the reasons behind it all. Is it just due to a rivalry between the two nations or did Salah do or say anything to kind of justify such (unfair) treatment? He doesn't seem like the type to do something like that to me.   

That was absolutely not called for, but likely racism because Egypts are whiltes while Senegal are blacks. But this surprised me because racism are most from whites not blacks and not common in Africa. What I am still thinking is that it was used to distract him when his country's team were on the way to the stadium, but after match, that is another thing.

Nigeria’s biggest problem in that match was the European born players. Most of them were born in other countries, they do not know what football means to us. They do not understand how there is insecurity, poverty and whatnot in the country. They did not understand that in all these things. It's football that gives us joy.
There was no urgency to win the match, they were all playing sluggishly.

Do you know what I can say about Nigeria issue, the Nigerian economy is not even good, not attractive for companies to have sufficient funds to sponsor clubs, good talents in Nigeria are buried forever because people are not interested to join clubs in Nigeria. You can see in foreign countries with good players how they have been practicing sport right from a child age, that is not happening in Nigeria.

[Gozie51]

World Cup qualifiers zone African have been finish with 5 countries qualify to World Cup after last match success win, here 5 countries as African zone

1. Cameroon
2. Senegal
3. GHANA
4. Morocco
5. Tunisia

Above listed country from African will play on World Cup, I was sad getting my favorite player Salah from Egypt can't play on world cup after defeating by Senegal with penalty kick.

Among these five teams that qualified for the world cup, they all played in the last Afcon and judging by their performance I think only two of them can give a fight in the tournament and they are Senegal and Cameroon. The rest three may just be push over for the European teams and may not come out from the group stage. Among Senegal and Cameroon however,  judging from the final match between Senegal and Egypt at the Afcon, Senegal as the current champion has young players that are ready to show they can go all the way.

[ibuddy122505]

World Cup qualifiers zone African have been finish with 5 countries qualify to World Cup after last match success win, here 5 countries as African zone

1. Cameroon
2. Senegal
3. GHANA
4. Morocco
5. Tunisia

Above listed country from African will play on World Cup, I was sad getting my favorite player Salah from Egypt can't play on world cup after defeating by Senegal with penalty kick.

Senegal, Cameroon, Ghana, Morocco and Tunisia every one of these African teams booked their places at the FIFA World Cup in Qatar. Senegal has a promising team. As Salah's Egypt knocked out by penalty shoot-out, African hope lies down on Senegal, Cameroon, and, Morocco this year. I don't know other destination. I must say Senegal is powerful team. I'm completely frustrated in the Nigerians and Egypt takeoffs from World Cup. Sorry to Salah!

[Rockstarguy]

Again this showed that Austin the incompetent Augustus Egueavon is not a tactical coach. Many people say that if not for pride or something and maybe his ability to give percentage to the powers in the glasshouse, Emmanuel Emenike should have been a better choice to lead the Eagles. But everybody is suffering that wrong decision for allowing Egueavon lead us. They all have to hide their faces in shame now. Sports in every aspect is dying in Nigeria. The local league is almost dead. The female league is nothing to write home. Let everybody in Nigeria feel this pain and move on. Farewell to world cup 2022. Farewell to Qatar.

Augustus egueavon is not a good coach,  all the time as nigeria coach he always fails to deliver. In 2012 as a coach the nigeria team didn't qualify in AFCON,  the same year in 2012 in his watch as coach the nigeria team didn’t qualifier  for Olympics,  also in 2021 afcon round  of 16 nigeria didn't qualify and again 2022 FIFA World Cup as a coach nigeria didn't qualify with bad performance. I think the coach should be blame too for nigeria not to qualify.

[Juggy777]

There were some pretty ugly scenes after the Senegal and Egypt match yesterday. I saw a short clip on Twitter showing Senegal fans storming onto the pitch trying to attack Salah. He also had cups and drinks thrown at him as he was leaving the pitch after the defeat. I didn't watch the match, so I don't know the reasons behind it all. Is it just due to a rivalry between the two nations or did Salah do or say anything to kind of justify such (unfair) treatment? He doesn't seem like the type to do something like that to me.   

That was absolutely not called for, but likely racism because Egypts are whiltes while Senegal are blacks. But this surprised me because racism are most from whites not blacks and not common in Africa. What I am still thinking is that it was used to distract him when his country's team were on the way to the stadium, but after match, that is another thing.

Nigeria’s biggest problem in that match was the European born players. Most of them were born in other countries, they do not know what football means to us. They do not understand how there is insecurity, poverty and whatnot in the country. They did not understand that in all these things. It's football that gives us joy.
There was no urgency to win the match, they were all playing sluggishly.

Do you know what I can say about Nigeria issue, the Nigerian economy is not even good, not attractive for companies to have sufficient funds to sponsor clubs, good talents in Nigeria are buried forever because people are not interested to join clubs in Nigeria. You can see in foreign countries with good players how they have been practicing sport right from a child age, that is not happening in Nigeria.

I don’t think that Salah has done anything to deserve such horrible treatment, and the fans responsible for such racism acts should be banned. Lastly he was also subject to lasers during the penalty shoot out, and I really feel that the security should have done a better job to protect him.

[CryptoPanda]

Again this showed that Austin the incompetent Augustus Egueavon is not a tactical coach. Many people say that if not for pride or something and maybe his ability to give percentage to the powers in the glasshouse, Emmanuel Emenike should have been a better choice to lead the Eagles. But everybody is suffering that wrong decision for allowing Egueavon lead us. They all have to hide their faces in shame now. Sports in every aspect is dying in Nigeria. The local league is almost dead. The female league is nothing to write home. Let everybody in Nigeria feel this pain and move on. Farewell to world cup 2022. Farewell to Qatar.

What I never understood is why the Nigeria Football Federation held on to coach Eguavoen when it was crystal clear that he is not the right person to lead the Nigeria's team or project especially after their outing at African Cup Of Nations.  Eguavoen pretty much look like the Koeman of Africa, clueless and slow to effect change. The team was better off without him. Thankfully, the best team won and honestly, Nigeria's team does not deserve to be at the World Cup, it would have be a disaster.

[KTChampions]

A sad day for Nigeria and Egypt. And it’s hard to say for whom it’s sadder - for Egypt, which had an advantage after the first game and eventually lost in the lottery to Senegal (as well as in the African Cup final) or for Nigeria, which lost because of the “away goal” rule, which is gradually dying out everywhere. It is a pity that Salah will not go to the World Cup, and I am increasingly convinced that the system for selecting African teams is fundamentally unfair.

It is a sad day for those teams. But it would have been equally sad for Ghana or Senegal if it had been a different outcome. I think they should overthink their qualification rules in Africa. Of course it happens also in Europe that for instance Italy doesn't qualify, but this is kind of their own fault by playing inconsistently over a longer period of time. In Africa it all comes down to the final K.O. game, independent how well a team has played throughout the qualification.

It makes no sense to compare the African rules with the European ones - they are fundamentally different (and unfair for Africa). I don’t understand who guessed such stupidity: to identify the strongest African teams in order to weed out exactly half of them in a knockout match?! This is complete nonsense. Why is it impossible to reduce the number of groups and hold regular round-robin tournaments where the strongest team would receive a guaranteed ticket? This would be more fair and reduce the randomness of the results. I doubt that for example Egypt and Nigeria are weaker than all those African teams that have received a ticket.

[Boristhecat]

Honestly tonight I'm very disappointed and my enthusiasm is gone, I won 1-0 in the first leg but in the end Egypt lost on penalties, Moh one of the first kickers failed to score Mendy's goal, but I'm also very disappointed with Senegal fans always shooting leser towards Egypt goalkeeper, if Egypt kicks a penalty ball, Senegal fans are also busy shooting a leser in the face of an Egyptian player, I think FIFA should give a sanction to the Senegal national team.

I also believe that FIFA is obliged to take some action regarding these lasers. They are dangerous to the eye, in fact, they are weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzY30Ah8bKY - Here is a video where such a laser bursts 100 balloons standing in a row.
And here is the face of Salah before he took the penalty

[Maestro75]

Thankfully, the best team won and honestly, Nigeria's team does not deserve to be at the World Cup, it would have be a disaster.

Eventhough am a Nigerian, I like your comment. Those who wanted it more got the ticket. It is a good thing that Senegal and Tunisia made it through the qualifiers. Ghana at the world cup will not prove surprises because it is going there to make up the numbers. Nothing spectacular will come out from the other Africa countries apart from Senegal and Tunisia. With Nigeria out maybe it will make us sit up. There are so many wrongs going on in our sports. Eguavoen and everyone of the crew should be sacked.

[onecall123]

Honestly tonight I'm very disappointed and my enthusiasm is gone, I won 1-0 in the first leg but in the end Egypt lost on penalties, Moh one of the first kickers failed to score Mendy's goal, but I'm also very disappointed with Senegal fans always shooting leser towards Egypt goalkeeper, if Egypt kicks a penalty ball, Senegal fans are also busy shooting a leser in the face of an Egyptian player, I think FIFA should give a sanction to the Senegal national team.

I also believe that FIFA is obliged to take some action regarding these lasers. They are dangerous to the eye, in fact, they are weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzY30Ah8bKY - Here is a video where such a laser bursts 100 balloons standing in a row.
And here is the face of Salah before he took the penalty

It's a shame and unfair play that the referee should have stopped the game. With lasers in their eyes, how could they shoot such crucial penalties? It's unbelievable how they let the laser thing go. It is FIFA's duty to investigate that matter and to penalize Senegal's football association for their failure to control their fans. In its World Cup playoff match against Senegal on Tuesday, the Egyptian football association asserted that its national team was subjected to racism. There should be investigation and punishment for any such attacks.

[Rruchi man]

I also believe that FIFA is obliged to take some action regarding these lasers. They are dangerous to the eye, in fact, they are weapons.

And here is the face of Salah before he took the penalty

Lasers were banned in football to the best of my knowledge but implementation is very poor especially in Africa that's why they somehow found their way into the field. Because the game between Senegal and Egypt was aired same time as Nigeria and Ghana, i tuned in after the Nigerian game and was surprised to see laser lights from people all over the field, can be very distracting to play with.

When it got to Mo' Salah's turn to take the penalty, the Senegalese supporters with the lasers really focused it all on him, he could actually blame that for why he missed the kick...but unfortunately even if FIFA decides to take action,  i don't think it will still take away the world cup qualifications from Senegal, perhaps they may just face some sanctions...but Senegal is a team i am looking forward to see play in the world cup.

[CryptoPanda]

Nigeria’s biggest problem in that match was the European born players. Most of them were born in other countries, they do not know what football means to us. They do not understand how there is insecurity, poverty and whatnot in the country. They did not understand that in all these things. It's football that gives us joy.
There was no urgency to win the match, they were all playing sluggishly.

Our coach wasn’t tactical enough. His plan failed from the start of the second half. His introduction of Shegu Abdullahi made it obvious that he had no clue anymore.
If you are having a hard time dealing with the loss, please stay calm.
It’s not even close to how terrible the state of the nation is. Maybe we need to focus on the real problems.

I strongly disagree, the biggest problem of the Nigeria's team is not the players really. The players in the national team can compete with any team in the world. I would rather say the biggest problem of Nigeria is the ability to choose and assemble their team. They tend to lack a lot in the technical aspects of the game and coach Eguavoen was pretty much tactical woe, his choice of players and timing to make substitute were very wrong and that cost the team their chance to rep Africa in the world's cup

[Pokapoka124]

Honestly tonight I'm very disappointed and my enthusiasm is gone, I won 1-0 in the first leg but in the end Egypt lost on penalties, Moh one of the first kickers failed to score Mendy's goal, but I'm also very disappointed with Senegal fans always shooting leser towards Egypt goalkeeper, if Egypt kicks a penalty ball, Senegal fans are also busy shooting a leser in the face of an Egyptian player, I think FIFA should give a sanction to the Senegal national team.

I also believe that FIFA is obliged to take some action regarding these lasers. They are dangerous to the eye, in fact, they are weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzY30Ah8bKY - Here is a video where such a laser bursts 100 balloons standing in a row.
And here is the face of Salah before he took the penalty

It was quite a disturbing scene to watch but again, the Egyptian FA needs to sit down and assess how they treat other African teams when they play them in Egypt. This is the first time, we are getting such ugly behavior from Senegalese fans and it can be trace to the fact they were badly treated while in Egypt. The Egyptians can't really complain because that was a taste of a medicine produced by them and have been using it for many years and getting away with it.

[Marykeller]

Honestly tonight I'm very disappointed and my enthusiasm is gone, I won 1-0 in the first leg but in the end Egypt lost on penalties, Moh one of the first kickers failed to score Mendy's goal, but I'm also very disappointed with Senegal fans always shooting leser towards Egypt goalkeeper, if Egypt kicks a penalty ball, Senegal fans are also busy shooting a leser in the face of an Egyptian player, I think FIFA should give a sanction to the Senegal national team.

I also believe that FIFA is obliged to take some action regarding these lasers. They are dangerous to the eye, in fact, they are weapons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzY30Ah8bKY - Here is a video where such a laser bursts 100 balloons standing in a row.
And here is the face of Salah before he took the penalty

It's a shame and unfair play that the referee should have stopped the game. With lasers in their eyes, how could they shoot such crucial penalties? It's unbelievable how they let the laser thing go. It is FIFA's duty to investigate that matter and to penalize Senegal's football association for their failure to control their fans. In its World Cup playoff match against Senegal on Tuesday, the Egyptian football association asserted that its national team was subjected to racism. There should be investigation and punishment for any such attacks.

The laser shouldn't be taken as an excuse as to why the Egyptian lost the penalty to Senegalese. The laser was on before the penalty started. It was also on when the Senegalese took their penalty. The first 4 penalties were all lost by both teams. The opportunity was there for each team to win. The Egyptians shouldn't blame anyone for their loss.
How did the issue of racism come about? I didn't see the Senegalese displaying racist attacks on the Egyptians

[Jasad]

World Cup qualifiers zone African have been finish with 5 countries qualify to World Cup after last match success win, here 5 countries as African zone

1. Cameroon
2. Senegal
3. GHANA
4. Morocco
5. Tunisia

Above listed country from African will play on World Cup, I was sad getting my favorite player Salah from Egypt can't play on world cup after defeating by Senegal with penalty kick.

Dunno how many expected Egypt but also Algeria to be eliminated although they were leading with 1 goal in the first leg..
For Egypt, I couldn't blame them much since losing in penalties is something that you cannot control. At the opposite Algeria wasn't able to qualify due to a last minute goal..
Well, considering all of this, African teams won't go far in the World Cup.. Their performances are way under others especially Europeans and Conmebol ones.

Still confused with home and away goal with African world cup qualifier where they still adopt it, I see most country active participant on each world cup edition as Nigeria have missing this time world cup after eliminating from Ghana, first leg both countries play draw and Ghana as playing home match, but on 2nd leg away to Nigeria, Ghana success get draw with score 1-1 and as the winner for this match because created away goal and make Ghana will play on world cup, but different when UEFA Champion League match they not counted again with home and away goals created.

[jakdanyel]

In the third stage of the qualifiers, the most impressive matchup was of course Egypt v Senegal. These teams met again here and Egypt wanted to have revenge on them as well. They won the first match by 1-0. But Senegal finished ninety minutes of the second leg 1-0 ahead and we watched even penalty shoot-outs to decide the side to advance to the World Cup. And Senegal eliminated their opponent by 3-1 by penalties. Salah missed a penalty too. Egypt were disappointed against them once more.

[hashrateproducts]

In the third stage of the qualifiers, the most impressive matchup was of course Egypt v Senegal. These teams met again here and Egypt wanted to have revenge on them as well. They won the first match by 1-0. But Senegal finished ninety minutes of the second leg 1-0 ahead and we watched even penalty shoot-outs to decide the side to advance to the World Cup. And Senegal eliminated their opponent by 3-1 by penalties. Salah missed a penalty too. Egypt were disappointed against them once more.

Senegal have sent Egypt home after beating them in penalties. Sadio Mane and Edourd Mendy did their best in the game against Egypt. The game ended in 1-0, thereby it's goal sheet aggregate is 1-1. They moved to penalties, it was there that Salah, Zizo and Mostafa failed to net the ball. It was a Scrappy game for Egypt, they would be sad because it's the second time Senegal is humiliating them, first it was at the AFCON finals, Senegal won them. Now it's world cup qualifiers, they have been also knock-out by their latest arrival Senegal.

[KTChampions]

The laser shouldn't be taken as an excuse as to why the Egyptian lost the penalty to Senegalese. The laser was on before the penalty started. It was also on when the Senegalese took their penalty. The first 4 penalties were all lost by both teams. The opportunity was there for each team to win. The Egyptians shouldn't blame anyone for their loss.
How did the issue of racism come about? I didn't see the Senegalese displaying racist attacks on the Egyptians

I think the main idea of those who talk about lasers is not about a specific match (its result can no longer be changed), but about the future. Obviously, the use of these lasers is very similar to terrorism. If matches are often stopped due to the fact that a lighter or a can of water flies into a player, why does this not happen in the case of lasers? This is a mistake of both the referee and the stewards in the stands (or the police, I don’t know who keeps order there).