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June 20, 2022, 07:16:05 AM
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The super eagles loose again to Ecuador with a 1-0 score line,, the game has no importance given the fact that's it's a friendly game,, but momentum is supposed to be built given that it's a new head coach ,,but I believe the coach has all the time at his disposal to bring the team back to winning ways before the fans begins to grow frustration,,  we need to build momentum against our upcoming qualifying matches be it afcon or next world cup,,  the super eagles just needs consistency ,, so we can build a team to compete with the likes of Senegal in Africa and other European and South American football power house,, and maybe move up ton the FIFA rankings,, all departments of the teams needs improvement.the NFF needs to give it's full backing to the coaching staffs physically, materially and financially in other to build a good a d strong team..

We also have to admit that the current quality of Ecuador is so extraordinary where they successfully strolled into the Qatar world cup this year. Of course, the defeat that was received by Nigeria against Ecuador was a natural thing, especially since the match was titled a friendly match. himself before they competed in the Africa cup qualifiers although currently Augustine has enough homework to fix as strong as Nigeria after failing to qualify for this year's itching at the hands of the previous coach of course the African grasshopper is the hope for them to be able to compete in 2023 later

I think that Nigeria has a great team, but that the players do not understand each other on the field, this is something that they have to correct now, to have an idea Ecuador is a country whose football has grown a lot, it is very similar to Colombian football In fact, they had a great Colombian coach who helped them a lot to qualify for the World Cup and this has been going on for years, the Ecuadorians used to be a team that hardly went to the World Cups, now they have had the good fortune to go to the last of the The South American classification was a bit complicated for them, but finally the results were given to them, now they have some problems because of a player who may put going to the World Cup in check.

Yes, I would agree with you that the lack of communication and connection within the Super Eagles camp is an issue that needs attention. These players need to be camped earlier than the expected date, giving time to get to know themselves to create that connection and also we need to have a stable squad not changing the squad every year and starting all over again, let it be that we are having few additions from time to time not changing the team every year. This will even help the coach to know and understand his players better.

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June 20, 2022, 08:09:16 AM
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The super eagles loose again to Ecuador with a 1-0 score line,, the game has no importance given the fact that's it's a friendly game,, but momentum is supposed to be built given that it's a new head coach ,,but I believe the coach has all the time at his disposal to bring the team back to winning ways before the fans begins to grow frustration,,  we need to build momentum against our upcoming qualifying matches be it afcon or next world cup,,  the super eagles just needs consistency ,, so we can build a team to compete with the likes of Senegal in Africa and other European and South American football power house,, and maybe move up ton the FIFA rankings,, all departments of the teams needs improvement.the NFF needs to give it's full backing to the coaching staffs physically, materially and financially in other to build a good a d strong team..

We also have to admit that the current quality of Ecuador is so extraordinary where they successfully strolled into the Qatar world cup this year. Of course, the defeat that was received by Nigeria against Ecuador was a natural thing, especially since the match was titled a friendly match. himself before they competed in the Africa cup qualifiers although currently Augustine has enough homework to fix as strong as Nigeria after failing to qualify for this year's itching at the hands of the previous coach of course the African grasshopper is the hope for them to be able to compete in 2023 later

I think that Nigeria has a great team, but that the players do not understand each other on the field, this is something that they have to correct now, to have an idea Ecuador is a country whose football has grown a lot, it is very similar to Colombian football In fact, they had a great Colombian coach who helped them a lot to qualify for the World Cup and this has been going on for years, the Ecuadorians used to be a team that hardly went to the World Cups, now they have had the good fortune to go to the last of the The South American classification was a bit complicated for them, but finally the results were given to them, now they have some problems because of a player who may put going to the World Cup in check.

Yes, I would agree with you that the lack of communication and connection within the Super Eagles camp is an issue that needs attention. These players need to be camped earlier than the expected date, giving time to get to know themselves to create that connection and also we need to have a stable squad not changing the squad every year and starting all over again, let it be that we are having few additions from time to time not changing the team every year. This will even help the coach to know and understand his players better.

I believe that I have already said it that the new coach will take some time, and we should not expect much from him immediately as preparing an international team is always a difficult job. Lastly I feel that he’ll be doing his homework on the above mentioned issues, and we’ll have to give him few more games to prove himself because I feel that it’s unfair to judge him so soon in his tenure.
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June 20, 2022, 10:02:11 AM
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Nigeria's hammering of Sao Tome is a positive one but not a kind of victory that should be celebrated for a long time... ofcos it is the biggest win in Nigeria's history in a competitive game but considering the FIFA rankings of Sao Tome compared to that of the super eagles of Nigeria Sao Tome are a weaker team compared to the super eagles..it's a positive start for the coach most especially for the three points the team got in the Afcon qualifiers and topping the group table by 10+ goals difference...but we need to get prepared and use the same approach or even or best approach to every game remaining in this Afcon qualifiers... We need to keep the team spirit high and learn from our Afcon and worldcup failure this year ...it's going to be a tough start but at the end something really beautiful is expected
Sao Tome is a small team compared to the Nigerian Super eagles team but a win is a win should be celebrated. The boys showed hunger for goal and hunger for victory breaking the long winless streak with a 10 goal to nil performance that really shows something different we have not seen in a long while because we always struggle to win even easy matches so this shows improvement and also a big win for the new coach and a positive start now they have to work on being consistent.

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June 20, 2022, 10:36:55 AM
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Nigeria isn't the strongest county in Africa continent neither are the weakest. When it comes to AFCON competition, Egypt are the strongest after winning it a record number of seven and even won it for three years straight (if I'm not mistaking). For world cup competition, Senegal has gone the farest more than any other African nation. The highest Nigeria has gone is the round of sixteen which they usually end up getting knockout by Argentina.

In the knockout qualifiers Nigeria wasn't the strongest opponent, Ghana has a number against Nigeria. In all their head to head meetings, Ghana has the highest number of win as they always found a win to win Nigeria so their win wasn't a surprised as well.

I thought Algeria was the strongest along with Egypt? I know that they were the top 2 favorites in the last Afcon tournament, even though Senegal won it, and also qualified for World Cup at the expense of Egypt, but they were only 3rd or 4th favorite.

Algeria really really disappointed a lot of people (including me) so I do remember them being top, and had some magnificent players in Europe as Riyad Mahrez comes to mind.

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June 20, 2022, 02:04:59 PM
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I think Nigeria is one of the strongest teams in Africa. They are able to play well against European and American teams. On the other hand, teams like Tunisia, Cameroon, and Morocco will not be able to put up a strong resistance against European or American teams. My guess is that all the teams in Africa except Senegal will be eliminated in the first round. Although Ghana is good enough, but I don't think they can beat Group H's Portugal, Uruguay and South Korea.
In the world of football any thing can happen, an underdog can come out victorious at the end. I wouldn't write off anyone though. Nigeria is the strongest in Africa but they failed to qualify. Anyone who is able to qualify is worthy and should represent the continent. We just have to support them and wish them well.

Nigeria was a strong team and not now,  a team that their performance is below standard can not be consider to be a strong team. Football is unpredictable and sometimes teams make little mistakes that can cause them to lose a game, but if these mistakes continues in every game I see it as the level of performance of that team. Nigeria was a good team, right now the team is struggling to come up .

With the current team players Nigeria have, you can’t say they don’t have more than enough standard to be considered as a good team. The players are there and they are doing greatly well. The only issue I think here is that they don’t have the coach to make use of this players the right way. They’ve more than enough talented players that can play well in all competitions, they just don’t have the good manager yet.

If they are talented it will be seen in their performances , and I don't think just because their is no good coach it will affect the performances of the player drastically.  The problem from the players are there, no good coach can also be a problem too , let not see reasons for not performing as only the problem for not having good coach.

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In the world of football any thing can happen, an underdog can come out victorious at the end. I wouldn't write off anyone though. Nigeria is the strongest in Africa but they failed to qualify. Anyone who is able to qualify is worthy and should represent the continent. We just have to support them and wish them well.

Nigeria isn't the strongest county in Africa continent neither are the weakest. When it comes to AFCON competition, Egypt are the strongest after winning it a record number of seven and even won it for three years straight (if I'm not mistaking). For world cup competition, Senegal has gone the farest more than any other African nation. The highest Nigeria has gone is the round of sixteen which they usually end up getting knockout by Argentina.

In the knockout qualifiers Nigeria wasn't the strongest opponent, Ghana has a number against Nigeria. In all their head to head meetings, Ghana has the highest number of win as they always found a win to win Nigeria so their win wasn't a surprised as well.
When they same Nigeria is the strongest in Africa, these rankings don't only come from performance of the male senior team but also the women team as well as the youth teams and we know the super falcons and under 21s, 19s and 17s do very well compared to the senior team so I think the highest performance and boost to the country comes from those other teams as well.

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June 20, 2022, 08:26:48 PM
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Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.

You should pick interest back in watching the Super eagle play though as we missing out of the World cup could be a good thing as it gives the coach time to build the team he wants.

Let them keep playing, and doing it well also. I know with time I can go back to watching them. I did not stop watching them because they were not winning games but because of their lack of seriousness on the field of play. I hate people not taking what they do serious.

Even though i am not nigerian but i was really disapointed from their result in the last african cup of nations

Nigeria's outing at the AFCON is enough to disappoint anyone who loves the Super Eagles of Nigeria. The team disappointed when it was time to come to the party. And after that, the Eagles messed up their qualifiers in the second leg with Ghana for the world cup in Qatar.
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June 20, 2022, 10:55:56 PM
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Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.

You should pick interest back in watching the Super eagle play though as we missing out of the World cup could be a good thing as it gives the coach time to build the team he wants.

Let them keep playing, and doing it well also. I know with time I can go back to watching them. I did not stop watching them because they were not winning games but because of their lack of seriousness on the field of play. I hate people not taking what they do serious.

Even though i am not nigerian but i was really disapointed from their result in the last african cup of nations

Nigeria's outing at the AFCON is enough to disappoint anyone who loves the Super Eagles of Nigeria. The team disappointed when it was time to come to the party. And after that, the Eagles messed up their qualifiers in the second leg with Ghana for the world cup in Qatar.
Me too i stopped being a football fan since money became the major aspect of football, profesional players became well payed that they lost their passion for football, not to mention that some mediocre player are worth million of dollars i find it really surprising how a defender like maguire is worth more than a defender like maldini the only reason i am still following football is because of gambling.
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June 21, 2022, 06:22:25 PM
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Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.

Best you don't watch it then, there were some matches I stopped watching as I don't expect much from those matches and others I enjoy watching, knowing the players won't disappoint me as the match will be interesting. You should pick interest back in watching the Super eagle play though as we missing out of the World cup could be a good thing as it gives the coach time to build the team he wants.

The world cup would had been a distraction as fans would had expected so much from an unprepared coach and probably we won't have gotten the new coach assuming the previous coach qualified us for the world cup. Maybe everything is working together for the good if the national team, lets just relax and watch.

When it comes to watching the Super Eagles games, I believe a high percentage of the fans are tired of given their time and devotion to games that turn out to bring heart break and anger to them. It always ends in premium tears watching the super eagles games. For instance in the world cup qualifiers, we all felt the team was different and things have changed and the team was back to top form but see how it turned out in the end, disappointment again. Thats the problem here. Anyways we shall see If things will be better under the new manager.

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June 21, 2022, 07:10:59 PM
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When it comes to watching the Super Eagles games, I believe a high percentage of the fans are tired of given their time and devotion to games that turn out to bring heart break and anger to them. It always ends in premium tears watching the super eagles games. For instance in the world cup qualifiers, we all felt the team was different and things have changed and the team was back to top form but see how it turned out in the end, disappointment again. Thats the problem here. Anyways we shall see If things will be better under the new manager.
Apart from the USA 94 World Cup team and the Atlanta 96 Olympic team, other Super Eagles team from then have always brought disappointment. I believed so much in the last Nations Cup because of there group stage performance but they ended up shattering my dreams and hope. But the Super Eagles is my national team and I can do nothing about it. At least the 10-0 win recently is a sign that Nigerians would keep smiling from now henceforth. Although the team have not improved so much but I am very hopeful that Nigeria would reclaim it's top form in the world football stage.

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Me too i stopped being a football fan since money became the major aspect of football, profesional players became well payed that they lost their passion for football, not to mention that some mediocre player are worth million of dollars i find it really surprising how a defender like maguire is worth more than a defender like maldini the only reason i am still following football is because of gambling.

It is normal that the salary of a star player will be higher. Because of their huge demand, every team wants to get star players in the team. However, this is not always the case. Occasionally we see high wages for less talented players. I would say it is for the team coach. He spends a lot of money to get the player of his choice in the team. And sometimes these players do not perform as well as expected.

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The Super eagle's did well when they won the African Cup of Nations some years ago, if I am not wrong it will be 2014.
They won the final when Solomon MBA gave th the winning goal, as at the John Mikel obi was still a captain of Nigeria.
They did well aside the 1996 Atalanta which they won against Brazil.

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Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.
When it comes to watching the Super Eagles games, I believe a high percentage of the fans are tired of given their time and devotion to games that turn out to bring heart break and anger to them. It always ends in premium tears watching the super eagles games.

That means am not the only one who has discovered that the Super Eagles of Nigeria no longer show a winning mentality on the pitch of play. There is nothing they want to play for again. No pride to defend Nigeria's football integrity. Nothing whatsoever. They already think themselves millionaires doing the country a favour by playing. The days of Christian Chukwu, Rasheed Yekini, Daniel Omokachi, Finidi and the rest of the Atlanta 96 squad were the glory days of Nigeria football. Big footballing countries panicked to even play the Super Eagles but that is not so any more now. It does not matter the coach they bring in, the boys continue to feel too big bringing out their legs. It is the mentality of the players and that has to change. I like how Samuel Eto is sounding the warning to members of the Cameroon team that they should sit up or leave the team. And I think Nigeria should do the same.
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Their matches do not give me any joy, instead it causes me stress and my blood pressure to rise.
When it comes to watching the Super Eagles games, I believe a high percentage of the fans are tired of given their time and devotion to games that turn out to bring heart break and anger to them. It always ends in premium tears watching the super eagles games.

That means am not the only one who has discovered that the Super Eagles of Nigeria no longer show a winning mentality on the pitch of play. There is nothing they want to play for again. No pride to defend Nigeria's football integrity. Nothing whatsoever. They already think themselves millionaires doing the country a favour by playing. The days of Christian Chukwu, Rasheed Yekini, Daniel Omokachi, Finidi and the rest of the Atlanta 96 squad were the glory days of Nigeria football. Big footballing countries panicked to even play the Super Eagles but that is not so any more now. It does not matter the coach they bring in, the boys continue to feel too big bringing out their legs. It is the mentality of the players and that has to change. I like how Samuel Eto is sounding the warning to members of the Cameroon team that they should sit up or leave the team. And I think Nigeria should do the same.
It is so bad to see professional players who are supposed to be happy and playing for their nation with pride because that should be were your loyalty lies. When you are invested to represent your nation and you feel too big and already made so much that you feel you are doing ypur nation a favour, that mentality alone is enough distraction. Back in the 1990s players were so happy and played with pride. I hope the new coach will can change this situation in the team.

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That means am not the only one who has discovered that the Super Eagles of Nigeria no longer show a winning mentality on the pitch of play. There is nothing they want to play for again. No pride to defend Nigeria's football integrity. Nothing whatsoever. They already think themselves millionaires doing the country a favour by playing. The days of Christian Chukwu, Rasheed Yekini, Daniel Omokachi, Finidi and the rest of the Atlanta 96 squad were the glory days of Nigeria football. Big footballing countries panicked to even play the Super Eagles but that is not so any more now. It does not matter the coach they bring in, the boys continue to feel too big bringing out their legs. It is the mentality of the players and that has to change. I like how Samuel Eto is sounding the warning to members of the Cameroon team that they should sit up or leave the team. And I think Nigeria should do the same.

I clearly remember the good old days. When we were excited to watch our boys play. But not anymore. Today, I don't even know why they play anymore. It's almost as if there's no patriotism or love for one's country. Maybe it's because the money has replaced patriotism. Yes, the Super Eagles used to one of the most feared teams in Africa. Little wonder why I wasn't excited when they won Sao Tome10 - 0. That game was a work over. They weren't a challenge whatsoever. I would have celebrated if it was the Black Stars they played against and scored 2 goals to nil. Who remembers the days of Obafemi Martins, Osaze Odewinge, Joseph Yobo etc

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It is so bad to see professional players who are supposed to be happy and playing for their nation with pride because that should be were your loyalty lies.

Why will you loyal lies in a country that hardly pays you for playing them time or better bonus, don't forget football are this guys job and just as you have bills to pay they also have more bills and expensive lifestyle to live just because of the fame they have. They have families depending on them as well. Why will you put in your energy and safety for a country that can't take up your bills if you have injury etc. There's money but they put priority on funding their selfish interest instead of those deserving the financing.

Also don't forget the clubs are the owners of this players and to keep there place on the team, they have to be fit. There's isn't much benefits playing for Nigeria and that's why many players are choosing their nation of birth instead of their father land. Corrupt has made football no longer entertaining as players aren't motivated to want to play for the nation. Blame the government don't blame a man looking for his daily bread.

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That means am not the only one who has discovered that the Super Eagles of Nigeria no longer show a winning mentality on the pitch of play. There is nothing they want to play for again. No pride to defend Nigeria's football integrity. Nothing whatsoever. They already think themselves millionaires doing the country a favour by playing. The days of Christian Chukwu, Rasheed Yekini, Daniel Omokachi, Finidi and the rest of the Atlanta 96 squad were the glory days of Nigeria football. Big footballing countries panicked to even play the Super Eagles but that is not so any more now. It does not matter the coach they bring in, the boys continue to feel too big bringing out their legs. It is the mentality of the players and that has to change. I like how Samuel Eto is sounding the warning to members of the Cameroon team that they should sit up or leave the team. And I think Nigeria should do the same.

I clearly remember the good old days. When we were excited to watch our boys play. But not anymore. Today, I don't even know why they play anymore. It's almost as if there's no patriotism or love for one's country. Maybe it's because the money has replaced patriotism. Yes, the Super Eagles used to one of the most feared teams in Africa. Little wonder why I wasn't excited when they won Sao Tome10 - 0. That game was a work over. They weren't a challenge whatsoever. I would have celebrated if it was the Black Stars they played against and scored 2 goals to nil. Who remembers the days of Obafemi Martins, Osaze Odewinge, Joseph Yobo etc
We are all aware about the recent change in super eagles performance, the super eagles team are not co-operative, the team is suffering mis-management. For the first time in history, the super eagles failed to qualify for the world cup, that's a big blow to Nigeria and Africa, cause they are known as one of the best team in Africa, and I don't think such performance is expected of them. Perhaps, I suggest they should give the new manager a little time to handle the team, since he took over from the former coach, the team have been performing excellently. Though we all know there game against Sao tome was a work over, but they performed so well in the game and they were so consistent with their play, for the first time in a long time the super eagles performed excellently.

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We are all aware about the recent change in super eagles performance, the super eagles team are not co-operative, the team is suffering mis-management. For the first time in history, the super eagles failed to qualify for the world cup, that's a big blow to Nigeria and Africa, cause they are known as one of the best team in Africa, and I don't think such performance is expected of them.

It isn't the first time, 2006 FIFA world cup in Germany was the first time Nigeria failed to qualify for the world cup and guess who was the coach then, just sacked coach Augustine Eguavoen. This guy has a curse of not qualifying us to the world cup but in other news it is a good thing we didn't qualify because what would be the outcome, it's still disappointment as all the other world cup we have played there's nothing to show for it.

When it comes to the AFCON as well, we're no where to be found as the last time we won it was 2013 and that's 9 year's ago. Maybe having this time off will give us enough time to regroup and come back as a better squad and this new coach is giving me the feeling he might just be the right man for the Job.

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June 23, 2022, 08:27:54 PM
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It is so bad to see professional players who are supposed to be happy and playing for their nation with pride because that should be were your loyalty lies.

Why will you loyal lies in a country that hardly pays you for playing them time or better bonus, don't forget football are this guys job and just as you have bills to pay they also have more bills and expensive lifestyle to live just because of the fame they have. They have families depending on them as well. Why will you put in your energy and safety for a country that can't take up your bills if you have injury etc. There's money but they put priority on funding their selfish interest instead of those deserving the financing.

Also don't forget the clubs are the owners of this players and to keep there place on the team, they have to be fit. There's isn't much benefits playing for Nigeria and that's why many players are choosing their nation of birth instead of their father land. Corrupt has made football no longer entertaining as players aren't motivated to want to play for the nation. Blame the government don't blame a man looking for his daily bread.
I won't entirely agree with this statement though, we see every year that the government even make promises and tip these players even before games and sometimes at every stage of the competition they get to, the government give them bonuses and still yet they perform poorly. These players are payed huge amounts to play for their country. I feel the problem is poor management and discipline. This players are not focused on the when they play for their national side.

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June 23, 2022, 08:27:59 PM
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That means am not the only one who has discovered that the Super Eagles of Nigeria no longer show a winning mentality on the pitch of play. There is nothing they want to play for again. No pride to defend Nigeria's football integrity. Nothing whatsoever. They already think themselves millionaires doing the country a favour by playing. The days of Christian Chukwu, Rasheed Yekini, Daniel Omokachi, Finidi and the rest of the Atlanta 96 squad were the glory days of Nigeria football. Big footballing countries panicked to even play the Super Eagles but that is not so any more now. It does not matter the coach they bring in, the boys continue to feel too big bringing out their legs. It is the mentality of the players and that has to change. I like how Samuel Eto is sounding the warning to members of the Cameroon team that they should sit up or leave the team. And I think Nigeria should do the same.

I clearly remember the good old days. When we were excited to watch our boys play. But not anymore. Today, I don't even know why they play anymore. It's almost as if there's no patriotism or love for one's country. Maybe it's because the money has replaced patriotism. Yes, the Super Eagles used to one of the most feared teams in Africa. Little wonder why I wasn't excited when they won Sao Tome10 - 0. That game was a work over. They weren't a challenge whatsoever. I would have celebrated if it was the Black Stars they played against and scored 2 goals to nil. Who remembers the days of Obafemi Martins, Osaze Odewinge, Joseph Yobo etc
We are all aware about the recent change in super eagles performance, the super eagles team are not co-operative, the team is suffering mis-management. For the first time in history, the super eagles failed to qualify for the world cup, that's a big blow to Nigeria and Africa, cause they are known as one of the best team in Africa, and I don't think such performance is expected of them. Perhaps, I suggest they should give the new manager a little time to handle the team, since he took over from the former coach, the team have been performing excellently. Though we all know there game against Sao tome was a work over, but they performed so well in the game and they were so consistent with their play, for the first time in a long time the super eagles performed excellently.
Obviously there have being some positive changes to this super eagles side recently, from their attitude at training grounds to game days, alot have changed. The new manager made clear what he doesn't like and doesn't want to say in hos camp and so far the players are adhering to them and are showing discipline which has been lacking before. I think the team is improving and doing better now. We just have to keep the new manager time to fix things up.

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