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November 28, 2014, 12:27:28 PM
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Not to wake the difficulty up ?

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November 28, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
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Grrr.. I really want to pull the trigger on an SP31, but it doesn't make sense to me. For $1600 I could have 2x S4, running at 4.4TH overclocked. Or even better 3x for $2400 @ 6.6TH/s. Am I missing something besides the obvious increase in hardware quality, density, and customer support of SP over bitmain?  Huh
FUCK bitmain!

if you want shitty, thrown together hardware with the cheapest, overpriced components on the planet  - Bitmains got plenty - but don't be fooled by empty promises and costly RMA procedures which i can almost guarantee you will need.

just my humble opinion based on my own experiences - others opinions may vary

Trust me, I hear you loud and clear. I'm stuck dealing with bitmain right now, for compensation and an rma for my latest S4 that came with a dead hash board. Dealing with them is horrible, like pulling teeth. I've got 4 other just about perfectly working S4s, though, and I can't really complain about them since their issues have mostly been resolved. Still a few bugs to squash and they'll be solid.

At the end of the day, ROI is still king though. I can get 8.8 TH/s for 200$ more if I go with S4s, vs 4.9 TH/s.

I really don't mean to thread shit SP, and I hope that's not how this is coming across. I'm legitimately trying to justify an SP31 and I'm hoping for someone to weigh in. It won't take much to be honest, if only to treat myself to the crème de la crème of Bitcoin hardware.

IMO the SP31 is overpriced - the SP20 however is in a sweet spot. The SP20 is now extremely competitive against bitmain S3+/C1 products, but the SP31 isnt very competitive against the S4. (granted, I expect a higher quality and denser product from the SP31 - but thats not worth the current premiums in price).

considering that the SP31 is roughly 3x SP20 in speed, but costs an additional ~$800 (which effectively includes 2 inbuilt power supplies) it seems that a price adjustment is due, perhaps down to ~$2400 (the included PSUs and rackmounting ability are worth a $300 premium i think). I know with this new price Im pulling the trigger for a single SP20 over the weekend, and looking VERY closely at the farm pack - which is almost a 10% discount by not paying shipping costs). The only thing holding me back is that hey won't easily rackmount and they are going to be louder than the antminers i have right now.

curious - can anyone compare the SP20 noise to the volume of a rockminer device fan (1.30A 120/38mm) as I found those fans to be too loud and eneded up swapping them all with fans from S1 units (1.0A fans - much lower pitch and volume). Having a "quiet" SP20 would be the deciding factor.

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November 28, 2014, 01:38:45 PM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley
it's been a while getting here, but here's the last part of my SP20 'vacation'

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November 28, 2014, 01:48:21 PM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley
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Wow!!!

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November 28, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley
it's been a while getting here, but here's the last part of my SP20 'vacation'

 Cheesy

Okay, by now I know how you convinced your wife to leave the SP20 in the apartment... calling Fleurop right now...
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November 28, 2014, 04:31:35 PM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley
it's been a while getting here, but here's the last part of my SP20 'vacation'

 Cheesy

Okay, by now I know how you convinced your wife to leave the SP20 in the apartment... calling Fleurop right now...

fan settings are at 40 and it's not a great problem. yes, i can hear it, but not over the volume of the television.
as phillipma explained in his unofficial thread... this miner will run profitable vs electric costs until diff hits ~120billion.

I should also say, i'm am astounded by the shipping time. from door-to-door in under 24 hours (19hours exactly)

i made a blog post

http://rgsneddon.thescribe.eu/#post115

in short. for me, Spondoolies have nailed it. I also run a couple of S3's but you can't really beat the efficiency of the SP20 miner. I may sell on my S3's and buy more SP20's just as phillipma is doing.

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November 28, 2014, 05:40:52 PM
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Trust me, I hear you loud and clear. I'm stuck dealing with bitmain right now, for compensation and an rma for my latest S4 that came with a dead hash board. Dealing with them is horrible, like pulling teeth. I've got 4 other just about perfectly working S4s, though, and I can't really complain about them since their issues have mostly been resolved. Still a few bugs to squash and they'll be solid.

At the end of the day, ROI is still king though. I can get 8.8 TH/s for 200$ more if I go with S4s, vs 4.9 TH/s.

I really don't mean to thread shit SP, and I hope that's not how this is coming across. I'm legitimately trying to justify an SP31 and I'm hoping for someone to weigh in. It won't take much to be honest, if only to treat myself to the crème de la crème of Bitcoin hardware.

What's an 8.8 Ths gonna do you if they are not hashing?  Go with Spondoolies you can't go wrong.
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November 28, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
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Good price and good power consumption of SP20 - imho it's better then S4 and Prisma
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service or own hosting service? I had bad experience with one of you hosting-partners, so don't want to repeat a mistake. Shipping fees and electricity price make me sad Sad


with whom have you had bad experience?

With Minersource, I had misunderstanding with them. Nothing seriously, but for me is better when one company sell miners and then offers hosting services. Or cloud mining, I don't see any problems. If you trust Spondoolies-miner developer, why don't trust Spondoolies-cloud service? Cloud-phobia?
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November 28, 2014, 07:54:36 PM
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Can you please let me know if there is a manual workaround I can apply to get my SP10 working under 0c? I'm down for almost 2 weeks now and hope there is a solution other than selling the gear.

Lurker here  Wink also from Canada thought I would chime in. You need to be a bit more reasonable with electronics outdoors methinks. Other than Panasonic Toughbooks operating at -18 outside, not much else. However I ran a 4 GPU mining rig outside last December in -25! most of the winter. But I gave it a chance. This outside on a patio exposed not even in a garage. I covered the rig with a large cardboard box and modified that (vents / fans) to give the rig a chance to warm up and operate. I would suggest you do or try the same; improve the miners immediate surrounds with such a carton or cardboard box, or even some a/c venting or tubing from the exhaust around to the intake to let it take in some warm air. A quick check of that miner's PSU operating temp. states -10 C upwards. That may be your issue. Try a shipping carton, cardboard box over the miner then monitor the running temps of that enclosure once up and running and modify that. -17 bare exposed electronics like even warming up your car sitting overnight in those types of temps will always be difficult regardless of software / firmware other updates.

Good luck!
It is a software issue in this case, most likely for self preservation as it turns off exactly when ambient intake hits 0. It is in a garage but it is not insulated. I like your suggestion of routing the exhaust to the intake, going to give this a try. I had my GPU rigs and S1's running in there last winter up to -30 no problems. Fired up one of them to test and they run rock solid i the cold, 2 bad about the energy consumption though.
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November 28, 2014, 10:05:20 PM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley


Raskul,

You make the SP20 look like a household designer item with that window setting and the flower (There can't be many miners sat next to a wedding pic either)  Grin

What PSU are you using? Pulled the trigger on a SP20, have a Corsair AX1500i on stand-by.


EDIT: @ Sponds ... When will the SP31 compensation be sent - 2 weeks now since I gave Barbara my details?

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November 28, 2014, 10:12:36 PM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley
http://www.rgspix.com/SP20_004.jpg

Raskul,

You make the SP20 look like a household designer item with that window setting and the flower (There can't be many miners sat next to a wedding pic either)  Grin

What PSU are you using? Just pulled the trigger on a SP20, have a Corsair AX1500i on stand-by.




That corsair will do just fine mate.
I'm using an EVGA 1600 80+ gold and it's got LOADS of headroom, i could probably run 2x SP20 with it underclocked.

i think it fits right in here at home. My SP10's are in a datacentre and i feel no need to send the SP20 there. Maybe in spring next year i will, this thing has totally added warmth to the entire downstairs of my flat Smiley

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November 28, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
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... @ Sponds ... When will the SP31 compensation be sent - 2 weeks now since I gave Barbara my details?
We're working through the list.

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November 28, 2014, 10:45:03 PM
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We're working through the list.
Guy

OK, thanks  Wink



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Raskul,

You make the SP20 look like a household designer item with that window setting and the flower (There can't be many miners sat next to a wedding pic either)  Grin


 If he did not have the picture there, the SP20 was probably out in the snow by now .. I'm speaking from personal experience, trust me Smiley  practically the miner is on his "other" side Grin











Did you notice? the window is partially open and ventilates the kilt!

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Raskul,

You make the SP20 look like a household designer item with that window setting and the flower (There can't be many miners sat next to a wedding pic either)  Grin


 If he did not have the picture there, the SP20 was probably out in the snow by now .. I'm speaking from personal experience, trust me Smiley  practically the miner is on his "other" side Grin
Good luck with that setup other than taking pictures :p

I moved my SP10 inside until support finally responds to my inquiries about low intake temps. I've got my fans set to 40 and it's still worse than nails on a chalkboard Sad

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Good luck with that setup other than taking pictures :p
I moved my SP10 inside until support finally responds to my inquiries about low intake temps. I've got my fans set to 40 and it's still worse than nails on a chalkboard Sad

Did you try running it with a hairdryer on the intake? .. at least until you get a decent temperature (0 deg C) in the garage .. after that it should be sustainable, unless you have space inthere for 4 cars or a ton of cracks in the walls .. Mine's running 22 °C / 73,76 °C .. found some heated environment for it.

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November 29, 2014, 08:40:42 AM
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Did you notice? the window is partially open and ventilates the kilt!


hoots mon! yer gettin a bit personal there noo are ye no!?

 Cheesy

Yeah, it's the best situ for all my miners, i call it renewable heating - cold into hot!


Good luck with that setup other than taking pictures :p

I moved my SP10 inside until support finally responds to my inquiries about low intake temps. I've got my fans set to 40 and it's still worse than nails on a chalkboard Sad




Well, it'll most likely get down below 0 celcius here in the winter so i'll report back if anything goes awry with it in the cold.
never had a problem with any other miners on that windowsill so we'll see how the SP20 fares when it gets exceedingly cold.
the town in which I live is normally the coldest part of the region, as we are on the side of the hills, with a valley which runs out towards Edinburgh. it's beautiful, but I wish it wouldn't get so cold sometimes. Edinburgh is only 10 miles away and in winter we can see a difference of up to 7 or 8degrees C between here and there.

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November 29, 2014, 09:41:26 AM
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Raskul,

You make the SP20 look like a household designer item with that window setting and the flower (There can't be many miners sat next to a wedding pic either)  Grin


 If he did not have the picture there, the SP20 was probably out in the snow by now .. I'm speaking from personal experience, trust me Smiley  practically the miner is on his "other" side Grin
Good luck with that setup other than taking pictures :p

I moved my SP10 inside until support finally responds to my inquiries about low intake temps. I've got my fans set to 40 and it's still worse than nails on a chalkboard Sad



why are you such a noob? such my post regarding SP10. I already found the low temp issue way ahead of anyone.

My solution? read my post Wink
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November 29, 2014, 10:00:56 AM
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that's the raskul household set for winter  Smiley
http://www.rgspix.com/SP20_004.jpg

Raskul,

You make the SP20 look like a household designer item with that window setting and the flower (There can't be many miners sat next to a wedding pic either)  Grin

What PSU are you using? Just pulled the trigger on a SP20, have a Corsair AX1500i on stand-by.




That corsair will do just fine mate.
I'm using an EVGA 1600 80+ gold and it's got LOADS of headroom, i could probably run 2x SP20 with it underclocked.

i think it fits right in here at home. My SP10's are in a datacentre and i feel no need to send the SP20 there. Maybe in spring next year i will, this thing has totally added warmth to the entire downstairs of my flat Smiley

1.5 SP20s, not 2 though. No 1600W PSU will 24/7 ~2150W.

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No 1600W PSU will 24/7 ~2150W.

You don't say?  Roll Eyes

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