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Author Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs  (Read 1260042 times)
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September 15, 2014, 04:19:38 PM
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SP30 August, SP20 and SP31 still missing.

CSA/cUL Certified Power Distribution Panels - Basic, Switched, Metered. 1-3 phases. Up to 600V. NMC:N4F9qvHz11BHcc4nh1LCJFsrZhA1EWgVwj
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September 15, 2014, 04:23:59 PM
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Now this is a great resource.
Great work.  Cool

Hardware vs network difficulty document has been updated to include the new hardware offering.



https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing

I like the hardware screen shot you posted earlier.

Source https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.msg8808837#msg8808837

That is a great example of hardware diversity and competition that we have with a true open market.
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September 15, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
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SP30 August, SP20 and SP31 still missing.

SP30 and SP31 is listed I am in the process of making a dedicated sheet for speculative profitability return with a 10% network difficulty increase. 😊

I try to keep an update of hardware I own. Also since the performance is the same I consider batch orders not as vital unless a significant hardware performance is noted.
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September 15, 2014, 06:36:12 PM
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For anyone interested i'm selling my 2xSP10s:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783559.0

Buy me a beer: 1mrdfyA1GhKmTPhaSkvyq5DBterQ5m7ZK

Run your own P2Pool with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and merge mining
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September 15, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
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Hardware vs network difficulty document has been updated to include the new hardware offering.


EDIT Power and speed correction on line 25.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing

Thank you for this.. you may want to update bitmain S3 is now on Batch 9 shipping on Sept 18

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September 15, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
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Hardware vs network difficulty document has been updated to include the new hardware offering.


EDIT Power and speed correction on line 25.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing

Not sure what the point of this is when all the info is incorrect/out of date. It's also missing like 90% of hardware available.
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September 15, 2014, 08:38:36 PM
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For anyone that doesn´t know:

As far as I can tell, grcooling is a form of immersion cooling, utilizing a "standard" 1-phase cooling liquid.



This is correct, we use an oil based dielectric coolant, which is much more cost effective than a two phase cooling approach. Two phase cooling fluids typically cost about $200 per gallon, while oil based liquid coolants are orders of magnitude cheaper. We can handle rack densities of over 100 KW per rack, with a cooling overhead energy use of about 3%. We can achieve this in any climate on the globe. If you can find me flat level ground, Available Power, communications and a roof, I can build you one of the most efficient, cost effective data centers on the planet.  Please see below a link to a youtube video of what our cooling units typically look like in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IX9U2zaI_I



I would be happy to answer any questions.

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.... So you're saying you're moving the fluid from rack to roof, cooling it to ambient and back to rack for less than 3KW per rack?


The path of heat flow through the systems works like this: The heat from the boards/ASICs is tranfered to the rack coolant, which is then pumped to a pump module which houses Redundant pumps, controls, and heat exchangers. The heat exchangers have an oil and a waterside. The waterside of the heat exchangers are plumbed into a warm water loop which runs to a simple evaporative cooling tower, which is the most common & cost effective means for final heat rejection.

The whole system has 3 moving parts: 1. Oil/Coolant pump 2. Water pump for Warm Water Loop. 3. Fan on Cooling tower, which may or may not be on due to current weather conditions.

3-4 KW is a typical energy cooling usage for a 100 KW system.

What is your estimated cooling infrastructure $/W for high density hardware like an SP30?

Your site says $1/w but I'm assuming that's not right because that's about twice as expensive as 2 phase immersion cooling.



$1 per watt is on the high end of our pricing model for corporate data centers (tier III / IV) that serve a much different hardware and redundancy requirement profile. Our cooling solutions tailored for miners are substantially cheaper than $1 per watt.   The pricing depends on volume. If I am building a single unit, it is going to have a per unit cost that is much more expensive than if I was building you 100 cooling units.  How many SP-30s are you considering?
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September 15, 2014, 09:48:48 PM
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To be fair, even bitmain is taking pre-orders atm, and spondoolies has never shipped anything later than advertised.

While they do have some pre-orders, the bulk of their offerings are not. Nobody beats Bitmain's offerings right now, and the S3+ ships in 3 days.

Buy & Hold
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September 15, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
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and the S3+ ships in 3 days.

Yes, but that was a preorder ... you had to wait ... and Bitmain are changing their business model ... everything is evolving .. again.


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September 15, 2014, 11:00:02 PM
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Yes, but that was a preorder ... you had to wait ... and Bitmain are changing their business model ... everything is evolving .. again.

Previous batches had some waits, but the latest batch 9 just opened up and ships in 3 days.

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September 16, 2014, 01:03:38 AM
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Yes, but that was a preorder ... you had to wait ... and Bitmain are changing their business model ... everything is evolving .. again.

Previous batches had some waits, but the latest batch 9 just opened up and ships in 3 days.

Any approximate date for shipping of SP31 October Batch?

First half of October? Second half?
28th of October?
:-)

I'd like to know so I could start arranging hosting.
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September 16, 2014, 01:49:46 PM
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Hi All,

I will be receiving 3 X SP-30s this month. I wanted to know which pool I could mine in with this machine for the best result. I'm new to mining so I need some help with this.

 
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September 16, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
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Hi All,

I will be receiving 3 X SP-30s this month. I wanted to know which pool I could mine in with this machine for the best result. I'm new to mining so I need some help with this.

 

Eliguis is good, Slush's, btcguild...

Are you hosting them by yourself? If so, did you figure out how you will evacuate 9kw equivalent of heat (30709 BTU/hr=~2.51-2.55 tons of A/C)?
It is a lot for a house, not to mention apartment, unless it is in a standalone shed.
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September 16, 2014, 02:29:40 PM
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Hi All,

I will be receiving 3 X SP-30s this month. I wanted to know which pool I could mine in with this machine for the best result. I'm new to mining so I need some help with this.

 

Eliguis is good, Slush's, btcguild...

Are you hosting them by yourself? If so, did you figure out how you will evacuate 9kw equivalent of heat (30709 BTU/hr=~2.51-2.55 tons of A/C)?
It is a lot for a house, not to mention apartment, unless it is in a standalone shed.


Yes I will be hosting them myself. I have a portable air-conditioner in my room (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Amcor-PLMB-Portable-Conditioning-conditioner/dp/B001AXJ3V8). Do you think this one is fine for me?
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September 16, 2014, 02:33:22 PM
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That AC is barely enough for ONE sp30.

When you say "in your room" I hope you do not mean that you will be staying in that room when the units are in there?

Evacuating 3kW of heat from a 2U case produces a significant amount of noise....


These sp30s are optimised for datacenter performance and not meant to be a home solution.
They can be a home solution with proper AC / airflow engineering, but hardly in a closed room.

Apart from the fact that AC equipment is expensive, running it also adds to your electricity bill, and unless you get WA state power rates, that will mean a big increase in your hosting cost.
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September 16, 2014, 02:36:52 PM
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That AC is barely enough for ONE sp30.

When you say "in your room" I hope you do not mean that you will be staying in that room when the units are in there?

Evacuating 3kW of heat from a 2U case produces a significant amount of noise....


These sp30s are optimised for datacenter performance and not meant to be a home solution.
They can be a home solution with proper AC / airflow engineering, but hardly in a closed room.

The question is... Running 2-1500W power supplies at home from the wall.  Is that even recommended?  Most appliances such as dish washer/clothes washer don't even take that much power?


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September 16, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
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The question is... Running 2-1500W power supplies at home from the wall.  Is that even recommended?  Most appliances such as dish washer/clothes washer don't even take that much power?

That adds to the problem aswell.

Standard wiring will not provide 9kW of 220V power in a normal room.
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September 16, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
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That AC is barely enough for ONE sp30.

When you say "in your room" I hope you do not mean that you will be staying in that room when the units are in there?

Evacuating 3kW of heat from a 2U case produces a significant amount of noise....


These sp30s are optimised for datacenter performance and not meant to be a home solution.
They can be a home solution with proper AC / airflow engineering, but hardly in a closed room.

Apart from the fact that AC equipment is expensive, running it also adds to your electricity bill, and unless you get WA state power rates, that will mean a big increase in your hosting cost.


In the back of my house I have a separate building which is being used as a music studio. I was planning to put the machines into a server rack and store them in that space with that air-conditioner. Are there any other ways I could keep them as a home solution? Maybe a different air-con? or server rack with cooling?
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September 16, 2014, 02:45:56 PM
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In the back of my house I have a separate building which is being used as a music studio. I was planning to put the machines into a server rack and store them in that space with that air-conditioner. Are there any other ways I could keep them as a home solution? Maybe a different air-con? or server rack with cooling?
Sure, you could get an air-con that supports around 27kBTU, which will consume around 3kW of power itself.

You could increase the airflow through the building to around 1000cfm, and if outside temperatures are not above 30°C, everything should be fine.

You could go for an evaporative cooling solution if you live in a dry climate, this can give you both enough airflow aswell as enough cooling.

Finally, you could purchase hosting with one of the many hosting providers.
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September 16, 2014, 02:47:30 PM
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That AC is barely enough for ONE sp30.

When you say "in your room" I hope you do not mean that you will be staying in that room when the units are in there?

Evacuating 3kW of heat from a 2U case produces a significant amount of noise....


These sp30s are optimised for datacenter performance and not meant to be a home solution.
They can be a home solution with proper AC / airflow engineering, but hardly in a closed room.

The question is... Running 2-1500W power supplies at home from the wall.  Is that even recommended?  Most appliances such as dish washer/clothes washer don't even take that much power?





Really? I'm from the UK so all the appliances I have support 240v. I believe the SP-30 takes 240v from the wall?
Will it be hard for me even to plug two machines to my wall? Is there any other way?
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