🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[DireWolfM14]

Jimmy G just isn’t that good. He’s a solid game manager, but there’s a reason they drafted Lance as high as they did. Yea he got them to the super bowl but it was much more so because of the team around him and not because of him. His upside is just very limited. Alex Smith is a former QB who’s a good comparable comp. The Chiefs moved on from him too because of Mahomes (look how that turned out).

I read some comments from Steve Young today where he thinks the 9ers are definitely ready to move on.  He doesn't see things transpiring like they did when he and Montana were the two QBs vying for playing time.

& no, Zach Wilson is absolutely NOT a good bet for MVP. If whomever said that was being serious, wow lol. (Likely they were not).

I'm sure that was a joke based on his prowess with older women, (or one specific older woman.)

This aged well

Lol!  One man's cougar is another man's "robbing the cradle."  Getting old sux. 

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[bbc.reporter]

@ChiBitCTy. I cannot find the video anymore, however, I had the impression that the handicapper who said it was very serious. He mentioned it was because the odds on Zach Wilson was 150 and it would be 3.00 by the middle of this season. He also mentioned that it was because the Jets have good additions for their offensive line to support their quarterback. I have not looked at the Jets' trades to confirm if this is true but it appears those rumors of Zach sleeping with his mother's friend is true hehehehhe.

[ChiBitCTy]

Jimmy G just isn’t that good. He’s a solid game manager, but there’s a reason they drafted Lance as high as they did. Yea he got them to the super bowl but it was much more so because of the team around him and not because of him. His upside is just very limited. Alex Smith is a former QB who’s a good comparable comp. The Chiefs moved on from him too because of Mahomes (look how that turned out).

I read some comments from Steve Young today where he thinks the 9ers are definitely ready to move on.  He doesn't see things transpiring like they did when he and Montana were the two QBs vying for playing time.

& no, Zach Wilson is absolutely NOT a good bet for MVP. If whomever said that was being serious, wow lol. (Likely they were not).

I'm sure that was a joke based on his prowess with older women, (or one specific older woman.)

This aged well

Lol!  One man's cougar is another man's "robbing the cradle."  Getting old sux. 

“Getting old sucks” you’re telling me man. What I would do to go back to my college days.  & yeah I’m pretty confident the Niners are ready to deploy their new toy in Lance and move away from the journeyman.

@ChiBitCTy. I cannot find the video anymore, however, I had the impression that the handicapper who said it was very serious. He mentioned it was because the odds on Zach Wilson was 150 and it would be 3.00 by the middle of this season. He also mentioned that it was because the Jets have good additions for their offensive line to support their quarterback. I have not looked at the Jets' trades to confirm if this is true but it appears those rumors of Zach sleeping with his mother's friend is true hehehehhe.

If the guy really thinks the Jets are going to be good and that Wilson has a legit shot at MVP he needs to pick a new career if he makes football predictions for a living lol. My guess is he likely just thinks for a major outside shot that could be a decent $1 bet to make you $10,000 (or something like that for example) then he’s a good grand slam risk for very little that could really pay off. He wasn’t particularly good last year , so not sure where his confidence is coming from nor has the offensive team gotten significantly better.

[wheelz1200]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say

And there it is Jimmy is on the block, San Fran fully going with trey Lance this year.  Trying to think best landing spots for Jimmy.  Honestly the Seahawks could use Jimmy for a year and what better way to stick it to your rival than to go to Seattle.  Problem is I don't think San Fran will sign off on that.  What teams ya'll think would be Jimmy's best landing spot?

[ChiBitCTy]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say

And there it is Jimmy is on the block, San Fran fully going with trey Lance this year.  Trying to think best landing spots for Jimmy.  Honestly the Seahawks could use Jimmy for a year and what better way to stick it to your rival than to go to Seattle.  Problem is I don't think San Fran will sign off on that.  What teams ya'll think would be Jimmy's best landing spot?

Yeah this really just seemed inevitable. Seattle is definitely imo the best place he could end up and the team who needs his services the most, but as you point out the Niners are not going to be keen to sending their division rival someone who could help them compete against them.  Had Washington not gotten Wentz that would have been a good landing spot. The Falcons definitely need a QB. Would you want him in NY?

[DireWolfM14]

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It's been obvious since February!  Leave it to the 9ers PR team to pick the slowest football-news day of the year to remind us of what we've known for months, lol.  As if they haven't been seeking a trade since before he opted for surgery.  Everybody knows that Shanahan is ready to move on.  And lets not forget that Kyle runs the joint.

I want to be clear; I love that Shanahan is our coach because he's a great strategist and he's very smart in football terms and in general.  But the best thing he's been able to do is get Jed York to STFU!  Finally we have a coach that the owner trusts to run things, because the owner is a dumbass.

However, for all the criticism I've laid at the feet of Garoppolo, I lay twice as much at Kyle's.  He's the one that choked in the fourth quarter of that fucking SB loss, even though the film makes it looked like Jimmy G did.  Look past what Garoppolo did, and look at the plays that were called.  The one criticism I have for Shanahan is that when the game is on the line; grow a pair.  

Or make sure to "borrow" them from your wife's purse on Super Bowl Sunday.  I've been married, I know how shit works.

[bbc.reporter]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say

And there it is Jimmy is on the block, San Fran fully going with trey Lance this year.  Trying to think best landing spots for Jimmy.  Honestly the Seahawks could use Jimmy for a year and what better way to stick it to your rival than to go to Seattle.  Problem is I don't think San Fran will sign off on that.  What teams ya'll think would be Jimmy's best landing spot?

What is the team that traded for massage Watson? The Cleveland Browns? According to the last article I read, he might not be allowed to play while the lawsuit is taking place. All of those girls were also very terrorized by the bbc hehehehe. If this is a problem for the Browns, might it be good for the team to offer Jimmy G the opportunity to play 1 year?

[wheelz1200]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say

And there it is Jimmy is on the block, San Fran fully going with trey Lance this year.  Trying to think best landing spots for Jimmy.  Honestly the Seahawks could use Jimmy for a year and what better way to stick it to your rival than to go to Seattle.  Problem is I don't think San Fran will sign off on that.  What teams ya'll think would be Jimmy's best landing spot?

Yeah this really just seemed inevitable. Seattle is definitely imo the best place he could end up and the team who needs his services the most, but as you point out the Niners are not going to be keen to sending their division rival someone who could help them compete against them.  Had Washington not gotten Wentz that would have been a good landing spot. The Falcons definitely need a QB. Would you want him in NY?

Nope.  If Danny dimes doesn't do anything this year giants will probably be in the toilet bowl again and next years qb class has got a couple ringers.  I'd rather they draft then go for Alex Smith 2.0

[Hueristic]

You’ll have access to local and nationally televised games on Sundays…but only on unspecified "mobile devices" through the NFL app.

https://mashable.com/article/nfl-plus-streaming-service-explained

[suchmoon]

You’ll have access to local and nationally televised games on Sundays…but only on unspecified "mobile devices" through the NFL app.

https://mashable.com/article/nfl-plus-streaming-service-explained

Isn't that what the NFL app was already doing? For free. Now they're gonna want money for it, great

BTW "mobile device" with the current app means you have to use a mobile network (can't watch via WiFi).

[Hueristic]

You’ll have access to local and nationally televised games on Sundays…but only on unspecified "mobile devices" through the NFL app.

https://mashable.com/article/nfl-plus-streaming-service-explained

Isn't that what the NFL app was already doing? For free. Now they're gonna want money for it, great

BTW "mobile device" with the current app means you have to use a mobile network (can't watch via WiFi).

It should work on wifi, I didn't know you could watch all the nfl games on the nfl app. I thought it was only highlights and replays.

[ChiBitCTy]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say

And there it is Jimmy is on the block, San Fran fully going with trey Lance this year.  Trying to think best landing spots for Jimmy.  Honestly the Seahawks could use Jimmy for a year and what better way to stick it to your rival than to go to Seattle.  Problem is I don't think San Fran will sign off on that.  What teams ya'll think would be Jimmy's best landing spot?

Yeah this really just seemed inevitable. Seattle is definitely imo the best place he could end up and the team who needs his services the most, but as you point out the Niners are not going to be keen to sending their division rival someone who could help them compete against them.  Had Washington not gotten Wentz that would have been a good landing spot. The Falcons definitely need a QB. Would you want him in NY?

Nope.  If Danny dimes doesn't do anything this year giants will probably be in the toilet bowl again and next years qb class has got a couple ringers.  I'd rather they draft then go for Alex Smith 2.0

That’s a good point I don’t know what I was thinking even suggesting or questioning it. He offers very little upside long term and is likely to only get you maybe a win or two more than current QB , plus I guess you gotta give Danny d one more go at it just to be sure (but let’s be honest he’s a backup somewhere sooner than later).

I also have never known NFL games to be free on the NFL App.

[nutildah]

I also have never known NFL games to be free on the NFL App.

I found they usually had at least a couple free games a week, usually two on Sunday and sometimes Thursday.

Amazon Prime is going to have Thursday games this year.

But apparently Game Pass is only letting you watch the games after they are over from now on?

Hmm...

[suchmoon]

It should work on wifi, I didn't know you could watch all the nfl games on the nfl app. I thought it was only highlights and replays.

Not all games I think, just the "local" ones on Sunday but I found that using a simple location spoofing app I can pick pretty much any game.

And yeah the live games would stop playing if the phone connects to WiFi.

So this new "plus" thing might be an improvement but I'm guessing the freebie will be no longer available. If it does work over WiFi, it might be worth it so that I don't need to have an unlimited plan, but it would have to be less than $10 per month.

[Hueristic]

I also have never known NFL games to be free on the NFL App.

I found they usually had at least a couple free games a week, usually two on Sunday and sometimes Thursday.

Amazon Prime is going to have Thursday games this year.

But apparently Game Pass is only letting you watch the games after they are over from now on?

Hmm...

It should work on wifi, I didn't know you could watch all the nfl games on the nfl app. I thought it was only highlights and replays.

Not all games I think, just the "local" ones on Sunday but I found that using a simple location spoofing app I can pick pretty much any game.

And yeah the live games would stop playing if the phone connects to WiFi.

So this new "plus" thing might be an improvement but I'm guessing the freebie will be no longer available. If it does work over WiFi, it might be worth it so that I don't need to have an unlimited plan, but it would have to be less than $10 per month.

Guess I'll stick with pirating all the games.

https://home.nflbite.com/#

[DireWolfM14]

But apparently Game Pass is only letting you watch the games after they are over from now on?

Hmm...

I signed up for Game Pass once upon a time, and that's how it worked in those days.  They didn't want to compete with local broadcasts so they would have a live broadcast of at least one game out-side the local market, then let you watch all the games a couple of hours after they ended.  One thing I really liked about it was the "Game Film" version, which cut the broadcast down to around 50 minutes.  To accomplish that they cut everything out except for two seconds before each snap to two seconds after each play was over.  I don't know if they still do that, it's been over a decade since I used the service.

It should work on wifi, I didn't know you could watch all the nfl games on the nfl app. I thought it was only highlights and replays.

Not all games I think, just the "local" ones on Sunday but I found that using a simple location spoofing app I can pick pretty much any game.

And yeah the live games would stop playing if the phone connects to WiFi.

Are you able to connect a laptop to your mobile hotspot and cast to a tv?

Guess I'll stick with pirating all the games.

https://home.nflbite.com/#

Those pirating sites freak me out.  Not to mention that they make my script blocker go crazy, and to watch the videos you have to disable it.  I'm not willing to do that. 

At least I know what evil YouTubeTV is up to with my personal data. 

[Hueristic]

Guess I'll stick with pirating all the games.

https://home.nflbite.com/#

Those pirating sites freak me out.  Not to mention that they make my script blocker go crazy, and to watch the videos you have to disable it.  I'm not willing to do that. 

At least I know what evil YouTubeTV is up to with my personal data. 

True, I forget not everyone has the skillz.

[DireWolfM14]

True, I forget not everyone has the skillz.

Oh, so now you're going to get nasty?!?!  I see how you are!   

Meh, it's not about the skills (or lack there of.)  I know I could set up specific hardware, a VM, or a container specifically for the purpose if I really cared that much.  Or deal with streaming over tor...  Realistically, I get a lot of use out that evil service; sports of all kinds, not just football.  It's not cheap by any stretch, but it's a only a little more than half of what a typical cable package would cost if it included the same level of sports programs.  And it's nice to be able to reliably watch the Niners whenever I want, not just live if I choose.  The cost of convenience, I guess.

[suchmoon]

Are you able to connect a laptop to your mobile hotspot and cast to a tv?

Nope, I wasn't able to make it cast to a PC or to a TV directly, and google said that I'm not alone so I'm guessing NFL is blocking that.

Come to think of it, given the billions they're extorting from TV networks I'm surprised they are able to show any games outside of a $200 cable package.

[wheelz1200]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say

And there it is Jimmy is on the block, San Fran fully going with trey Lance this year.  Trying to think best landing spots for Jimmy.  Honestly the Seahawks could use Jimmy for a year and what better way to stick it to your rival than to go to Seattle.  Problem is I don't think San Fran will sign off on that.  What teams ya'll think would be Jimmy's best landing spot?

Yeah this really just seemed inevitable. Seattle is definitely imo the best place he could end up and the team who needs his services the most, but as you point out the Niners are not going to be keen to sending their division rival someone who could help them compete against them.  Had Washington not gotten Wentz that would have been a good landing spot. The Falcons definitely need a QB. Would you want him in NY?

Nope.  If Danny dimes doesn't do anything this year giants will probably be in the toilet bowl again and next years qb class has got a couple ringers.  I'd rather they draft then go for Alex Smith 2.0

That’s a good point I don’t know what I was thinking even suggesting or questioning it. He offers very little upside long term and is likely to only get you maybe a win or two more than current QB , plus I guess you gotta give Danny d one more go at it just to be sure (but let’s be honest he’s a backup somewhere sooner than later).

I also have never known NFL games to be free on the NFL App.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all.  It's honestly a perfect situation in that if he sucks they get a high draft pick in a loaded qb class needing a qb.  If he shows he is the starter for the next 3-5 years then great that was the goal anyway.  Either this is another season as a giant fan where ima just enjoy my fantasy team 😂