US Presidential Election 2020

[Zuilhsa]

The first debate for the 2020 US presidency. It will take place in Cleveland, Ohio on September 29.
Trump and Biden will have 3 debates before the vote on November 3.

2) Miami on October 15.
3) Nashville on October 22.

Remember that Biden has a national advantage of 15 percentage points.

Trump has lost his popularity due to the way he has handled the fight against Covid19 in the US and to the case of the brutal murder of George Floyd and the USA community said that stopping racism "Black lives matter."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53562432

Even befor this incidents Trump's popularity has declined a lot. As a businessman he takes each and everything as a business, and the same isn't good for a president. Same as the native citizens USA has got large number of migrant who have got citizenship. The action taken against Visa for those people will also make a difference in the Presidential Election 2020.

[jademaxsuy]

Even befor this incidents Trump's popularity has declined a lot. As a businessman he takes each and everything as a business, and the same isn't good for a president. Same as the native citizens USA has got large number of migrant who have got citizenship. The action taken against Visa for those people will also make a difference in the Presidential Election 2020.

But I do not believe that Trump is the underdog here. His popularity may decline but thr supporters he has now could still suffice to support him. This election is not an easy win for both parties. So now it really depend on their platform how thet can solve problems especially with pandemic. In Trump's case since he handled it already then it may be advantage on his part knowing things that might be or not effective to fight the covid where trump has the advantage while Biden still consider as starter. But, if Biden could convince his way of battling the virus then pretty sure it will be a way for Biden to win the election.

[Savemore]

Even befor this incidents Trump's popularity has declined a lot. As a businessman he takes each and everything as a business, and the same isn't good for a president. Same as the native citizens USA has got large number of migrant who have got citizenship. The action taken against Visa for those people will also make a difference in the Presidential Election 2020.

But I do not believe that Trump is the underdog here. His popularity may decline but thr supporters he has now could still suffice to support him. This election is not an easy win for both parties. So now it really depend on their platform how thet can solve problems especially with pandemic. In Trump's case since he handled it already then it may be advantage on his part knowing things that might be or not effective to fight the covid where trump has the advantage while Biden still consider as starter. But, if Biden could convince his way of battling the virus then pretty sure it will be a way for Biden to win the election.

As long as there is no vaccines available, and they don't have source or way to figure out how they can control their people from going outside very now and then or being in too crowded place, It's impossible for them to assure their people that they will  be the right people to vote because of the pandemic. Trump may still win if he can address properly a platform to atleast lessen the high number of cases in US.

He will win and I have no doubt about it, the people who hates him are the people who doesn't have care to trump even though he is still not the president of the U. S. He is a good leader and it is the reason why he became a billionaire. His speech in the public is not scripted like the other president. The Trump administration made a lot of good things in the U. S and it will only became waste if he will not be re elected.

[perfect999]

If the "illegal invasion" started in 70's you do realize that they have been in USA for 50 years right? It is 2020 right now, so 2020 minus 1970 equals 50 years. If you do not think that in 50 years someone becomes American, that means you are not very welcoming person to other people and definitely should not be responsible for any type of immigration related stuff.

Sure there shouldn't be people who have been in USA for just 2 years and vote, but when they are there for 50 years (or basically born there by what you say about the "anchor baby" when you are talking about a HUMAN LIFE) they do earn that right to vote, serving and paying taxes for 50 years or being born in USA and staying there for 18 years of your life should give you that right.

At what point would you draw the line, anyone whose family wasn't in USA before 1950's should not vote? In order to vote you have to have a family that has been in USA for min 100 years? Where do you draw the line? Believe me, 50 years is a LOOOONG time, that is enough to be able to vote.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I have a feeling that if the pandemic situation is not going to improve, then it is going to be advantageous to Trump. Because his supporters have mostly ignored the warnings, refused to wear masks and to adhere to social distancing. These people are sure to go out and vote. But the same can't be said about the Democrat supporters, and at least some of them are likely to stay at home.

[tyKiwanuka]

Source: https://orbitexch.com/customer/sport/market/1.168954647

There was a pic taken from Bidens notes for his latest press conference and it had notes about Kamala Harris:


Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-on-joe-bidens-handwritten-notes-amid-vp-rumors-2020-7?r=DE&IR=T

Harris has been my favourite all the time and I wanted to place a bet on here in the upcoming days - she was around 2.70 before this pic was taken. Now the odds have dropped already, which is super annoying^^:


Source: https://orbitexch.com/customer/sport/market/1.168954647

I somehow think this 1.7x is still good, but not too much into this topic and the other candidates to be brave enough to place a bet. Can anyone convince me to do it ?

Biden has nice handwriting for a person of his age, if it was him writing those notes actually, chapeau.


I think I will have to lock this topic soon. A lot of the posts rather belong in off-topic discussion about the US Election (I am sure there is some thread), because this thread is about betting on it and finding good value odds. Sure there must be some arguments back and forth, impact of Corona, economical crisis, riots etc., but I miss some more betting related things. For the time being I will be more strict with deleting posts and see if it gets better that way

[figmentofmyass]

Harris has been my favourite all the time and I wanted to place a bet on here in the upcoming days - she was around 2.70 before this pic was taken. Now the odds have dropped already, which is super annoying^^

i've been saying it for several weeks now, ever since the BLM protests took off. susan rice is a distant second, but kamala is the obvious choice. VP selection is all about getting out the vote in your own party. nobody else is gonna fire up black and progressive voters like her.

I somehow think this 1.7x is still good, but not too much into this topic and the other candidates to be brave enough to place a bet. Can anyone convince me to do it ?

i liked her at 2.7 but it's still good odds IMO.

trump's odds improving, now at 2.76. i have a feeling we already saw the best odds we'll get on him. he needed a stock market rally, and he got one.

[Captain Corporate]

 Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP? I mean I get that Biden and Bernie do not look to USA eye to eye and one of them has the biggest billionaire contribution in the race when he won and the other one never got a single dollar from billionaires, but isn't that the purpose of the VP? To get votes from places you normally can't? I mean if Biden picked Bernie as VP, I can guarantee you Biden will get votes from centrists all over the USA while Bernie will be getting votes from progressives and combine them two we are talking about a huuuuge chance to actually make it possible for a 70+ million voting for the first time ever.

 Obviously political networking reasons that will not happen, people who dislike each other and have so much differences do not really work well together, you want a VP who will work with you and not work against you, thats why Kamala is a smart choice, Warren is even a smarter choice, but Bernie is not, he could bring in a lot of votes but he could scare of some people and in the end even if he helps you win, he will not be helping you rule.

[figmentofmyass]

Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP?

two old white guys, that's why. it has nothing to do with policies or platforms. if you haven't noticed, identity politics are front and center in this election.

biden has already vowed to pick a woman VP, so technically that's why it's impossible. in terms of odds, it's pretty clear by now that it will be a non-white woman. i'll be very surprised if it's anyone besides kamala harris or susan rice.

[bbc.reporter]

Source: https://orbitexch.com/customer/sport/market/1.168954647

There was a pic taken from Bidens notes for his latest press conference and it had notes about Kamala Harris:


Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-on-joe-bidens-handwritten-notes-amid-vp-rumors-2020-7?r=DE&IR=T

Harris has been my favourite all the time and I wanted to place a bet on here in the upcoming days - she was around 2.70 before this pic was taken. Now the odds have dropped already, which is super annoying^^:


Source: https://orbitexch.com/customer/sport/market/1.168954647

I somehow think this 1.7x is still good, but not too much into this topic and the other candidates to be brave enough to place a bet. Can anyone convince me to do it ?

Biden has nice handwriting for a person of his age, if it was him writing those notes actually, chapeau.


I think I will have to lock this topic soon. A lot of the posts rather belong in off-topic discussion about the US Election (I am sure there is some thread), because this thread is about betting on it and finding good value odds. Sure there must be some arguments back and forth, impact of Corona, economical crisis, riots etc., but I miss some more betting related things. For the time being I will be more strict with deleting posts and see if it gets better that way

However, Biden might not have an alternative on choosing Susan Rice. His administration will need and use her to protect Biden from the Russiagate scandal hehehe.

[bryant.coleman]

Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP?

two old white guys, that's why. it has nothing to do with policies or platforms. if you haven't noticed, identity politics are front and center in this election.

biden has already vowed to pick a woman VP, so technically that's why it's impossible. in terms of odds, it's pretty clear by now that it will be a non-white woman. i'll be very surprised if it's anyone besides kamala harris or susan rice.

Not just the race, but also it's about the age. Biden is a few weeks away from 78. Bernie is almost 79. Do you really want a 78-year old presidential candidate, with a 79-year old VP pick? IMO, race is secondary concern. And age is one of the advantages Kamala Harris is having, as she's just 55 years old. But from what I have heard, some of the top Biden allies and donors are not happy with her, and want to prevent her being named as the VP candidate at any cost. It looks to me that Biden can't ignore their stand. In the end, he may come up with another compromise candidate. May be African American and female, but not Kamala Harris.

[uneng]

Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP?

two old white guys, that's why. it has nothing to do with policies or platforms. if you haven't noticed, identity politics are front and center in this election.

biden has already vowed to pick a woman VP, so technically that's why it's impossible. in terms of odds, it's pretty clear by now that it will be a non-white woman. i'll be very surprised if it's anyone besides kamala harris or susan rice.

This kind of mindset from democrats just reinforces Trump's reelection: instead of focusing in a platform that prioritizes jobs, democrats are too busy choosing their candidates based on their races. Come on... Really that they still didn't realize why they keep losing and can't get real people's support?
So many protests against racism and they are the ones who choose candidates according to the skin color.

[hulla]

Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP?

two old white guys, that's why. it has nothing to do with policies or platforms. if you haven't noticed, identity politics are front and center in this election.

biden has already vowed to pick a woman VP, so technically that's why it's impossible. in terms of odds, it's pretty clear by now that it will be a non-white woman. i'll be very surprised if it's anyone besides kamala harris or susan rice.

This kind of mindset from democrats just reinforces Trump's reelection: instead of focusing in a platform that prioritizes jobs, democrats are too busy choosing their candidates based on their races. Come on... Really that they still didn't realize why they keep losing and can't get real people's support?
So many protests against racism and they are the ones who choose candidates according to the skin color.

It actually a vice-versa kind of situation cause the mindset could reinforce Trump reelection and may not only if Biden make the choice by picking a non white woman (Black) as VP due to the racism protest and support around the world. However, Trumps have also done alot of mistakes which may not reinforce his reelection.
It will be better if Biden stick his vow.

[Daniel91]

Why is it so impossible that Bernie can't be VP?

two old white guys, that's why. it has nothing to do with policies or platforms. if you haven't noticed, identity politics are front and center in this election.

biden has already vowed to pick a woman VP, so technically that's why it's impossible. in terms of odds, it's pretty clear by now that it will be a non-white woman. i'll be very surprised if it's anyone besides kamala harris or susan rice.

Not just the race, but also it's about the age. Biden is a few weeks away from 78. Bernie is almost 79. Do you really want a 78-year old presidential candidate, with a 79-year old VP pick? IMO, race is secondary concern. And age is one of the advantages Kamala Harris is having, as she's just 55 years old. But from what I have heard, some of the top Biden allies and donors are not happy with her, and want to prevent her being named as the VP candidate at any cost. It looks to me that Biden can't ignore their stand. In the end, he may come up with another compromise candidate. May be African American and female, but not Kamala Harris.

I heard that other candidates for VP are: - Keisha Lance Bottoms, mayor of Atlanta,
- Keisha Lance Bottoms, voting rights activist
- Susan Rice, Ambassador to the United Nations, and National Security Adviser etc.

Personally, it seems to me that Susan Rice is the most qualified candidate for the position of VP and I hope that Biden will choose her.
When the whole world is in confusion and chaos due to the corona crisis, America-China relations and many other reasons, Biden needs someone experienced in foreign policy.

 

[pokeronlinestatus]

I think the debates will not really be that good for Biden at all, Biden is aging and we all know it and sometimes he gets lost in his own thoughts as well, dude has his moments and usually is fine but if he gets side-tracked it is hard to bring him back and reel him in, he just starts talking about education and you can find him ending with talking about fishing somehow and you don't know how it got there (or maybe it is intentional and smart? I doubt it).

Whereas Trump is very much fine with lying trough his teeth, he will say earth is flat and there are lizard people who control the earth if it gets him a vote, he doesn't care about facts or anything, so it is not a fair fight, it is a person who doesn't lie to public face that easily versus Trump who would say he is a black woman without blinking an eye if it gets him a vote and scary thing is a lot of republicans will say "well he does look darker and we don't know his gender so it is possible why are you making a fuss about it" when asked about it.

Democracy is democracy when both candidates are in a fair situation and right now they are not.

[Darkoth89]

Trump seems to be more and more worried now that postal voting will become a big thing in November. He is now even suggesting to delay the elections: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975

Can anyone tell me if a presidential election ever got delayed in the US? I doubt that the Congress would approve his idea.

And when he calls a voting by mail "the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history" I really think there's a chance he might not acknowledge the result of the election in November if it's not in his favour.

[Captain Corporate]

 Its funny how the Trump campaign is basically trying to do the same thing they did before and try to get out some criminal charges so that they could put that in the headlines all the time. Last time it was "crooked hillary" who have appeared in front of the senate and congress and basically has been questioned tirelessly by the republicans yet couldn't find 1 single shred of evidence to give her any type of criminal indicment. Yet Trump has been impeached by the congress, people around him have been put the jail, one of them got a pardon from president himself after being charged, and many more in jail yet for some reason he checked Ukraine for any dirt he could find on Biden and now looking at other places, thats literally his playbook, try to find any dirt on the opponent and use that constantly.

[tyz]

Found an interesting article today about the current number of new voter registrations compared to 2016. The number has plunged, probably due to the lockdown and pandemia.


Source: https://thecivicscenter.org/blog/2020/7/28/new-voter-registrations-have-plummeted-due-to-covid-19

[johhnyUA]

Found an interesting article today about the current number of new voter registrations compared to 2016. The number has plunged, probably due to the lockdown and pandemia.

In that case, if it will still the same, Trump will win for sure. A little clarification: older generation is more responsibly to such ceremonial (in terms of the state) things as election of president compared to zoomers. As we see, zoomers are mostly riot against Trump, police and so on. They think that they don't need such things as election, they will just reject Trump and results of election and everything will be fine. Childish logic.

Sooooo. Only old people registering for election, and with a great probability most of them will be for Trump.

[bryant.coleman]

In that case, if it will still the same, Trump will win for sure. A little clarification: older generation is more responsibly to such ceremonial (in terms of the state) things as election of president compared to zoomers. As we see, zoomers are mostly riot against Trump, police and so on. They think that they don't need such things as election, they will just reject Trump and results of election and everything will be fine. Childish logic.

Sooooo. Only old people registering for election, and with a great probability most of them will be for Trump.

Do I need to remind you about the 2018 United States Senate elections? The GOP lost a large number of states, because the suburban voters deserted them. And a large number of these voters were either middle-aged, or elderly. On top of that, the COVID 19 pandemic has disproportionately affected voters from these groups. I guess that will make them even more anti-GOP. But I would say one thing. Not everyone among the elderly are pro-GOP and not all of those youth are pro-Democrat.