French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1)

[crunck]

I think messi and mbappe performing well in the world cup will have a positive impact on psg team, if they want the champions league trophy having messi and mbappe along with neymar in top shape will have a huge impact the next game against bayern is a crucial one if they get past them i think there is a high chance of them being champions this season.

Messi and Kylian Mbappe have been performing well since the start of this World Cup. The competition between the two is intense to be the best player. Even if Lionel Messi is not the best player in this World Cup, Kylian Mbappe will never reach Lionel Messi's record.

Comparing Messi and Mbappe is silly. Two excellent players. And since the beginning of this World Cup they have been playing brilliantly. Mbappe doesn't compare to Messi. But don't forget that Messi has yet to win the World Cup. And Mbappe won a World Cup. And so I would say there should be no comparison between these two players.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.

In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.

Comparing Messi with Mbappé is not a fair comparison in my opinion. Both of them have very different play styles. Both of them are also very different in terms of their age.

Lionel Messi has achieved almost everything in his career except for the World Cup.

On the other hand, Mbappe has achieved the World Cup, but not many other things yet.

Mbappe still has a lot to achieve. But if Lionel Messi just ends his career right now, it is not going to make much of a difference for him. We can say that Messi is very interested in the World Cup. He is not that much interested in club performance anymore. But that is not the case with Mbappe.

[kotwica666]

I think messi and mbappe performing well in the world cup will have a positive impact on psg team, if they want the champions league trophy having messi and mbappe along with neymar in top shape will have a huge impact the next game against bayern is a crucial one if they get past them i think there is a high chance of them being champions this season.

Messi and Kylian Mbappe have been performing well since the start of this World Cup. The competition between the two is intense to be the best player. Even if Lionel Messi is not the best player in this World Cup, Kylian Mbappe will never reach Lionel Messi's record.

Comparing Messi and Mbappe is silly. Two excellent players. And since the beginning of this World Cup they have been playing brilliantly. Mbappe doesn't compare to Messi. But don't forget that Messi has yet to win the World Cup. And Mbappe won a World Cup. And so I would say there should be no comparison between these two players.

We have seen Mbappe in great form in this World Cup. Hopefully Mbappe will continue his performance after the World Cup, and play a special role in the progress of PSG.

[CLS63]

It would be good for PSG to have all the players in their great trio to come back to the team without suffering an injury. Neymar is already back at the team and they are hoping to see the same for Messi - Mbappe duo after the World Cup finale. Because this match will be a really tough one and the defenses might be rougher than ever. Messi and Mbappe both are key players for their national teams in the end.

Neymar has been a more injury-prone player than these two so PSG must be still comfortable about this. Neymar even suffered an injury during the World Cup but they must be grateful that it wasn't a serious one. They need all these three stars against Bayern Munich to increase their chance of advancing to the quarter finals.

[fullhdpixel]

Comparing Messi with Mbappé is not a fair comparison in my opinion. Both of them have very different play styles. Both of them are also very different in terms of their age.

Lionel Messi has achieved almost everything in his career except for the World Cup.

On the other hand, Mbappe has achieved the World Cup, but not many other things yet.

Mbappe still has a lot to achieve. But if Lionel Messi just ends his career right now, it is not going to make much of a difference for him. We can say that Messi is very interested in the World Cup. He is not that much interested in club performance anymore. But that is not the case with Mbappe.

I agreed about this all here because completely different environment with different style of play and Messi is surely already achieve too many things in his career with Mbappé is living only with world cup, but he needs to do much more for having name like Messi with most chances tomorrow we will have Messi will take another achievement with world cup win.

If Mbappé wants to achieve rank like Messi and Ronaldo then surely he needs to change his attitude and things in play as well which is never been helpful for him most of the time he plays like selfish player which is not acceptable for legendary players, but a long career is waiting for him in coming years hopeful things will be changed, and he will be able to have best for his future which he deserves.

[sana54210]

In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.

In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.

Because of this exact reason people usually compare them at their age. So if Mbappe is 23, then they compare what Messi did until 23 and that is just unreal, dude has been a force of football for nearly 2 decades, in a year or two it will be 2 decades to be fair.

And by age 23 he already achieved more than what Mbappe did, and by 35 or so Mbappe will probably not have what Messi has neither. The type of dominance Barcelona had for a while is the key to what Messi did of course, and Mbappe doesn't have that because with all the money in the world you could not build a La Masia and players like Xavi and Iniesta and Puyol and Pique, and many others who contributed to Messis amazing career.

[Joca97]

In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.

In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.

Because of this exact reason people usually compare them at their age. So if Mbappe is 23, then they compare what Messi did until 23 and that is just unreal, dude has been a force of football for nearly 2 decades, in a year or two it will be 2 decades to be fair.

And by age 23 he already achieved more than what Mbappe did, and by 35 or so Mbappe will probably not have what Messi has neither. The type of dominance Barcelona had for a while is the key to what Messi did of course, and Mbappe doesn't have that because with all the money in the world you could not build a La Masia and players like Xavi and Iniesta and Puyol and Pique, and many others who contributed to Messis amazing career.

Mbappe is already breaking a lot of records and it is not impossible for him to take away some of the records that Messi has. He is already scoring a lot of goals for his club and country and is playing in one of the best teams in the world. If he starts scoring more per season he will be close to some of the Messi records. Mbappe won already a world cup and now is missing the champions league and ballon dor and that is just a matter of time

[bekti3]

In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.

In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.

The problem is that sometimes a lot of people compare these things as if these are equal even though this is very difficult to compare in any way I even say they can't be compared in any way.
Messi is the goat at the moment and of course there should be more appreciation for him, on the other hand Mbappe can be categorized as one of the good regenerates to keep football growing and that is a fact that cannot be changed because Messi's age is now almost approaching retirement age .

[Minecache]

Mbappe has much better potential at his relatively young age, before that Messi also had great speed and smart at Barcelona. Lionel Messi and Mbappe have their own uniqueness and advantages, that's all we can say for now because Mbappe still has a long way to grow better, but I think Messi is also a smart person even very smart. Anyway, PSG already have Messi and Mbappe and this team dominating the French league so far.

Messi has received several awards, at the age of 23 years. two from the Balon D'Or, he had gotten at a relatively young age. an achievement that is difficult to be rivaled by any player. Messi also has speed and good balance when dribbling, he has had everything besides the world cup trophy. Mbappe is a very talented young player, unfortunately Mbappe's individual titles are not as flashy as Messi's.

Mbappe only has an advantage over Messi in the form of a world title. and now, they will fight each other for the world cup trophy for their country. Mbappe is a young talent, at his age he is showing his skills. Unfortunately, he is not equipped with a good attitude. his career could fade, if he could not control his own ego.
on the other hand, Haaland is a candidate who will become his rival for various awards. these two young stars, will be one of the next golden generation.

@Doell A lot of people are saying that Mbappe is unstoppable at this age. But I think we need to remember that Lionel Messi was also an absolute demon at this age. It’s just because of the age of Lionel Messi, he is not able to do what he did when he was 19 or 20 years old.

@rahmad2nd I also agree that the only advantage of Mbappé over Lionel Messi is the World Cup. Let’s see if Lionel Messi can change that in the upcoming World Cup final on the 18th of December 2022. This one trophy is going to basically complete the career of Leonel Messi. After that, he can be called "the actual GOAT".

[fuguebtc]

Injuries can actually be a problem for PSG. I mean especially the injuries affecting their attacking line directly. PSG are a team that depend on their very strong attacking trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. Even when one of these three players is injured they are in a really big trouble. By trouble I mean the Champions League of course. Because when it comes to the Ligue 1, I don't think PSG would have big difficulties even in a situation that they play with only one of this trio. Especially if that one is Mbappe.  
PSG need to preserve their players very well until their Bayern Munich matchup. They already have the upper hand on Bayern Munich I think. Because Neuer is not able to play during the rest of the season. Mane's condition is doubtful for the first leg also. If PSG keep their crucial players healthy they might start 1-0 ahead already.

Indeed, Bayern Munich has lost its main goalkeeper, who must be sidelined for the rest of the season. But let's not forget that mentality is also important in big games like this. And I can say the mentality that the Bayern Munich squad has is better than Paris Saint Germain.
Paris Saint Germain has a luxurious squad on every front, even the players who are on the bench are no less luxurious than their main players. It's just that the Paris Saint Germain players are not as harmonious as the team they will face. This is also homework for Galtier.

Lionel Messi and Mbappé are still very active at the World Cup. And the main competition is coming. So there is still a very high chance that these two are very likely to get injured.
In addition, Neymar is already recovering from an injury that he suffered during the World Cup. Even though he did play for Brazil, I do not think that he is hundred percent fit to play.
I really hope that neither Messi nor Mbappé gets injured in the final.

Because I really do not think that Neymar is a player capable of playing the whole 90 minutes defectively for PSG. I think they are going to face a really big problem. I do not know how they will be able to actually preserve their players. But I agree with you that they might actually have the upper hand because Bayern Munich is also suffering from some injury problems. PSG will be able to take advantage of that.

[S A KHAIR]

In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.

In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.

Because of this exact reason people usually compare them at their age. So if Mbappe is 23, then they compare what Messi did until 23 and that is just unreal, dude has been a force of football for nearly 2 decades, in a year or two it will be 2 decades to be fair.
And by age 23 he already achieved more than what Mbappe did, and by 35 or so Mbappe will probably not have what Messi has neither. The type of dominance Barcelona had for a while is the key to what Messi did of course, and Mbappe doesn't have that because with all the money in the world you could not build a La Masia and players like Xavi and Iniesta and Puyol and Pique, and many others who contributed to Messis amazing career.

Mbappe is already breaking a lot of records and it is not impossible for him to take away some of the records that Messi has. He is already scoring a lot of goals for his club and country and is playing in one of the best teams in the world. If he starts scoring more per season he will be close to some of the Messi records. Mbappe won already a world cup and now is missing the champions league and ballon dor and that is just a matter of time

Breaking Messi's records may not be impossible for Mbappe. But it is very difficult. Messi probably won 4 Ballon d'Or at the age of 23. But Mbappe has yet to win a single Ballon d'Or. Messi won 7 Ballon d'Or. Can Mbappe win 7? Mbappe, on the other hand, has already won the World Cup. But Messi could not win the World Cup. If Messi can win the World Cup this year, he will be considered as the great player of all time.

[Oneandpure]

I agreed about this all here because completely different environment with different style of play and Messi is surely already achieve too many things in his career with Mbappé is living only with world cup, but he needs to do much more for having name like Messi with most chances tomorrow we will have Messi will take another achievement with world cup win.

If Mbappé wants to achieve rank like Messi and Ronaldo then surely he needs to change his attitude and things in play as well which is never been helpful for him most of the time he plays like selfish player which is not acceptable for legendary players, but a long career is waiting for him in coming years hopeful things will be changed, and he will be able to have best for his future which he deserves.

Mbappé have success with national team from Euro until World Cup tittle success get it during still 23 years old, Lionel Messi can't get tittle with his national team in young age but need waiting until achievement on 30 years old for Copa America tittle. I don't think for Lionel Messi and Mbappé have drastically level difference with Champion League trophy only missing.

Why many bad viewed with Mbappé about his attitude, during World Cup with France national team he most friendly and never made any mistake yet with their team and matches played, I sure Mbappé will reach the same level with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo later after joining potential team with Champion League opportunity tittle like Real Madrid.

[tulusikhlas]

I want to see if Lens can maintain their point difference with Paris Saint Germain or not, while waiting for Paris Saint Germain to slip and Lens will take advantage of it to be more detailed with them. But on the other hand, to be honest I am pessimistic that Lens will be able to close the distance with Paris Saint Germain and in the end the point margin between them will continue to widen. In Ligue 1 5 points is a wide gap, especially in front is Paris Saint Germain, which is very difficult to beat.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Comparing Messi with Mbappé is not a fair comparison in my opinion. Both of them have very different play styles. Both of them are also very different in terms of their age.

Lionel Messi has achieved almost everything in his career except for the World Cup.

On the other hand, Mbappe has achieved the World Cup, but not many other things yet.

Mbappe still has a lot to achieve. But if Lionel Messi just ends his career right now, it is not going to make much of a difference for him. We can say that Messi is very interested in the World Cup. He is not that much interested in club performance anymore. But that is not the case with Mbappe.

I agreed about this all here because completely different environment with different style of play and Messi is surely already achieve too many things in his career with Mbappé is living only with world cup, but he needs to do much more for having name like Messi with most chances tomorrow we will have Messi will take another achievement with world cup win.

If Mbappé wants to achieve rank like Messi and Ronaldo then surely he needs to change his attitude and things in play as well which is never been helpful for him most of the time he plays like selfish player which is not acceptable for legendary players, but a long career is waiting for him in coming years hopeful things will be changed, and he will be able to have best for his future which he deserves.

There is no doubt that Mbappe is a fantastic player. But it will take him a long time to reach the level of Messi or Ronaldo. Mbappe has already won a World Cup. Messi and Ronaldo did not win any World Cup. But still, Messi and Ronaldo are far ahead of Mbappe.

Mbappe has yet to win a Ballon d'Or. The 23-year-old Messi probably won four Ballon d'Ors. Mbappe has not yet reached Messi's level in club football.

Mbappe needs to change his style of play if he wants to be like Messi. Mbappe only plays to score. He makes very few assists. He scored 5 goals and 2 assists in the World Cup. On the other hand, 34-year-old Messi scored 5 goals and 3 assists. In this season, Messi has 7 goals and 10 assists for PSG, while Mbappe has 12 goals and just two assists. Compared to the 34-year-old Messi, Mbappe will lag behind.

[Ayers]

I agreed about this all here because completely different environment with different style of play and Messi is surely already achieve too many things in his career with Mbappé is living only with world cup, but he needs to do much more for having name like Messi with most chances tomorrow we will have Messi will take another achievement with world cup win.

If Mbappé wants to achieve rank like Messi and Ronaldo then surely he needs to change his attitude and things in play as well which is never been helpful for him most of the time he plays like selfish player which is not acceptable for legendary players, but a long career is waiting for him in coming years hopeful things will be changed, and he will be able to have best for his future which he deserves.

You made a valid point about Mbappé's attitude, which I agree with. He will have to be selfless. It’s simple for me, if you just stop your run just because a teammate did not pass you the ball, you are never able to be considered an excellent player. Honestly, the main fault lies with PSG.

They have absolutely spoilt this kid and now it will be very difficult for this player to play like a general player, because he will try to be a boss around his teammates. Doesn’t even matter if he stays at PSG or not. Wherever he plays, he will have the attitude that he built up from PSG. And that is likely to be very detrimental to his career.

[pungopete468]

Messi against Mbappe it finally became. We haven't seen Mbappe the entire game, until he uses the penalty kick and then also 1 minute later shoots the ball in nicely and hard with the 2-2. After that we still saw a great opportunity for France, it could have just ended with a 3-2 score for France. It could well be that it will be penalties, but France will not let it come to that. They have wasted less energy and are much fitter. It will depend on Messi and Mbappe who takes home the title.

[rahmad2nd]

I want to see if Lens can maintain their point difference with Paris Saint Germain or not, while waiting for Paris Saint Germain to slip and Lens will take advantage of it to be more detailed with them. But on the other hand, to be honest I am pessimistic that Lens will be able to close the distance with Paris Saint Germain and in the end the point margin between them will continue to widen. In Ligue 1 5 points is a wide gap, especially in front is Paris Saint Germain, which is very difficult to beat.

Looks like it would be very difficult to happen.  the reason is, after Ligue 1 was rolled back after a week, Lens had a game against PSG, at their own headquarters. so, to maintain the difference in points between PSG it will be very difficult for them to maintain.  because after all, PSG is too strong for Lens to beat even though they are playing at home. moreover, to maintain their ranking in second place in the Ligue 1 standings is very dubious.

I am pessimistic, Lens will continue to perform consistently after Ligue 1 is rolled out again. I'm pretty sure, Marseille will perform even better once the league resumes. since the league break because of the world cup, it's enough for them to recover their stamina and fitness after a busy match. and Marseille will take back, the ranking they left before.

[Tumanggor]

PSG currently has the world's best striker strikers, mbappe and messi contributed greatly to their respective countries by becoming top scorers during the world cup, mbappe only had to bring PSG to win the UCL, so he has managed to make a big personal record at a young age

PSG will face Strasbourg, I bet they will win easily, PSG is really not caught up by other teams in Ligue 1

[sempak]

PSG currently has the world's best striker strikers, mbappe and messi contributed greatly to their respective countries by becoming top scorers during the world cup, mbappe only had to bring PSG to win the UCL, so he has managed to make a big personal record at a young age

PSG will face Strasbourg, I bet they will win easily, PSG is really not caught up by other teams in Ligue 1

There is no doubt about the outcome of this match. But it might also be nice for PSG to resume the competition with a relatively simple victory. Many players have also made an appearance at the World Cup, I don't know how they return from that. That was also football and training every day for 3 weeks. Those players now only have a few days off and can then play football again in the new year. It is a mess with the planning in the competitions, also in France. But it cannot be otherwise due to the playing dates of the Qatar World Cup.

[indah rezqi]

Looks like it would be very difficult to happen.  the reason is, after Ligue 1 was rolled back after a week, Lens had a game against PSG, at their own headquarters. so, to maintain the difference in points between PSG it will be very difficult for them to maintain.  because after all, PSG is too strong for Lens to beat even though they are playing at home. moreover, to maintain their ranking in second place in the Ligue 1 standings is very dubious.

I am pessimistic, Lens will continue to perform consistently after Ligue 1 is rolled out again. I'm pretty sure, Marseille will perform even better once the league resumes. since the league break because of the world cup, it's enough for them to recover their stamina and fitness after a busy match. and Marseille will take back, the ranking they left before.

Messi and Mbappe will probably get a lot of vacation time after the final. The struggle of the two was very tiring after chasing each other to catch the top score and determine the fate of their country. Messi won the golden ball trophy while Mbappe was the top scorer, and France should be proud of the performance of its two players in the final.

So because of that, some PSG players will be out, and I think Lens can take advantage of that. Indeed, PSG will not be as weak as expected, that is because the quality of the players is on average above Lens.