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January 03, 2023, 09:04:47 AM
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It will also not be so easy for Marseille because the Marseille team must expect two defeats at the Lens team besides Marseille who must always win in the match. And on the one hand we also have to look at the opponents they face in the rest of the season, because that is the basis for them to continue to get up to get a better position and stay there for the long term. Because for the top of the standings I am still very sure that PSG will dominate it even though I lost to Lens yesterday.
One other thing, Lens can still lose against other teams for the rest of this season even if in the last 17 matches they have only suffered 1 defeat, 4 draws and 12 wins. So considering that this season is still long, I think Marseille and Lens and PSG will definitely be very tight in fighting for a place in the Champions League next season. But I'm sure PSG can maintain their dominance again this season despite their recent bad loss from Lens.

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January 03, 2023, 10:02:00 AM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. It was the second match after the World Cup break. Messi did not return to PSG after winning the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. After Neymar got a red card in the first match, he could not play this match. PSG were missing Messi and Neymar after conceding 3 goals. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi. All in all, PSG had to lose without Messi and Neymar.

To be honest, I only watched this fight only one round. It's clear, right, without his Trio partners, Mbapee couldn't do much in that match.in fact, the course of the game is pretty even. PSG didn't really dominate the game, that's why PSG's defense line helped press the front line. fatal, when Lens gets a counterattack. PSG's defense was too late to return to its original position. in the end, PSG conceded and had to admit defeat to the home team.

So, we can see that without Neymar and Messi, Mbappe is really struggling to score his goals. I think here Mbappe has to learn that without his colleagues he is very difficult. Furthermore, PSG can no longer lose their points because after all PSG must widen their points so they can focus more on the Champions League. fortunately, in the next match Messi was confirmed to have joined the team. and Angers are not a difficult opponent for them to overthrow, after all this match is their home game.

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January 03, 2023, 10:31:37 AM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi.
From this match it has been cleared that messi and Neymar are key player for PSG win, because in Thier absence the world cup Qatar golden boot winner kylian mbappe didn't perform like we expect from him, mbappe was helpless to score because the support which Messi and Neymar provide him didn't get. Any how it's big win for Lens to dominate a big team like PSG but  this defeat didn't effect the point table because still PSG are on top. At the end mbappe has to learn play without Messi and Neymar because Incase if were injured then it will be difficult for him.

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January 03, 2023, 10:53:36 AM
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The match was quite exciting and I like PSG's defeat in this match.
But on the other hand I see one thing now, PSG are a good team but on the other hand the absence of some of their core players clearly makes the difference and of course Mbappe cannot fend for himself in this match. Regardless it's an embarrassing defeat but I love this.
If you like the defeat suffered by PSG, that is the right for every other team fan or spectator who may place bets for other teams. But I don't think it was a very embarrassing defeat because PSG was beaten at home to Lens with several key players absent from the game. So this is not embarrassing enough for PSG and is still in a very reasonable category because PSG themselves know where the mistake lies.

Yes, this defeat can hardly be called "important" - nothing has changed in the tournament sense and PSG still have a comfortable advantage over all other clubs. But given the fact that this is a defeat from Lance, which is in second place, this is undoubtedly a blow to the pride of PSG, which already believes in its invulnerability. By the way, it is curious that Lance also has only one defeat and fewer goals conceded than PSG. It would be nice if Lance continued to play successfully and keep a semblance of intrigue for as long as possible.

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January 03, 2023, 11:23:10 AM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi.
From this match it has been cleared that messi and Neymar are key player for PSG win, because in Thier absence the world cup Qatar golden boot winner kylian mbappe didn't perform like we expect from him, mbappe was helpless to score because the support which Messi and Neymar provide him didn't get. Any how it's big win for Lens to dominate a big team like PSG but  this defeat didn't effect the point table because still PSG are on top. At the end mbappe has to learn play without Messi and Neymar because Incase if were injured then it will be difficult for him.
He alone cannot bring the team to victory and of course this is an undeniable fact.
On the other hand, this is also not an individual game, so it is only relying on and focusing on Mbappe alone for PSG. I think that is unethical because this is a team's defeat, not an individual's. But indeed the absence of several core players in the PSG squad clearly had a considerable impact even though they lost to Lens, which incidentally is a team that is strong enough for this season, but still, when compared to PSG, the difference is quite striking.

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January 03, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. It was the second match after the World Cup break. Messi did not return to PSG after winning the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. After Neymar got a red card in the first match, he could not play this match. PSG were missing Messi and Neymar after conceding 3 goals. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi. All in all, PSG had to lose without Messi and Neymar.
So, mbappe itself can do nothing in that match, right? that proves that if pag was not so strong as people said. The fact that psg is still having bunch of world class players played for the club like sergio ramos. i think that messi and neymar could not be an excuse. PSG must accept the fact that if it has been defeated bu lens. i think that since psg was losing against lens was making me feel more comfortable to pick bayern over psg.
it seems like that mbappe was an overrated players at this moment. he was getting shine due to the world cup.
Psg was relying with messi and neymar which is very hilarious.

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January 03, 2023, 12:17:31 PM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. It was the second match after the World Cup break. Messi did not return to PSG after winning the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. After Neymar got a red card in the first match, he could not play this match. PSG were missing Messi and Neymar after conceding 3 goals. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi. All in all, PSG had to lose without Messi and Neymar.
So, mbappe itself can do nothing in that match, right? that proves that if pag was not so strong as people said. The fact that psg is still having bunch of world class players played for the club like sergio ramos. i think that messi and neymar could not be an excuse. PSG must accept the fact that if it has been defeated bu lens. i think that since psg was losing against lens was making me feel more comfortable to pick bayern over psg.
it seems like that mbappe was an overrated players at this moment. he was getting shine due to the world cup.
Psg was relying with messi and neymar which is very hilarious.

They accepted it as their coach immediately after the game ended in the press conference said that we did not deserve anything better tonight as we did not give our 100% of condition and losing this game was the most natural result that you saw that happened.

Lens of course was much more motivated as this was a life and death game so they needed to win this game at all cost and they did win it.If they did not manage to win it they would be 8 or 10 points behind Paris and if that was the case with only half the season remaining then it would have been impossible for them to dream for a Ligue 1 title this year.They can still dream now because mathematics permit it to them.

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January 03, 2023, 12:40:26 PM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. It was the second match after the World Cup break. Messi did not return to PSG after winning the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. After Neymar got a red card in the first match, he could not play this match. PSG were missing Messi and Neymar after conceding 3 goals. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi. All in all, PSG had to lose without Messi and Neymar.
It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.

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January 03, 2023, 01:58:39 PM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. It was the second match after the World Cup break. Messi did not return to PSG after winning the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. After Neymar got a red card in the first match, he could not play this match. PSG were missing Messi and Neymar after conceding 3 goals. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi. All in all, PSG had to lose without Messi and Neymar.
So, mbappe itself can do nothing in that match, right? that proves that if pag was not so strong as people said. The fact that psg is still having bunch of world class players played for the club like sergio ramos. i think that messi and neymar could not be an excuse. PSG must accept the fact that if it has been defeated bu lens. i think that since psg was losing against lens was making me feel more comfortable to pick bayern over psg.
it seems like that mbappe was an overrated players at this moment. he was getting shine due to the world cup.
Psg was relying with messi and neymar which is very hilarious.

They accepted it as their coach immediately after the game ended in the press conference said that we did not deserve anything better tonight as we did not give our 100% of condition and losing this game was the most natural result that you saw that happened.

Lens of course was much more motivated as this was a life and death game so they needed to win this game at all cost and they did win it.If they did not manage to win it they would be 8 or 10 points behind Paris and if that was the case with only half the season remaining then it would have been impossible for them to dream for a Ligue 1 title this year.They can still dream now because mathematics permit it to them.

@swogerino a lot is being made of Mbappe’s failure, but he has done a lot for PSG already and the other 10 player’s also should be blamed for PSG losing this match. Furthermore in a way I’m glad that he’s being rested now, because after the World Cup loss I’m sure that he needs time to be psychologically ready and once he’s back I’m sure that he’ll score many goals and help PSG win many matches.
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January 03, 2023, 04:24:29 PM
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It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.
Evaluating the results of matches that have occurred when Neymar and Messi were not present is very important for PSG, because PSG's closest competitors such as Lens will continue to try to get closer if PSG lose another match this season. Even though PSG haven't been overtaken by Lens in the standings at this point, at least PSG can make their distance again so they can live each game more relaxed and not have too much pressure when the point gap has been made again.
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January 03, 2023, 04:39:08 PM
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It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.
Evaluating the results of matches that have occurred when Neymar and Messi were not present is very important for PSG, because PSG's closest competitors such as Lens will continue to try to get closer if PSG lose another match this season. Even though PSG haven't been overtaken by Lens in the standings at this point, at least PSG can make their distance again so they can live each game more relaxed and not have too much pressure when the point gap has been made again.
messi and neymar were just normal human. Psg must think about this caused by the club itself must also have prepared solution when neymar and messi got injured or unable to
perform with psg. Psg can do nothing without its trio. that's why psg never won ucl caused by it had a very weak team that was always relying on the some players. this must be the most important thing to be considered by psg as a constructive critism. I can imagine once neymar and messi got injured at the same time and psg will be nothing.

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January 03, 2023, 04:56:18 PM
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It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.
Evaluating the results of matches that have occurred when Neymar and Messi were not present is very important for PSG, because PSG's closest competitors such as Lens will continue to try to get closer if PSG lose another match this season. Even though PSG haven't been overtaken by Lens in the standings at this point, at least PSG can make their distance again so they can live each game more relaxed and not have too much pressure when the point gap has been made again.

Personally, I do not believe that PSG is going to lose the league title to anyone. And I think everyone knows that.

By the way, about PSG versus Lens match actually, I did not think that PSG was going to lose this match. But PSG did not play well in this match. The score is PSG 1 – 3 Lens. That was a little unexpected end score for me. But the thing is PSG is still at the top of the table and now you know, they have Lionel Messi back in the team from holidays. So, they are going to be much more aggressive and destructive in the next match.

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January 03, 2023, 05:00:18 PM
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It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.
Evaluating the results of matches that have occurred when Neymar and Messi were not present is very important for PSG, because PSG's closest competitors such as Lens will continue to try to get closer if PSG lose another match this season. Even though PSG haven't been overtaken by Lens in the standings at this point, at least PSG can make their distance again so they can live each game more relaxed and not have too much pressure when the point gap has been made again.
With this I feel there is a little hope for competition now because at the moment Lens is only 4 points behind PSG. But this other possibility will be a little different for the next match because it is impossible for PSG to continue in its current state with the condition of players starting to return to the squad including Messi and Neymar which of course this will be very good for PSG.

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January 03, 2023, 05:12:40 PM
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The absence of Neymar and Messi in the main squad makes this a bit of an interesting thing to watch for me.
PSG appear in their usual formation but Mbappe's current tandem is Soler and Ekitike.
Neymar should be out due to accumulation of cards and Messi may still not be back but they are still pretty strong with this squad, Vitinha is also off the bench in this game even though he played quite well in the previous game.

Did you see it, just like I said. Grin Paris Saint-Germain's win series will end in such a match, I said the conditions were suitable for this, and as I said exactly Paris Saint-Germain was defeated. They received their first defeat in the league. Lens showed that it was not a surprise to be in the second place. Frankowski and Maurice scored for the first time, while Openda scored the 8th goal in the league. What a player!
Paris Saint-Germain is still the leader and there are 4 points difference between them. We could think that they had luxury to lose in the league and they used it. When the main squad returns, Paris Saint-Germain will continue with the winning series again.

I saw this match, I'm actually quite emotional with my draw bet but I'm quite happy with the result they got because with this the points are getting closer because 4 points with PSG is something good especially with Lens' current condition which is in good condition for this season.
PSG's condition is still getting better but watching this match I still feel that they are not invincible.
Now there's a big chance for Lens to catch up even though it's still a little difficult.

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January 03, 2023, 05:23:56 PM
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To be honest, I only watched this fight only one round. It's clear, right, without his Trio partners, Mbapee couldn't do much in that match.in fact, the course of the game is pretty even. PSG didn't really dominate the game, that's why PSG's defense line helped press the front line. fatal, when Lens gets a counterattack. PSG's defense was too late to return to its original position. in the end, PSG conceded and had to admit defeat to the home team.

So, we can see that without Neymar and Messi, Mbappe is really struggling to score his goals. I think here Mbappe has to learn that without his colleagues he is very difficult. Furthermore, PSG can no longer lose their points because after all PSG must widen their points so they can focus more on the Champions League. fortunately, in the next match Messi was confirmed to have joined the team. and Angers are not a difficult opponent for them to overthrow, after all this match is their home game.
A defeat like that could happen at any time, even if PSG had Neymar, Mbappe and Messi in the game. It must be admitted that the loss to Lens was very painful, especially since this was PSG's first defeat in 17 league matches so far. PSG's weakness in that match was not only in forward, but to be honest they were also weak in midfield which in my opinion the combination of Verratti, Danilo and Fabian Ruiz was not very good.

They lack a midfielder who can really control the game in any situation, I don't think Danilo and Fabian Ruiz are the right players there even though they are in the starting XI so far. PSG need a good and strong midfielder, but so far they only have Verrati there. If Verratti gets injured, I think PSG are really bad at their rhythm.

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January 03, 2023, 05:31:19 PM
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PSG had to lose the match due to the absence of two attacking players. It was the second match after the World Cup break. Messi did not return to PSG after winning the World Cup 2022 in Qatar. After Neymar got a red card in the first match, he could not play this match. PSG were missing Messi and Neymar after conceding 3 goals. Mbappe and Hakimi were also seen in a very helpless state. Kylian Mbappe could not shine in this match without Neymar and Messi. All in all, PSG had to lose without Messi and Neymar.
It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.

After all, when a big team with good quality plays, then they can still at least play well. Even though they can't beat Lens, at least PSG can hold it to a draw, or at least only lose by one goal difference.
As a big team, it doesn't matter if their key players can play or not, because with the quality that PSG has, at least PSG still has to be able to play with a better effort and motivation.

Because even though Lens at this moment is a team that is ranked second, but basically Lens is not a big team with a luxurious squad. So yes, I can say that PSG's competitors in Ligue 1 are very random, because basically PSG's competitors in this league do not have above average quality like PSG.
With this defeat, of course, PSG must be able to evaluate and overcome it, because it would be dangerous if at certain moments when PSG played against a stronger team. But the conditions and situations were the same as what happened in that match, so PSG did not have the power and effort to be able to provide strong and good resistance.

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January 03, 2023, 06:42:03 PM
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If you like the defeat suffered by PSG, that is the right for every other team fan or spectator who may place bets for other teams. But I don't think it was a very embarrassing defeat because PSG was beaten at home to Lens with several key players absent from the game. So this is not embarrassing enough for PSG and is still in a very reasonable category because PSG themselves know where the mistake lies.
Yes, this defeat can hardly be called "important" - nothing has changed in the tournament sense and PSG still have a comfortable advantage over all other clubs. But given the fact that this is a defeat from Lance, which is in second place, this is undoubtedly a blow to the pride of PSG, which already believes in its invulnerability. By the way, it is curious that Lance also has only one defeat and fewer goals conceded than PSG. It would be nice if Lance continued to play successfully and keep a semblance of intrigue for as long as possible.
PSG won't even care about this at all. People are making a big deal out of this and they think that they are doing something much bigger than they used to and so fort but I have to say that this is not the best thing right now about PSG, they don't care and no other team in the league could ever fight against them.

Sure it is a bad loss, but they won't care because they can get 90%+ win rate if they really wanted to and focus, they don't care about it enough and they will probably be winners with enough points difference even when not caring about the league and focusing on UCL, so why would they feel upset or humiliated about something they don't care right now.
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January 03, 2023, 08:38:04 PM
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Yes, this defeat can hardly be called "important" - nothing has changed in the tournament sense and PSG still have a comfortable advantage over all other clubs. But given the fact that this is a defeat from Lance, which is in second place, this is undoubtedly a blow to the pride of PSG, which already believes in its invulnerability. By the way, it is curious that Lance also has only one defeat and fewer goals conceded than PSG. It would be nice if Lance continued to play successfully and keep a semblance of intrigue for as long as possible.
As the closest competitor to PSG, I think Lens really has done something like it should. Lens kept moving and seizing opportunities and that's how they proved themselves able to compete with this wealthy team. Now it's 4 points between Lens and PSG, and what's great is that Lens has changed its status to become the strongest team at the moment.

But either way, it might be difficult to expect Lens to be able to maintain its consistency. They have been strong so far, but other teams can do better too. The league still has a lot of match to go, and I think PSG are still the team most likely to be at the forefront even if they lose to Lens this time.

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January 03, 2023, 10:13:25 PM
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Marseille have started to maintain a reliable performance again. Their effort against Montpellier was just delightful honestly. Tavares is also doing pretty good since he has joined Marseille. He scored his 5th goal in 16 games in the Ligue 1. Lens are also continuing to win on one hand maybe but this effort is still important for Marseille to keep up with them.
This aggression of Marseille is going to kill me. It's the same for years, no matter which player they buy, after a while, they get mad from the pressure of the fans and the community and become aggressive. I mean, you're already 2-0 ahead, you're the most fit player in the team, why would you kick your opponent like that at an irrelevant place? What's the point of being a goalkeeper, you open there and take a penalty? They always lose from such simple mistakes. Luckily fortune smiled at them this time. Montpellier was very soulless and terrible for 80 minutes, after the red card they started playing the last 5 minutes, Marseille deserved it at the end.
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January 03, 2023, 10:54:28 PM
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It's true that the roles of Messi and Neymar in PSG's attack line are very important, especially if it's just Mbappe, everything seems impossible to win. But when talking about PSG this shouldn't be a problem for them, it's just that when PSG face Lens, we know the closest competitor in the standings, of course it will be very difficult for PSG to win. But with this result, it is hoped that Messi and Neymar can immediately strengthen PSG again and of course they must immediately evaluate the results of the match so they don't concede any more points.
Evaluating the results of matches that have occurred when Neymar and Messi were not present is very important for PSG, because PSG's closest competitors such as Lens will continue to try to get closer if PSG lose another match this season. Even though PSG haven't been overtaken by Lens in the standings at this point, at least PSG can make their distance again so they can live each game more relaxed and not have too much pressure when the point gap has been made again.
I didn't expect that PSG will simply lose to Lenz. Even when someone in this thread told me that I should be careful about the match because Lenz are in good form.
I simply argued that no matter how good Lenz is their best result would be draw.
I went ahead and bet for the game and was surprised when I lost it.
It is clear that only Mbappe cannot do it

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