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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 03, 2023, 11:23:10 AM
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From the news circulating now, it seems that Manchester United management is ready to fire Erik Ten Hag even though he has to pay a large amount of compensation. Even rumors regarding potential successors at Manchester United have also begun to circulate, including:

1. Zinedine Zidane
2. Roberto De Zerbi
3. Xabi Alonso
4. Graham Potter, and
5. Hansi Flick

Zidane, De Zerbi and Xabi are the most ideal candidates IMO considering their recent achievements Roll Eyes.
In my opinion, all the 5 candidates above are very good, Zidane is a strong candidate, Zidane has a lot of potential because to date he has not coached any club, if I see there is any issue that Antonio Conte will replace Erik ten Hag at Manchester United, Antonio Conte has a good track record in coaching the team and also proving himself as an elite manager among coaches, I think Antonio Conte deserves to coach a team like Manchester United

It's all nonsense. Can you imagine the amount we are talking about? the amount of compensation will only cause damage to the team. and even more so during the league.
Yes, and a simple dismissal now will bring about a bunch of changes that will have a bad impact both on the players themselves and on the course of events in the group. My opinion is that we need to wait for the right moment and then Zidane will be the ideal candidate for the position of coach. Zenadine Zidane has a lot of experience and knows how to put the team in order.
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November 03, 2023, 11:37:07 AM
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I just found out that Manchester United want to sign a contract with Ivan Tawney, who was suspended from his old and not very successful Brentford.
It is still possible for Mehdi Taremi or Victor Osinkhen to join the club from Napoli.
This may take place in the next transfer window. Nobody expected this. I wonder what will come of this? Who can share their thoughts about all this, I’m not afraid of this word, madhouse.
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November 03, 2023, 11:55:51 AM
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Maybe you mean that Manchester United needs to be patient in reaping the current process, but the fans don't want to see Manchester United continue to experience decline and everyone blames Erik Ten Hag for everything because Manchester United progress depend on him.
Even the Manchester United players appear to be losing patience with Ten Hag, not to mention the fans. Watching Manchester United's recent matches, it seems as though the players on the field lack the motivation to run, let alone the determination to play their best.
It does not have any effect because now it will only worsen the condition in the dressing room of Manchester United at this time.
This is clearly getting worse because after all, with their current condition, they should try to integrate. Indeed, Ten Hag is also the one who is most to blame because this is his responsibility as a coach but as long as the club still hasn't decided anything it means they also have to respect the current situation.

But questioning the condition of Manchester United is also complex because all forms of problems ultimately affect performance.  
And actually I'm starting to feel that this poor performance is also a result of how Ten Heg trains the players by prioritizing his own ego. But I don't know. But I remember last season even the news media became divided when Ten Heg had many conflicts with CR7. I remember how Ten Heg treated CR7 at that time, he didn't play much and just let CR7 sit on the bench for a very long time. So there were various protests in the media from fans and the like. Only after that did Ten Heg start to give CR7 more playing time on the field. But at that time CR7 already felt uncomfortable. And yes, when a player feels uncomfortable then their performance can really decline. Because their motivation will really decrease. I think the current Man Utd players are like CR7 last season. We know Man Utd is full of star players at the moment. And Ten Heg should be able to differentiate how he coaches a big club filled with star players. Because it will be different from coaching an ordinary club which doesn't have many star players in the club. Even when Bruno Fernandes played with the Portuguese national team, he was truly extraordinary. But when he played at Man Utd, to be honest, he often made mistakes as if his performance was not in good condition.
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November 03, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
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TBH, I am not a MU fan, but as a football lover I feel sad to see a football team that once had glory and it all just disappeared because of a mistake on the part of the coach and players.
Manchester United's decline didn't start this season, it spans all of the years since Fergie left the club in 2013, that was 10 years ago, Manchester United haven't gotten things right ever since then, they have tried so many managers and they have all failed, they have signed quite a lot of quality/world class players and they have all failed in United.

So many United fans think the problem stems from the Glazers, and even if they might be correct, the Glazers alone cannot be culpable for this fall from glory, the players, Coaches and staffs have a share in the blame. I don't feel sad for them at all, and i don't want their glory days to return.

Ralf Ragnicks words before he left Manchester United if I can remember was " It's not something about cosmetics, but an open heart surgery for Manchester United "
Players have come and go. Managers, both defensive and attacking smart have gone, now I feel like it's time to chase the glazers,it's a must they sell the club. Say something about the lack of support you get from Manchester United are YOU'LL get yourself sacked. ( Jose Mourinho can relate

What happened between last season and this season? I've always wanted to see the Qateris buying the club.

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November 03, 2023, 12:23:10 PM
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Manchester United have experienced a bad run of results under Ten Hag than Mourinho. Ten Hag has now overseen Manchester United's worst start to a season since the 1962-63 campaign and the club have lost five of their first 10 home games at Old Trafford for the first time since 1930-31. This Manchester United poor form has put mounted pressure on Ten Hag.
It's hilarious to see in the last season, they considered Ten Hag as their savior but if we are only observers, we will see they did not end that season as a runner up like with Mourinho. Ten Hag won a title that is smaller than Europa League as they got with Mourinho.
Mu is now seeing UCL spot as a huge achievement. That being said that if this time finishing at the top 4 to be qualified for the UCL spot is more than enough. The standard of the club has been decreasing a lot since MU is always having a horrible performance at this moment.
The title given by ten hag was nothing and i don't even know why MU fans were rating mourinho is far worst compared with ten hag, the only stupid guy think that ten hag does better than mourinho in united.
Shall MU recruit united back again? Mou was almost helping roma to won europa league but sevilla was destroying it.


This season only shows that Ten Hag was over valued by Manchester United and their fans. He is a good coach but if saying he is better than Mourinho, I disagree. I support him and think he needs more time, more than what Manchester United gave Ole and Mourinho. Because if they wanted to change their strategy, they must spend more time with Ten Hag than with previous coaches. Sacking him and hiring another coach will be repeat of their failures in the past.
That's it. MU fans were valuing him so high like what they were thinking about ten hag? Ten hag's achievement was so average. I think manchester united fans need to push the management in signing a coach that can have same performance like mourinho.
Mourinho was doing it so well but MU finds so difficult in getting a new capable coach.

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November 03, 2023, 12:27:37 PM
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TBH, I am not a MU fan, but as a football lover I feel sad to see a football team that once had glory and it all just disappeared because of a mistake on the part of the coach and players.
Manchester United's decline didn't start this season, it spans all of the years since Fergie left the club in 2013, that was 10 years ago, Manchester United haven't gotten things right ever since then, they have tried so many managers and they have all failed, they have signed quite a lot of quality/world class players and they have all failed in United.

So many United fans think the problem stems from the Glazers, and even if they might be correct, the Glazers alone cannot be culpable for this fall from glory, the players, Coaches and staffs have a share in the blame. I don't feel sad for them at all, and i don't want their glory days to return.
Man United management system is the most serious problem starting from the owner, the coach chosen, the players who are now becoming increasingly less confident, and the purchase has failed. Last season could be said to be quite good and finishing in the top 3 of the standings brought Man United back to the Champions League competition. However, what Erik Ten Hag doesn't realize is that this is the English League where they can't always win the competition, even weak clubs can actually show extraordinary play. The main thing is that the most prestigious Premier League competition that Erik Ten Hag forgot.

Erik Ten Hag views last season's achievements as a breath of fresh air and ignores the important things that must be prepared, such as attackers who have an instinct for scoring goals, strong defenders who can be relied on, and not constantly rotating players' positions if it doesn't make them comfortable. As a result, a series of bad luck fell right in front of Erik Ten Hag's face.

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November 03, 2023, 12:30:16 PM
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Source: https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1720412244918292762

Bad news will still surround Manchester United and this time it is Casemiro's turn to suffer another injury after the match against Newcastle a few days ago in the EFL Cup. Casemiro will be out for several weeks due to a hamstring injury and it is certain that he will also be absent from this week's match against Fulham. Not only that, it is possible that he will also be absent from the Champions League match against Copenhagen and this is an important match for Manchester United to strengthen them to qualify.

I think Manchester United's fate is hanging in the balance and without Casemiro in these two matches it is possible that their defense will be fragile again and very vulnerable to conceding goals. A very bad season for Manchester United after losing in a row but still having other problems such as injured players. It looks like Erik ten Hag won't be able to last much longer if he continues to get bad results.

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November 03, 2023, 12:36:28 PM
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Maybe you mean that Manchester United needs to be patient in reaping the current process, but the fans don't want to see Manchester United continue to experience decline and everyone blames Erik Ten Hag for everything because Manchester United progress depend on him.
Even the Manchester United players appear to be losing patience with Ten Hag, not to mention the fans. Watching Manchester United's recent matches, it seems as though the players on the field lack the motivation to run, let alone the determination to play their best.
It does not have any effect because now it will only worsen the condition in the dressing room of Manchester United at this time.
This is clearly getting worse because after all, with their current condition, they should try to integrate. Indeed, Ten Hag is also the one who is most to blame because this is his responsibility as a coach but as long as the club still hasn't decided anything it means they also have to respect the current situation.

But questioning the condition of Manchester United is also complex because all forms of problems ultimately affect performance.  
I agree that what's going on at Manchester United right now is scary. According to what I've seen, Ten Hag's teaching style doesnt seem to match up with what the players want. When I think about the fight with CR7 last season and now, I cant help but see similarities. When a great player like Cristiano Ronaldo feels like he's not being used, it makes the rest of the team nervous. Now that I look at how Bruno Fernandes's performance changes between national team games and club games, I think the problem might be deeper-seated. Ten Hag should know how to manage teams with a lot of stars, and Im not sure if he has done a good job of that. His actions are directly responsible for what happened, and I believe that action must be taken right away to help.

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November 03, 2023, 12:39:03 PM
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It's only the manager of the club that is saddled with the responsibility of providing the best tactical approach that'll help the team get good results and that's why he's been held accountable when the team is underperforming.
Erik Ten Hag have been very poor with his tactical approaches since the start of the season and it's has really affected the result of Manchester United this season. The club's performance keeps on getting worse instead of improving and if they continue with their current form, they are likely to finish the season half of the season. Erik Ten Hag must as a matter of urgency try and sort out the current issues that's making them to underperform or should be sacked.
From what I see, Erik Ten Hag seems to have run out of ways and tactics to master the game in the Premier League. So, with its current quality, wanting Man United to be truly productive is very difficult. Nothing was suitable or it was Erik Ten Hag himself who forced players who clearly could not meet his criteria as a coach. In my opinion, this season, if Manchester United manages to improve its poor performance, it still won't be able to secure a Champions League ticket next season. There are still many decent clubs this season such as Newcastle/Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City.
Ten hag has been doing so many experiments to make the club even better but the main problem was in the capability of players. manchester united didn't have good players at this moment. That means if manchester united must have used the available players.
Look at how some defenders were still having low qualities compared with the defenders of other club. The club like totenham has better defenders compared manchester united. The defenders of manchester united could not play properly in the various mechanism.
This is the main problem that must be solved by ten hag. I see that how the players are struggling once ten hag was changing the strategy like happened in the previous matches.

Manchester united is facing a problem that is very difficult to be solved. The coach shall not be blamed here but the players need to be blamed too.

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November 03, 2023, 12:39:06 PM
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TBH, I am not a MU fan, but as a football lover I feel sad to see a football team that once had glory and it all just disappeared because of a mistake on the part of the coach and players.
I wonder why you had to blame the coach and players and indirectly exenorated the Manchester United management, while the management is the architect of Manchester United failure. If a club is doing great, know that the management is firm and is playing their role and also providing the necessary support to the coach.
In the case of Manchester United, the glory left since after Alex Faguson left the club as a Father and head coach. He was however unable to get a better replacement for himself, that was when the problem of Manchester United started and till today, their problem isn't solved.
Manchester United need to realise that the status of big club is fast leaving them and their past glory has faded off. The management needs to restrategize to place the club back to glory and not being stingy and greedy.

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Source: https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1720412244918292762

Bad news will still surround Manchester United and this time it is Casemiro's turn to suffer another injury after the match against Newcastle a few days ago in the EFL Cup. Casemiro will be out for several weeks due to a hamstring injury and it is certain that he will also be absent from this week's match against Fulham. Not only that, it is possible that he will also be absent from the Champions League match against Copenhagen and this is an important match for Manchester United to strengthen them to qualify.

I think Manchester United's fate is hanging in the balance and without Casemiro in these two matches it is possible that their defense will be fragile again and very vulnerable to conceding goals. A very bad season for Manchester United after losing in a row but still having other problems such as injured players. It looks like Erik ten Hag won't be able to last much longer if he continues to get bad results.
The recent injury to a very important member of the Manchester United squad Casemiro I think will be a big blow to the club's quest to improve from their current poor performances.
Erik Ten Hag must be one of the most unlucky managers in the English Premier League at the moment because a lot of his first team players are currently out injured while others are just coming back from injury which means that they wouldn't be very effective as a result of poor match fitness. They play Fulham this weekend and a defeat in that match might end the managers reign as the club manager.

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November 03, 2023, 01:17:21 PM
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The recent injury to a very important member of the Manchester United squad Casemiro I think will be a big blow to the club's quest to improve from their current poor performances.
Erik Ten Hag must be one of the most unlucky managers in the English Premier League at the moment because a lot of his first team players are currently out injured while others are just coming back from injury which means that they wouldn't be very effective as a result of poor match fitness. They play Fulham this weekend and a defeat in that match might end the managers reign as the club manager.
Manchester United has had humiliating moments this season, as they have easily documented defeats without putting up a fight to demonstrate rivals that they are integrated physically. Erik Ten Hag has only one game left this weekend. If his team loses, he will undoubtedly be fired as Manchester United's head coach, but if he wins, he will have secured his job for another game. But, on second thought, I believe Manchester United will be able to defeat Fulham this weekend; this is no big deal for the Red Devils to accomplish such target.

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Manchester United have been playing in a 4-2-3-1 formation since the beginning of the season. The team is not able to do well in this formation and match strategy. Even then Ten Hag kept his formation unchanged like a fool. Ten hag should have done some experimenting with the team since the team is not doing well. Bringing changes in formation and match tactics. But he has kept Manchester United's match strategy and formation unchanged. Even after the team did not play well, Ten Hag did not experiment much with his team. And I will blame ten Hag for Manchester United's poor performance. Manchester United is in such a bad state because of his stupidity. And if Manchester United's form doesn't improve, United management may be looking for a new coach this season.
It makes me wonder what they were doing, the whole pre-season if he was wasting his time focusing on perfecting one formation yet there's no improvement with it this season, the thing about this coach is that he's very stubborn and feels he's doing the right thing even when he's wrong, if he doesn't change his strategy and stop his poor decision making then I think he'll end up loosing his managerial role in his second tenure at Manchester United just like some of the previous coaches before him.

 I don't know how true but there's a rumor that Manchester United have already lined up Zinedine Zidane as a possible replacement for Erik Ten Hag if he fails to improve the teams performance and he's been given 2 ultimatum to prove himself worthy of restoring the team back to playing better like the previous season.

Manchester United's performance in the pre-season matches was not good either. However, Ten Hag did not change their match strategy or formation. And so far Manchester United's performance has been poor. However, we don't see any change in Ten Hag's formation. I agree with you that Ten Hag is very stubborn, and thinks what he does is right. But because of his stubbornness, Manchester United's performance is very poor now. We are fed up with Manchester United's performance in both the Champions League and Premier League.

Zidane is a great coach now. He is very experienced. Manchester United will be very lucky if they get Zidane as their coach. But I'm not sure if Zidane would be interested in coaching Manchester United right now.

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November 03, 2023, 01:54:54 PM
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Apart from Man United's defense which is not good, in my opinion the goalkeeper is also not good, in my opinion Onana is not suitable to play in the EPL, at Inter because he is assisted by solitary Inter defenders and Serie One is still a level below the EPL. In contrast to De Gea, even though his defense line was destroyed, at least he still provided a sense of security for the team with his magical saves.

Man United experienced a lucky defeat, it could be said that Erik Teg failed to coach Man United. I still remember when I first came to Man United with the mission that a new era had begun and was rising. But now what is happening is the opposite, an era where the Red Devils have become clowns, an era where Old Trafford is no longer haunted, an era where Man United has become a mediocre team.
Maybe Onana is not suited to playing with the new defensive system because he often plays the ball in the penalty box area so he needs a defender who is really concentrated and doesn't make mistakes. In contrast to De Gea who has quick reflexes and does not play in the penalty box area when controlling the ball. These two goalkeepers have different playing styles and in fact if you look at Onana at Inter Milan he plays quite well with defender who are much stronger than Man United's defender.

Two embarrassing defeats at Old Trafford in a row and this will affect the players' mentality when facing the upcoming match. Facing Fulham in the Premier League and the follow-up match in the Champions League means it will be quite difficult for Erik Ten Hak to recover his player's mentality. If he receives defeat again, it is very likely that Erik Ten Hak's position will be threatened in the coaching chair because many people are starting to question his coaching system.

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Newcastle won Manchester United in the EFL Cup as well, but their match against Arsenal will be a different match because Arsenal will not be ready to lose the match even though they will be playing without their main striker Gabriel Jesus. They will maintain their Premier League consistency so that they cannot drop points in order to keep competing for the Premier League title. I expect Arsenal to win the match without any doubt because Newcastle United were not too good in the Premier League this season.
Manchester United won by a big margin against Newcastle. I didn't say anything about Manchester United and Newcastle match beforehand and I thought that since these two teams are almost equal performing teams in the English Premier League, it might be a tough competition between these two teams. We expected a tough contest but it was not as tough on the pitch as Manchester United suffered a humiliating 3-0 defeat against Newcastle. Regarding the match between Newcastle and Manchester United I made another comment that Manchester United is a popular club but Newcastle is currently a good performing club so Newcastle may be ahead in this match.

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November 03, 2023, 02:10:43 PM
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TBH, I am not a MU fan, but as a football lover I feel sad to see a football team that once had glory and it all just disappeared because of a mistake on the part of the coach and players.
I wonder why you had to blame the coach and players and indirectly exenorated the Manchester United management, while the management is the architect of Manchester United failure. If a club is doing great, know that the management is firm and is playing their role and also providing the necessary support to the coach.
In the case of Manchester United, the glory left since after Alex Faguson left the club as a Father and head coach. He was however unable to get a better replacement for himself, that was when the problem of Manchester United started and till today, their problem isn't solved.
Manchester United need to realise that the status of big club is fast leaving them and their past glory has faded off. The management needs to restrategize to place the club back to glory and not being stingy and greedy.
The prime era of united has gone when ferguson was announcing his retirement as a coach for manchester united. The performance from united was not able to be even closer to the performance when sir alex was still there. I saw that so many times united have changed its coach but i must be honest if chelsea was doing it far better compared with united. United has lost its era and it will be so difficult to get it back again. United will never able to find someone who capable enough in coaching the club like ferguson.
People were yelling tenhag to be another ferguson but it's all become shit right now. Ten hag delivers nothing for the club. Mourinho did 100x times better than ten hag.

MU needs someone like the special one instead of defending someone like ten hag. The special one was able making MU become runner up and won europa league trophy. Ten hag was not a world class coach.
he is still far compared with the special one. Mu needs to find someone who capable enough in handling the team. But seeing the recent announcement about MU will not sack ten hag made me feel bad.

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November 03, 2023, 02:11:04 PM
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Maybe Onana is not suited to playing with the new defensive system because he often plays the ball in the penalty box area so he needs a defender who is really concentrated and doesn't make mistakes. In contrast to De Gea who has quick reflexes and does not play in the penalty box area when controlling the ball. These two goalkeepers have different playing styles and in fact if you look at Onana at Inter Milan he plays quite well with defender who are much stronger than Man United's defender.

Two embarrassing defeats at Old Trafford in a row and this will affect the players' mentality when facing the upcoming match. Facing Fulham in the Premier League and the follow-up match in the Champions League means it will be quite difficult for Erik Ten Hak to recover his player's mentality. If he receives defeat again, it is very likely that Erik Ten Hak's position will be threatened in the coaching chair because many people are starting to question his coaching system.
Well I know Onana has made several mistakes earlier but in recent times he's trying to correct his errors and has made good saves that helped United win some matches, and I believe if he was surrounded by good players in the defense line current it would've helped him improved better, but since Bissaka, Martinez and shaw went on a long term, Manchester United's defense line has gotten very weak to the point that clubs like Burnley are finding it easy to penetrate them.

 Well it's already started causing a disruption in their dressing room and some of the players are beginning to doubt if Erik Ten Hag could help them develop well cause they claim his trainings are difficult and attracts injury, well I believe Ten Hag is a good coach and he's be given alot of time, and now is the  time to impress the fans again, he needs to quit being stubborn and change his formation, you don't come into league to change era's with such formation and display such boring performances they been having since the beginning of this season, it doesn't work like that.

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November 03, 2023, 02:11:53 PM
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Manchester United really have lost that glorious days when you'd see UTD losing 3-0 and is 78'mins on the clock before 90'mins the score line have changed in favor of Manchester United, that's when the team have that spirit of fighting back, that winning mentally but now we don't have those players and those abilities any more.
And the team don't even have a better leader since they stripped off the captain arm ban from Maguire, Roy Keane the former Manchester United player have come out to say that Bruno isn't fit to be the captain of the side.
Sometimes these past players have a hand to play in making their former team to do well and otherwise. At this point I think the team doesn't have that leader to make the other players work harder to do better even when they're losing and I think Bruno can't do that, he easily get frustrated whenever they're losing which isn't healthy for the team.
When Bruno gets frustrated it affects the other players because he's suppose to keep them in check till the end of the game. Man UTD has so many problems to tackle and they should start from the owners. And they shouldn't sack Erik ten Hag, because that's the next move they're ready to make.

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November 03, 2023, 02:12:16 PM
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What happened between last season and this season? I've always wanted to see the Qateris buying the club.
The Glazers aren't running Manchester United in the best way possible, especially in terms of infrastructure, but you can't blame just the Glazers for United's decline over the years, the players also have to take responsibility because they are the ones that perform on the pitch, are they playing this badly because of the Glazers? Or they aren't just good enough.

Having said that, at the end of the day, it is the Glazers that would take the decision to sell Manchester United, they cannot be forced to sell the club. The Glazers have refused to sell 100% of Manchester United, but there is ongoing talks to sell 25% of the club to Sir Jim Ratcliffe, we'd see how that one pans out, but definitely the Glazers are staying as majority owners of the club and the fans must live with it.
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November 03, 2023, 02:14:13 PM
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Maybe Onana is not suited to playing with the new defensive system because he often plays the ball in the penalty box area so he needs a defender who is really concentrated and doesn't make mistakes.
In short Onana isn't good because he's not a pure goalkeeper who able to saves, but a build up goalkeeper. Inter's defenders are really strong, so Onana don't need to saves many shots. It's different to Manchester United who have weak defenders.

I made another comment that Manchester United is a popular club but Newcastle is currently a good performing club so Newcastle may be ahead in this match.
What's the point to knowing if Manchester United is a popular club in the first place. Cheesy

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